The Distant Past and Present [OOC|Closed]

[Conchabira]

So I'm thinking of doing a Celtic nation in either Southern France/Northern Spain or the Balkans, also considering doing a nomadic Persian nation in central Iran but I don't know too much about that region.

[Reverend Norv]

By the way, Olthenia, that's a really cool idea you have there. I look forward to seeing how it plays out in the IC.

[Olthenia]

By the way, Olthenia, that's a really cool idea you have there. I look forward to seeing how it plays out in the IC.

The divinely-inspired matriarchy? Thanks, Norv! I'm not quite sure where to take it yet - but ideas abound.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Civilization Application

Formal Name: City-State of Eroshia

Form of Government: Tanist Monarchy

Location: (Image)

Brief History: Eroshia was founded by nomadic tribes of the interior, and the mercantile traders of the coast. Over the centuries, the two cultures have blended into a single homogeneous culture ruled by a King chosen by the nobility some time before the previous King has died. This heir, called a Tanist, must be of age when they are selected and can lose the title should they be deemed less worthy than another candidate. Candidates typically are chosen from the bloodlines of the previous ruler, though sometimes chosen from a rival branch of the royal family. While many customs from the nomadic peoples have permeated into the upper tiers of society, the coastal traders left the largest impact overall.

Craftsmen in the city are well known for their stonework and architecture. The walls of the city-state are believed to have been built by the gods themselves. The walls average about sixty feet in height with towers dotted along the wall ranging up to eighty feet. Easily the largest structures in the area. At the heart of the city, a large hill has the palace walls, thirty foot walls, easily visible from outside of the city making the walls appear even higher than they really are. Because of these high and thick walls, the city itself is fairly defensive. Archery is taught to most boys starting at the age of eight. Girls are also taught to shoot a bow, but they are not started in this area until eleven or twelve depending on the individual family.

Religiously, the city is polytheistic consisting of several tiers of gods each with their own mythos and purpose. The most prominent of these gods have Temples within the city, while others have shrines both inside and outside of the city. The people of the city seem to have combined two pantheons at some point in pre-history and many overlap. There are those traders within the city, most of whom sail to distant lands semi-regularly, who bring back with them figures of gods from various cultures which typically find their way into a temple without much fuss.

In the last several decades, small military adventures into the interior have proven fruitful in bringing much needed farmland to Eroshia's aid. Villages and towns outside of the city are uncommon, but there are at least half a dozen towns scattered in the territory which Eroshia claims control over. While many of them do not pay tribute to Eroshia directly, they all do have small garrisons, typically raised from the local population, that sends messages to the city should a threat approach from the interior.

Military Description: The military of Eroshia is the typical levy based system. There is a standing guard in the city of some 300 men. These are the best fighters the city can muster and are typically armed with spears, shields, and bows. A typical levy from Eroshia can raise almost 2500 men for offensive action, or 5500 men and women for defensive of the city. The city has little in the way of cavalry, but it can raise about 250 noblemen to act as a light cavalry force should the need arise. On the offensive, the army typically fights in lock-step phalanx fashion with a large screen of archers to pelt enemy armies with arrows from a distance and give the phalanx a weaker foe to face in battle.

Naval Description: The navy of Eroshia is relatively small. Some 20 ships in total. However, due to the large numbers of trained archers, these twenty ships have gained a reputation for being decisively effective against pirates and other naval vessels. While the ships can ram and sink opposing ships, the preferred method of warfare includes killing or weakening the enemy on a ship and then boarding the ship to take control of it for future use.

Color for Map: Some darker shade of Teal

That seems to be in order, assuming all of those twenty ships aren't Triremes. Accepted. I'll map you and whatnot in a jiff.

Fixed map; is this better?

Civilization Application
Formal Name: The Sacred Indautai Empire
Form of Government: Theocratic absolute monarchy: the Sajyilyr (Indautai word; roughly translates to 'Shepherd') acts as a holy monarch; His word is the Law of the Indautai God, known as the Buir (roughly 'Father' or 'Allfather'). Sajyilyr is pronounced 'Sahdg-yeel-yur'. The Sajyilyr can only conceive one child, and must do so when he is nearing the age of death - such is the Law of the Buir from prior Sajyilyrs. The Sajyilyr's word is law and no one may question him; the Ta'hye Ke'gyce be Buir (roughly 'Holy Order of the Father') is the only legal church/religion in Indau. The Indautai people are fiercely loyal to their religion and are thus fiercely loyal to the Sajyilyr. The Sajyilyr is believed to reincarnate by the will of the Buir within the next born son of his; and so, he is to get many wives. If more than one wife conceives, the Ta'hye Ke'gyce Laamyc Salyr ('High Priests') must decide which child is the Sajyilyr's next form to incarnate into. The Sajyilyr's wives are to be young and fresh so as to ensure extremely probable birth of the next Sajyilyr. The Sajyilyr listens to the Laamyc Salyr as an advisory court in terms of law, order and military matters.
Location: Light blue, please.
Brief History: The nation of Indau was founded by the Indautai people; a very strongly religious people who believed they were blessed by their God for being protected from the harsh environment they live around. The Sacred Indautai Empire was founded when the First Sajyilyr was born and revealed the word of the Buir, the True God. The Sajyilyr has ruled ever since through his reincarnations thanks to the Buir.

The Indautai people are staunchly religious and fiercely loyal people; thus, they will not easily break trust or alliance once it is forged, even if it is despite religious and cultural differences. They are also proud servants to the Buir; who wills them to protect Indau from all of its enemies.
Military Description: 400 strong; formed up of the Sajyilyr's guard, who protect Indau for him and for the Buir.
Naval Description: Several ships, mostly small; several ports due to positioning.
Color for Map: Light blue or any color you can manage, really.

Looks good to me, welcome to our friend at the bottom of the Known World. Accepted as well.

*Tips fedora*
Civilization Application
Formal Name: The Isle of Phoenicia Nova
Form of Government: Republican Oligarchy
Location: The whole island of sicily.
Brief History:
The story of Phoenicia Nova starts with the establishment of a company called Zanai in Tyre. Tyre was the greatest trade city of ancient world. In that city you could find everything from dyes to weaponry, in the large warehouses in the city. Zanai dealt in coal and oils, both very flammable. They grew bigger and bigger by buying other ships and buying companies for a large profit. The coal and oils being transported needed to be transported with the most upmost respect, one spark could light a fire. Meanwhile, in a barbarian island in the middle of the mediterranian, the first few trading settlements were being built on the isle of Sicily. One was called Tyre Nova, and it was established near the straits of messina. It grew prosperous, establishing a small tax through the strait.The town grew and grew. Back to Zanai. Zanai was eventually bought out by a even larger company called Ikelion. Ikelion was much less careless, but a accident still never happened. Untill April the first, 507 BC. Thee was a festival of fire going on. A convoy carrying the coal goods. It only took a second, but the convoy caught on fire. The fire quickly spread to surrounding buildings. The Great Fire of Tyre was underway. Once it was done, Tyre was ruined as a city. But while Tyre fell, Tyre Nova flourished. It was led by a man called Balasru the Great, a elected ruler. He made the first citizen army, and actively expanded his territory. By the year 501 BC, he stretched his nation across the entire isle of Sicily. So lives the isle of Phoenicia Nova.
Military Description:
The army of Phoenicia Nova is a citizen army. It is a small force, just about 900 strong. All soldiers, however must own there own shield and sword. They are well trained, but have home jobs, and are called upon in a emergency.
Naval Description: The navy is one of the largest in the Mediterranean. There are 20 triemes. Each rower must prove he is skilled with a oar, and must know how to handle himself in a battle. Most ships use arrows, the occasional are armed with battering rams.
Color for Map: Fabulous turqoise

Hmm, I'm probably happier with ~12-15 Triremes, if you don't mind. That said, otherwise this application is looking fine.

So I'm thinking of doing a Celtic nation in either Southern France/Northern Spain or the Balkans, also considering doing a nomadic Persian nation in central Iran but I don't know too much about that region.

You don't have to worry about the culture of the region you are setting up in, though it is undoubtedly helpful. This is an AH RP, so you can incorporate as little or as much of your region's source material as you feel appropriate.

[Rygondria]

well then, need to find a new location for my nation, any suggestions ?

[Theyra]

well then, need to find a new location for my nation, any suggestions ?

The Isles, Africa, Russia, Norway, Denmark, Finland, Sweden, western Europe?

[Narintia]

13 triemes ought to be alright. Any other problems G-Tech?

[The V O I D]

Thanks, G-Tech.

I have strong ambitions for the Indautai people and for Indau itself. I'm hoping to make it this world's Rome; or at least, Rome for East/North Africa and the Middle East...

Depending on how things play out, maybe I'll get there, or maybe I'll be conquered by the Middle Eastern Rome which isn't me.

[G-Tech Corporation]

13 triemes ought to be alright. Any other problems G-Tech?

Nope, that was my sole objection. Edit it in, and you'll be good to go.

[Trotza]

well then, need to find a new location for my nation, any suggestions ?

Tarraconensis, Gallaecia, or Dacia-Pannonia perhaps?

[The Knights of Azorea]

I've just written quite a large rework of the military of the Porphyrae (From one paragraph to nine), and in it I've put some numbers. I am trying my best to find any sources on the numbers of troops a state such as mine should be able to raise, but it is seeming to be no mean feat. As such, I am rather sure that I have made some glaring mis-calculations and ended up with some numbers that don't make any sense. With the highly mutable nature of it in mind, I'm going to put it up for review.

[Reverend Norv]

I have decided, by the by, to use Armenian names for Pelitine characters, with a few Greek ones scattered in there to represent the cosmopolitan nature of the city. Since there are no surviving Anatolian Indo-European languages, I figure Armenian is probably the closest living equivalent to what Pelitines would have spoken.

[G-Tech Corporation]

@ Az: What I'm seeing is looking fine, though your forces of guardsmen might be a bit large to support on full-time duty without financial strain.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Alright folks, IC is up. There's an inciting incident in the form of the Pirate King of Jeled (Greece) perishing, and thus the Eastern Med being freed up from his naval dominance and extensive disruption to the bronze trade routes his power maintained.

Don't forget, you can always TG me ideas for technological innovations to be made.

[Narintia]

Alright folks, IC is up. There's an inciting incident in the form of the Pirate King of Jeled (Greece) perishing, and thus the Eastern Med being freed up from his naval dominance and extensive disruption to the bronze trade routes his power maintained.

Don't forget, you can always TG me ideas for technological innovations to be made.

Grand, I'll get a introduction post. By the way, you never sent me the TG containing the resources on the island of sicily.

[G-Tech Corporation]

*Tips fedora*
Civilization Application
Formal Name: The Isle of Phoenicia Nova
Form of Government: Republican Oligarchy
Location: The whole island of sicily.
Brief History:
The story of Phoenicia Nova starts with the establishment of a company called Zanai in Tyre. Tyre was the greatest trade city of ancient world. In that city you could find everything from dyes to weaponry, in the large warehouses in the city. Zanai dealt in coal and oils, both very flammable. They grew bigger and bigger by buying other ships and buying companies for a large profit. The coal and oils being transported needed to be transported with the most upmost respect, one spark could light a fire. Meanwhile, in a barbarian island in the middle of the mediterranian, the first few trading settlements were being built on the isle of Sicily. One was called Tyre Nova, and it was established near the straits of messina. It grew prosperous, establishing a small tax through the strait.The town grew and grew. Back to Zanai. Zanai was eventually bought out by a even larger company called Ikelion. Ikelion was much less careless, but a accident still never happened. Untill April the first, 507 BC. Thee was a festival of fire going on. A convoy carrying the coal goods. It only took a second, but the convoy caught on fire. The fire quickly spread to surrounding buildings. The Great Fire of Tyre was underway. Once it was done, Tyre was ruined as a city. But while Tyre fell, Tyre Nova flourished. It was led by a man called Balasru the Great, a elected ruler. He made the first citizen army, and actively expanded his territory. By the year 501 BC, he stretched his nation across the entire isle of Sicily. So lives the isle of Phoenicia Nova.
Military Description:
The army of Phoenicia Nova is a citizen army. It is a small force, just about 900 strong. All soldiers, however must own there own shield and sword. They are well trained, but have home jobs, and are called upon in a emergency.
Naval Description: The navy is one of the largest in the Mediterranean. There are 13 triemes. Each rower must prove he is skilled with a oar, and must know how to handle himself in a battle. Most ships use arrows, the occasional are armed with battering rams.
Color for Map: Fabulous turqoise

Aaannnnddd accepted, post edit. Will get details and so forth edited in.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Righto- we're not actually closed, since I'll still take applications from anyone who has already posted here. But with 16 nations, we should be fairly well set for at least a bit

[Reverend Norv]

Nifty. Just so we're clear, this Barisos with all the copper - it's in the western Peloponnese, in the vicinity of what would have been Olympia, right?

[The Knights of Azorea]

Conveniently enough, Guess who happens to have copper as their resource? That's right, a trading confederacy near you!

[G-Tech Corporation]

Nifty. Just so we're clear, this Barisos with all the copper - it's in the western Peloponnese, in the vicinity of what would have been Olympia, right?

Yerp, you've got it.

[Reverend Norv]

Oh, also: there's a reference in my history that the "men of Crete" destroyed the fifth incarnation of Peliton, three lifetimes / 150 years ago. Can I assume that this refers to Nem'Jeled, whose territory includes Crete?

[G-Tech Corporation]

Oh, also: there's a reference in my history that the "men of Crete" destroyed the fifth incarnation of Peliton, three lifetimes / 150 years ago. Can I assume that this refers to Nem'Jeled, whose territory includes Crete?

I'm perfectly alright with that.

[The V O I D]

I am probably going to post of the current Sajyilyr doing something involving the Empire and probably going to trade with the Egyptian nation considering they're the closest in proximity to me that I know of.

[Rygondria]

Still kinda want to make it a Greek Colony/City state though

[G-Tech Corporation]

Still kinda want to make it a Greek Colony/City state though

That's perfectly fine. There's plenty of room in Anatolia, Syria, or North Africa.