RWDT RP: OOC and Apps

by **Nusaresa** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:25 pm

Drone warfare a-okay? o:

by **United Marxist Nations** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:25 pm

Nusaresa wrote:Drone warfare a-okay? o:

Yes, of course.

by **Grand Britannia** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:39 pm

Her Majesty's Imperial Armed Forces

*Estimates, all of them

by **Socialist Nordia** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:39 pm

I've noticed central Italy and the area around the Vatican has gone unclaimed. I'm surprised no one opted to RP as the Papal State. That would certainly be interesting.

by **-Fahrong-** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:45 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:
Democratic East-Asia wrote:It is so much simpler in china. The Revolutionary Communist Party is the only real one in charge, although other smaller ones claim roughly ~30% of the congress (including a number of left-leaning capitalist parties).

Also, can't get over the fact USA doesn't have panama canal...

This survived.

But if thats the case, why would Scotland have joined the United Kingdom? It wouldnt have gone bankrupt like in real life...

by **Democratic East-Asia** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:48 pm

The National People's Revolutionary Army
The Chinese NPRA is the primary ground based military organization of the Proletarian Union. It relies heavily on advanced technology and large numbers, and is thoroughly modernized.

Active Personnel: 3,500,000
Reserve Personnel: 2,500,000
Citizenry immediately available for service: 20,000,000

Typical equipment:

>CM-501G
>HJ-8

>Type-4 body armor. Lighter than western variants.
>A rip-off of the American Land Warrior system, but no less effective
>Modern helmets. Same protective value as vest.
>Night vision. + Thermal imaging

>Mach-10 "hypersonic" missiles.
>Type-99 tank (With a more powerful engine)
>VT-4 tank (China's equivalent of the T-14 Armata)
>ZBD-97, ZBD2000
>Type-89 personnel carrier
>WZ-551
>ZBL-09
>Weishi Rocket Systems
>PLZ-05, PLZ-07

Reserve Equipment:
>Various Cold War era Chinese weapons, although many use what's listed above.
Such as the old Type-85

The National People's Revolutionary Navy

The NPRN is China's primary naval arm of the military, and is incredibly large due to its immense funding (partially to combat Japanese and European aggression). It's quite modern, and boasts a large force of carriers and submarines, many which are recent models. Nuclear submarines in particular are a strong suit of China's navy, and make up a significant part of the navy's strength.

Total Naval Strength: 900

Nuclear battleships: 15

Aircraft Carriers: 25 (15 nuclear super carriers. Comparable to American models. 10 smaller ones)

Frigates: 62

Destroyers: 112

Corvettes: 28

Submarines: 185 (We're proud of our sub force)

Coastal Defense Craft: 46

Mine Warfare: 16

And tons of auxiliaries.

by **Grand Britannia** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:50 pm

-Fahrong- wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:
This survived.

But if thats the case, why would Scotland have joined the United Kingdom? It wouldnt have gone bankrupt like in real life...

Fighting the Spanish off the isthmus does.

by **Democratic East-Asia** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:51 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:
-Fahrong- wrote:But if thats the case, why would Scotland have joined the United Kingdom? It wouldnt have gone bankrupt like in real life...

Fighting the Spanish off the isthmus does.

And here's China trying to make more ships.

by **Nusaresa** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:51 pm

Democratic East-Asia wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:
Fighting the Spanish off the isthmus does.

And here's China trying to make more ships.

is2g if you engage with britannia

by **FelrikTheDeleted** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:54 pm

Socialist Nordia wrote:I've noticed central Italy and the area around the Vatican has gone unclaimed. I'm surprised no one opted to RP as the Papal State. That would certainly be interesting.

Some one claimed the southern half, I just can't remember who.

by **United Marxist Nations** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:01 pm

Democratic East-Asia wrote:The National People's Revolutionary Army
The Chinese NPRA is the primary ground based military organization of the Proletarian Union. It relies heavily on advanced technology and large numbers, and is thoroughly modernized.

Active Personnel: 3,500,000
Reserve Personnel: 2,500,000
Citizenry immediately available for service: 20,000,000

Typical equipment:
>JS 9mm
>QBZ-95
>QBZ-03
>QSZ-92
>QX-04
>QBB-95
>W-87
>QBU-88

>CM-501G
>HJ-8

>Type-4 body armor. Lighter than western variants.
>A rip-off of the American Land Warrior system, but no less effective
>Modern helmets. Same protective value as vest
>Night vision. + Thermal imaging

>Mach-10 "hypersonic" missiles.
>Type-99 tank (With a more powerful engine)
>VT-4 tank (China's equivalent of the T-14 Armata)
>ZBD-97, ZBD2000
>Type-89 personnel carrier
>WZ-551
>ZBL-09
>Weishi Rocket Systems
>PLZ-05, PLZ-07

Reserve Equipment:
>Various Cold War era Chinese weapons, although many use what's listed above.
Such as the old Type-85

The National People's Revolutionary Navy

The NPRN is China's primary naval arm of the military, and is incredibly large due to its immense funding (partially to combat Japanese and European aggression). It's quite modern, and boasts a large force of carriers and submarines, many which are recent models. Nuclear submarines in particular are a strong suit of China's navy, and make up a significant part of the navy's strength.

Total Naval Strength: 820

Aircraft Carriers: 18 (All nuclear carriers. Comparable to American models.)

Frigates: 61

Destroyers: 85

Corvettes: 28

Submarines: 152 (We're proud of our sub force)

Coastal Defense Craft: 46

Mine Warfare: 12

Land Systems

Tanks: 12,432

Armored Fighting Vehicles (AFVs): 41,981

Self-Propelled Guns: 2,520

Towed-Artillery: 5,920

Multiple-Launch Rocket Systems (MLRS): 1,918

Airpower

Total Aircraft: >15,000

Fighters / Interceptors: 4,690

Fixed Wing Attack Aircraft: 3,155

Transport Aircraft: 4,346

Stealth Bombers: 900

Trainer Aircraft: 1,056

Helicopters: 5,406

Attack Helicopters: 1,400

Roughly $1 trillion spent per year on the military. (these are estimates) Not to mention >20,000 nuclear warheads.

I'd ask that you trim down your navy, because, even $1 trillion would be nowhere near enough for the operating costs of all this together. For reference, everyone, the USSR used about a quarter of its GDP on the military industrial complex, which, in today's money, is about 800bln to 1trln. Unless you're going to tell more about your economy, try not to get too specific on your military, for fear of going either overboard or underboard. I've decided that, based on the economy of the USSR, and given a reasonable amount of economic growth from 1991-2016, that my economy would be somewhere around 8.7 Trln US$, so that is kind of where I aimed. You guys don't have to be as specific as I was and use such concrete data, but no one should go terribly overboard on their economy, keep it similar to IRL stats.

by **Democratic East-Asia** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:02 pm

I question how Britannia has some ~1,500 warships.

Well, I did mention in my app that I had a GDP per capita of $24,000. So that give a GDP of ~$26 trillion (which I just realized is really high). I could increase funding (double it). Going by the assumption that the sheer dedication of the workforce and usage of super-computers in the economy would let me keep a sizable level. China also modernized a few decades early fyi (no cultural revolution or any of that crap). Not to mention we don't have as much slack (extra population) to take care of. I might be pushing it, but that's going to be the way as of now, assuming the economy stays sizable.

by **Minzerland II** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:06 pm

I should add that my navy section in my military app is merely a single fleet.

by **Democratic East-Asia** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:07 pm

Minzerland II wrote:I should add that my navy section in my military app is merely a single fleet.

You probably aren't going to into navy that much, given your location.

by **United Marxist Nations** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:08 pm

Democratic East-Asia wrote:I question how Britannia has some ~2,000 warships.

Well, I did mention in my app that I had a GDP per capita of $24,000. So that give a GDP of ~$26 trillion (which I just realized is really high). I could increase funding (double it). Going by the assumption that the sheer dedication of the workforce and usage of super-computers in the economy would let me keep a sizable level. Not to mention we don't have as much slack (extra population) to take care of.

1100, and 'warships' is vague. It could mean very light craft, though, I actually didn't read all of their app until just now, I just noticed "18 nuclear aircraft carriers", and got worried that you were going overboard. For reference, I mean, I only have one carrier, and it isn't a supercarrier. I don't want to have to deal with every other major power having the best of the best all around in everything, and then be the only guy in the RP who is trying to limit their strength to a realistic level.

by **Democratic East-Asia** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:09 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Democratic East-Asia wrote:I question how Britannia has some ~2,000 warships.

Well, I did mention in my app that I had a GDP per capita of $24,000. So that give a GDP of ~$26 trillion (which I just realized is really high). I could increase funding (double it). Going by the assumption that the sheer dedication of the workforce and usage of super-computers in the economy would let me keep a sizable level. Not to mention we don't have as much slack (extra population) to take care of.

1100, and 'warships' is vague. It could mean very light craft, though, I actually didn't read all of their app until just now, I just noticed "18 nuclear aircraft carriers", and got worried that you were going overboard. For reference, I mean, I only have one carrier, and it isn't a supercarrier. I don't want to have to deal with every other major power having the best of the best all around in everything, and then be the only guy in the RP who is trying to limit their strength to a realistic level.

America is known to have 20 carriers as of today. I'll probably have to double my military spending.

by **United Marxist Nations** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:11 pm

Democratic East-Asia wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:1100, and 'warships' is vague. It could mean very light craft, though, I actually didn't read all of their app until just now, I just noticed "18 nuclear aircraft carriers", and got worried that you were going overboard. For reference, I mean, I only have one carrier, and it isn't a supercarrier. I don't want to have to deal with every other major power having the best of the best all around in everything, and then be the only guy in the RP who is trying to limit their strength to a realistic level.

America is known to have 20 carriers as of today. I'll probably have to double my military spending.

The US IRL has 10 Aircraft carriers, and that's with a smaller airforce and army than you were listing.

by **Democratic East-Asia** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:11 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Democratic East-Asia wrote:America is known to have 20 carriers as of today. I'll probably have to double my military spending.

The US IRL has 10 Aircraft carriers, and that's with a smaller airforce and army than you were listing.

http://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=united-states-of-america

Was referring to this list. Might not correspond. (edit: 19)

by **United Marxist Nations** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:13 pm

Democratic East-Asia wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:The US IRL has 10 Aircraft carriers, and that's with a smaller airforce and army than you were listing.

http://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=united-states-of-america

Was referring to this list. Might not correspond. (edit: 19)

That's including helicopter carriers, which are a whole different beast to the nuclear carriers.

by **Democratic East-Asia** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:14 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Democratic East-Asia wrote:http://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.asp?country_id=united-states-of-america

Was referring to this list. Might not correspond. (edit: 19)

That's including helicopter carriers, which are a whole different beast to the nuclear carriers.

Alright then, I better edit a few of them off. Or I could go with the whole "double the budget" thing.

by **Grand Britannia** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:15 pm

The US has 9 commissioned supercarriers and 10 amphibious assault ships.

The former is huge, the latter is considered a regular small carrier by other nation's standards. Additionally, my fleets are mostly composed of destroyers and subs. I haven't decided the ratio of ships like carriers AAS and patrol ships.

by **Democratic East-Asia** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:16 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:The US has 9 commissioned supercarriers and 10 amphibious assault ships.

The former is huge, the latter is considered a regular small carrier by other nation's standards. Additionally, my fleets are mostly composed of destroyers and subs. I haven't decided the ratio of ships like carriers AAS and patrol ships.

Hmm.

by **Minzerland II** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:21 pm

Democratic East-Asia wrote:
Minzerland II wrote:I should add that my navy section in my military app is merely a single fleet.

You probably aren't going to into navy that much, given your location.

I have 3 more fleets too, that makes 4 fleets of the same composition in total.

by **Democratic East-Asia** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:28 pm

I'm waiting for Japan to show up. No world is complete without them.

by **FelrikTheDeleted** » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:31 pm

Minzerland II wrote:
Democratic East-Asia wrote:You probably aren't going to into navy that much, given your location.

I have 3 more fleets too, that makes 4 fleets of the same composition in total.

I have six fleets same composition.

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