RWDT RP: OOC and Apps

[FelrikTheDeleted]

That is how it works actually, you would be the aggressor because you'd be instigating a war. I never said I wouldn't attempt at diplomacy, however I doubt you would agree to any diplomatic actions anyway.

Are you referring to my military or UMN, because if you're referring to UMN, in this case it does matter, because he, Ashkera and Void are the strongest nations in game; army wise no it doesn't always matter, also are you sure you didn't just upgrade your amount of men for your own convenience.
Also being next to UMN has the advantage of giving me recent knowledge and equipment concerning military technology, we're either equal in technological equipment, slightly ahead of you, or you're slightly ahead of me, I'm also a friend of Minzerland of which is extremely militaristic too.
You definitely don't out-tech me by a long stretch.

Except any government with a brain probably realises that the name is extremely misleading, nonetheless, as much as I like Mattopolis, I'm not going to risk a Great War over him.

What is happening is basically Irak. Declaring war over a peace-keeping operation (or at least something that is turned as so) while automatically make you look like the baddie even if you would technically be right to oppose said war.

Ashkera? The strongest nation in the game? I mean sure, they're a force to be reckoned with but they're by no mean a world power.
Also, don't underestimate Britannia and me. We are basically the second and third biggest Empire after Russia and have a little more than half a billion population each in top of controlling a shit load of the raw precious ressources. And it's for that very reason I upgraded my amount of men. I had less than 0.2% of my population in the military which made litteraly no sense. Now I've 1.2% which makes way more given that I'm supposed to be a militaristic and imperialist power.

And knowledge of recent military technology don't actually mean owning recent military technology. It cost a lot of money to actually equip your men with them and what is already putting a big strain on the budget of rich nations should put an even bigger on smaller and less rich ones like your. Thinking that you only have a "slight" disadvantage sound honestly like you're trying to cheat your way here.
I mean, I'm by no way an all mighty power and am matched and even bested by a lot of other countries but there is no realistic denying that my army is stronger than your and not "by a small edge".

It's not peace keeping operations, it's an excuse to expand your interests and expand your territory, an excuse to bring order to a country that doesn't require order, which IIRC, comes under imperialism.

Ashkera is the most technologically advanced nation from my knowledge, especially in military areas of research, she's arguably one of the strongest nations in game.
I will concur that's a reasonable reason to increase the size.

Knowledge of a technology helps me build that technology (One of the reasons I'm protecting him is because he supplies the metals needed, I could use mine, however it's cheaper to buy from him), knowledge referring to more than simply being aware of its existence, I do more than build these thing my self, to be honest I exploit others to achieve this, Minzerland also provides me with some technologies should he discover them.
I could just as easily accuse you of cheating, after raising your military population, after all you've been committing the act of ethnic cleansing, it would take a lot longer than a couple hundred years to recover the population of your colonies. (Assuming you started colonising at the same time as everyone else, which you would have, otherwise that could be considered cheating)
Technologically wise, I'm not behind you, military population wise, yes I am.

[Aelex]

It's not peace keeping operations, it's an excuse to expand your interests and expand your territory, an excuse to bring order to a country that doesn't require order, which IIRC, comes under imperialism.

Ashkera is the most technologically advanced nation from my knowledge, especially in military areas of research, she's arguably one of the strongest nations in game.
I will concur that's a reasonable reason to increase the size.

Knowledge of a technology helps me build that technology (One of the reasons I'm protecting him is because he supplies the metals needed, I could use mine, however it's cheaper to buy from him), knowledge referring to more than simply being aware of its existence, I do more than build these thing my self, to be honest I exploit others to achieve this, Minzerland also provides me with some technologies should he discover them.
I could just as easily accuse you of cheating, after raising your military population, after all you've been committing the act of ethnic cleansing, it would take a lot longer than a couple hundred years to recover the population of your colonies. (Assuming you started colonising at the same time as everyone else, which you would have, otherwise that could be considered cheating)

Absolutely. I've never hidden that, far from it. But it sound nicer to call it "Peace-Keeping Operation". P.C exist even in France, what can I say?

Sure, she is technologically advanced as hell and very efficient. But she is a single nation with limited access to rare ressource. She is a regionnal power, not a world one.

And knowledge of technology don't make building said technology any cheaper. Do you know just how much a single fighter plane cost? How much an artillery cost? This shit is fucking expensive, mate.
And let me precise that when I said ethnic cleansing, I was not talking about Genocide, far from it, but rather the good old French tradition of removing the local culture and implementing their own. It's not working perfectly but it's still working nonetheless. Even if I had, tho, the point would still have been kinda moot given that I've been implementing pro-natality policy since the late 19th century.

[Minzerland II]

How many aircraft do you have Aelex?

[Aelex]

How many aircraft do you have Aelex?

I'll make my ORBAT soon.

[Minzerland II]

How many aircraft do you have Aelex?

I'll make my ORBAT soon.

No problem. I was just curious, mine is about five hundred aircraft of varying type.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

It's not peace keeping operations, it's an excuse to expand your interests and expand your territory, an excuse to bring order to a country that doesn't require order, which IIRC, comes under imperialism.

Ashkera is the most technologically advanced nation from my knowledge, especially in military areas of research, she's arguably one of the strongest nations in game.
I will concur that's a reasonable reason to increase the size.

Knowledge of a technology helps me build that technology (One of the reasons I'm protecting him is because he supplies the metals needed, I could use mine, however it's cheaper to buy from him), knowledge referring to more than simply being aware of its existence, I do more than build these thing my self, to be honest I exploit others to achieve this, Minzerland also provides me with some technologies should he discover them.
I could just as easily accuse you of cheating, after raising your military population, after all you've been committing the act of ethnic cleansing, it would take a lot longer than a couple hundred years to recover the population of your colonies. (Assuming you started colonising at the same time as everyone else, which you would have, otherwise that could be considered cheating)

Absolutely. I've never hidden that, far from it. But it sound nicer to call it "Peace-Keeping Operation". P.C exist even in France, what can I say?

Sure, she is technologically advanced as hell and very efficient. But she is a single nation with limited access to rare ressource. She is a regionnal power, not a world one.

And knowledge of technology don't make building said technology any cheaper. Do you know just how much a single fighter plane cost? How much an artillery cost? This shit is fucking expensive, mate.
And let me precise that when I said ethnic cleansing, I was not talking about Genocide, far from it, but rather the good old French tradition of removing the local culture and implementing their own. It's not working perfectly but it's still working nonetheless. Even if I had, tho, the point would still have been kinda moot given that I've been implementing pro-natality policy since the late 19th century.

So you have to admit you are he aggressor, considering you have no excuse to actually invade this 'chaotic' land of which is actually orderly.

I will concede the point about Ashkera.

I never said having the knowledge of the technology makes building said things easier, I said I buy the materials cheaper (which makes it extremely cheap compared to making the materials myself), I exploit others, such as: Spain and Germany into giving me materials (in the case of Matt and possibly Dan); not to mention the black market and a number of other ways of getting these things.
When one uses the term ethnic cleansing, it usually indicates that you cleansed the ethnic group by pushing them off your land.

At this point the argument has became the old: "which one of us has the biggest dick".

[FelrikTheDeleted]

If anyone wonders by and wonders what's going on, basically, me and Aelex got in a fight over his planned invasion of Spain, and whether or not I have equal or near to equal technological standing in the military sense, as he does. (I do!).

[FelrikTheDeleted]

@Aelex, I will admit that arming my men with such the equipment and paying for such equipment would put strain on my country, especially without my allies helping. (It would be absolutely impossible to keep afloat without allies)

[Aelex]

So you have to admit you are he aggressor, considering you have no excuse to actually invade this 'chaotic' land of which is actually orderly.

I will concede the point about Ashkera.

I never said having the knowledge of the technology makes building said things easier, I said I buy the materials cheaper (which makes it extremely cheap compared to making the materials myself), I exploit others, such as: Spain and Germany into giving me materials (in the case of Matt and possibly Dan); not to mention the black market and a number of other ways of getting these things.
When one uses the term ethnic cleansing, it usually indicates that you cleansed the ethnic group by pushing them off your land.

At this point the argument has became the old: "which one of us has the biggest dick".

Ho sure. I will never admit it publicly and still try to frame it as if we're merely defending ourselves Irak style, tho. :^D

And sure, you have the materials for cheaper but a single fighter plane still cost around 70 millions euro to produce and quite some more to buy one either legally or illegaly. As I said earlier, this shit is expensive.

And well, ethnic cleansing include basically every way one remove a culture either throught direct force or assimilation. But yeah, I basically meant a bigger wider and longer vergonha.

And yeah, basically.

[Aelex]

@Aelex, I will admit that arming my men with such the equipment and paying for such equipment would put strain on my country.

I mean, I'm not saying that you can't have them at all or that your military is utterly feeble when compared to mine, far from it. I'm just saying that as a great power and a secondary power (to steal vicky II terms) we aren't on par neither.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

So you have to admit you are he aggressor, considering you have no excuse to actually invade this 'chaotic' land of which is actually orderly.

I will concede the point about Ashkera.

I never said having the knowledge of the technology makes building said things easier, I said I buy the materials cheaper (which makes it extremely cheap compared to making the materials myself), I exploit others, such as: Spain and Germany into giving me materials (in the case of Matt and possibly Dan); not to mention the black market and a number of other ways of getting these things.
When one uses the term ethnic cleansing, it usually indicates that you cleansed the ethnic group by pushing them off your land.

At this point the argument has became the old: "which one of us has the biggest dick".

Ho sure. I will never admit it publicly and still try to frame it as if we're merely defending ourselves Irak style, tho. :^D

And sure, you have the materials for cheaper but a single fighter plane still cost around 70 millions euro to produce and quite some more to buy one either legally or illegaly. As I said earlier, this shit is expensive.

And well, ethnic cleansing include basically every way one remove a culture either throught direct force or assimilation. But yeah, I basically meant a bigger wider and longer vergonha.

And yeah, basically.

I will let you invade him, not much I can do to stop it anyhow, all I can do is fund.

That's why I only have 40 jets in my country.

Alright then I'll concede that.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

@Aelex, I will admit that arming my men with such the equipment and paying for such equipment would put strain on my country.

I mean, I'm not saying that you can't have them at all or that your military is utterly feeble when compared to mine, far from it. I'm just saying that as a great power and a secondary power (to steal vicky II terms) we aren't on par neither.

I'm not saying I could beat you one on one in a war of that I can produce enough of these things to face you, I'm just saying that I'm either equal or near to equal in military technological knowledge and equipment at the moment (emphasis on 'at the moment'), after all you don't grow up in Europe as a country without learning fast as fuck.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

Tfw the only place you can expand into is Poland...

[Aelex]

I'm not saying I could beat you one on one in a war of that I can produce enough of these things to face you, I'm just saying that I'm either equal or near to equal in military technological knowledge and equipment at the moment (emphasis on 'at the moment'), after all you don't grow up in Europe as a country without learning fast as fuck.

Meh, fair enough I suppose.

[Democratic East-Asia]

Are you referring to my military or UMN, because if you're referring to UMN, in this case it does matter, because he, Ashkera and Void are the strongest nations in game; army wise no it doesn't always matter, also are you sure you didn't just upgrade your amount of men for your own convenience.
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China cries. $2.5 Trillion budget for nothing.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

Are you referring to my military or UMN, because if you're referring to UMN, in this case it does matter, because he, Ashkera and Void are the strongest nations in game; army wise no it doesn't always matter, also are you sure you didn't just upgrade your amount of men for your own convenience.
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China cries. $2.5 Trillion budget for nothing.

Well you're pretty strong, but they're the strongest no doubt, although Ashkera being a major world power is debatable, as is demonstrated by Aelex.

[-Fahrong-]

Are you referring to my military or UMN, because if you're referring to UMN, in this case it does matter, because he, Ashkera and Void are the strongest nations in game; army wise no it doesn't always matter, also are you sure you didn't just upgrade your amount of men for your own convenience.
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China cries. $2.5 Trillion budget for nothing.

Money isnt everything in war.

[Arachno-Satinism]

Very wip, torn whether to make this a monarchy or just plain republic. Basically your standard fare liberal nation...though maybe in an unorthodox background.

Formal Nation Name: Gûrkâniyân
Informal Nation Name (optional): Khorasan, the Sultanate of the 'Ajam (lit. "mute", derogatory term for non-Arab speakers prolly used in jochiland), Persia, Takht-i Tavus ("Peacock Throne"), the Timurids, the Timurid Empire
Government Type: Democratic Federal Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State: Padishah Ata-Malek Shahrukh Khan Timurid
Head of Government: Prime Minister Sorghaghtani Juvayni
Flag: http://www.eu4wiki.com/images/e/e6/Mughals.png
Coat of Arms: TBA
Population: 112,000,000
Military Population: 800,000
Map: On phone D:< the empty Iranian-Afghani slot pls
History: TBA
Economic Life (optional): Leaning towards degenerate liberal capitalism, though with a social democratic pseudo-corporatist streak with ebil gubmint controlling key resources.
Social Life (optional): Extremely socially liberal, wide tolerance towards non-Muslims, with millions of Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Christians, and Jews living alongside the Believers. The government is officially secular and favours no religion, and the current prime minister is a female practicing Vajrayana Buddhist. Multicultural, cosmopolitan, and progressive, with individualistic populace. Irreligion is a growing trend among the urbanites.

[Democratic East-Asia]

Well you're pretty strong, but they're the strongest no doubt, although Ashkera being a major world power is debatable, as is demonstrated by Aelex.

>Bigger GDP than Russia by over 2 times.
>Tries to maintain technically advanced, large army.
>Larger navy than RL America. (With almost no experience but who cares)
>Attempts North Korean thing with WMDs.

Also, you forgot Britannia. They have a huge fleet. Like really big. Ashkera's military isn't particularly large (navy wise), but their economy is very.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

Well you're pretty strong, but they're the strongest no doubt, although Ashkera being a major world power is debatable, as is demonstrated by Aelex.

>Bigger GDP than Russia by over 2 times.
>Tries to maintain technically advanced, large army.
>Larger navy than RL America. (With almost no experience but who cares)
>Attempts North Korean thing with WMDs.

Also, you forgot Britannia. They have a huge fleet. Like really big.

True....

[Democratic East-Asia]

For the Scandinavian player I recommend raising population. 9 million is awfully low.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

For the Scandinavian player I recommend raising population. 9 million is awfully low.

Especially when everyone else has populations going into 50+ range.

[-Fahrong-]

For the Scandinavian player I recommend raising population. 9 million is awfully low.

Especially when everyone else has populations going into 50+ range.

I was just thinking the fact, that im pretty sure more people live there then that today.

Very wip, torn whether to make this a monarchy or just plain republic. Basically your standard fare liberal nation...though maybe in an unorthodox background.

Formal Nation Name: Gûrkâniyân
Informal Nation Name (optional): Khorasan, the Sultanate of the 'Ajam (lit. "mute", derogatory term for non-Arab speakers prolly used in jochiland), Persia, Takht-i Tavus ("Peacock Throne"), the Timurids, the Timurid Empire
Government Type: Democratic Federal Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State: Padishah Ata-Malek Shahrukh Khan Timurid
Head of Government: Prime Minister Sorghaghtani Juvayni
Flag: http://www.eu4wiki.com/images/e/e6/Mughals.png
Coat of Arms: TBA
Population: 112,000,000
Military Population: 800,000
Map: On phone D:< the empty Iranian-Afghani slot pls
History: TBA
Economic Life (optional): Leaning towards degenerate liberal capitalism, though with a social democratic pseudo-corporatist streak with ebil gubmint controlling key resources.
Social Life (optional): Extremely socially liberal, wide tolerance towards non-Muslims, with millions of Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Christians, and Jews living alongside the Believers. The government is officially secular and favours no religion, and the current prime minister is a female practicing Vajrayana Buddhist. Multicultural, cosmopolitan, and progressive, with individualistic populace. Irreligion is a growing trend among the urbanites.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE! I have never been so disgusted with a country.

[Aelex]

>Bigger GDP than Russia by over 2 times.
>Tries to maintain technically advanced, large army.
>Larger navy than RL America. (With almost no experience but who cares)
>Attempts North Korean thing with WMDs.

Also, you forgot Britannia. They have a huge fleet. Like really big. Ashkera's military isn't particularly large (navy wise), but their economy is very.

And he also forgot me who has one of the best airforce in the world and arguably the best artillery.

[Democratic East-Asia]

-liberuls-

You okay with liberal commie China nearby?