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Postby Mattopilos » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:13 am

Minzerland II wrote:
Ashkera wrote:Not all of them, no, but it's possible to buy clay, practice espionage, and conduct lucrative trade in the area.

...I almost feel like we should start with the game with all of Mexico being a huge pile of anarchy, and not the warm, fluffy kind Mattopolis has.

Then again, how will this effect the balance of power?

Well, that'd be fun, really. I'm literally annexing Poland as soon as the game starts.[/quote]

Who's going for that empty part of Italy? If no one, I might incite some 'Class-consciousness' ;)
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:17 am

Mattopilos wrote:
Minzerland II wrote:

Then again, how will this effect the balance of power?

Well, that'd be fun, really. I'm literally annexing Poland as soon as the game starts.


Who's going for that empty part of Italy? If no one, I might incite some 'Class-consciousness' ;)[/quote]

Someone's claimed Italy, unfortunately, considering I was going to use it so as too attack Jochi should he attempt the Byzantine.
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:19 am

The V O I D wrote:I'm going to write an ORBAT, soon.

Also, just letting everyone know that before I do, the UAC/UAF's navy is either as large as the IRL US one, or is proportionally large compared to the average navy of this RP.

In other words, I have the most aircraft carriers, etc.


Noice, can't wait to see it.

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Postby Mattopilos » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:20 am

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Mattopilos wrote:Then again, how will this effect the balance of power?

Well, that'd be fun, really. I'm literally annexing Poland as soon as the game starts.


Who's going for that empty part of Italy? If no one, I might incite some 'Class-consciousness' ;)


Someone's claimed Italy.[/quote]

There is a small 'unclaimed' section in it.
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Postby Mattopilos » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:21 am

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:\

Someone's claimed Italy, unfortunately, considering I was going to use it so as too attack Jochi should he attempt the Byzantine.


What colour is he on the map?
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Postby The V O I D » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:22 am

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
The V O I D wrote:I'm going to write an ORBAT, soon.

Also, just letting everyone know that before I do, the UAC/UAF's navy is either as large as the IRL US one, or is proportionally large compared to the average navy of this RP.

In other words, I have the most aircraft carriers, etc.


Noice, can't wait to see it.


It's going to take me a while to write it up and try to be realistic.

If everyone's using an IRL ORBAT that is generally how large their stuff would be IRL, then I can do similar for my nation - just a simple copy-paste of the US ORBAT.

But if not, I have to figure out the proportions and realistically calculate them. Considering the US Navy has a 19 total aircraft carriers (a 20th one on the way!) compared to everyone else on the planet's combined 11 aircraft carriers, I'm going to assume an approximate 2 to 1 ratio. I'll simply double the number of the combined aircraft carriers of the world, subtract or add one, and that's the number of aircraft carriers I get.

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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:23 am

Mattopilos wrote:
FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Who's going for that empty part of Italy? If no one, I might incite some 'Class-consciousness' ;)


Someone's claimed Italy.


There is a small 'unclaimed' section in it.[/quote]

The centre I'm assuming, I wouldn't mind you being there, however, I know Old Tyrannia (Venice), Minzerland (Austria-Hungary) and whoever owns the southern half probably would.
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:26 am

Mattopilos wrote:
FelrikTheDeleted wrote:\

Someone's claimed Italy, unfortunately, considering I was going to use it so as too attack Jochi should he attempt the Byzantine.


What colour is he on the map?


Highlighted Green, he's Southern Italy

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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:27 am

The V O I D wrote:
FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Noice, can't wait to see it.


It's going to take me a while to write it up and try to be realistic.

If everyone's using an IRL ORBAT that is generally how large their stuff would be IRL, then I can do similar for my nation - just a simple copy-paste of the US ORBAT.

But if not, I have to figure out the proportions and realistically calculate them. Considering the US Navy has a 19 total aircraft carriers (a 20th one on the way!) compared to everyone else on the planet's combined 11 aircraft carriers, I'm going to assume an approximate 2 to 1 ratio. I'll simply double the number of the combined aircraft carriers of the world, subtract or add one, and that's the number of aircraft carriers I get.


Just keep in mind that the amount of personal each army has is in between 3 million and 5 million for all of us, for some reason we all got to those numbers.

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Postby Mattopilos » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:28 am

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Mattopilos wrote:
What colour is he on the map?


Highlighted Green, he's Southern Italy


Ah, there's a problem xD
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:30 am

Mattopilos wrote:


Ah, there's a problem xD


You should have seen my face.

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Postby Socialist Nordia » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:30 am

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Mattopilos wrote:
Someone's claimed Italy.


There is a small 'unclaimed' section in it.


The centre I'm assuming, I wouldn't mind you being there, however, I know Old Tyrannia (Venice), Minzerland (Austria-Hungary) and whoever owns the southern half probably would.[/quote]
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:31 am

Socialist Nordia wrote:
FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
There is a small 'unclaimed' section in it.


The centre I'm assuming, I wouldn't mind you being there, however, I know Old Tyrannia (Venice), Minzerland (Austria-Hungary) and whoever owns the southern half probably would.

I don't think anyone in Europe wants an anarchic Vatican.[/quote]

I know Minzerland doesn't.

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Postby Mattopilos » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:33 am

Socialist Nordia wrote:I don't think anyone in Europe wants an anarchic Vatican.


No one exactly wants an anarchic Spain, but they have to deal with it :P
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Postby Minzerland II » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:37 am

Mattopilos wrote:
Minzerland II wrote:Then again, how will this effect the balance of power?

Well, that'd be fun, really. I'm literally annexing Poland as soon as the game starts.


Who's going for that empty part of Italy? If no one, I might incite some 'Class-consciousness' ;)

Old Tyrannia. At least, I hope OT does. I'm looking for Venice to expand, and hopefully an ally. Can't get enough of ally cultivation, am I right? If anyone takes the area, I declare war.
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:39 am

Minzerland II wrote:
Mattopilos wrote:
Who's going for that empty part of Italy? If no one, I might incite some 'Class-consciousness' ;)

Old Tyrannia. At least, I hope OT does. I'm looking for Venice to expand, and hopefully an ally. Can't get enough of ally cultivation, am I right? If anyone takes the area, I declare war.


Told you he wouldn't be happy.

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Postby Socialist Nordia » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:41 am

Mattopilos wrote:
Socialist Nordia wrote:I don't think anyone in Europe wants an anarchic Vatican.


No one exactly wants an anarchic Spain, but they have to deal with it :P

I can't imagine that would fare well for the pope though, and I'm not sure that's something any of the catholic countries will tolerate.
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Postby Mattopilos » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:42 am

Socialist Nordia wrote:
Mattopilos wrote:
No one exactly wants an anarchic Spain, but they have to deal with it :P

I can't imagine that would fare well for the pope though, and I'm not sure that's something any of the catholic countries will tolerate.


Given what really happened in Spain during the Red Terror... I would say not xD
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:44 am

Minzerland II wrote:
Mattopilos wrote:Who's going for that empty part of Italy? If no one, I might incite some 'Class-consciousness' ;)

Old Tyrannia. At least, I hope OT does. I'm looking for Venice to expand, and hopefully an ally. Can't get enough of ally cultivation, am I right? If anyone takes the area, I declare war.

I'm assuming it's a modern-day Papal States, and am therefore leaving it independent both as a buffer state between me and Kauthar's psychotic version of the Two Sicilies and out of respect for the papacy. That said, the Republic will not tolerate any external interference in Italian affairs, and it certainly won't allow a communist uprising against the Holy See. In such a scenario I would expect the rebels to be promptly put down by a joint Venetian-Sicilian intervention.
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Postby Minzerland II » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:45 am

Socialist Nordia wrote:
Mattopilos wrote:
No one exactly wants an anarchic Spain, but they have to deal with it :P

I can't imagine that would fare well for the pope though, and I'm not sure that's something any of the catholic countries will tolerate.

I'm pretty sure Catholic nations are a minority. Might have to create the Catholic league in order to survive.
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Postby Mattopilos » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:45 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Minzerland II wrote:Old Tyrannia. At least, I hope OT does. I'm looking for Venice to expand, and hopefully an ally. Can't get enough of ally cultivation, am I right? If anyone takes the area, I declare war.

I'm assuming it's a modern-day Papal States, and am therefore leaving it independent both as a buffer state between me and Kauthar's psychotic version of the Two Sicilies and out of respect for the papacy. That said, the Republic will not tolerate any external interference in Italian affairs, and it certainly won't allow a communist uprising against the Holy See. In such a scenario I would expect the rebels to be promptly put down by a joint Venetian-Sicilian intervention.


True.
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:46 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Minzerland II wrote:Old Tyrannia. At least, I hope OT does. I'm looking for Venice to expand, and hopefully an ally. Can't get enough of ally cultivation, am I right? If anyone takes the area, I declare war.

I'm assuming it's a modern-day Papal States, and am therefore leaving it independent both as a buffer state between me and Kauthar's psychotic version of the Two Sicilies and out of respect for the papacy. That said, the Republic will not tolerate any external interference in Italian affairs, and it certainly won't allow a communist uprising against the Holy See. In such a scenario I would expect the rebels to be promptly put down by a joint Venetian-Sicilian intervention.


I'd join in too, I may be part of the Orthodox Block but I am a Catholic at heart.

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Postby Minzerland II » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:49 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Minzerland II wrote:Old Tyrannia. At least, I hope OT does. I'm looking for Venice to expand, and hopefully an ally. Can't get enough of ally cultivation, am I right? If anyone takes the area, I declare war.

I'm assuming it's a modern-day Papal States, and am therefore leaving it independent both as a buffer state between me and Kauthar's psychotic version of the Two Sicilies and out of respect for the papacy. That said, the Republic will not tolerate any external interference in Italian affairs, and it certainly won't allow a communist uprising against the Holy See. In such a scenario I would expect the rebels to be promptly put down by a joint Venetian-Sicilian intervention.

Oh well. I'll keep my grubby hands off it. I'll probably intervene too, in that scenario of course.

Just remember, take the chance when you can, I'm running out of room to expand. ;) Probably go for Northern Two Sicilies bordering me after annexing Poland.
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:51 am

Minzerland II wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:I'm assuming it's a modern-day Papal States, and am therefore leaving it independent both as a buffer state between me and Kauthar's psychotic version of the Two Sicilies and out of respect for the papacy. That said, the Republic will not tolerate any external interference in Italian affairs, and it certainly won't allow a communist uprising against the Holy See. In such a scenario I would expect the rebels to be promptly put down by a joint Venetian-Sicilian intervention.

Oh well. I'll keep my grubby hands off it. I'll probably intervene too, in that scenario of course.

Just remember, take the chance when you can, I'm running out of room to expand. ;) Probably go for Northern Two Sicilies bordering me after annexing Poland.


Threatening lands I see, I'll drag UMN into this.
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Postby Minzerland II » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:52 am

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Minzerland II wrote:Oh well. I'll keep my grubby hands off it. I'll probably intervene too, in that scenario of course.

Just remember, take the chance when you can, I'm running out of room to expand. ;) Probably go for Northern Two Sicilies bordering me after annexing Poland.


Threatening people I see, I'll drag UMN into this.

Threatening? no. Imperialism? national coercion? Certainly.
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