Blood and Iron [OOC/ALT-HISTORY/OPEN/REBOOT]

[Holoska]

I don't know how to write it, but the Huaxia Theater Troupe of San Francisco has recently debuted a new play called The Ballad of Hua Mulan. This is their first play. The thing that makes it so controversial is that the lead part is cast with an actual Chinese-Californian woman, as the entire cast has also been cast with Chinese-Californians. Asian-Californians have never been the starring role in a play, much less the entire main cast. The controversy also seems to have made it even more popular. Opening night was 15 January, and it was a sold out smash hit. More performances are planned, and there are also talks for Huaxia to preform the play elsewhere in California.

[Nuxipal]

Group App

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Group Name: The Alliance to Restore the Emperor
Alternative Names: Imperial Pretenders; the Tozama; Ishinshishi; the Shinnoke
Group Symbol/Flag: The Chrysanthemum
Group Type: Imperial Restoration/Rebellion
Group Leader[s]: The Sessho and Kampaku [Prince Taisei and Imperial Retainer Minamoto no Genji]; The 4 Imperial Regents [Katsura-no-miya Sumihito, Arisugawa-no-miya Yoruhito, Fushimi-no-miya Hironaru, Kan'in-no-miya Hatsuhito]The 4 Noble Lords [Lord Minamoto no Genji, Lord Taira no Hei, Lord Fujiwara no Oshu, and Lord Tachibana no Kusunoki]; and The Southern Lords [Lord Shimazu and Lord Mori]

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Group Location: Japan; centered around Taiwan, Southern Korea, and Southern Japan (Kyushu, Shikoku, and Western Honshu)
Group Population: 775,000
Group Security Population: 70,000
History of Group:With historic distraught with the Shogun, tensions sparked a high against the Shogunate, as the Shogun himself claimed ascendancy to the Japanese Imperial throne. A disrespect and unthinkable motion for Japan, the Southern clans who saw the most grievances upon them, revolted against the government, leading them, a retainer of Katsura-no-miya who unified divided Imperial loyalists factions, aligning themselves to restore the Imperial line with one of the princes from the Shinnoke, and in succession, their own power as well. Outside their group, they've had widespread popularity with traditionalist and other noble lords.
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#BloodIron2

Hmm, perhaps I could use this group to my advantage somehow.. after all, Japan doesn't need Korea.

[Danceria]

I don't know how to write it, but the Huaxia Theater Troupe of San Francisco has recently debuted a new play called The Ballad of Hua Mulan. This is their first play. The thing that makes it so controversial is that the lead part is cast with an actual Chinese-Californian woman, as the entire cast has also been cast with Chinese-Californians. Asian-Californians have never been the starring role in a play, much less the entire main cast. The controversy also seems to have made it even more popular. Opening night was 15 January, and it was a sold out smash hit. More performances are planned, and there are also talks for Huaxia to preform the play elsewhere in California.

Perhaps the two princes could jump the border just to see it.

[Holoska]

Varra may have just potentially ruined the RP. I'll let him explain himself.

You know, aside from trying to micromanage die welt.

[Republic Of Varra]

Varra may have just potentially ruined the RP. I'll let him explain himself.

You know, aside from trying to micromanage die welt.

Don't worry. That person won't join anytime soon.

[Republic Of Varra]

Any other RP premises to be brought up in the near future?

[Kazarogkai]

@Newne Carriebean7

Just trying to keep things clear. With a population your size you are planning on raising an army of 70,000 men that quickly? I'm just trying to make sure you understand the amount of time and material to do as such and I can assure you it takes a lot of both. For a decent soldier of the time it would take months to properly recruit, train, equip, and mobilize to the front lines a proper force worth putting to the field. The only reason I can personally do as such so quickly(1-2 weeks) is because my nation practices a form of prussian style universal conscription. This entails not only conscripting during war but also during peace using said time to build up a ready trained reserve of soldiers who can be quickly raised if need be. This is not a practice for the weary for it has a tendency to be quite unpopular, the general narrative being "why do we need to conscript in times of peace?" and there is a pretty good cultural reason why anglo nations usually do not have it. Thankfully as a result of historical inertia said cultural unwillingness has been properly bred out from the georgian psyche owing in part to their typical bunker mentality derived from being surrounded by enemies(kinda like Israel). Being historically in a near constant state of war or readiness we have had the experience and time to perfect the system to the best of are abilities. Mixed that in with nearly half are national budget being spent on the military, are extensive infrastructure(railroads, canals,forts, communications), and highly centralized and well trained command staff(general staff) all are necessary in making this happen. My country is in effect the prussian or sparta of the west, which is a fact they pride themselves on. This comes at great cost though.

I'm not trying to put you down, I'm actually trying to help you in a way revealing to you all that would be necessary for one to be able to do such things. In order for my nation to achieve these things certain conditions have to be present and sacrifices made to bring these things about. I don't know perfectly well how your military functions, for all I know your nation isn't much different than mine when in that regard, never the less unless you plan on sending in rather poorly trained, organized, and equipped troops barely worth the time spent to raise them, this is what is necessary.

On the otherhand when it comes to your discussion on the building of battleships, your post more or less hit the nail. It takes a real long time to bring such things to fruition. Nevertheless I think you may be over estimating how long that time is. I do not know perfectly well the port situation in your nation but to give an example the actual dreadnought itself only took about a year to make in total, though it required an entire prior year of designing and planning before that could occur. Though yes we are talking about the premier naval power of the day here but still, I doubt a simple pre-dreadnought battleship should take more than maybe 2 years through and through to get done. 4.5 years as you seem to estimate seems to be a little long.

One thing I wish to compliment you on is your RP skill. From what I can see the narrative you create with your characters and the way you bring them to life makes your posts a joy to read. They all just seem to pop so nicely, plus you create decent setting to go along with it so that is nice. Bravo my friend . I am saddened to say the least that I cannot do the same. Ive personally always been more of a setting rather than characters type of writer if you understand my drift.

Also another thing to keep in mind is there is a reason for the 5% peacetime rule, past that point you start having... issues so to say dealing with lack of able bodied workers in the economy. Outside large scale war one should try not to venture past that point and even then only with great thought and preparation beforehand. My country has a military that size simply for the fact is well... my population is roughly 6 times yours hence we can support such forces with little issue. Just putting it out there.

[Kerbodine]

Any other RP premises to be brought up in the near future?

I'm thinking I'll keep the steel market fluctuating, much like it did in 1890s America. This led to price waves across the world in steel and iron, until eventually US Steel was formed, stabilizing prices and leading to the US becoming, by far, the top steel producer of the world (just about all from my region, bwhahahahahahaaaaa).

Oh, an American/Superiorite cultural resurgence with new styles is going to start in St. Louis within the next couple years, or perhaps sooner; a few fellows named Scott Joplin, Frank Lloyd Wright, and Louis Tiffany will see to that.

I'm curious to explore the relationships between the American nations; for example, I think New England and myself have OK relations, but we were apparently attacked by them during the Wars of Dissolution, and they SEEM to be going all socialist, so we'll see... And I have an admittedly small border with Texas, which seems to be aggressively expanding... Keep those forts in top order, boys, it's a dangerous world out there...

[Holoska]

Californian culture is borne out of a gold rush idea of "anyone can make it big if they try". Basically, the American Californian Dream. As such, there's always this idea that anyone can move up in society, regardless of how hard that avenue may actually be. There's also a very independent sort of pioneer spirit that leads many Californians to more readily accept ideas such as gender equality (at least in terms of the ballot box), socialism (note the difference to communism), and free and open democratic processes.

[Newne Carriebean7]

your points are reasonable, and I hear what you are telling me, or nudging me on the shoulder with.
I see that it would take months to conscript a force nearly size of the confederate army at Gettysburg, the south could do it, but I see that I would have some difficulties, the sheer cost in building food, clothes or ammunition factories just to construct the soldiers equipment for that large of a force would be slightly out of our price range.
also in the Texan army how would we deal with the natives? we could fully integrate them in the army to give us more of a strain on the Texan economy with their pay,(although it will be lower than the average Texan.)
if we added the slaves, the people in congress who are slave owners with cushy kickbacks of a "Labor and the people" trust would derail the bill before it entered the Texan Congress,them drumming upa fear of slave rebellions and trumpeting that the black man is not ready from freedom. if that did not work, they'd either gridlock the meeting or kick the pro slavery enlistment forces out of Congress entirely during the roll call vote.
I also might have several protesters who are against the war on moral grounds hide in a church when a pro war mob attacks them, or something like that, the details aren't fully planned out in my mind, hell, I might just do something else.

[Atletico Bilbao]

Did the OP see my app?

[The V O I D]

I asked for everyone to repost their apps so I can review missed group/nation apps.

If your nation is on the accepted list, PLEASE post your app in the archive.

[Kazarogkai]

@Newne Carriebean7

The confederacy to be fair was as I touched upon in a state of total war readiness. Aka nearly the entire population was involved in the war effort in some way or another, the entire military as a whole comprised something like 10% of the total population. But a thing to keep in mind is that the confederacy took years before they could reach the numbers and field an army like that seen on gettysburg and even then it took a lot out of them. If you look at the confederacy in those last years of fighting it was most certainly not a pretty picture. A heavily centralized government which put shame to the idea of a confederacy, a collapsing currency and market economy, starvation and bread riots. Not a pretty picture at all.

Just to say I wish to apologize though. Now that I look back at the numbers I am sorry to say I misinterpreted things a little. I remember reading your population as 1 million when in reality it is 1.7 million as such your 70k men is still viable though you are starting to reach the tipping point, so be careful.

When it comes to natives I suggest you can use them as auxiliary units, similar to the roman model. In exchange for certain privileges or maybe even citizenship(second class) they provide service in the army as scouts and maybe cavalry units. In georgia at the very least in the beginning that is more or less what we did with them, in exchange for autonomy and maintaining much of their lands we ask are allied natives to provide military service in the form of indian scouts and swear loyalty unto the Commonwealth. Just so you know the trail of tears more or less still kinda occurred in this world, but in this case it was enacted against rebellious and pro-british natives over the course of decades rather than years starting from independence onward. Loyal natives remained relatively unscathed though.

I see that you make mention of my forces having arrived on the border. Mind you that is not as of yet the case, as of now I have given the order for the aforementioned General Ilos to raise up a corps, but he is only as of now mobilizing that force they haven't yet reached their destination. That will be the focus of my next post which should come tonight. Sorry for the confusion.

@Holoska

In terms of Georgian culture the best way I can describe it would be broody and stoic with a strong hint of collectivism. The Georgians are stone faced lot filled with cynicism and deeply reliant on their faith both in their government and whatever religion that they have, if they have any, to get through their day. They are a people suffering in a way from a rather extreme case of bunker syndrome in a constant state of anxiety and worry over the future that may lay before them and their children. Being surrounded by enemies who may invade at any moment and living in constant fear of one day receiving a knock on the door from men clad in black. It takes its toll. Georgians generally eschew the idea that with hard work you can achieve anything knowing full well that it is not how hard you work but how well you do something that matters. No one cares that you put your heart and soul into something and most certainly no one gives a damn about your dreams. All that matters is how good you did at the task at hand. Work smarter not harder as the saying goes. On the otherhand Georgians see no shame in taking a helping hand, everyone will eventually fall down and will need some help to get back up. The only shame that could arise from this is from refusing to get back up and end up being a freeloader.

Georgians care less about making it big and more about stability. Staying in the same place in society is not something that is viewed with shame instead it is viewed in a more positive light as evidence that you have found your proper place within the greater fabric of things. As a whole the Georgian view on happiness is rather than being associated with pleasure instead is associated with fulfillment in a way. It's only something that is meant to be achieved in old age. It is the feeling one gets at the end of a fulfilling life from where you can look back upon and say that you did a good job. Life on the otherhand is meant to be like a cup of tea; simmered and meant best for contemplation. This is arguable one of the reasons why Georgians are actually pretty good poets, though not so hot inventors. An interesting facet of Georgian culture is there strong love for education which they view as not only a great investment for the future but also something that is necessary for one to properly acclimate into general society and find one's overall place. Hence the support for and application of compulsory public education whose origins date back to the colonial era.

[Newne Carriebean7]

@Newne Carriebean7

The confederacy to be fair was as I touched upon in a state of total war readiness. Aka nearly the entire population was involved in the war effort in some way or another, the entire military as a whole comprised something like 10% of the total population. But a thing to keep in mind is that the confederacy took years before they could reach the numbers and field an army like that seen on gettysburg and even then it took a lot out of them. If you look at the confederacy in those last years of fighting it was most certainly not a pretty picture. A heavily centralized government which put shame to the idea of a confederacy, a collapsing currency and market economy, starvation and bread riots. Not a pretty picture at all.

Just to say I wish to apologize though. Now that I look back at the numbers I am sorry to say I misinterpreted things a little. I remember reading your population as 1 million when in reality it is 1.7 million as such your 70k men is still viable though you are starting to reach the tipping point, so be careful.

When it comes to natives I suggest you can use them as auxiliary units, similar to the roman model. In exchange for certain privileges or maybe even citizenship(second class) they provide service in the army as scouts and maybe cavalry units. In georgia at the very least in the beginning that is more or less what we did with them, in exchange for autonomy and maintaining much of their lands we ask are allied natives to provide military service in the form of indian scouts and swear loyalty unto the Commonwealth. Just so you know the trail of tears more or less still kinda occurred in this world, but in this case it was enacted against rebellious and pro-british natives over the course of decades rather than years starting from independence onward. Loyal natives remained relatively unscathed though.

I see that you make mention of my forces having arrived on the border. Mind you that is not as of yet the case, as of now I have given the order for the aforementioned General Ilos to raise up a corps, but he is only as of now mobilizing that force they haven't yet reached their destination. That will be the focus of my next post which should come tonight. Sorry for the confusion.

I will use them as scouts, forcibly take them from their homes via gunpoint or asking them nicely,but we may begin to have a sort of higher than slave,lower than white native class with small benifits such as a tiny pension from the texan government,and trade stamps to use as currency with traders that come through the areas. I do understand that the nearly 70,000 total men is a strain, and so we may divide the force in half and send some back to the Californians to gaurd against those nutjobs.

[Holoska]

I will use them as scouts, forcibly take them from their homes via gunpoint or asking them nicely,but we may begin to have a sort of higher than slave,lower than white native class with small benifits such as a tiny pension from the texan government,and trade stamps to use as currency with traders that come through the areas. I do understand that the nearly 70,000 total men is a strain, and so we may divide the force in half and send some back to the Californians to gaurd against those nutjobs.

I'm already initiating a new plot where several Cherokee are fleeing to California.

[Newne Carriebean7]

I will use them as scouts, forcibly take them from their homes via gunpoint or asking them nicely,but we may begin to have a sort of higher than slave,lower than white native class with small benifits such as a tiny pension from the texan government,and trade stamps to use as currency with traders that come through the areas. I do understand that the nearly 70,000 total men is a strain, and so we may divide the force in half and send some back to the Californians to gaurd against those nutjobs.

I'm already initiating a new plot where several Cherokee are fleeing to California.

what? they don't like texas? time for the Indians to be forced into the army on a larger scale willfully serve their country!
I'm also thinking of holding elections between Frost and some other candidate,can't decide who though...

[Holoska]

I'm already initiating a new plot where several Cherokee are fleeing to California.

what? they don't like texas? time for the Indians to be forced into the army on a larger scale willfully serve their country!
I'm also thinking of holding elections between Frost and some other candidate,can't decide who though...

What about the son of Sam Houston you mentioned?

[Newne Carriebean7]

what? they don't like texas? time for the Indians to be forced into the army on a larger scale willfully serve their country!
I'm also thinking of holding elections between Frost and some other candidate,can't decide who though...

What about the son of Sam Houston you mentioned?

oh yeah, that guy!
he'll be a candidate for the Texan Revolutionary Front of Democracy, or TRFD. it'll be Frost against Sam Huston's son, It'll be a snap election, but I dunno if I should have a debate over a fencing match or a horse race?

[Holoska]

What about the son of Sam Houston you mentioned?

oh yeah, that guy!
he'll be a candidate for the Texan Revolutionary Front of Democracy, or TRFD. it'll be Frost against Sam Huston's son, It'll be a snap election, but I dunno if I should have a debate over a fencing match or a horse race?

Ah, Texas.

[Newne Carriebean7]

oh yeah, that guy!
he'll be a candidate for the Texan Revolutionary Front of Democracy, or TRFD. it'll be Frost against Sam Huston's son, It'll be a snap election, but I dunno if I should have a debate over a fencing match or a horse race?

Ah, Texas.

crazy since 1845!

[Holoska]

Ah, Texas.

crazy since 1845!

I'd say since 1821.

[Newne Carriebean7]

crazy since 1845!

I'd say since 1821.

mother mexico raised us poorly,then uncle sam wanted custody over us, there was a big marridge dispute, but uncle sam got custody of the child.

[Holoska]

I'd say since 1821.

mother mexico raised us poorly,then uncle sam wanted custody over us, there was a big marridge dispute, but uncle sam got custody of the child.

And then Texas had a rebellious teenage phase and moved out of the house at 15. They've been emotionally stunted ever since. At least, in our timeline.

[Newne Carriebean7]

mother mexico raised us poorly,then uncle sam wanted custody over us, there was a big marridge dispute, but uncle sam got custody of the child.

And then Texas had a rebellious teenage phase and moved out of the house at 15. They've been emotionally stunted ever since. At least, in our timeline.

they eventually moved back into the house when the other 10 friends he was hanging out with all tried tobacco and got dragged back by uncle sam into the house.

[Danceria]

And then Texas had a rebellious teenage phase and moved out of the house at 15. They've been emotionally stunted ever since. At least, in our timeline.

they eventually moved back into the house when the other 10 friends he was hanging out with all tried tobacco and got dragged back by uncle sam into the house.

And momma Mexico decides to get chummy with either Texas's twin brother/new squeez, California.

Speaking of, I'm wondering if Salvador should demonstrate how energetically danger-seeking he is..

By jumping the border and spending a few days incognito in California, with his brother.