Blood and Iron [OOC/ALT-HISTORY/OPEN/REBOOT]

[Holoska]

When you say Francisco Villa, do you mean José Arámbula?

AKA Pancho Villa? All the same.

I just figured it would be ironic/fitting that those on opposing sides of the Upteenth Mexican Revolution would be in Congress. Porfirio's Bismark, with authoritarian-leaning pragmatism and shrewdness, Villa's the moderate and open minded master of synergy and peacemaking, Zapata's the noisy and impressionable libertarian idealist.

Indeed. I once saw an alternate history where after the CSA purchased Sonora and Chihuahua to get access to the sea in 1881, a man named Doroteo Arango later ran for President of the Confederacy on the Radical Liberal party ticket.

[Danceria]

AKA Pancho Villa? All the same.

I just figured it would be ironic/fitting that those on opposing sides of the Upteenth Mexican Revolution would be in Congress. Porfirio's Bismark, with authoritarian-leaning pragmatism and shrewdness, Villa's the moderate and open minded master of synergy and peacemaking, Zapata's the noisy and impressionable libertarian idealist.

Indeed. I once saw an alternate history where after the CSA purchased Sonora and Chihuahua to get access to the sea in 1881, a man named Doroteo Arango later ran for President of the Confederacy on the Radical Liberal party ticket.

Dorito? I read "Dorito" don't you think that slipped by me.

Porfirio's Federalist, Villa's the Synergist (Moderation is key), and Zapata's a radical Populist.

[Newne Carriebean7]

and Texas will be holding elections between Andrew Jackson Houston ( the son of sam huston) and Samuel Julian Frost, who's bidding for a second term, such fun!

[Holoska]

Posted. I have officially claimed Nikola Tesla.

[Newne Carriebean7]

Posted. I have officially claimed Nikola Tesla.

shit. time to get things moving against the Louisianans, and to potentially send off some colonial ships all the while an unstable man is with my mayor of Huston that is meeting with the Californian leader, I'll just want him to quickly move there, the train ride, while fun, doesn't really move the whole diplomatic situation around...

[Holoska]

Posted. I have officially claimed Nikola Tesla.

shit. time to get things moving against the Louisianans, and to potentially send off some colonial ships all the while an unstable man is with my mayor of Huston that is meeting with the Californian leader, I'll just want him to quickly move there, the train ride, while fun, doesn't really move the whole diplomatic situation around...

Okay. The next post can be you meeting with President Waterman.

[Newne Carriebean7]

YAY!
*diplomacy intensifies*

[Military Lands of the Scottish People]

I have the idea that Japan declares war on Spain to take control of the Philippines. Members of the Global Pact of Nations can pick sides or remain neutral, based on whether or not they feel a fight all the way in East Asia is worth it.

Filipino are the master race.

Actually, I will just pull my good old Napoleonic guerrilla tactics and decimate anyone that lands. They might get near Manila but other than that, I am sure I could allocate resources to properly fend them off.

[Kerbodine]

Port District of Toronto, Dominion of Canada
Commonwealth of Great Britain and the Low Countries
February 10th, 1891 -- Morning
Somerset was a Toronto native himself, and his dedication to his native Canada has allowed him to command a naval flotilla detachment for the Canadian's Atlantic defense. One of the more-firm voices across the Atlantic for re-armament, David had a vested interest in ensuring this meeting went smoothly. Garnering assurance on the part of Superior State for a favorable trade deal for steel could mean a hefty investment in to naval expansion--a desperately-needed bulwark for the Commonwealth's increasingly-stretched navy.
The sudden flash of a match briefly illuminated the pale morning haze. David swore under his breath. "It's a strike."

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Greetings Commonwealth (from Superior),
The meeting has started, Feb. 22nd 1891.
I just wanted to figure out how we do this rather important meeting. I've decided it's taking place February 22nd, with a couple Superiorite financial ministers and a military representative attending. Some background (TL;DRs included):
-The Midwest was the center of American, indeed practically WAS the, steel production industry; by 1890 in our timeline, the Commonwealth, Germany, and Superior would all be vying for the top of the world steel industry, though American steel production would (by the turn of the century) grow to be dominant until the 1970s. This is probably similar in our timeline due to simple geography; the Midwest was prime for limestone, iron, and coal production, and had a large industrial base, all necessary for steel, while Britain (your only large steel-producing region) was actually rather limited in potential future growth. (TL;DR Superior will continue to grow as world steel producer, Europe in general probably stays roughly the same as now)
-We think selling is always a good thing. Most battleships of our current era would've used at LEAST a dozen thousand tons of high quality steel; the British battleships built in the current time were the Royal Sovereigns, about 16,000 tons (probably mostly steel) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Sov ... battleship ; While this may sound like a LOT, and it is (especially for high-quality steel, which we can provide), it's not much compared to what a skyscraper or large bridge would use. An order for several ships, including smaller ships, would be what would tip it into a 'major deal'. (TL;DR you'd need to build at least a few ships for it to be a big deal)
-Superior is looking for a big deal (TL;DR we like big deals)
-As payment, we would both be willing to accept straight-up money (could be kept quiet) or military naval designs (could be kept even quieter; specifically want data on armor and aiming gunnery, our civilian ships and general artillery skills are at your level... A less quiet option for partial [though probably not full] payment would be to provide us with a full modern battleship and teach us how to use it); Superior's navy is rather small right now, after all, and we may just want to start building one. (TL;DR We'll take cash and/or blueprints as payment; we would also maybe be willing to take one of your fancy new battleships as a large chunk of payment...)

Anyway, as for how to RP this, I think that here (OOC) we should decide what the outcome is and who's at the meeting, and then I'd be willing to write up a brief in-context version of the meeting if you'd like.

[Republic Of Varra]

Get ready folks. It's time I make a post in the IC.

[Liberalist bispak pecun]

I have the idea that Japan declares war on Spain to take control of the Philippines. Members of the Global Pact of Nations can pick sides or remain neutral, based on whether or not they feel a fight all the way in East Asia is worth it.

Filipino are the master race.

Actually, I will just pull my good old Napoleonic guerrilla tactics and decimate anyone that lands. They might get near Manila but other than that, I am sure I could allocate resources to properly fend them off.

I think Filipinos are gay and i support it because i am a liberal, we as liberals don't have boundaries on gayness because we don't support religion and government.

[Military Lands of the Scottish People]

Let me announce this; The King is interested in the French Civil Welfare system, to a extent, however the people will never embrace Marxism, other than the rural populations in Venezuela who feel that the government doesn't care for them. I plan on, however, improving Venezuelan Infrastructure along with the east coast of South America with this plan; http://imgur.com/gallery/o7gsR

[Military Lands of the Scottish People]

Filipino are the master race.

Actually, I will just pull my good old Napoleonic guerrilla tactics and decimate anyone that lands. They might get near Manila but other than that, I am sure I could allocate resources to properly fend them off.

I think Filipinos are gay and i support it because i am a liberal, we as liberals don't have boundaries on gayness because we don't support religion and government.

lmao what

[The New Byzantine II]

It's beautiful isn't it.

Yep. And that means we, of course, have to find a way to up the anty for world war two.

Hence my proposal that the French go from Commie to Nazi for WW2 after being maybe-crushed in our WW1.

If France gets defeated in this alternate WWI, then socialism would fell because it's a "failure" although in the French politics, it will be divided into nationalists, liberals, or social democrats. If France won, then you will all be subjugated into Marxist ideology and the teachings of Karl Marx would prove to be a "success".

[The New Byzantine II]

Filipino are the master race.

Actually, I will just pull my good old Napoleonic guerrilla tactics and decimate anyone that lands. They might get near Manila but other than that, I am sure I could allocate resources to properly fend them off.

I think Filipinos are gay and i support it because i am a liberal, we as liberals don't have boundaries on gayness because we don't support religion and government.

Your statement is nonsense and your statement has no connection in this RP.

[The New Byzantine II]

I have the idea that Japan declares war on Spain to take control of the Philippines. Members of the Global Pact of Nations can pick sides or remain neutral, based on whether or not they feel a fight all the way in East Asia is worth it.

Filipino are the master race.

Actually, I will just pull my good old Napoleonic guerrilla tactics and decimate anyone that lands. They might get near Manila but other than that, I am sure I could allocate resources to properly fend them off.

At this point, Katipunan is already created at this time. It is a "secret society" but the truth is they are highly organized rebels surpassing Dagohoy's rebel organization in Bohol, and they'll rise to popularity, mostly the people that resides National Capital Region of the Philippines (doesn't include Filipino Mestizos, rich etc.)

[The Valyria Empire]

I think Filipinos are gay and i support it because i am a liberal, we as liberals don't have boundaries on gayness because we don't support religion and government.

Your statement is nonsense and your statement has no connection in this RP.

You fell for the bait, sunny. Anyway, I noticed that like 74% of the IC posts are those dang Americans. Guess I'll need to make a post.

[Military Lands of the Scottish People]

I forgot, did we resolve the extreme populations?

[Republic Of Varra]

I now declare the air race is on! Start your propellers folks, because we are about to go into some turbulence!

[The New Byzantine II]

I now declare the air race is on! Start your propellers folks, because we are about to go into some turbulence!

That's a bit early to do aerial race. Airplanes hadn't been created until 1901.

[Kazarogkai]

Something to keep in mind for you Superior is that well.. you don't have a sea coast. As such a battleship wouldn't exactly be all that useful to you and if you id get access to one it would be confined to those lakes of your since well a battleship is a little too big to properly go down a river even the likes of the Mississippi. I imagine Monitors, which were excellent brown water craft, would be far more useful in your case. Just putting it out there.

[Republic Of Varra]

I now declare the air race is on! Start your propellers folks, because we are about to go into some turbulence!

That's a bit early to do aerial race. Airplanes hadn't been created until 1901.

Zeppelin's are being built right now, and aircraft designs are already being looked into in some parts of the world. As I said in an earlier IC post, Germany is trying to keep up with tech advancements. So, they will jump on the opportunity before many. The thing is, everything is mostly designing and it will take a few more years for everything to, "take off" as it were.

So I would say 1897-1902 before Zeppelins and planes will actually be viable for flight. Which, granted is a long ways off, but with the right push, this could be made earlier than our timeline.

[Garwall]

Something to keep in mind for you Superior is that well.. you don't have a sea coast. As such a battleship wouldn't exactly be all that useful to you and if you id get access to one it would be confined to those lakes of your since well a battleship is a little too big to properly go down a river even the likes of the Mississippi. I imagine Monitors, which were excellent brown water craft, would be far more useful in your case. Just putting it out there.

There are waterways that connect the great lakes to the Atlantic. So theoretically Superior state could possess a naval fleet and with permission from me, deploy their fleets into the Atlantic.

[Holoska]

Something to keep in mind for you Superior is that well.. you don't have a sea coast. As such a battleship wouldn't exactly be all that useful to you and if you id get access to one it would be confined to those lakes of your since well a battleship is a little too big to properly go down a river even the likes of the Mississippi. I imagine Monitors, which were excellent brown water craft, would be far more useful in your case. Just putting it out there.

There are waterways that connect the great lakes to the Atlantic. So theoretically Superior state could possess a naval fleet and with permission from me, deploy their fleets into the Atlantic.

Although I think the Welland Canal will have to be negotiated over with the Anglo-Dutch, since the canal's on the Ontario side of the border and they might not like warships going through it. Not only this, but I think the canal's gonna need some expansion if it's going to be carrying battleships.

[Holoska]

Also, a thing. Given the rate at which this RP is going, it should be noted that construction of big projects like canals will take a few years in the RP, so quite a long time. Just a fair warning.