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Kazarogkai
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Moralistic Democracy

Postby Kazarogkai » Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:04 pm

Veroxia wrote:
Kazarogkai wrote:
Austria is apart of a unified Germany, you can still have hungary if you want. Also most of south america still seems to be open. Finally I believe we have already had a guy who claimed the remainder of the american south(upper south), though he hasn't posted an app or comment in some time. That could be interesting, an american confederacy that went socialist in the later years of the 19th century as a result of political upheaval and economic turmoil with the poor whites replacing the old plantocracy with communes owned by said poor whites making use of the tools of their liberation: the people's negros. Could be interesting. Dark, but interesting.

Mhm, I like the sound of it. Perhaps, this nation would have their own 'five-year plans', industrializing heavily and arming itself against other nations that oppress the proletarian worker. ( Meaning, the rest of the splintered U.S. and possibly other states.)


I'm imagining based off the fact that it didn't really have a good manufacturing base to begin with I could see some type of great leap forward thing happening. Could be the cause of some interesting events, political instability and all that.
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The Valyria Empire
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Postby The Valyria Empire » Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:10 pm

The New Byzantine II wrote:
Danceria wrote:Because communism is cancer, and must be destroyed at all costs.

France is not a communist but a radical Socialist based on the teachings of Marxism. Although there would be a big change in France soon as more other Marxist ideologies/other Socialist Ideologies will come out like Marxist revisionism, Orthodox Marxism, Social democracy, etc.

The only good red is dead.

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Veroxia
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Postby Veroxia » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:43 pm

The Valyria Empire wrote:
The New Byzantine II wrote:France is not a communist but a radical Socialist based on the teachings of Marxism. Although there would be a big change in France soon as more other Marxist ideologies/other Socialist Ideologies will come out like Marxist revisionism, Orthodox Marxism, Social democracy, etc.

The only good red is dead.

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Postby Holoska » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:52 pm

Californian Socialism as is currently being brought into formation is closer to Social Democracy than Communism. It's a much franker form of socialism that departs from the romanticism of classic socialism, the idea that all can be brought into harmony through the actions of the people, and instead operates on the principle that socialist politics must be fought for within a political system rather than the people overthrowing the bourgeois of a society.

In other words, Californian invented Scandinavian social democracy instead of Scandinavia. Yay me.

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The V O I D
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Postby The V O I D » Wed Oct 12, 2016 1:56 pm

Holoska wrote:Californian Socialism as is currently being brought into formation is closer to Social Democracy than Communism. It's a much franker form of socialism that departs from the romanticism of classic socialism, the idea that all can be brought into harmony through the actions of the people, and instead operates on the principle that socialist politics must be fought for within a political system rather than the people overthrowing the bourgeois of a society.

In other words, Californian invented Scandinavian social democracy instead of Scandinavia. Yay me.


gg no re.

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Newne Carriebean7
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Postby Newne Carriebean7 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:07 pm

Kazarogkai wrote:
Newne Carriebean7 wrote: well shit... what else could the man be interested in?
automobiles?
electric carriages (trolleys)?
the mayor's home cooking?
I
m running out of Ideas here mate.


The fact that he is so enamored with airships, a highly experimental and dangerous technology, could be a show of how unhinged he is. Aka in his mind the reason they refused to help fund him was because of corruption, but in reality they didn't care to do it because it was so well insane. So you can still have him interested in them if you're willing to go with that arc.

that's good! he is a mad man, I'm modeling him after Guiteau. he also wanted little children to build the airships to save on labor, and because his father beat him as a child, he would like to beat little children as well as a sort of " I my life is hell now I'm going to make your life hell." kind of angle.
Krugeristan wrote:This is Carrie you're referring to. I'm not going to expect him to do something sane anytime soon. He can take something as simple as a sandwich, and make me never look at sandwiches with a straight face ever again.

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Postby The Valyria Empire » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:42 pm

Kazarogkai wrote:
Newne Carriebean7 wrote: well shit... what else could the man be interested in?
automobiles?
electric carridges (trolleys)?
the mayor's home cooking?
I
m running out of Ideas here mate.


The fact that he is so enamored with airships, a highly experimental and dangerous technology, could be a show of how unhinged he is. Aka in his mind the reason they refused to help fund him was because of corruption, but in reality they didn't care to do it because it was so well insane. So you can still have him interested in them if you're willing to go with that arc.

Hmm, sounds....familiar

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Republic Of Varra
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Postby Republic Of Varra » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:24 pm

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Postby The V O I D » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:39 pm

Republic Of Varra wrote:Posted in the IC


y u no invite scandinavia.

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Postby Republic Of Varra » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:40 pm

The V O I D wrote:
Republic Of Varra wrote:Posted in the IC


y u no invite scandinavia.


Sorry, You want in the alliance? I can change it if you like.
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Postby The V O I D » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:41 pm

Republic Of Varra wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
y u no invite scandinavia.


Sorry, You want in the alliance? I can change it if you like.


Yes, GREATER EUROPEAN ALLIANCE! Europe against communism! :p

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Newne Carriebean7
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Postby Newne Carriebean7 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:43 pm

The V O I D wrote:
Republic Of Varra wrote:
Sorry, You want in the alliance? I can change it if you like.


Yes, GREATER EUROPEAN ALLIANCE! Europe against communism! :p

please no colonization, I need my ass to be saved against Mexico if they decided to anexar los tejanos, so to say...
Krugeristan wrote:This is Carrie you're referring to. I'm not going to expect him to do something sane anytime soon. He can take something as simple as a sandwich, and make me never look at sandwiches with a straight face ever again.

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Postby The V O I D » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:44 pm

Newne Carriebean7 wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
Yes, GREATER EUROPEAN ALLIANCE! Europe against communism! :p

please no colonization, I need my ass to be saved against Mexico if they decided to anexar los tejanos, so to say...


No worries, friend.

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Newne Carriebean7
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Postby Newne Carriebean7 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:45 pm

The V O I D wrote:
Newne Carriebean7 wrote: please no colonization, I need my ass to be saved against Mexico if they decided to anexar los tejanos, so to say...


No worries, friend.

great! TIME TO MAKE TEXAS GREAT AGAIN!
Krugeristan wrote:This is Carrie you're referring to. I'm not going to expect him to do something sane anytime soon. He can take something as simple as a sandwich, and make me never look at sandwiches with a straight face ever again.

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Postby Republic Of Varra » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:48 pm

The V O I D wrote:
Newne Carriebean7 wrote: please no colonization, I need my ass to be saved against Mexico if they decided to anexar los tejanos, so to say...


No worries, friend.


At the conference, I will probably have my leader discuss the Hamburg thing, but besides that Scandinavia would be great.
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Postby Republic Of Varra » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:49 pm

Newne Carriebean7 wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
No worries, friend.

great! TIME TO MAKE TEXAS GREAT AGAIN!


You're allies with Spain yes? Well, Spain is allied with me, and I am allied with Mexico. Be careful who you attack, because it could prove deadly.
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Postby The V O I D » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:50 pm

Republic Of Varra wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
No worries, friend.


At the conference, I will probably have my leader discuss the Hamburg thing, but besides that Scandinavia would be great.


Sounds good.

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Newne Carriebean7
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Postby Newne Carriebean7 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:51 pm

Republic Of Varra wrote:
Newne Carriebean7 wrote: great! TIME TO MAKE TEXAS GREAT AGAIN!


You're allies with Spain yes? Well, Spain is allied with me, and I am allied with Mexico. Be careful who you attack, because it could prove deadly.

so I'm allied with Spain and I'm attacking Louisiana, such fun! time to convert these natives to jesus and enslave the ones that don't believe send missionaries to inform the savages about the ways of the lord.
Krugeristan wrote:This is Carrie you're referring to. I'm not going to expect him to do something sane anytime soon. He can take something as simple as a sandwich, and make me never look at sandwiches with a straight face ever again.

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Greater Liverpool
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Postby Greater Liverpool » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:52 pm

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Formal/Full Nation Name: The United Republic of America
Informal/Simple Nation Name: U.R.A
National Flag:
Image
Government Type: Unitary Republic
Head of State: Elwin Elvis Belcher
Head of Government: David James Leonardo Constantine Russell


Map: http://i.imgur.com/t1YhXi5.jpg
Population: 10,370,000
Military Population: 26,000
History of Nation:
1866-The End of the Union and the Birth of the Republic

When the United States was destroyed by constant war it left many people with no Government to speak of. The once provinces of Dakota now became lawless land where no order was seen by a government. Local power was the only thing keeping a some what stable condition on the lands of Washington, Montana, North and South Dakota. These small government used what ever power to keep control. This however changed soon as a man with a dream returned from war to his home, Issac Towner once in charge of the Union's 117th Infantry regiment one made up from soldiers from Montana returned to his small farm in Paradise valley he saw what had become of his homeland. Many veterans returned home with similar feelings. Issac met with his officers that he severed with and declared that with the death of the union something must be done to save America from tyranny and if not that at the very least their home. The officers agreed with Issac, they tour off the U.S badges that they had sown on their uniforms and replaced it a new U.R.A badge the Federal Republic of America. They made contact with everyone in the regiment and tried to form a militia to take control of the local governments. On the 17th of September 1886, Issac Towner and his now 1st Republican Guard regiment marched into Helena the capital of the Montana local Government, they took control of town hall before Towner dispatched different Battalions to different parts of the state. After two weeks the 1st Republican guard was in control of much of Montana, it was then that Issac Towner established the Federal Republic of America officially and proclaimed it in Montana. Soon he sent dispatches to the surrounding local governments that where not under control of Superior and the California, it simply read "The Union is dead, you follow it and lead to your own death or you join the United Republic." The message was simple surrender or be crushed. With the 1st Republic Guard the only fighting force big enough to actually win fights many people surrendered to the Federal Republic. By 1867 much of America's former North-Western lands where now under the control of Issac Towner and the United Republic.

1867-1869- The Nursing of the Republic

January 1867 was the year of the Republic's founding officially. It was when the constitution was first created and the first election was held. The Constitution of the United Republic was pretty different from that of the United States. Issac Towner realized that the problem with the old Republic was that states held too much power and as such he using his power de facto leader of the Republic to abolish the states system that had been in place and replace it with much smaller distracts of the Republic. These districts could not have different laws, could not raise any force of any kind that can be used solely for the district but most importantly all decisions made by the Central Republic could not be overturned not matter what the case. The "New Republic of America" as it was being called also changed a lot of laws such as the right to bear arms was destroyed by the new Constitution and the equal treatment of all men before the republic and the law became one of the most important factors in the new Constitution. During this time was new political parties being established throughout the new Republic with 4 attracting the most support from people, they where The Socialist Party, The Liberal Republican party, The Eagle league and The National Democratic party. The results of the first election was the Eagle League won by a clear majority which gave them control of the house and the seat of President. The Eagle League main goals where to establish a better Republic and a stronger republic both Military power and economic power. They spent a lot of money on developing a new massive port in Seattle which they later renamed to Nova Venice, this would enable the Republic to have a center of Trade in which they can export and import goods from around world. This paid off as they where now able to offer a direct route with the Far east and enabled them fast trade with Chinese, Japanese and Indian empires.

1870- A Golden dawn
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Newne Carriebean7
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Postby Newne Carriebean7 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:55 pm

Greater Liverpool wrote:
Nation App


Formal/Full Nation Name: The United Republic of America
Informal/Simple Nation Name: U.R.A
National Flag:
(Image)
Government Type: Unitary Republic
Head of State: Elwin Elvis Belcher
Head of Government: David James Leonardo Constantine Russell


Map: http://i.imgur.com/t1YhXi5.jpg
Population: 10,370,000
Military Population: 26,000
History of Nation:
1866-The End of the Union and the Birth of the Republic

When the United States was destroyed by constant war it left many people with no Government to speak of. The once provinces of Dakota now became lawless land where no order was seen by a government. Local power was the only thing keeping a some what stable condition on the lands of Washington, Montana, North and South Dakota. These small government used what ever power to keep control. This however changed soon as a man with a dream returned from war to his home, Issac Towner once in charge of the Union's 117th Infantry regiment one made up from soldiers from Montana returned to his small farm in Paradise valley he saw what had become of his homeland. Many veterans returned home with similar feelings. Issac met with his officers that he severed with and declared that with the death of the union something must be done to save America from tyranny and if not that at the very least their home. The officers agreed with Issac, they tour off the U.S badges that they had sown on their uniforms and replaced it a new U.R.A badge the Federal Republic of America. They made contact with everyone in the regiment and tried to form a militia to take control of the local governments. On the 17th of September 1886, Issac Towner and his now 1st Republican Guard regiment marched into Helena the capital of the Montana local Government, they took control of town hall before Towner dispatched different Battalions to different parts of the state. After two weeks the 1st Republican guard was in control of much of Montana, it was then that Issac Towner established the Federal Republic of America officially and proclaimed it in Montana. Soon he sent dispatches to the surrounding local governments that where not under control of Superior and the California, it simply read "The Union is dead, you follow it and lead to your own death or you join the United Republic." The message was simple surrender or be crushed. With the 1st Republic Guard the only fighting force big enough to actually win fights many people surrendered to the Federal Republic. By 1867 much of America's former North-Western lands where now under the control of Issac Towner and the United Republic.

1867-1869- The Nursing of the Republic

January 1867 was the year of the Republic's founding officially. It was when the constitution was first created and the first election was held. The Constitution of the United Republic was pretty different from that of the United States. Issac Towner realized that the problem with the old Republic was that states held too much power and as such he using his power de facto leader of the Republic to abolish the states system that had been in place and replace it with much smaller distracts of the Republic. These districts could not have different laws, could not raise any force of any kind that can be used solely for the district but most importantly all decisions made by the Central Republic could not be overturned not matter what the case. The "New Republic of America" as it was being called also changed a lot of laws such as the right to bear arms was destroyed by the new Constitution and the equal treatment of all men before the republic and the law became one of the most important factors in the new Constitution. During this time was new political parties being established throughout the new Republic with 4 attracting the most support from people, they where The Socialist Party, The Liberal Republican party, The Eagle league and The National Democratic party. The results of the first election was the Eagle League won by a clear majority which gave them control of the house and the seat of President. The Eagle League main goals where to establish a better Republic and a stronger republic both Military power and economic power. They spent a lot of money on developing a new massive port in Seattle which they later renamed to Nova Venice, this would enable the Republic to have a center of Trade in which they can export and import goods from around world. This paid off as they where now able to offer a direct route with the Far east and enabled them fast trade with Chinese, Japanese and Indian empires.

1870- A Golden dawn
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Krugeristan wrote:This is Carrie you're referring to. I'm not going to expect him to do something sane anytime soon. He can take something as simple as a sandwich, and make me never look at sandwiches with a straight face ever again.

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The Valyria Empire
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Postby The Valyria Empire » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:59 pm

Republic Of Varra wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
y u no invite scandinavia.


Sorry, You want in the alliance? I can change it if you like.

Guess Byzantium will just hang out in the east, it's not like we wanted to be allies to anything...

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Postby Danceria » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:08 pm

The Valyria Empire wrote:
Republic Of Varra wrote:
Sorry, You want in the alliance? I can change it if you like.

Guess Byzantium will just hang out in the east, it's not like we wanted to be allies to anything...

It's okay old Rome-senpai. We are into Rome of the Americas!
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Postby La Cancion de Guerra » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:19 pm

Because why not, Can I reserve Bolivia / if it's not available Argentina? (Or maybe both but that could be too much?)
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Postby Danceria » Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:24 pm

La Cancion de Guerra wrote:Because why not, Can I reserve Bolivia / if it's not available Argentina? (Or maybe both but that could be too much?)

Argentina, Chile, Peru, Bolivia and Ecuador are open. Venezuela and Colombia are controlled by Spain, and you will be supported by your friendly neighborhood Mexican Empire.
One true Patron Saint of Sinners and Satire
It is my sole purpose in life to offend you and get you to think about your convictions due to this
“You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.” - Sir Winston Churchill, Prime Minister of Great Britain.
Obligatory Quotes below
“Love looks not with the eyes, but with the mind; and therefore is winged Cupid painted blind.” - William Shakespeare.

“Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest.” - Mark Twain

“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.” - Thomas Jefferson

“The real man smiles in trouble, gathers strength from distress, and grows brave by reflection.” - Thomas Paine
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The V O I D
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Postby The V O I D » Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:06 pm

Gonna post IC tomorrow and review the new app tomorrow as well. Tired right now.

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