Blood and Iron [OOC/ALT-HISTORY/OPEN/REBOOT]

[Danceria]

Because communism is cancer, and must be destroyed at all costs.

Actually, communism isn't that bad. We have a tiny teeny weeny Socialist Party in the Federal Parliament, after all.

> "Socialist Republic"

> Little tiny teeny weeny Party

[Garwall]

Because communism is cancer, and must be destroyed at all costs.

Actually, communism isn't that bad. We have a tiny teeny weeny Socialist Party in the Federal Parliament, after all.

I wonder how Communism will end up being tackled IOTL--I would imagine the Socialist parties in the various democracies of Europe and America will determine that through the 1890s. By 1910 I'm sure we'll have a better idea which nations are going to end up in the Commie bloc.

For everyone's information, the Liberals/Social-Democrats are the ruling coalition for the Anglo-Dutch Union, so they're quite amenable to Communist governments. Assuming the Commie governments aren't hostile and looking to overthrow the Commonwealth's democratic system of law, they'd be treated much like any other gov't at the moment.

[Auchterland]

Posted a response to Iberia and a letter to Mexico.

[The V O I D]

Actually, communism isn't that bad. We have a tiny teeny weeny Socialist Party in the Federal Parliament, after all.

> "Socialist Republic"

> Little tiny teeny weeny Party

That's France. I'm Scandinavia, remember?

Actually, communism isn't that bad. We have a tiny teeny weeny Socialist Party in the Federal Parliament, after all.

I wonder how Communism will end up being tackled IOTL--I would imagine the Socialist parties in the various democracies of Europe and America will determine that through the 1890s. By 1910 I'm sure we'll have a better idea which nations are going to end up in the Commie bloc.

For everyone's information, the Liberals/Social-Democrats are the ruling coalition for the Anglo-Dutch Union, so they're quite amenable to Communist governments. Assuming the Commie governments aren't hostile and looking to overthrow the Commonwealth's democratic system of law, they'd be treated much like any other gov't at the moment.

Interesting...

[Greater Liverpool]

Errrr no Rebel groups?

[The V O I D]

Errrr no Rebel groups?

I haven't gotten around to accepting group apps yet. I'm kind of looking forward to just finishing up with the map of the world in terms of countries before I move onto groups.

[Grothmogia]

I have a kind of cool concept for a SA union of Chile and Argentina that formed after the War of the Confederation, but only the map right now. Are you guys ok with that, or should I use my fallback plan of Romania?

[The Valyria Empire]

Why are there so many groups in the BE? Holy crap.

Honestly, I'm willing to work with Iberia, Germania and Italy if it means destroying communism. Have to defend that Imperial order against those damn Reds.

[Greater Liverpool]

Errrr no Rebel groups?

I haven't gotten around to accepting group apps yet. I'm kind of looking forward to just finishing up with the map of the world in terms of countries before I move onto groups.

Well most of the world is filled now up but ok I will be here waiting

[Kazarogkai]

*Laughs as I'm planning to replicate my victory in the World's Fair/Olympics, something remarkably similar ages ago in my first nation.*

Also, what's the status of Simon Bolivar? He was a contemporary (IRL) of Don Agustín II, and possible father in law.

Emm well based off my countries history Simon Bolivar probably is long dead. Georgia during the first half of the 19th century was quite active internationally being a pretty major center of arms manufacturing and to a degree a military powerhouse who desired to export their "revolution" across the entire new world. As such they were a pretty major participant in the latin american wars of independence fighting across the pond but most notably in Haiti, Central America, and Gran Colombia. As such they would have been a pretty heavy financier/armor of The Liberator and his struggles in south america. When those entities fell apart is the point when Georgia started to become disillusioned and recede from world affairs. Considering the fact that the area covered by gran colombia is still under the Iberian boot I presume said collapse probably was in concert with the man's death sadly and the collapse of organized resistance to said Iberian rule.

[The V O I D]

Why are there so many groups in the BE? Holy crap.

Honestly, I'm willing to work with Iberia, Germania and Italy if it means destroying communism. Have to defend that Imperial order against those damn Reds.

World War One in this timeline is gonna be the Communards vs the Allied Powers.

Germany might get an opportunity to be the good guys. That means WW2, if it has fascists or nazis, might be Frenchmen.

Neo-Napoleon style Blitzkrieg, eh?

[Kazarogkai]

I wonder why Iberia and Germany is looking at the "friendly" France when in fact the Byzantine Empire is the real threat to Europe.

Because communism is cancer, and must be destroyed at all costs.

Plus it is a pretty massive threat to the current order of things namely Classical liberal republics and constitutional monarchies with strong reactionary streaks and a predisposition towards organized religion.

[Auchterland]

Errrr no Rebel groups?

I haven't gotten around to accepting group apps yet. I'm kind of looking forward to just finishing up with the map of the world in terms of countries before I move onto groups.

We have quite a few groups that have been waiting for a long time now, and who knows how much it will take for all of the world to be filled up. Some areas probably will never see anyone applying for them, as most deem them too uninteresting. I suggest that you do not wait too long, but it's your decision.

I have a kind of cool concept for a SA union of Chile and Argentina that formed after the War of the Confederation, but only the map right now. Are you guys ok with that, or should I use my fallback plan of Romania?

I think that's cool? Come on, S. America needs some life.
Plus, I think somebody reserved Romania already. Unless that was you.

[Veroxia]

Tagging...the revolution must spread forth to all working class of the world!

[The Valyria Empire]

Why are there so many groups in the BE? Holy crap.

Honestly, I'm willing to work with Iberia, Germania and Italy if it means destroying communism. Have to defend that Imperial order against those damn Reds.

World War One in this timeline is gonna be the Communards vs the Allied Powers.

Germany might get an opportunity to be the good guys. That means WW2, if it has fascists or nazis, might be Frenchmen.

Neo-Napoleon style Blitzkrieg, eh?

That sounds amazing. I hope the Big Blue Blob doesn't steamroll everyone.

[The V O I D]

World War One in this timeline is gonna be the Communards vs the Allied Powers.

Germany might get an opportunity to be the good guys. That means WW2, if it has fascists or nazis, might be Frenchmen.

Neo-Napoleon style Blitzkrieg, eh?

That sounds amazing. I hope the Big Blue Blob doesn't steamroll everyone.

Heh. It's going to be interesting, for sure; but based on how things are going, that's the way the WW1 of this timeline is looking towards.

[The V O I D]

Tagging...the revolution must spread forth to all working class of the world!

I bet you're gonna be a commie Austro-Hungary/Ukraine.

Either that or a commie country in the Americas.

[Veroxia]

Tagging...the revolution must spread forth to all working class of the world!

I bet you're gonna be a commie Austro-Hungary/Ukraine.

Either that or a commie country in the Americas.

How did you know?!

Can't decide which,though; a syndicalist state in portions of New Jersey and Pennsylvania or one in Austria-Hungary.

[The V O I D]

I bet you're gonna be a commie Austro-Hungary/Ukraine.

Either that or a commie country in the Americas.

How did you know?!

Can't decide which,though; a syndicalist state in portions of New Jersey and Pennsylvania or one in Austria-Hungary.

I mean, according to the New Englander App, the US Remnant owns what remains of Pennsylvania, New Jersey and into Maryland I think as well; not sure beyond that.

[The Valyria Empire]

I bet you're gonna be a commie Austro-Hungary/Ukraine.

Either that or a commie country in the Americas.

How did you know?!

Can't decide which,though; a syndicalist state in portions of New Jersey and Pennsylvania or one in Austria-Hungary.

Romans aren't going to be happy about having Communist neighbors.

[Kazarogkai]

I bet you're gonna be a commie Austro-Hungary/Ukraine.

Either that or a commie country in the Americas.

How did you know?!

Can't decide which,though; a syndicalist state in portions of New Jersey and Pennsylvania or one in Austria-Hungary.

Austria is apart of a unified Germany, you can still have hungary if you want. Also most of south america still seems to be open. Finally I believe we have already had a guy who claimed the remainder of the american south(upper south), though he hasn't posted an app or comment in some time. That could be interesting, an american confederacy that went socialist in the later years of the 19th century as a result of political upheaval and economic turmoil with the poor whites replacing the old plantocracy with communes owned by said poor whites making use of the tools of their liberation: the people's negros. Could be interesting. Dark, but interesting.

[Veroxia]

How did you know?!

Can't decide which,though; a syndicalist state in portions of New Jersey and Pennsylvania or one in Austria-Hungary.

Austria is apart of a unified Germany, you can still have hungary if you want. Also most of south america still seems to be open. Finally I believe we have already had a guy who claimed the remainder of the american south(upper south), though he hasn't posted an app or comment in some time. That could be interesting, an american confederacy that went socialist in the later years of the 19th century as a result of political upheaval and economic turmoil with the poor whites replacing the old plantocracy with communes owned by said poor whites making use of the tools of their liberation: the people's negros. Could be interesting. Dark, but interesting.

Mhm, I like the sound of it. Perhaps, this nation would have their own 'five-year plans', industrializing heavily and arming itself against other nations that oppress the proletarian worker. ( Meaning, the rest of the splintered U.S. and possibly other states.)

[Narintia]

How did you know?!

Can't decide which,though; a syndicalist state in portions of New Jersey and Pennsylvania or one in Austria-Hungary.

I mean, according to the New Englander App, the US Remnant owns what remains of Pennsylvania, New Jersey and into Maryland I think as well; not sure beyond that.

Oooooo, a syndicalist Pennsylvania vs a Socialist New England
I might edit my app just to see that, the American front of WW1/2 will be very interesting

[The New Byzantine II]

I wonder why Iberia and Germany is looking at the "friendly" France when in fact the Byzantine Empire is the real threat to Europe.

Because communism is cancer, and must be destroyed at all costs.

France is not a communist but a radical Socialist based on the teachings of Marxism. Although there would be a big change in France soon as more other Marxist ideologies/other Socialist Ideologies will come out like Marxist revisionism, Orthodox Marxism, Social democracy, etc.

[Kerbodine]

Because communism is cancer, and must be destroyed at all costs.

Plus it is a pretty massive threat to the current order of things namely Classical liberal republics and constitutional monarchies with strong reactionary streaks and a predisposition towards organized religion.

Goodness, Superior is weird; a mix of a somewhat liberal republic (more conservative than the United States was) and a marginally conservative social system, but with complete freedom of religion. I'm certain I won't side with any Communists- the likelihood of a commie revolution in my nation is minuscule, there just wouldn't be enough support- but perhaps we'll want to stay neutral and sell steel, copper, grains, and industrial goods to both sides?... Superiorite artillery will be some of the best by the turn of the century...