Blood and Iron [OOC/ALT-HISTORY/OPEN/REBOOT]

[Holoska]

Be prepared.

[Nuxipal]

I was gonna try and calculate it into Chinese calendar.. but there is no easy conversion website.. so we won't be doing that x.x

[Uragarr]

How are we supposed to regard unclaimed white land, as long as no one claims it? Is it meant to be inhabited by indigenous tribes if it's in Africa or America?

[Trotza]

How are we supposed to regard unclaimed white land, as long as no one claims it? Is it meant to be inhabited by indigenous tribes if it's in Africa or America?

I don't see any reason why not.

[Republic Of Varra]

Uh, likely not. I don't see why Germany would go to war over territory that, in this timeline, it hasn't owned at all, or at least, in a very long time.

Seriously, you guys, calm yourselves. I don't need to deal with bullshit right now, okay? Let's just try to do our opening posts and start the RP and have some fun. Not play, "but it's muh land!" even though this is alt-history and not everyone has exactly the same land as in OTL.

Okay, I have tried to be very calm and relaxed about this, but I see you don't see the severity of you just randomly taking Hamburg.

Allow me to explain (+mini rant) I will keep it as respectable as I can.

Hamburg. The second largest city in all of Germany. The largest port city in Germany, and you decide to just snatch it up for no other reason. Do the rules not apply to you? For I was yelled at for being historically inaccurate with my borders, while you just apparently get to keep a historically German city state. Does this seem fair to you? Taking the second largest city of another player, "Because I can". With no other reason what so ever.

Would you be fine if someone simply claimed your second largest, and one of most important cities, in your nation because they could? No, you would be upset, and deny that from happening. But not in this case. Why exactly?

Also yes, I gladly would go to war with that territory, because the people there are German not Danish.

If you truly want some historical accuracy, but then do that, than what's the point of even having historical accuracy? Why not have Russia own Tokyo? Why not have Madrid controlled by France? It keeps going.

I am honestly kind of upset that I was yelled for being historically inaccurate, while you get to do whatever you like. I'm also upset that you just label this as 'bullshit' when this is a very serious issue.

Rant done. Now I shall make my IC.

[Holoska]

Uh, likely not. I don't see why Germany would go to war over territory that, in this timeline, it hasn't owned at all, or at least, in a very long time.

Seriously, you guys, calm yourselves. I don't need to deal with bullshit right now, okay? Let's just try to do our opening posts and start the RP and have some fun. Not play, "but it's muh land!" even though this is alt-history and not everyone has exactly the same land as in OTL.

Okay, I have tried to be very calm and relaxed about this, but I see you don't see the severity of you just randomly taking Hamburg.

Allow me to explain (+mini rant) I will keep it as respectable as I can.

Hamburg. The second largest city in all of Germany. The largest port city in Germany, and you decide to just snatch it up for no other reason. Do the rules not apply to you? For I was yelled at for being historically inaccurate with my borders, while you just apparently get to keep a historically German city state. Does this seem fair to you? Taking the second largest city of another player, "Because I can". With no other reason what so ever.

Would you be fine if someone simply claimed your second largest, and one of most important cities, in your nation because they could? No, you would be upset, and deny that from happening. But not in this case. Why exactly?

Also yes, I gladly would go to war with that territory, because the people there are German not Danish.

If you truly want some historical accuracy, but then do that, than what's the point of even having historical accuracy? Why not have Russia own Tokyo? Why not have Madrid controlled by France? It keeps going.

I am honestly kind of upset that I was yelled for being historically inaccurate, while you get to do whatever you like. I'm also upset that you just label this as 'bullshit' when this is a very serious issue.

Rant done. Now I shall make my IC.

You were all warned.

[Republic Of Varra]

And no, I do not mean to be rude. I mean this as a respectful criticism, and formal complaint.

[Kazarogkai]

I was gonna try and calculate it into Chinese calendar.. but there is no easy conversion website.. so we won't be doing that x.x

I was planning on doing something similar in the Georgia Calendar but whatever, too much brain heart. All I could say is that the current year in their calendar is Year 113, with the year 1777(Gregorian) as year 0 in the Current Era. Yea I know a little weird, they did a french and made a new calendar but kept it rather than abandoning it. Probably has something to do with the fact that the french had 10 day work weeks with 9 days of work and 1 day of rest. In contrast the Georgians got a 5 day week with 4 days of work(3 private, 1 public) and 1 day of rest. Some may call them lazy, they just consider themselves lovers of leisure. They got no booze or smokes so they gotta make up for it somehow and they do it with god awful amounts of tea and lots of good sleep.

[Holoska]

I was gonna try and calculate it into Chinese calendar.. but there is no easy conversion website.. so we won't be doing that x.x

http://www.prokerala.com/general/calend ... verter.php

[Nuxipal]

I was gonna try and calculate it into Chinese calendar.. but there is no easy conversion website.. so we won't be doing that x.x

http://www.prokerala.com/general/calend ... verter.php

I'll start using that when we get to 1901, as it does not permit me to go to 1891.

[The Valyria Empire]

I'll try to have a post up tomorrow. Haven't decided if I want Constantine to be middle aged or more mid twenties.

[Holoska]

I'll try to have a post up tomorrow. Haven't decided if I want Constantine to be middle aged or more mid twenties.

Given the era, middle-aged might be more suitable.

[Military Lands of the Scottish People]

Y'all talking about wars and shit. Y'all going to regret it when I spread SOCIALISM! PROLETARIATS OF THE WORLD UNITE!

Too late. Mayor Clemens is already making "Californian Socialism" a thing. We beat you to the punch.

also i hope you enjoy being dual fisted by spain and germany

i have no idea what you are talking about


Does that byzantine dude actually want to reform the Roman empire or was he just joking.

[Holoska]

Too late. Mayor Clemens is already making "Californian Socialism" a thing. We beat you to the punch.

also i hope you enjoy being dual fisted by spain and germany

i have no idea what you are talking about


Does that byzantine dude actually want to reform the Roman empire or was he just joking.

Knowing NationStates he probably meant it. Good luck, I guess.

[RNT]

Sorry for taking so long I'll have my post up tonight.

[The Valyria Empire]

Too late. Mayor Clemens is already making "Californian Socialism" a thing. We beat you to the punch.

also i hope you enjoy being dual fisted by spain and germany

i have no idea what you are talking about


Does that byzantine dude actually want to reform the Roman empire or was he just joking.

Romans never joke about this kind of stuff. However the only nations that own land that is part of our rightful borders is Germania, England, Italy, France and Iberia. However Germania holds little land we want and England isn't that important.

Really Italy is the thing Romans desire the most since it's their homeland.

[Garwall]

I had an opening post yesterday, but my computer decided to reboot and I lost it--so my post will be forthcoming.

[The New Byzantine II]

i have no idea what you are talking about


Does that byzantine dude actually want to reform the Roman empire or was he just joking.

Romans never joke about this kind of stuff. However the only nations that own land that is part of our rightful borders is Germania, England, Italy, France and Iberia. However Germania holds little land we want and England isn't that important.

Really Italy is the thing Romans desire the most since it's their homeland.

Although the Byzantine Empire is the continuation of the "Roman Empire". Most of the Europeans saw the Byzantine Empire as the Empire of the Greeks thru out the history and it would be funny if the Empire of the Greeks would reform the Roman Empire and conquer powerful European nations. If that happened, the European nations would ganged up against the Byzantines and boom, dead.

[Danceria]

Romans never joke about this kind of stuff. However the only nations that own land that is part of our rightful borders is Germania, England, Italy, France and Iberia. However Germania holds little land we want and England isn't that important.

Really Italy is the thing Romans desire the most since it's their homeland.

Although the Byzantine Empire is the continuation of the "Roman Empire". Most of the Europeans saw the Byzantine Empire as the Empire of the Greeks thru out the history and it would be funny if the Empire of the Greeks would reform the Roman Empire and conquer powerful European nations. If that happened, the European nations would ganged up against the Byzantines and boom, dead.

Meanwhile, Salvador's dealing with a recent appendix operation, and the Mexican Navy and Congress are wondering what to do with the rest of Europe, the Americas, and the Caribbean.

[The New Byzantine II]

Although the Byzantine Empire is the continuation of the "Roman Empire". Most of the Europeans saw the Byzantine Empire as the Empire of the Greeks thru out the history and it would be funny if the Empire of the Greeks would reform the Roman Empire and conquer powerful European nations. If that happened, the European nations would ganged up against the Byzantines and boom, dead.

Meanwhile, Salvador's dealing with a recent appendix operation, and the Mexican Navy and Congress are wondering what to do with the rest of Europe, the Americas, and the Caribbean.

What's the connection of this statement to the Byzantine Empire and Mexico? Lol.

[Danceria]

Meanwhile, Salvador's dealing with a recent appendix operation, and the Mexican Navy and Congress are wondering what to do with the rest of Europe, the Americas, and the Caribbean.

What's the connection of this statement to the Byzantine Empire and Mexico? Lol.

It was my half brained way of saying "> Implying I give a shit on this side of the hemisphere"

[The V O I D]

Uh, likely not. I don't see why Germany would go to war over territory that, in this timeline, it hasn't owned at all, or at least, in a very long time.

Seriously, you guys, calm yourselves. I don't need to deal with bullshit right now, okay? Let's just try to do our opening posts and start the RP and have some fun. Not play, "but it's muh land!" even though this is alt-history and not everyone has exactly the same land as in OTL.

Okay, I have tried to be very calm and relaxed about this, but I see you don't see the severity of you just randomly taking Hamburg.

Allow me to explain (+mini rant) I will keep it as respectable as I can.

Hamburg. The second largest city in all of Germany. The largest port city in Germany, and you decide to just snatch it up for no other reason. Do the rules not apply to you? For I was yelled at for being historically inaccurate with my borders, while you just apparently get to keep a historically German city state. Does this seem fair to you? Taking the second largest city of another player, "Because I can". With no other reason what so ever.

Would you be fine if someone simply claimed your second largest, and one of most important cities, in your nation because they could? No, you would be upset, and deny that from happening. But not in this case. Why exactly?

Also yes, I gladly would go to war with that territory, because the people there are German not Danish.

If you truly want some historical accuracy, but then do that, than what's the point of even having historical accuracy? Why not have Russia own Tokyo? Why not have Madrid controlled by France? It keeps going.

I am honestly kind of upset that I was yelled for being historically inaccurate, while you get to do whatever you like. I'm also upset that you just label this as 'bullshit' when this is a very serious issue.

Rant done. Now I shall make my IC.

Then I suppose then since Australia was historically a British colony, I should give it to Britain instead of Germany?

Listen, I'm not going to have a war in the IC start right at the beginning of the RP, nor am I going to go to war for a stupid reason. I don't mind if you try to negotiate for the territory, but I'm not just going to let a pointless war happen.

Besides, as I said, this timeline is different. Hamburg was German, perhaps, a long time ago in this timeline; but it has been Danish until this point in time. Maybe Germany wants it back, fine; but don't go to war over a stupid reason.

[The Valyria Empire]

What's the connection of this statement to the Byzantine Empire and Mexico? Lol.

It was my half brained way of saying "> Implying I give a shit on this side of the hemisphere"

I think Mexico and Byzantium would be like. "I'LL STAY OUT OF YOUR HEMISPHERE IF YOU STAY OUT OF MINE!"
"K!"

Just shouting at each other from across the pond.

Although the Byzantine Empire is the continuation of the "Roman Empire". Most of the Europeans saw the Byzantine Empire as the Empire of the Greeks thru out the history and it would be funny if the Empire of the Greeks would reform the Roman Empire and conquer powerful European nations. If that happened, the European nations would ganged up against the Byzantines and boom, dead.

Non-aggression pacts and alliances go a long way. We also want to mend the Great Schism still. With Alexandria, Antioch, Jerusalem I hold a lot of holy land. Maybe the Pope would be willing to meet and have a council to mend the schism.

[Esselman]

Since things are OOC tense, Great Russia shall calm them down with first IC post. We're known for such

[Narintia]

It's so funny that a nation that went through a rather bad civil war seems to be bouncing back pretty rapidly

I'm just upset because you stole Samuel Clemens. Anyway, the immigration to my region wasn't only after the wars in Germany, that was maybe only a million; most of them presumably came earlier due to increased instability in the region. There was already mass immigration from Germany during this timeline, and I'm less than doubling it. What exactly is so unreasonable about that?? Slippery slope; the more that leave Germany, the more have reasons to come too.

I crunched the numbers for new england, and I got 16 mil tops.

Real Life (1890)
New York 6,003k
Vermont 332k
New Hampshire 476k
Massachusetts 2,238k
Connecticut 746k
Rhode Island 346k
Maine 661k
TOTAL 10,802k- that's less than 11 million.

And the issue of Canada still stands. I hold to my statement that if I hadn't said compared real life numbers and provided logical explanations that nobody would've noticed my really quite rational increase in population.

source? I used populstat.info for all my shit, where did you get this infomation? also, i counted Pennsylvania and new jersey, those are new englander in all but name.