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Quindonesia
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Postby Quindonesia » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:23 pm

Trotza wrote:Preference question here. Should Ethiopia establish a colony in West Africa or Patagonia? Why, might you be asking yourself? Because imperialism is the name of the game, that's why.

Seeing as I'm trying to reserve as much of Africa as the host will let me reserve, I suggest and hope you go with that Patagonia option

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Trotza
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Postby Trotza » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:28 pm

Quindonesia wrote:
Trotza wrote:Preference question here. Should Ethiopia establish a colony in West Africa or Patagonia? Why, might you be asking yourself? Because imperialism is the name of the game, that's why.

Seeing as I'm trying to reserve as much of Africa as the host will let me reserve, I suggest and hope you go with that Patagonia option

And I suggest you try to keep to have at least one dominant ethnicity/culture/society what have you in whatever you come up with, a nation without an identity has nothing to stand for. Also, you know, giant conglomerates are no fun.
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Holoska
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Postby Holoska » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:29 pm

Trotza wrote:
Quindonesia wrote:Seeing as I'm trying to reserve as much of Africa as the host will let me reserve, I suggest and hope you go with that Patagonia option

And I suggest you try to keep to have at least one dominant ethnicity/culture/society what have you in whatever you come up with, a nation without an identity has nothing to stand for. Also, you know, giant conglomerates are no fun.

Knowing Africa, be very careful when you do that, though... *cough*Rwanda*cough*

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Trotza
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Postby Trotza » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:34 pm

Holoska wrote:
Trotza wrote:And I suggest you try to keep to have at least one dominant ethnicity/culture/society what have you in whatever you come up with, a nation without an identity has nothing to stand for. Also, you know, giant conglomerates are no fun.

Knowing Africa, be very careful when you do that, though... *cough*Rwanda*cough*

I was trying to suggest discreetly that rps with massive empires with no use but to take up land get very old very fast, especially when they encompass incredibly diverse areas of the world.
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Holoska
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Postby Holoska » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:37 pm

Trotza wrote:
Holoska wrote:Knowing Africa, be very careful when you do that, though... *cough*Rwanda*cough*

I was trying to suggest discreetly that rps with massive empires with no use but to take up land get very old very fast, especially when they encompass incredibly diverse areas of the world.

And I was stating outright that nations in Africa have a very hard time trying to be multicultural due to the nature of intercultural relationships in a lot of Africa.

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Republic Of Varra
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Postby Republic Of Varra » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:41 pm

Trotza wrote:
Holoska wrote:Knowing Africa, be very careful when you do that, though... *cough*Rwanda*cough*

I was trying to suggest discreetly that rps with massive empires with no use but to take up land get very old very fast, especially when they encompass incredibly diverse areas of the world.


Patagonia is a little hazy right now, for there was a player earlier who sort of claimed it. I will have to look more into that.

As for west Africa I will be waiting for Quindonesia to TG me a picture of the map he wants.
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Quindonesia
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Postby Quindonesia » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:41 pm

Trotza wrote:
Quindonesia wrote:Seeing as I'm trying to reserve as much of Africa as the host will let me reserve, I suggest and hope you go with that Patagonia option

And I suggest you try to keep to have at least one dominant ethnicity/culture/society what have you in whatever you come up with, a nation without an identity has nothing to stand for. Also, you know, giant conglomerates are no fun.

My goal, if I get accepted, is to do that very thing. A massive meeting of tribes to assess the growing imperialistic and Byzantine threats, form their nation, and decide how it will be run. It may be unpopular among many of the tribes, but the leader is going to try and plunge the nation into industrialism. That solves the culture and society part but for ethnicity, all nations have their struggles, right? That's just what I've thought up though, work in progress and all that

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Trotza
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Postby Trotza » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:46 pm

Quindonesia wrote:
Trotza wrote:And I suggest you try to keep to have at least one dominant ethnicity/culture/society what have you in whatever you come up with, a nation without an identity has nothing to stand for. Also, you know, giant conglomerates are no fun.

My goal, if I get accepted, is to do that very thing. A massive meeting of tribes to assess the growing imperialistic and Byzantine threats, form their nation, and decide how it will be run. It may be unpopular among many of the tribes, but the leader is going to try and plunge the nation into industrialism. That solves the culture and society part but for ethnicity, all nations have their struggles, right? That's just what I've thought up though, work in progress and all that

Perhaps the Ethiopians could help, as a people with a bit of experience of nation building on their own. It would be easier however, if we had say a colony in the region to better make contact, I don't know, maybe Liberia or the Niger Delta perchance?
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Quindonesia
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Postby Quindonesia » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:06 pm

Trotza wrote:
Quindonesia wrote:My goal, if I get accepted, is to do that very thing. A massive meeting of tribes to assess the growing imperialistic and Byzantine threats, form their nation, and decide how it will be run. It may be unpopular among many of the tribes, but the leader is going to try and plunge the nation into industrialism. That solves the culture and society part but for ethnicity, all nations have their struggles, right? That's just what I've thought up though, work in progress and all that

Perhaps the Ethiopians could help, as a people with a bit of experience of nation building on their own. It would be easier however, if we had say a colony in the region to better make contact, I don't know, maybe Liberia or the Niger Delta perchance?

Actually the Germans have already agreed to help, and with much more experience in industrialization, they'd be more useful, no offense

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Trotza
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Postby Trotza » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:10 pm

Quindonesia wrote:
Trotza wrote:Perhaps the Ethiopians could help, as a people with a bit of experience of nation building on their own. It would be easier however, if we had say a colony in the region to better make contact, I don't know, maybe Liberia or the Niger Delta perchance?

Actually the Germans have already agreed to help, and with much more experience in industrialization, they'd be more useful, no offense

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Quindonesia
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Postby Quindonesia » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:12 pm

Trotza wrote:
Quindonesia wrote:Actually the Germans have already agreed to help, and with much more experience in industrialization, they'd be more useful, no offense

Image

But, but, but...

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Trotza
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Postby Trotza » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:13 pm

Quindonesia wrote:
Trotza wrote:(Image)

But, but, but...

No buts, only passive aggressive subversion from here on out.
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Quindonesia
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Postby Quindonesia » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:14 pm

Trotza wrote:
Quindonesia wrote:But, but, but...

No buts, only passive aggressive subversion from here on out.

One of my nation's main propagandas for its citizens...I mean main mottos is that all Africans are brothers and sisters, me no want enemy in Ethiopia

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Republic Of Varra
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Postby Republic Of Varra » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:15 pm

Trotza wrote:
Quindonesia wrote:Actually the Germans have already agreed to help, and with much more experience in industrialization, they'd be more useful, no offense

Image


He's my friend now.

Image

In all seriousness, that was a funny post.
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The Valyria Empire
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Postby The Valyria Empire » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:20 pm

Quindonesia wrote:
Trotza wrote:And I suggest you try to keep to have at least one dominant ethnicity/culture/society what have you in whatever you come up with, a nation without an identity has nothing to stand for. Also, you know, giant conglomerates are no fun.

Byzantine threats

Sweet, now I get to be like the British and mow down Africans with Maxim Guns.

In all seriousness why are the tribes seeing me as a threat? What have I done to the African people? I don't even have any colonies.

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Trotza
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Postby Trotza » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:23 pm

The Valyria Empire wrote:
Quindonesia wrote:Byzantine threats

Sweet, now I get to be like the British and mow down Africans with Maxim Guns.

In all seriousness why are the tribes seeing me as a threat? What have I done to the African people? I don't even have any colonies.

The entire Arab world is a colony if you don't let them be Islamic.

Edit: Also Egypt, just geographically wise.
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Quindonesia
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Postby Quindonesia » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:23 pm

The Valyria Empire wrote:
Quindonesia wrote:Byzantine threats

Sweet, now I get to be like the British and mow down Africans with Maxim Guns.

In all seriousness why are the tribes seeing me as a threat? What have I done to the African people? I don't even have any colonies.

First of all, Egypt. Also, we are aware that you are trying to retake all lands formerly controlled by the Roman Empire, which includes North African lands, but they don't see you to be nearly as important as the imperialist threats from the Anglo-Dutch, Spanish, and Germans

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Holoska
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Postby Holoska » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:37 pm

Quindonesia wrote:
The Valyria Empire wrote:Sweet, now I get to be like the British and mow down Africans with Maxim Guns.

In all seriousness why are the tribes seeing me as a threat? What have I done to the African people? I don't even have any colonies.

First of all, Egypt. Also, we are aware that you are trying to retake all lands formerly controlled by the Roman Empire, which includes North African lands, but they don't see you to be nearly as important as the imperialist threats from the Anglo-Dutch, Spanish, and Germans

Long story short: they are scared of Europe in general.

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The Valyria Empire
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Postby The Valyria Empire » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:57 pm

Holoska wrote:
Quindonesia wrote:First of all, Egypt. Also, we are aware that you are trying to retake all lands formerly controlled by the Roman Empire, which includes North African lands, but they don't see you to be nearly as important as the imperialist threats from the Anglo-Dutch, Spanish, and Germans

Long story short: they are scared of Europe in general.

Well that I can understand but he pointed me out in general. Also

CO-OP ANNOUCEMENT!

To anyone who hasn't been accepted yet please post your apps or link me to them in a TG. I will read over them as soon as I can!

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Quindonesia
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Postby Quindonesia » Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:03 pm

The Valyria Empire wrote:
Holoska wrote:Long story short: they are scared of Europe in general.

Well that I can understand but he pointed me out in general. Also

CO-OP ANNOUCEMENT!

To anyone who hasn't been accepted yet please post your apps or link me to them in a TG. I will read over them as soon as I can!

So I gotta resubmit again? hold on

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Quindonesia
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Postby Quindonesia » Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:12 pm

Quindonesia wrote:
The Valyria Empire wrote:Well that I can understand but he pointed me out in general. Also

CO-OP ANNOUCEMENT!

To anyone who hasn't been accepted yet please post your apps or link me to them in a TG. I will read over them as soon as I can!

So I gotta resubmit again? hold on[/Nevermind. Hooray for misunderstanding words. Also, u were specifically pointed out because im on good relations with Germany, who's on good relations with the other imperialists, so not much threat of actually being conquered. You on the other hand, there is threat of conquering. Also, not to mention, the Muslim minority in my nation

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The New Byzantine II
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Postby The New Byzantine II » Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:41 pm

I guess no one can stop the teachings of Marxism.
Just call me, Byzantine/TNB/Byz because no one really calls me The New Byzantine.
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Holoska
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Postby Holoska » Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:52 pm

The New Byzantine II wrote:I guess no one can stop the teachings of Marxism.

As evidenced by California democratically electing a socialist into the Presidency.

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The Valyria Empire
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Postby The Valyria Empire » Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:53 pm

The New Byzantine II wrote:I guess no one can stop the teachings of Marxism.

I may not be the hero Europe deserves, but I'm the hero it needs. I will stop the socalism!

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Republic Of Varra
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Postby Republic Of Varra » Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:06 pm

The Valyria Empire wrote:
The New Byzantine II wrote:I guess no one can stop the teachings of Marxism.

I may not be the hero Europe deserves, but I'm the hero it needs. I will stop the socalism!


I will stop communism better.
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