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Soviet Chernarus
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Postby Soviet Chernarus » Sun Sep 18, 2016 4:55 pm

Would anyone be willing to support Polish independence against Russia?
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Trotza
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Postby Trotza » Sun Sep 18, 2016 4:57 pm

Reserve the good ole' Sweden-Norway Union for me please.
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Postby Apostolic Hungary » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:35 pm

Nation claimed: The Kingdom of Two Sicilies/Bourbon Rebellion
Ruler: King Francesco II
Nations advantages (Not military): Support of the local population of Southern Italy against the repressive policies of the Savoy Government, Recognition of government by Austria and France
Nations weaknesses (Not military): A rebellion of the lower classes and displaced nobility with little to no middle class support, Governmental organization is in exile in the Papal States
Side of the war and reason: Neutral
National Flag, Naval flag and war flag:
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Government type: Monarchy
National language: Napulitano & Sicilianu
National Religion: Catholicism
Predominant ethnicity: (Southern) Italian
Population (Use wikipedia for help): N/A
Rivals of your nation: the Kingdom of Italy
Goals of your nation:
Establish an independent Naples and Sicily under a restored Bourbon monarchy
Protect the Independence of the Papal States
Become the Leading Power of a coalition of independent Italian states
Chance of a revolution or rebellion: WE ARE THE REBELLION
National anthem: Inno al Re

Military numbers at the start of the war: Up to 85,000 men, but highly disorganized consisting mostly of local brigands under separate leaders and with vary degrees of loyalty.
Leader of the military:General Felix von Schumacher
Pasquale ""Sergente" Romano*
Uniform:
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Armament: Mostly M1854 Lorenz Rifles, with some local outdated Italian rifles, various knives and short sabers.
Strengths: expensive knowledge of local terrain, support of the populace for supplies and recruitment, support from the military of the neighboring Papal States
Weaknesses: No organized military command structure, no major cities controlled, enemies have superior armament
Specialty of your nations army (May have 2): Guerrilla warfare in mountainous regions
Main Military March(es): Il Canto dei Sanfedisti

*(Pending OP approval; irl he died 1863)
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Soviet Chernarus
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Postby Soviet Chernarus » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:45 pm

Nation claimed: The Polish-Lithuanian-Ruthenian Commonwealth, also known as the Commonwealth of Three Nations (represented by the Polish Provisional National Government)
Ruler: Stefan Bobrowski of the National Government's leftist, Red faction
Nations advantages: Popular support (mostly amongst Poland - the rebellion has only seen limited traction/support in the Ukraine and Lithuanian areas)
Nations weaknesses: Disorganized government, lack of foreign support/international recognition
Side of the war and reason: Officially neutral, although it leans more towards Denmark and its allies due to historical animosities with Prussia and Austria (Poland never forgets)
National Flag, Naval flag and war flag:
National flag
There are no official naval or war flags.
Government type: Provisional government
National language: Polish, Ruthenian, Lithuanian
National Religion: Roman Catholic
Predominant ethnicity: Polish
Population (Use wikipedia for help): Roughly 6 million
Rivals of your nation: Russia, Prussia, Austria
Goals of your nation:
Short-term -
  • Secure foreign recognition and support for the uprising.
  • Continue a campaign of guerrilla warfare, in both urban and rural areas. Avoid fighting in open battles with the Russians.
  • Maintain support amongst the peasants, while preventing a White takeover of the Polish provisional government.
    Long-term -
  • Establish the Polish-Lithuanian-Ruthenian Commonwealth (or at the very least, an independent Polish state)
    Chance of a revolution or rebellion: None because we are revolution or a rebellion...However, there is a chance that the uneasy coalition government between the Reds and Whites can dissolve in favor of the Whites.
National anthem: No official national anthem

Military numbers at the start of the war: While the Polish "army" possesses 300,000 fighters, many of them are poorly equipped, poorly trained and disorganized bands of guerrillas and insurgents. Typically, there are no more than 50,000 soldiers on the field at any given time.
Leader of the military: General Romuald Traugutt
Uniform and armament of your nations infantry, cavalry, sailors and artillery:
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The Zouaves of Death are an elite military unit serving alongside the Polish rebellion. Lead by a former French military officer (who is located in the center in this picture)m the Zouaves of Death have established a fearsome reputation amongst their enemies by their fierce, unrelenting bayonet charges.

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A group of Polish soldiers have received new uniforms.

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Polish insurgents, due to a lack of organization and discipline, feature a variety of different uniforms. Numerous constraints prevent a standardized, single uniform from being used within the rebellion.

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Given a severe weapons shortage of rifles and small arms, some soldiers are forced to wield makeshift scythes. These "scythemen" were instrumental in the initial string of attacks against Russian forces, in the early days of the uprising.

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A picture of Polish gendarmerie, who are posing for a photo.

Strengths and weaknesses:
Strengths -
Support from the peasants and in the countryside
Specializes in guerrilla warfare, harassment, skirmishes, etc.
Familiar with the terrain/geography

Weaknesses -
Extremely disorganized; lack of capable officers to lead the troops within the ranks
Lack of discipline; much of the Polish uprising consist of disorganized groups of insurgents or guerrillas, meaning discipline is almost non-existent
Weapons shortages; many men lack rifles and must improvise
Serious problem with morale, especially when facing a superior enemy

Speciality of your nations army: Guerrilla warfare
Main Military March(es): Warszawianka, Boze cos Polske, Gdy narod do boju, Mazurek Dabrowskiego

I can go into more detail if you want, but basically bunch of events that either went wrong or happened different IOTL happen, making the Polish rebellion stronger as a whole. A major shipment of carbines from the west manages to be smuggled into Poland, which IOTL was intercepted. A more assertive Red faction allows it to dominate the provisional government, issuing a series of decrees and reforms that help it gain the support of the peasant masses in Poland. Steven Bobrowski, the current leader, is not killed in a duel and instead becomes the leader of the so-called July Rzad (government).

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Postby Austria and Bavaria » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:55 pm

Grothmogia wrote:Psst... Saxony, you want to help me create a third group to balance out Austria and Prussia? It might be fun...


Nah, I'm sticking with Austria.
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Postby Austria and Bavaria » Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:00 pm

Soviet Chernarus wrote:Would anyone be willing to support Polish independence against Russia?


Maybe, as long as the Whites won out over the Reds, and so long as Poland didn't go after Austria. Would mind getting the Crown of Poland back either. ;)
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Postby Veleaz » Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:15 pm

Nation claimed: Kingdom of Italy
Ruler: Kimg Vittorio Emanuele II
Nations advantages (Not military): Good food, Alps for natural barrier against invasion, organised government
Nations weaknesses (Not military): Relatively new, lacks an Empire, didliked by the Papal States, Bourbon rebellion
Side of the war and reason: Neutral
National Flag, Naval flag and war flag: State Flag or State Flag 2
War Flag

Government type: Constitutional Monarchy
National language: Italian
National Religion: Roman Catholic
Predominant ethnicity: Italian
Population (Use wikipedia for help): 22,341,246
Rivals of your nation: France, Austria-Hungary & the Papal States
Goals of your nation: Fully unite Italy, establish overseas empire, put down Bourbon rebellion
Chance of a revolution or rebellion: Possible, dependent on whether Bourbon rebellion app is accepted
National anthem: Marcia Reale

Military numbers at the start of the war: 180,000
Leader of the military: Vittorio Emmanuel II
Uniform and armament of your nations infantry, cavalry, sailors and artillery:
Pretty, aren't they?
Strenghts and weaknesses (You must have both):
Strengths: Well organised, experienced from Wars of Reunification, well armed and well trained

Weaknesses: Poorly led, unwilling to completely attack Papal States
Speciality of your nations army (May have 2): Mountain and Urban Warfare
Main Military March(es):

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Petrokovia
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Postby Petrokovia » Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:35 pm

Damn, three pages already? Nice.
Anyway, to make it official, now that I'm awake:

Nation claimed: Russian Empire
Ruler: Alexander II
Nations advantages (Not military): Large population allows for more civilian support; Access to Siberia and other territory grants considerable amounts of resources; High population of ethnic Russians are generally highly devoted to their Leader.
Nations weaknesses (Not military): Siberia is a double-edged sword, as it is difficult to access the resources within it; Many in border territories (such as Poland or Finland) do not want to be part of the Russian Empire, and may revolt.
Side of the war and reason: Denmark; A weaker Prussia would allow for Russia's influence to grow, and would help weaken Austria-Hungary; Russia may be able to take land for its empire as well
National Flag, Naval flag and war flag: National; Naval; War
Government type: Absolute Monarchy
National language: Russian w/ Several regional languages
National Religion: Russian Orthodox Christianity
Predominant ethnicity: Russian
Population (Use wikipedia for help): 125,640,021
Rivals of your nation: Austria, Prussia
Goals of your nation: Gain more power, land, and resources; Eventual total Russification of conquered lands (to curb separatism)
Chance of a revolution or rebellion: 100% - There is already a revolt going on, centralized in Poland.
National anthem: God Save the Tsar!

Military numbers at the start of the war: ~1.5 Million
Leader of the military: Alexander II
Uniform and armament of your nations infantry, cavalry, sailors and artillery: Various uniforms; Various types of rifle are used, with research being done for the Mosin Nagant.
Strengths and weaknesses (You must have both): Strengths include a very large fighting force combined with powerful allies; Russians who have volunteered are very patriotic fighters, and will work hard in battle; Russian Artillery groups are very effective, the soldiers running the pieces having good formal training and experience
Weaknesses include being relatively poorly trained and equipped; The lack of a powerful economy impacts the Russian Armed Forces, leading to outdated and failing equipment; A large part of the fighting force is made from conscripts, who are not as enthusiastic in fighting a war
Specialty of your nations army (May have 2): Impressive artillery; Masters of military deception (including camouflage)
Main Military March(es): Now That's What I Call Marches 3!
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Tracian Empire
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Postby Tracian Empire » Sun Sep 18, 2016 10:55 pm

Soviet Chernarus wrote:Would anyone be willing to support Polish independence against Russia?

Well, since unlike in real life, Russia seems too eager to be on Denmark's side, Austria could.
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Postby Sjealand » Sun Sep 18, 2016 11:33 pm

I was really fearing some unreasonable applications with armies exceeding 700.000 or something but to be honest everyone has done a really good job! This rp is gonna be awesome

Apostolic Hungary wrote:-snip-

Accepted

Petrokovia wrote:-snip-

Accepted if you lower your army stats to maybe crimean war levels or spread your army all over the empire. 1.5 million men steamrolling over prussia could be a bit of a problem

Veleaz wrote:-snip-

Accepted

Soviet Chernarus wrote:-snip-

Accepted

Veleaz wrote:Loved the show and the book. Could you reserve Italia for me?

I loved the show too, the battle scenes were amazing and nothing beats Pilou Asbæk in uniform! I really disagree with all the complaining other danes did

The cow and semen scenes were a biit weird though.
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Postby Petrokovia » Sun Sep 18, 2016 11:49 pm

Sjealand wrote:I was really fearing some unreasonable applications with armies exceeding 700.000 or something but to be honest everyone has done a really good job! This rp is gonna be awesome

Petrokovia wrote:-snip-

Accepted if you lower your army stats to maybe crimean war levels or spread your army all over the empire. 1.5 million men steamrolling over prussia could be a bit of a problem

That's the number for the full Russian military, so it would be across the entire empire.
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من خلال الشدائد وسفك الدماء إلى المجد نسير بنور قلوبنا على طريق ميكوتورماه
National Anthem: Our Country!
National Religion: Vesperism

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Postby Veleaz » Sun Sep 18, 2016 11:50 pm

Sjealand wrote:I was really fearing some unreasonable applications with armies exceeding 700.000 or something but to be honest everyone has done a really good job! This rp is gonna be awesome

Apostolic Hungary wrote:-snip-

Accepted

Petrokovia wrote:-snip-

Accepted if you lower your army stats to maybe crimean war levels or spread your army all over the empire. 1.5 million men steamrolling over prussia could be a bit of a problem

Veleaz wrote:-snip-

Accepted

Soviet Chernarus wrote:-snip-

Accepted

Veleaz wrote:Loved the show and the book. Could you reserve Italia for me?

I loved the show too, the battle scenes were amazing and nothing beats Pilou Asbæk in uniform! I really disagree with all the complaining other danes did

The cow and semen scenes were a biit weird though.


The Bourbon Rebellion shall be crushed. Thise scenes were made even more awkward because I was watching the series with my dad, but the battle of Dybbøl was absolutely awesome and an awesome pay off for the build up

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Postby Sjealand » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:14 am

Veleaz wrote:
The Bourbon Rebellion shall be crushed. Thise scenes were made even more awkward because I was watching the series with my dad, but the battle of Dybbøl was absolutely awesome and an awesome pay off for the build up

I was watching it with my family too and we burst out laughing when Pilou began raping the cow

But year Dybbøl was amazing especially the charge of the 8th brigade which is an important moment in danish history

Petrokovia wrote:
Sjealand wrote:I was really fearing some unreasonable applications with armies exceeding 700.000 or something but to be honest everyone has done a really good job! This rp is gonna be awesome


Accepted if you lower your army stats to maybe crimean war levels or spread your army all over the empire. 1.5 million men steamrolling over prussia could be a bit of a problem

That's the number for the full Russian military, so it would be across the entire empire.

If you can promise me that the entire army wont participate in the war from the get-go then i can accept it.
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Postby Veleaz » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:15 am

Sjealand wrote:
Veleaz wrote:
The Bourbon Rebellion shall be crushed. Thise scenes were made even more awkward because I was watching the series with my dad, but the battle of Dybbøl was absolutely awesome and an awesome pay off for the build up

I was watching it with my family too and we burst out laughing when Pilou began raping the cow

But year Dybbøl was amazing especially the charge of the 8th brigade which is an important moment in danish history

That bit was awesome because I hadn't seen something like that from a TV show before, plus it looked awesome as all Hell.

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Postby Sjealand » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:20 am

Veleaz wrote:
Sjealand wrote:I was watching it with my family too and we burst out laughing when Pilou began raping the cow

But year Dybbøl was amazing especially the charge of the 8th brigade which is an important moment in danish history

That bit was awesome because I hadn't seen something like that from a TV show before, plus it looked awesome as all Hell.

Ive personally been at the redoubts and forts of dybbøl (the reconstructed one too) and its really be well recreated. The terror you see the danes feel especially when the Prussians open their first artillery barrage and the trenches they are caught in are very well done

Though i have been considering making my stand at Dannevirke instead if im lucky enough that the german forces attack late enough
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Postby Petrokovia » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:29 am

Sjealand wrote:
Veleaz wrote:
The Bourbon Rebellion shall be crushed. Thise scenes were made even more awkward because I was watching the series with my dad, but the battle of Dybbøl was absolutely awesome and an awesome pay off for the build up

I was watching it with my family too and we burst out laughing when Pilou began raping the cow

But year Dybbøl was amazing especially the charge of the 8th brigade which is an important moment in danish history

Petrokovia wrote:That's the number for the full Russian military, so it would be across the entire empire.

If you can promise me that the entire army wont participate in the war from the get-go then i can accept it.

Trust me, I wasn't going to.

After all, I do need to keep some forces in the East to protect my Kurils. ;)
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National Religion: Vesperism

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Postby Sjealand » Mon Sep 19, 2016 12:34 am

Petrokovia wrote:
Sjealand wrote:I was watching it with my family too and we burst out laughing when Pilou began raping the cow

But year Dybbøl was amazing especially the charge of the 8th brigade which is an important moment in danish history


If you can promise me that the entire army wont participate in the war from the get-go then i can accept it.

Trust me, I wasn't going to.

After all, I do need to keep some forces in the East to protect my Kurils. ;)


Youre obsessed with the Kurils petro :lol2: lets hope enough people dont arrive and pressure me to open the map to other nations ;) you might end up with an early russo-japanese war

But anyways at the start of the RP your Emperors son should already be engaged to Danish princess Dagmar so maybe in the rp that wedding is fulfilled as an alliance (and a promise to keep Øresund open)

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Postby Austria and Bavaria » Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:45 am

Tracian Empire wrote:
Soviet Chernarus wrote:Would anyone be willing to support Polish independence against Russia?

Well, since unlike in real life, Russia seems too eager to be on Denmark's side, Austria could.


I know this is alt-history and all, but I don't really see Russia being too eager for a war with Austria.
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Postby Tracian Empire » Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:48 am

Austria and Bavaria wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:Well, since unlike in real life, Russia seems too eager to be on Denmark's side, Austria could.


I know this is alt-history and all, but I don't really see Russia being too eager for a war with Austria.

Well, in accordance to the Russian player's app, Russia will help Denmark.
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Postby Austria and Bavaria » Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:51 am

Tracian Empire wrote:
Austria and Bavaria wrote:
I know this is alt-history and all, but I don't really see Russia being too eager for a war with Austria.

Well, in accordance to the Russian player's app, Russia will help Denmark.


I know, I saw that, and that's what I was addressing.
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Postby Sjealand » Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:52 am

Tracian Empire wrote:
Austria and Bavaria wrote:
I know this is alt-history and all, but I don't really see Russia being too eager for a war with Austria.

Well, in accordance to the Russian player's app, Russia will help Denmark.

The Tsarevich was engaged to princess Dagmar of Denmark and Prussia or Austria getting acess to Kiel would have been bad. Its not wholly impossible

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Postby Petrokovia » Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:55 am

Sjealand wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:Well, in accordance to the Russian player's app, Russia will help Denmark.

The Tsarevich was engaged to princess Dagmar of Denmark and Prussia or Austria getting acess to Kiel would have been bad. Its not wholly impossible

^This.

But also, Russia's involvement in the beginning will be more discrete, to avoid direct conflict as much as possible.
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من خلال الشدائد وسفك الدماء إلى المجد نسير بنور قلوبنا على طريق ميكوتورماه
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Postby Tracian Empire » Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:56 am

Sjealand wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:Well, in accordance to the Russian player's app, Russia will help Denmark.

The Tsarevich was engaged to princess Dagmar of Denmark and Prussia or Austria getting acess to Kiel would have been bad. Its not wholly impossible

In real life however, Bismark neutralized Russia politically.
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Postby Austria and Bavaria » Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:57 am

Sjealand wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:Well, in accordance to the Russian player's app, Russia will help Denmark.

The Tsarevich was engaged to princess Dagmar of Denmark and Prussia or Austria getting acess to Kiel would have been bad. Its not wholly impossible


I know, but Russia wouldn't want their relations with Austria going down the gutter. Austria was, until the Crimean War, a Russian Ally, and again (later) a Russia ally under the League of Three Emperors. A hostile would damage Russia's strategic situation, since they would no longer have a free hand in their expeditions into the Middle East/Afghanistan/Persia, and would have to contend with a hostile state on their borders for decades to come.
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Postby Tracian Empire » Mon Sep 19, 2016 4:57 am

Petrokovia wrote:
Sjealand wrote:The Tsarevich was engaged to princess Dagmar of Denmark and Prussia or Austria getting acess to Kiel would have been bad. Its not wholly impossible

^This.

But also, Russia's involvement in the beginning will be more discrete, to avoid direct conflict as much as possible.

Well, Austria would certainly dislike any foreign involvement in what is considered to be a business of the German Confederation.
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