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Postby Remnants of Exilvania » Sun Sep 25, 2016 9:34 am

I like that Czechoslovakia had a lot of mountain guns.
Works well with mountaineous Dunkelberge.
And they had an awful lot of Heavy Siege Guns.
Fortifications beware if I come for you!
My problem lies within their Anti-Tank capabilities.
Like, their best AT gun is the Panzerjäger 1 gun. Which was exceptionally good when compared to others of it`s caliber but it`s still just 4,7 cm.
They got some nice AA guns though. Remindding me of the mighty 88.
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Postby Democratic East-Asia » Sun Sep 25, 2016 9:36 am

Remnants of Exilvania wrote:I like that Czechoslovakia had a lot of mountain guns.
Works well with mountaineous Dunkelberge.
And they had an awful lot of Heavy Siege Guns.
Fortifications beware if I come for you!
My problem lies within their Anti-Tank capabilities.
Like, their best AT gun is the Panzerjäger 1 gun. Which was exceptionally good when compared to others of it`s caliber but it`s still just 4,7 cm.
They got some nice AA guns though. Remindding me of the mighty 88.

Not getting through oversized J-30 tank.

I'm this point I'm wondering if Checkpoint Charlie's going to get attacked.

The little battle cars we use are fair game though.

Also, we need those who haven't posted yet to do so!
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Postby Imperial City-States » Sun Sep 25, 2016 9:39 am

Remnants of Exilvania wrote:I like that Czechoslovakia had a lot of mountain guns.
Works well with mountaineous Dunkelberge.
And they had an awful lot of Heavy Siege Guns.
Fortifications beware if I come for you!
My problem lies within their Anti-Tank capabilities.
Like, their best AT gun is the Panzerjäger 1 gun. Which was exceptionally good when compared to others of it`s caliber but it`s still just 4,7 cm.
They got some nice AA guns though. Remindding me of the mighty 88.


Maneuver warfare is where it's at. All hail Lord Guderian
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Postby Democratic East-Asia » Sun Sep 25, 2016 9:46 am

Imperial City-States wrote:
Remnants of Exilvania wrote:I like that Czechoslovakia had a lot of mountain guns.
Works well with mountaineous Dunkelberge.
And they had an awful lot of Heavy Siege Guns.
Fortifications beware if I come for you!
My problem lies within their Anti-Tank capabilities.
Like, their best AT gun is the Panzerjäger 1 gun. Which was exceptionally good when compared to others of it`s caliber but it`s still just 4,7 cm.
They got some nice AA guns though. Remindding me of the mighty 88.


Maneuver warfare is where it's at. All hail Lord Guderian

Tanks for everything.

Will post some border situation.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:20 pm

Just an interesting side question.


Exilvania are your standard rifle and theBren Gun precursor thingy chambered in the same cartridge?
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Postby Remnants of Exilvania » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:30 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:Just an interesting side question.


Exilvania are your standard rifle and theBren Gun precursor thingy chambered in the same cartridge?

Looks like it.
Certainly makes it more deadly at higher ranges.
And I don`t need a separate production line for diferent ammo.

And DEA, you really want a border conflict, don`t ya?
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Postby Imperial City-States » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:33 pm

Remnants of Exilvania wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:Just an interesting side question.


Exilvania are your standard rifle and theBren Gun precursor thingy chambered in the same cartridge?

Looks like it.
Certainly makes it more deadly at higher ranges.
And I don`t need a separate production line for diferent ammo.

And DEA, you really want a border conflict, don`t ya?


During WW2 the British had it set up so that every Riflemen in a section carried two Bren Magazines. That way they had additional ammunition if they needed it, but could also take over using the Bren gun if the operator was killed, and still have magazine ammunition available.
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Postby Democratic East-Asia » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:34 pm

Remnants of Exilvania wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:Just an interesting side question.


Exilvania are your standard rifle and theBren Gun precursor thingy chambered in the same cartridge?

Looks like it.
Certainly makes it more deadly at higher ranges.
And I don`t need a separate production line for diferent ammo.

And DEA, you really want a border conflict, don`t ya?

Need to stir up something. Union soldiers go around doing too many things these days...
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Postby Imperial City-States » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:37 pm

DEA i'm not sure if you have the most blatantly incompetent soldiers around or if they're the most horribly unlucky.

That's ground to start a war right there, and the person attacking wouldn't be in the wrong.
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Postby Democratic East-Asia » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:38 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:DEA i'm not sure if you have the most blatantly incompetent soldiers around or if they're the most horribly unlucky.

That's ground to start a war right there, and the person attacking wouldn't be in the wrong.

We'll make up excuses. I did state that my military has no combat experience. Also, most of the troops around the borders are conscripts.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:40 pm

Democratic East-Asia wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:DEA i'm not sure if you have the most blatantly incompetent soldiers around or if they're the most horribly unlucky.

That's ground to start a war right there, and the person attacking wouldn't be in the wrong.

We'll make up excuses. I did state that my military has no combat experience. Also, most of the troops around the borders are conscripts.


Oh. My bad i must've missed that part.

Well it's not like they'd try and defect considering the border that they're guarding. You'd think that given the hostilities present between the Border post, You'd be far more careful with who you stationed on that border.
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Postby Democratic East-Asia » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:41 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:
Democratic East-Asia wrote:We'll make up excuses. I did state that my military has no combat experience. Also, most of the troops around the borders are conscripts.


Oh. My bad i must've missed that part.

Well it's not like they'd try and defect considering the border that they're guarding. You'd think that given the hostilities present between the Border post, You'd be far more careful with who you stationed on that border.

Why would they defect? The other side is far creepier, and doesn't treat humans well (most of our conscripts are humans). Things have been quiet as of recent, so no one thought of putting the better parts of the military there. As long as the men don't run at first sight, that should be enough.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:43 pm

Democratic East-Asia wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:
Oh. My bad i must've missed that part.

Well it's not like they'd try and defect considering the border that they're guarding. You'd think that given the hostilities present between the Border post, You'd be far more careful with who you stationed on that border.

Why would they defect? The other side is far creepier, and doesn't treat humans well (most of our conscripts are humans). Things have been quiet as of recent, so no one thought of putting the better parts of the military there.


:lol2:

Yeah they're busy parading equipment that's going to end up horribly ineffective.
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Postby Democratic East-Asia » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:44 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:
Democratic East-Asia wrote:Why would they defect? The other side is far creepier, and doesn't treat humans well (most of our conscripts are humans). Things have been quiet as of recent, so no one thought of putting the better parts of the military there.


:lol2:

Yeah they're busy parading equipment that's going to end up horribly ineffective.

"Fire the missile!"

"But sir, we still need 2 hours to set it up!"

"Whatever, just fire it!" *Missile misfires and explodes*
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Postby Imperial City-States » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:01 pm

Democratic East-Asia wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:
:lol2:

Yeah they're busy parading equipment that's going to end up horribly ineffective.

"Fire the missile!"

"But sir, we still need 2 hours to set it up!"

"Whatever, just fire it!" *Missile misfires and explodes*



I was just thinking about all of those 'land ships' you have that are going to sink into the mud to the point where they're no longer mobile.
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Postby Democratic East-Asia » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:07 pm

Imperial City-States wrote:
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I was just thinking about all of those 'land ships' you have that are going to sink into the mud to the point where they're no longer mobile.

Drusslav uses landships too.

Also memes.
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Postby Imperial City-States » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:09 pm

Democratic East-Asia wrote:
Imperial City-States wrote:

Drusslav uses landslips too.

Also memes.


Just saying. With the amount of weight those things have, and the puny amount of distribution to the ground. Unless they're driving on solid rock their weight would cause them to sink into the ground until they were immobile. Not to mention they'd suffer 'King Tiger Syndrome' and be nailed by Airstrikes with impunity.
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Postby Intermountain States » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:19 pm

They'll also be pretty expensive and will use up a lot of manpower to manufacture, even if we're in a fantasy setting. All that resources used into building landships will probably make be better use in making scores of smaller, more conventional weapons of war.

I mean, I think a Tiger costs about 3 Panzer IVs and the Panzer IVs were already effective in dealing with Shermans and T-34s
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Postby Democratic East-Asia » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:21 pm

Intermountain States wrote:They'll also be pretty expensive and will use up a lot of manpower to manufacture, even if we're in a fantasy setting. All that resources used into building landships will probably make be better use in making scores of smaller, more conventional weapons of war.

I mean, I think a Tiger costs about 3 Panzer IVs and the Panzer IVs were already effective in dealing with Shermans and T-34s

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1943: 347900
1944: 264400
1945: 230000

IS-3 (ChKZ)
1945: 267200

T-34 factory 112 (1942): 209700
T-34 factory 112 (1943): 209300
T-34 factory 112 (1944): 174900
T-34 factory 112 (1945): 173000

T-34 factory 183 (1941): 259256
T-34 factory 183 (1942): 165810
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I got this from another forum. It appears IS tanks are roughly 2 times more expensive than T-34s

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:22 pm

Intermountain States wrote:They'll also be pretty expensive and will use up a lot of manpower to manufacture, even if we're in a fantasy setting. All that resources used into building landships will probably make be better use in making scores of smaller, more conventional weapons of war.

I mean, I think a Tiger costs about 3 Panzer IVs and the Panzer IVs were already effective in dealing with Shermans and T-34s

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Postby Imperial City-States » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:28 pm

Well, the apex of WW2 tank design was the Panther and it's variants, once of course all of the teething issues got worked out.
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Where is everyone?
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Postby Imperial City-States » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:48 pm

Democratic East-Asia wrote:Where is everyone?


I'm waiting for other people to post before i flood the channel.
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Democratic East-Asia wrote:Where is everyone?

I'm working on a post now,
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Democratic East-Asia wrote:Where is everyone?

I'm working on a post now,

Yes, yes, very good comrade...
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