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[Luminesa]

I'm gonna use a football metaphor to try and explain, and Ran can back me up: Charlotte is Tony Romo. When she's strong, she's smooth, cold, and tough like a Cadillac, doesn't take anything from nobody and makes life miserable for the other team. When she's weak, it's a disaster. And the weakness, even occasional weakness, is what drags her down. And it drags her down badly.

[Charlia]

When was she intimidated?

By Michael. Multiple times. Then by War's unintended nakedness. If she's the Queen of Heaven, she should not care.

She is the queen of Heaven.


She's also a girl who was sexually abused for years and still has trouble with those memories.



Those categories are not mutually exclusive. If, say, the Queen of England had been sexually abused in her childhood and still had issues with that, I'm sure you wouldn't go up to her and say 'You're the Queen of England, you shouldn't care. You're not allowed to have PTSD. Get over it.' Would you?

I'm gonna use a football metaphor to try and explain, and Ran can back me up: Charlotte is Tony Romo. When she's strong, she's smooth, cold, and tough like a Cadillac, doesn't take anything from nobody and makes life miserable for the other team. When she's weak, it's a disaster. And the weakness, even occasional weakness, is what drags her down. And it drags her down badly.

You know football metaphors will never do anything to convince me of anything, right? They go right over my head.

[Luminesa]

By Michael. Multiple times. Then by War's unintended nakedness. If she's the Queen of Heaven, she should not care.

She is the queen of Heaven.


She's also a girl who was sexually abused for years and still has trouble with those memories.



Those categories are not mutually exclusive. If, say, the Queen of England had been sexually abused in her childhood and still had issues with that, I'm sure you wouldn't go up to her and say 'You're the Queen of England, you shouldn't care. You're not allowed to have PTSD. Get over it.' Would you?

I'm gonna use a football metaphor to try and explain, and Ran can back me up: Charlotte is Tony Romo. When she's strong, she's smooth, cold, and tough like a Cadillac, doesn't take anything from nobody and makes life miserable for the other team. When she's weak, it's a disaster. And the weakness, even occasional weakness, is what drags her down. And it drags her down badly.

You know football metaphors will never do anything to convince me of anything, right? They go right over my head.

Queen Victoria was abused. Extensively. Emotionally and physically. By her mother and her half-rate boyfriend who thought he was a noble. All her young life, to the time she became queen when she was 18. The difference is Queen Victoria was a human being. She was not God's metaphysical daughter. And Queen Victoria suffered from a lot of maladies during her life-and took many years to overcome them. And she fell back into her grief when her husband died. And she never fully recovered from it. But this was because she was fully human. And no, I would never go to her and say, "Get over it." For one I'd lose my head (or get shot), for second, she's a human being.

Charlotte was also abused. Extensively. By her own father-figure. Mentally, physically, psychologically, and sexually. The difference is she is God's metaphysical daughter. She's essentially Jesus, minus the Incarnation. Does this mean she does not suffer? Of course not. Does this mean, however, that she, a non-physical being at large, should allow herself to be walked-on and to let people like Michael/Metatron get away with as much as they should? No. She has PTSD. Severe PTSD. We get that. But she's got to be of a very different caliber than the mere Queen of England, to run the Kingdom of Heaven.

She can have her suffering and her grief, and nobody is going to hold that against her, because she is a character played by a human, as Lux is an Angel played by me, and thus has many human aspects. But she needs to know when to pull herself together, above any sort of physical suffering, and to keep absolute order as much as possible. This does not necessarily mean she has to be Ivan the Terrible or Uncle Joe, but she up to this point in the Arc, has been so inconsistent (and as for the the Romo metaphor, all you need to know is that he is a football player who is notorious for being just that, inconsistent). Being stone-cold one minute and falling to pieces of someone essentially breathes on her the wrong way is not a sign of a strong ruler. As Justice Personified, The Glory of God Himself, she is blind to any sort of personal differences and attachments, in the sense that she has to see things on a grand scale and know when to get crud done. And this might be just me, but with Charlotte, this seems a bit muddled.

You're a great writer, and I'm not trying to tear down your character. I'm trying to explain that you can build her up, and I'm just giving examples of how to make her a more consistent and truly powerful character.

[Syrixces]

She is the queen of Heaven.


She's also a girl who was sexually abused for years and still has trouble with those memories.



Those categories are not mutually exclusive. If, say, the Queen of England had been sexually abused in her childhood and still had issues with that, I'm sure you wouldn't go up to her and say 'You're the Queen of England, you shouldn't care. You're not allowed to have PTSD. Get over it.' Would you?You know football metaphors will never do anything to convince me of anything, right? They go right over my head.

Queen Victoria was abused. Extensively. Emotionally and physically. By her mother and her half-rate boyfriend who thought he was a noble. All her young life, to the time she became queen when she was 18. The difference is Queen Victoria was a human being. She was not God's metaphysical daughter. And Queen Victoria suffered from a lot of maladies during her life-and took many years to overcome them. And she fell back into her grief when her husband died. And she never fully recovered from it. But this was because she was fully human. And no, I would never go to her and say, "Get over it." For one I'd lose my head (or get shot), for second, she's a human being.

Charlotte was also abused. Extensively. By her own father-figure. Mentally, physically, psychologically, and sexually. The difference is she is God's metaphysical daughter. She's essentially Jesus, minus the Incarnation. Does this mean she does not suffer? Of course not. Does this mean, however, that she, a non-physical being at large, should allow herself to be walked-on and to let people like Michael/Metatron get away with as much as they should? No. She has PTSD. Severe PTSD. We get that. But she's got to be of a very different caliber than the mere Queen of England, to run the Kingdom of Heaven.

She can have her suffering and her grief, and nobody is going to hold that against her, because she is a character played by a human, as Lux is an Angel played by me, and thus has many human aspects. But she needs to know when to pull herself together, above any sort of physical suffering, and to keep absolute order as much as possible. This does not necessarily mean she has to be Ivan the Terrible or Uncle Joe, but she up to this point in the Arc, has been so inconsistent (and as for the the Romo metaphor, all you need to know is that he is a football player who is notorious for being just that, inconsistent). Being stone-cold one minute and falling to pieces of someone essentially breathes on her the wrong way is not a sign of a strong ruler. As Justice Personified, The Glory of God Himself, she is blind to any sort of personal differences and attachments, in the sense that she has to see things on a grand scale and know when to get crud done. And this might be just me, but with Charlotte, this seems a bit muddled.

You're a great writer, and I'm not trying to tear down your character. I'm trying to explain that you can build her up, and I'm just giving examples of how to make her a more consistent and truly powerful character.

In summation, Charlotte needs to grow a pair.

Sy lol. "Masterbater"

Not as easily as you might think, no. Allowing oneself to show emotion is fine as long as one knows how to suppress it.

Let's see--she was thrown out of Heaven for events she couldn't control, manipulated and hurt in oh so many ways, and then when she finally found happiness it all came tumbling down when the same realm that declared she wasn't good enough for it comes back and makes her rule over a universe that has cut her pretty much no slack, ever, and on top of that kills her husband and threatens her children so she'll agree.

She knows how to suppress her emotions, all right. How else do you think she survived this long?

Buuuut they still get messed with, regardless.

Stuff makes sense tho. Guess you're right.

You're very welcome for my immature humor!

Not as easily as you might think, no. Allowing oneself to show emotion is fine as long as one knows how to suppress it.

Let's see--she was thrown out of Heaven for events she couldn't control, manipulated and hurt in oh so many ways, and then when she finally found happiness it all came tumbling down when the same realm that declared she wasn't good enough for it comes back and makes her rule over a universe that has cut her pretty much no slack, ever, and on top of that kills her husband and threatens her children so she'll agree.

She knows how to suppress her emotions, all right. How else do you think she survived this long?

Maybe you should work on making your characters strategies more obvious. Because from our stand point, Charlotte is not in a mental condition suited enough to take over Heaven...

In fact, using what I remember, even after fifty years, I don't think she'd be ready to take over a small Oklahoma town.

I think, though, that it comes down to a problem with the medium you use to write, though. You'd be able to edit the whole work to show Charlotte's progression more if this were a book, but since this is an RP and moves too rapidly in sudden directions, characters have to be relatively static, mainly because if they did react psychologically to the shifts in plot, they'd have a mental brake down.

Free's right about her mental condition tho

[Luminesa]

Queen Victoria was abused. Extensively. Emotionally and physically. By her mother and her half-rate boyfriend who thought he was a noble. All her young life, to the time she became queen when she was 18. The difference is Queen Victoria was a human being. She was not God's metaphysical daughter. And Queen Victoria suffered from a lot of maladies during her life-and took many years to overcome them. And she fell back into her grief when her husband died. And she never fully recovered from it. But this was because she was fully human. And no, I would never go to her and say, "Get over it." For one I'd lose my head (or get shot), for second, she's a human being.

Charlotte was also abused. Extensively. By her own father-figure. Mentally, physically, psychologically, and sexually. The difference is she is God's metaphysical daughter. She's essentially Jesus, minus the Incarnation. Does this mean she does not suffer? Of course not. Does this mean, however, that she, a non-physical being at large, should allow herself to be walked-on and to let people like Michael/Metatron get away with as much as they should? No. She has PTSD. Severe PTSD. We get that. But she's got to be of a very different caliber than the mere Queen of England, to run the Kingdom of Heaven.

She can have her suffering and her grief, and nobody is going to hold that against her, because she is a character played by a human, as Lux is an Angel played by me, and thus has many human aspects. But she needs to know when to pull herself together, above any sort of physical suffering, and to keep absolute order as much as possible. This does not necessarily mean she has to be Ivan the Terrible or Uncle Joe, but she up to this point in the Arc, has been so inconsistent (and as for the the Romo metaphor, all you need to know is that he is a football player who is notorious for being just that, inconsistent). Being stone-cold one minute and falling to pieces of someone essentially breathes on her the wrong way is not a sign of a strong ruler. As Justice Personified, The Glory of God Himself, she is blind to any sort of personal differences and attachments, in the sense that she has to see things on a grand scale and know when to get crud done. And this might be just me, but with Charlotte, this seems a bit muddled.

You're a great writer, and I'm not trying to tear down your character. I'm trying to explain that you can build her up, and I'm just giving examples of how to make her a more consistent and truly powerful character.

In summation, Charlotte needs to grow a pair.

Sy lol. "Masterbater"


Buuuut they still get messed with, regardless.

Stuff makes sense tho. Guess you're right.

You're very welcome for my immature humor!

Maybe you should work on making your characters strategies more obvious. Because from our stand point, Charlotte is not in a mental condition suited enough to take over Heaven...

In fact, using what I remember, even after fifty years, I don't think she'd be ready to take over a small Oklahoma town.

I think, though, that it comes down to a problem with the medium you use to write, though. You'd be able to edit the whole work to show Charlotte's progression more if this were a book, but since this is an RP and moves too rapidly in sudden directions, characters have to be relatively static, mainly because if they did react psychologically to the shifts in plot, they'd have a mental brake down.

Free's right about her mental condition tho

Sy, Charlotte can't grow a pair, she's a lady...soooooo...

[Charlia]

Queen Victoria was abused. Extensively. Emotionally and physically. By her mother and her half-rate boyfriend who thought he was a noble. All her young life, to the time she became queen when she was 18. The difference is Queen Victoria was a human being. She was not God's metaphysical daughter. And Queen Victoria suffered from a lot of maladies during her life-and took many years to overcome them. And she fell back into her grief when her husband died. And she never fully recovered from it. But this was because she was fully human. And no, I would never go to her and say, "Get over it." For one I'd lose my head (or get shot), for second, she's a human being.

Charlotte was also abused. Extensively. By her own father-figure. Mentally, physically, psychologically, and sexually. The difference is she is God's metaphysical daughter. She's essentially Jesus, minus the Incarnation. Does this mean she does not suffer? Of course not. Does this mean, however, that she, a non-physical being at large, should allow herself to be walked-on and to let people like Michael/Metatron get away with as much as they should? No. She has PTSD. Severe PTSD. We get that. But she's got to be of a very different caliber than the mere Queen of England, to run the Kingdom of Heaven.

She can have her suffering and her grief, and nobody is going to hold that against her, because she is a character played by a human, as Lux is an Angel played by me, and thus has many human aspects. But she needs to know when to pull herself together, above any sort of physical suffering, and to keep absolute order as much as possible. This does not necessarily mean she has to be Ivan the Terrible or Uncle Joe, but she up to this point in the Arc, has been so inconsistent (and as for the the Romo metaphor, all you need to know is that he is a football player who is notorious for being just that, inconsistent). Being stone-cold one minute and falling to pieces of someone essentially breathes on her the wrong way is not a sign of a strong ruler. As Justice Personified, The Glory of God Himself, she is blind to any sort of personal differences and attachments, in the sense that she has to see things on a grand scale and know when to get crud done. And this might be just me, but with Charlotte, this seems a bit muddled.

You're a great writer, and I'm not trying to tear down your character. I'm trying to explain that you can build her up, and I'm just giving examples of how to make her a more consistent and truly powerful character.

In summation, Charlotte needs to grow a pair.

Sy lol. "Masterbater"


Buuuut they still get messed with, regardless.

Stuff makes sense tho. Guess you're right.

You're very welcome for my immature humor!

Maybe you should work on making your characters strategies more obvious. Because from our stand point, Charlotte is not in a mental condition suited enough to take over Heaven...

In fact, using what I remember, even after fifty years, I don't think she'd be ready to take over a small Oklahoma town.

I think, though, that it comes down to a problem with the medium you use to write, though. You'd be able to edit the whole work to show Charlotte's progression more if this were a book, but since this is an RP and moves too rapidly in sudden directions, characters have to be relatively static, mainly because if they did react psychologically to the shifts in plot, they'd have a mental brake down.

Free's right about her mental condition tho

You're the one who came up with the idea. Where the heck did Jesus go anyway, way better option than Charlotte.



Also, say that first part to her face and you'll lose yours.

[Luminesa]

In summation, Charlotte needs to grow a pair.



You're very welcome for my immature humor!



Free's right about her mental condition tho

You're the one who came up with the idea. Where the heck did Jesus go anyway, way better option than Charlotte.



Also, say that first part to her face and you'll lose yours.

What?

[Charlia]

You're the one who came up with the idea. Where the heck did Jesus go anyway, way better option than Charlotte.



Also, say that first part to her face and you'll lose yours.

What?

Well it feels like the logic here is that Charlotte got pressganged into being Queen of Heaven 'cause she was the daughter of God and such, not because of her mental stability. But what just struck me is that Jesus happens to be the Son of God and way more mentally sound than Charlotte, so is Jesus off somewhere doing something important? Or dead? Why weren't they just like 'Yo Jesus, wanna rule Heaven? I mean there is that other girl but she's not the most stable of people, so... yeah!'

[Luminesa]

What?

Well it feels like the logic here is that Charlotte got pressganged into being Queen of Heaven 'cause she was the daughter of God and such, not because of her mental stability. But what just struck me is that Jesus happens to be the Son of God and way more mentally sound than Charlotte, so is Jesus off somewhere doing something important? Or dead? Why weren't they just like 'Yo Jesus, wanna rule Heaven? I mean there is that other girl but she's not the most stable of people, so... yeah!'

...If God is dead, that means Jesus is dead. Because the Blessed Trinity.

And we're not she shouldn't be there, she just needs to know when to pull herself together a bit.

[Camaalbakrius]

Well it feels like the logic here is that Charlotte got pressganged into being Queen of Heaven 'cause she was the daughter of God and such, not because of her mental stability. But what just struck me is that Jesus happens to be the Son of God and way more mentally sound than Charlotte, so is Jesus off somewhere doing something important? Or dead? Why weren't they just like 'Yo Jesus, wanna rule Heaven? I mean there is that other girl but she's not the most stable of people, so... yeah!'

...If God is dead, that means Jesus is dead. Because the Blessed Trinity.

Technically, if the punishment for sin is death, and Jesus is without sin, how can he die? That is, post rising form grave

[Charlia]

Well it feels like the logic here is that Charlotte got pressganged into being Queen of Heaven 'cause she was the daughter of God and such, not because of her mental stability. But what just struck me is that Jesus happens to be the Son of God and way more mentally sound than Charlotte, so is Jesus off somewhere doing something important? Or dead? Why weren't they just like 'Yo Jesus, wanna rule Heaven? I mean there is that other girl but she's not the most stable of people, so... yeah!'

...If God is dead, that means Jesus is dead. Because the Blessed Trinity.

And we're not she shouldn't be there, she just needs to know when to pull herself together a bit.

True, did not think of that.


Yeah, that has never been her strong suit. I imagine when currently-suffering angel showed up and was all like 'Hey, you have to rule Heaven now,' she just sort of deadpanned 'You must be truly desperate to come to me for help.'

Okay, no, that didn't happen. But it would've been funny. And apropos.

[Luminesa]

...If God is dead, that means Jesus is dead. Because the Blessed Trinity.

Technically, if the punishment for sin is death, and Jesus is without sin, how can he die? That is, post rising form grave

Holy High logic is not exactly linear with the Bible, don't panic. We here at HH are somewhere between Supernatural, Apocrypha, and Neon Genesis Evangelion. Just a little weird. XD

[Charlia]

Technically, if the punishment for sin is death, and Jesus is without sin, how can he die? That is, post rising form grave

Holy High logic is not exactly linear with the Bible, don't panic. We here at HH are somewhere between Supernatural, Apocrypha, and Neon Genesis Evangelion. Just a little weird. XD

Some of us love that last part.


Some of us want giant white masked creatures on crosses, for the heck of it.


Some of us have a Sailor Lilith wallpaper. (Long story.)


Some of us can't think of NGE without picturing cat ears.


And some of us are just crazy.


None of these categories are mutually exclusive.

[Free Empire of the Low Isles]

I would think that HH, being so liberal with it's Bible lore, would actually have had a separate Jesus and God, aka, God can be dead while Jesus is alive.

Simply because the Holy Trinity never made much sense, and we seem to be in the habit of making mythology make sense here in HH.

[Charlia]

I would think that HH, being so liberal with it's Bible lore, would actually have had a separate Jesus and God, aka, God can be dead while Jesus is alive.

Simply because the Holy Trinity never made much sense, and we seem to be in the habit of making mythology make sense here in HH.

You mean, when we're not doing exactly the opposite. XD

[Luminesa]

I would think that HH, being so liberal with it's Bible lore, would actually have had a separate Jesus and God, aka, God can be dead while Jesus is alive.

Simply because the Holy Trinity never made much sense, and we seem to be in the habit of making mythology make sense here in HH.

It makes sense...to an extent that our finite minds can understand. God is three separate identities all made from the same substance. "Consubstantial". Therefore, you can't separate God from Jesus (unless you're JW or a Mormon).

And in reality, our mythology doesn't make a huge amount of sense, here in HH. We have multiple deities working together that probably would not like each other, if they all met in real-life. Not to mention that JESUS was the one who originally died (because of His human nature) while God the Father continued to live, as well as the Spirit, and Jesus's Divine Nature lived as well (remember, He has two natures).

Anyway, just because one person doesn't understand the Trinity entirely doesn't mean it should be thrown out. Flipping Aquinas wrote treatises on the Holy Trinity, and even he didn't understand the Trinity completely. Never threw it out.

[The Flutterlands]

So how are you guys doing?

[Ranoria]

I'm gonna use a football metaphor to try and explain, and Ran can back me up: Charlotte is Tony Romo. When she's strong, she's smooth, cold, and tough like a Cadillac, doesn't take anything from nobody and makes life miserable for the other team. When she's weak, it's a disaster. And the weakness, even occasional weakness, is what drags her down. And it drags her down badly.

Damn straight. It's a pretty good metaphor, actually.

...If God is dead, that means Jesus is dead. Because the Blessed Trinity.

And we're not she shouldn't be there, she just needs to know when to pull herself together a bit.

True, did not think of that.


Yeah, that has never been her strong suit. I imagine when currently-suffering angel showed up and was all like 'Hey, you have to rule Heaven now,' she just sort of deadpanned 'You must be truly desperate to come to me for help.'

Okay, no, that didn't happen. But it would've been funny. And apropos.

Okay srsly you guys have to start letting me chime in on there convos. XD

I wouldn't say there's a lack of character development, which I think is there to a very large extent, so much as she can be 'triggered' per say by certain stimuli. Ex: Mars being naked. That would've flipped Charlotte out before. I think.

[Syrixces]

Technically, if the punishment for sin is death, and Jesus is without sin, how can he die? That is, post rising form grave

Holy High logic is not exactly linear with the Bible, don't panic. We here at HH are somewhere between Supernatural, Apocrypha, and Neon Genesis Evangelion. Just a little weird. XD

HH logic? That's funny. We don't practice that concept here, heathen.

So how are you guys doing?

Good. DW man, we'll let you know when the arc is over.

I would think that HH, being so liberal with it's Bible lore, would actually have had a separate Jesus and God, aka, God can be dead while Jesus is alive.

Simply because the Holy Trinity never made much sense, and we seem to be in the habit of making mythology make sense here in HH.

It makes sense...to an extent that our finite minds can understand. God is three separate identities all made from the same substance. "Consubstantial". Therefore, you can't separate God from Jesus (unless you're JW or a Mormon).

And in reality, our mythology doesn't make a huge amount of sense, here in HH. We have multiple deities working together that probably would not like each other, if they all met in real-life. Not to mention that JESUS was the one who originally died (because of His human nature) while God the Father continued to live, as well as the Spirit, and Jesus's Divine Nature lived as well (remember, He has two natures).

Anyway, just because one person doesn't understand the Trinity entirely doesn't mean it should be thrown out. Flipping Aquinas wrote treatises on the Holy Trinity, and even he didn't understand the Trinity completely. Never threw it out.

Yay! The Bible makes no sense! I'm more confused than ever!

Also, would Jesus really be that good a leader? He was never exactly the military type, even before that Crucifixion bit.

...If God is dead, that means Jesus is dead. Because the Blessed Trinity.

And we're not she shouldn't be there, she just needs to know when to pull herself together a bit.

True, did not think of that.


Yeah, that has never been her strong suit. I imagine when currently-suffering angel showed up and was all like 'Hey, you have to rule Heaven now,' she just sort of deadpanned 'You must be truly desperate to come to me for help.'

Okay, no, that didn't happen. But it would've been funny. And apropos.

Stop stealing Loki lines, fangirl.

I'll post now

[Luminesa]

Holy High logic is not exactly linear with the Bible, don't panic. We here at HH are somewhere between Supernatural, Apocrypha, and Neon Genesis Evangelion. Just a little weird. XD

HH logic? That's funny. We don't practice that concept here, heathen.

So how are you guys doing?

Good. DW man, we'll let you know when the arc is over.

It makes sense...to an extent that our finite minds can understand. God is three separate identities all made from the same substance. "Consubstantial". Therefore, you can't separate God from Jesus (unless you're JW or a Mormon).

And in reality, our mythology doesn't make a huge amount of sense, here in HH. We have multiple deities working together that probably would not like each other, if they all met in real-life. Not to mention that JESUS was the one who originally died (because of His human nature) while God the Father continued to live, as well as the Spirit, and Jesus's Divine Nature lived as well (remember, He has two natures).

Anyway, just because one person doesn't understand the Trinity entirely doesn't mean it should be thrown out. Flipping Aquinas wrote treatises on the Holy Trinity, and even he didn't understand the Trinity completely. Never threw it out.

Yay! The Bible makes no sense! I'm more confused than ever!

Also, would Jesus really be that good a leader? He was never exactly the military type, even before that Crucifixion bit.

True, did not think of that.


Yeah, that has never been her strong suit. I imagine when currently-suffering angel showed up and was all like 'Hey, you have to rule Heaven now,' she just sort of deadpanned 'You must be truly desperate to come to me for help.'

Okay, no, that didn't happen. But it would've been funny. And apropos.

Stop stealing Loki lines, fangirl.

I'll post now

The greatest leaders in history have not been merely military leaders, but either spiritual leaders or literary heroes. Jesus, Tolstoy, Chesterton, Aristotle, Homer, Dickinson, Poe, Jefferson. Because nothing is more powerful than a person who knows a person who knows how the soul works and a person who knows how to write about it.

>.>
<.<

*Pokes Sy's nose.*

[Charlia]

I wouldn't say there's a lack of character development, which I think is there to a very large extent, so much as she can be 'triggered' per say by certain stimuli. Ex: Mars being naked. That would've flipped Charlotte out before. I think.

My point exactly.

If she hadn't gotten any better over time, she would have reacted much more strongly.

[Luminesa]

I wouldn't say there's a lack of character development, which I think is there to a very large extent, so much as she can be 'triggered' per say by certain stimuli. Ex: Mars being naked. That would've flipped Charlotte out before. I think.

My point exactly.

If she hadn't gotten any better over time, she would have reacted much more strongly.

Ran does have a point. She has improved. Greatly. I still say next time Michael returns (God knows when), she just needs to chuck him in Hell and move on.

[Ranoria]

My point exactly.

If she hadn't gotten any better over time, she would have reacted much more strongly.

Ran does have a point. She has improved. Greatly. I still say next time Michael returns (God knows when), she just needs to chuck him in Hell and move on.

Burn mother****** Burn mother ****** burn.

-Five FInger Death Punch, 2016

I actually haven't listened to any rock in awhile. I've been listening to country for the last couple of weeks. It's much higher quality music, if not less hypable.

Wait that's not true. I listen to rock/metal(metalloid?) before games.

[Charlia]

My point exactly.

If she hadn't gotten any better over time, she would have reacted much more strongly.

Ran does have a point. She has improved. Greatly. I still say next time Michael returns (God knows when), she just needs to chuck him in Hell and move on.

Um, she did, remember?

Then he came back.

[Syrixces]

Ran does have a point. She has improved. Greatly. I still say next time Michael returns (God knows when), she just needs to chuck him in Hell and move on.

Burn mother****** Burn mother ****** burn.

-Five FInger Death Punch, 2016

I actually haven't listened to any rock in awhile. I've been listening to country for the last couple of weeks. It's much higher quality music, if not less hypable.

Wait that's not true. I listen to rock/metal(metalloid?) before games.

>arguing that country is higher quality than rock

You fucking what mate?