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by Parzal » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:01 pm
Pacific Brotherhood of Steel wrote:Parzal wrote:We could just be constantly at war, vying for control, makes things much more interesting
I mean, yeah. But I do have a few more bones to pick with you. One, the fact that your men use plasma weaponry. Two, they have not only power armor, but Enclave power armor.
No one but the west coast and the Enclave have access to Plasma. The west coast may have access to it and if they don't it's being reverse engineered. Second the only faction with working power armor is the Enclave and the Brotherhood.
by Tysoania » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:02 pm
Zyvalia wrote:Looks pretty fun, expect a highly organized raider organization specializing in robots. Like the Rust Devils gone supermassive.
Monsone wrote:the USSR is up to something
by Pacific Brotherhood of Steel » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:03 pm
Tysoania wrote:Zyvalia wrote:Looks pretty fun, expect a highly organized raider organization specializing in robots. Like the Rust Devils gone supermassive.
Everyone's got robots and Power Armor and vehicles, and I'm just sitting here like "Well, I've got Minutemen."
"Curses."
Can I claim a high morale, then? I mean, they are volunteers and they are fighting for their lives, so...
by Pacific Brotherhood of Steel » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:04 pm
Parzal wrote:Pacific Brotherhood of Steel wrote:I mean, yeah. But I do have a few more bones to pick with you. One, the fact that your men use plasma weaponry. Two, they have not only power armor, but Enclave power armor.
No one but the west coast and the Enclave have access to Plasma. The west coast may have access to it and if they don't it's being reverse engineered. Second the only faction with working power armor is the Enclave and the Brotherhood.
Well, the history of my faction is them being a breakaway from (Insert Brotherhood faction here) after discovering the WONDERS OF CATHOLICISM!
by Zyvalia » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:06 pm
by Grand Adruvain » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:06 pm
Tysoania wrote:Zyvalia wrote:Looks pretty fun, expect a highly organized raider organization specializing in robots. Like the Rust Devils gone supermassive.
Everyone's got robots and Power Armor and vehicles, and I'm just sitting here like "Well, I've got Minutemen."
"Curses."
Can I claim a high morale, then? I mean, they are volunteers and they are fighting for their lives, so...
by Parzal » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:06 pm
by Tysoania » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:06 pm
Pacific Brotherhood of Steel wrote:I mean, PA isn't invincible. You aim for the weak spots of the armor with a high enough caliber and you'll do plenty of damage.
Monsone wrote:the USSR is up to something
by Pacific Brotherhood of Steel » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:07 pm
Parzal wrote:Pacific Brotherhood of Steel wrote:Even then only the west coast had it and you still have Enclave armors.
Going to point out the fact in Fallout 4 you can find plenty of Enclave Armor laying around, with it being called X-01 Power Armor, so that means the Enclave isn't the sole producer and user of said armor.
Also, Fallout 3 had actual plasma weapons, with it being based in the East
by Tysoania » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:08 pm
Grand Adruvain wrote:M8, I have cannons and rifles from 1890 and Cloth Uniforms, and Steam-Fusion ships.
How do you think I feel? X P
Monsone wrote:the USSR is up to something
by Parzal » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:10 pm
Pacific Brotherhood of Steel wrote:Parzal wrote:Going to point out the fact in Fallout 4 you can find plenty of Enclave Armor laying around, with it being called X-01 Power Armor, so that means the Enclave isn't the sole producer and user of said armor.
Also, Fallout 3 had actual plasma weapons, with it being based in the East
But you could only gain them from the Enclave. Even Elder Lyon's himself said that the ability to produce plasma weapons was unknown to his BoS faction.
Fallout 4 is not canon. It is a terrible game with terrible lore made by terrible people.
by Zyvalia » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:10 pm
Grand Adruvain wrote:Tysoania wrote:Everyone's got robots and Power Armor and vehicles, and I'm just sitting here like "Well, I've got Minutemen."
"Curses."
Can I claim a high morale, then? I mean, they are volunteers and they are fighting for their lives, so...
M8, I have cannons and rifles from 1890 and Cloth Uniforms, and Steam-Fusion ships.
How do you think I feel? X P
by Pacific Brotherhood of Steel » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:12 pm
Parzal wrote:Pacific Brotherhood of Steel wrote:But you could only gain them from the Enclave. Even Elder Lyon's himself said that the ability to produce plasma weapons was unknown to his BoS faction.
Fallout 4 is not canon. It is a terrible game with terrible lore made by terrible people.
Well, Bethesda has put the game into canon, so were going off what THEY say is canon, no matter what anyone else things of the game in question.
Which also, again, puts Plasma on the east coast, seeing as you can find plasma weapons in FO4, which is located in Boston.
by Grand Adruvain » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:13 pm
by Tysoania » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:15 pm
Zyvalia wrote:Maybe make your laser muskets have nine cranks? That could tip the scales in your favor.
Monsone wrote:the USSR is up to something
by Tysoania » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:18 pm
Pacific Brotherhood of Steel wrote:Okay buddy. All I know is that stated in the original game is that plasma weaponry is unique to the west coast, since they beat out the Enclave, and to the Enclave itself. There is no way that some random group found a huge stockpile of highly experimental plasma weaponry and Enclave armor to outfit and entire force of troops.
Monsone wrote:the USSR is up to something
by Pacific Brotherhood of Steel » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:19 pm
Tysoania wrote:Pacific Brotherhood of Steel wrote:Okay buddy. All I know is that stated in the original game is that plasma weaponry is unique to the west coast, since they beat out the Enclave, and to the Enclave itself. There is no way that some random group found a huge stockpile of highly experimental plasma weaponry and Enclave armor to outfit and entire force of troops.
Maybe someone independently developed it, sort of like the Institute with FEV?
by Parzal » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:20 pm
Pacific Brotherhood of Steel wrote:Parzal wrote:Well, Bethesda has put the game into canon, so were going off what THEY say is canon, no matter what anyone else things of the game in question.
Which also, again, puts Plasma on the east coast, seeing as you can find plasma weapons in FO4, which is located in Boston.
Okay buddy. All I know is that stated in the original game is that plasma weaponry is unique to the west coast, since they beat out the Enclave, and to the Enclave itself. There is no way that some random group found a huge stockpile of highly experimental plasma weaponry and Enclave armor to outfit and entire force of troops.
by Grand Adruvain » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:25 pm
by Confederation of imperial states » Wed Sep 07, 2016 5:28 pm
Pacific Brotherhood of Steel wrote:Parzal wrote:Going to point out the fact in Fallout 4 you can find plenty of Enclave Armor laying around, with it being called X-01 Power Armor, so that means the Enclave isn't the sole producer and user of said armor.
Also, Fallout 3 had actual plasma weapons, with it being based in the East
But you could only gain them from the Enclave. Even Elder Lyon's himself said that the ability to produce plasma weapons was unknown to his BoS faction.
Fallout 4 is not canon. It is a terrible game with terrible lore made by terrible people.
Parzal wrote:Pacific Brotherhood of Steel wrote:Okay buddy. All I know is that stated in the original game is that plasma weaponry is unique to the west coast, since they beat out the Enclave, and to the Enclave itself. There is no way that some random group found a huge stockpile of highly experimental plasma weaponry and Enclave armor to outfit and entire force of troops.
Alright, fair point. I'll call off this debate and let the RP Mod decide. If he wants me to change my app, I won't complain.
by Confederation of imperial states » Wed Sep 07, 2016 5:43 pm
by Jordkloden » Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:05 pm
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