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Postby Forest State » Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:03 pm

Theyra wrote:Wait, why would Xcom accepted someone with multiple untreated personalty disorders and if breaks down could maybe never recover?

Nobody knows about her personality disorders except for the depression. Even she doesn't know about all of them, and she keeps the one that she does know about, bipolar disorder, a secret.
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Postby Beiarusia » Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:03 pm

Theyra wrote:Wait, why would Xcom accepted someone with multiple untreated personalty disorders and if breaks down could maybe never recover?

The disorders listed mostly affect one's mood (with OCD being the exception). She's not schizophrenic or likely to go on a murderous rampage because some disembodied voice told her to do so. Some days she's sad and other days she's anxious. Likely if it became too much of a noticeable problem she would be prescribed something but, as it is, if she's more or less in control of her life then she should be good.

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Postby Relikai » Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:04 pm

I think organisations would choose between two individuals, who would be less of a liability than take risks in exchange for a slightly better proficiency...

It's better to have someone who works at 80% on a consistent basis, than someone who works at 90% with a risk to drop to an extended 10%.
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Postby Beiarusia » Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:08 pm

Relikai wrote:I think organisations would choose between two individuals, who would be less of a liability than take risks in exchange for a slightly better proficiency...

It's better to have someone who works at 80% on a consistent basis, than someone who works at 90% with a risk to drop to an extended 10%.

When you put it that way...

Speaking from experience, however, I can work consistently despite having been diagnosed with clinical depression. I was simply the sort to get the job done because it had nothing to do with how I felt. Guess it depends on how much the Pole allows it to show? It she cries herself to sleep at night but shows up ready to work in the morning then it could probably go unnoticed.

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Postby Theyra » Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:12 pm

Forest State wrote:
Theyra wrote:Wait, why would Xcom accepted someone with multiple untreated personalty disorders and if breaks down could maybe never recover?

Nobody knows about her personality disorders except for the depression. Even she doesn't know about all of them, and she keeps the one that she does know about, bipolar disorder, a secret.


But she would have to have a psych evaluation I would think if she joined any military organization like Xcom and I think people would find out then. Your character seems to be unstable to me, more so since there is a chance of her breaking and never recovering. Just seems like a weird choice to me and it's more than just depression, it's that and several personality disorders. Beiarusia. Though I know from a friend what you mean about depression.
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Postby Forest State » Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:17 pm

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Forest State wrote:Nobody knows about her personality disorders except for the depression. Even she doesn't know about all of them, and she keeps the one that she does know about, bipolar disorder, a secret.


But she would have to have a psych evaluation I would think if she joined any military organization like Xcom and I think people would find out then. Your character seems to be unstable to me, more so since there is a chance of her breaking and never recovering. Just seems like a weird choice to me and it's more than just depression, Beiarusia. Though I know from a friend what you mean about depression.

Eh, psychiatrists can't spot everything and they aren't necessarily accurate if the person being evaluated is trying to appear as normal as possible. Sure certain things might be easy giveaways(you can detect OCD in some people by looking at their eyes) if you know what you're looking for, but Haley has always tried to look 'normal' to others because she's always had people under her command who wouldn't be able to look up to her as a leader if they thought she was unstable.
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:48 pm

Beiarusia wrote:People who have not posted or have gone inactive are to be treated as NPC's until further notice.


Sorry.

I'm really sorry on this one. I will post, if possible. And allowed.
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Postby Anowa » Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:50 pm

Altito Asmoro wrote:
Beiarusia wrote:People who have not posted or have gone inactive are to be treated as NPC's until further notice.


Sorry.

I'm really sorry on this one. I will post, if possible. And allowed.

At first I thought you were under duress.

But I don't see why you wouldn't be allowed, not like Harewood's been brained yet.
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:58 pm

Anowa wrote:
Altito Asmoro wrote:
Sorry.

I'm really sorry on this one. I will post, if possible. And allowed.

At first I thought you were under duress.

But I don't see why you wouldn't be allowed, not like Harewood's been brained yet.


People who haven't been posted are to be treated as NPCs, Anowa. I read that sentence above, as you can see that.

Anyway, I've been closer to the pawnshop and firing some suppressive fire on the Sectoids on sight. Hopefully no mistake there.
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Postby Relikai » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:10 pm

GAD and OCD are two of my main concerns. How would one remain incredibly calm during a when GAD's effects are lasting and Chronic, especially when left untreated?

Combine that with OCD and being in Mission Control, We're dealing with a possible commander or someone in a controlling role who would worry about what the subordinates were thinking compared to their own PoV, as well as needing their instructions to be carried out to the exact letter. Especially when XCOM would be counting on a small manpower pool and unable to even 'fail' lest a Council Nation pulls their support from the organization to rely on their own independent resources, I doubt the 'Player' would count for anything less than the best, and troops they can count on to perform consistently in the field.

The bias is real due to the demands of the job especially in the military, and often people who tried to hide these conditions would soon be found out due to the great scrutiny during a selection process and evaluation. With the operators already facing a force trying to kill them, the last thing a command structure needs is a temporary loss of personnel due at any time.
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Postby Anowa » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:13 pm

Relikai wrote:GAD and OCD are two of my main concerns. How would one remain incredibly calm during a when GAD's effects are lasting and Chronic, especially when left untreated?

Combine that with OCD and being in Mission Control, We're dealing with a possible commander or someone in a controlling role who would worry about what the subordinates were thinking compared to their own PoV, as well as needing their instructions to be carried out to the exact letter. Especially when XCOM would be counting on a small manpower pool and unable to even 'fail' lest a Council Nation pulls their support from the organization to rely on their own independent resources, I doubt the 'Player' would count for anything less than the best, and troops they can count on to perform consistently in the field.

The bias is real due to the demands of the job especially in the military, and often people who tried to hide these conditions would soon be found out due to the great scrutiny during a selection process and evaluation. With the operators already facing a force trying to kill them, the last thing a command structure needs is a temporary loss of personnel due at any time.

0/10, I want Bradford.
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:14 pm

Theyra wrote:Wait, why would Xcom accepted someone with multiple untreated personalty disorders and if breaks down could maybe never recover?


Is it possible for the Council Nations to pull strings for XCOM to accepted someone with personality disorders and/or an illness that can cause effect at the very wrong time when they were needed the most?

Say, if the person is actually very skilled but balanced out with the disorders/illness.

Anowa wrote:
Relikai wrote:GAD and OCD are two of my main concerns. How would one remain incredibly calm during a when GAD's effects are lasting and Chronic, especially when left untreated?

Combine that with OCD and being in Mission Control, We're dealing with a possible commander or someone in a controlling role who would worry about what the subordinates were thinking compared to their own PoV, as well as needing their instructions to be carried out to the exact letter. Especially when XCOM would be counting on a small manpower pool and unable to even 'fail' lest a Council Nation pulls their support from the organization to rely on their own independent resources, I doubt the 'Player' would count for anything less than the best, and troops they can count on to perform consistently in the field.

The bias is real due to the demands of the job especially in the military, and often people who tried to hide these conditions would soon be found out due to the great scrutiny during a selection process and evaluation. With the operators already facing a force trying to kill them, the last thing a command structure needs is a temporary loss of personnel due at any time.

0/10, I want Bradford.


Bradford is...too by-the-book, right?
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Postby Anowa » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:17 pm

Altito Asmoro wrote:Bradford is...too by-the-book, right?

During the Invasion, kinda. But it's better than the melting pot of mental disorders.
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Postby Theyra » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:19 pm

Plus, wouldn't her bi-polar disorder increase her depression and vice-versa? And it's untreated and she has four untreated conditions which her depression could just be her bipolar disorder. I doubt she could hide them and on a side note. I kinda surprised there is no second in command like Bradford or something.

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Postby Altito Asmoro » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:20 pm

Theyra wrote:Plus, wouldn't her bi-polar disorder increase her depression and vice-versa? And it's untreated and she has four untreated conditions which her depression could just be her bipolar disorder. I doubt she could hide them and on a side note. I kinda surprised there is no second in command like Bradford or something.


We don't want for our second-in-command to be Bradford, right? I don't doubt his ability on leadership and command, and I kind of like him.

But the majority here are not fans of him.
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Postby Theyra » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:22 pm

Altito Asmoro wrote:
Theyra wrote:Plus, wouldn't her bi-polar disorder increase her depression and vice-versa? And it's untreated and she has four untreated conditions which her depression could just be her bipolar disorder. I doubt she could hide them and on a side note. I kinda surprised there is no second in command like Bradford or something.


We don't want for our second-in-command to be Bradford, right? I don't doubt his ability on leadership and command, and I kind of like him.

But the majority here are not fans of him.

I mean their being a second in command in the first place, npc or player. Thought of making one or a scientist.

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Postby Anowa » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:28 pm

Altito Asmoro wrote:
Theyra wrote:Plus, wouldn't her bi-polar disorder increase her depression and vice-versa? And it's untreated and she has four untreated conditions which her depression could just be her bipolar disorder. I doubt she could hide them and on a side note. I kinda surprised there is no second in command like Bradford or something.


We don't want for our second-in-command to be Bradford, right? I don't doubt his ability on leadership and command, and I kind of like him.

But the majority here are not fans of him.

Anyone who dislikes Bradford has never had any decent friends.

Central Officer John "Motherfucking" Bradford would only contribute to XCOM.
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:30 pm

Anowa wrote:
Altito Asmoro wrote:
We don't want for our second-in-command to be Bradford, right? I don't doubt his ability on leadership and command, and I kind of like him.

But the majority here are not fans of him.

Anyone who dislikes Bradford has never had any decent friends.

Central Officer John "Motherfucking" Bradford would only contribute to XCOM.


Never said I hated him, though he is quite good.
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:32 pm

Bei, you sure you don't want to add more co-ops? I'm not the most active co-op here, you know.
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Postby Beiarusia » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:36 pm

Altito Asmoro wrote:Bei, you sure you don't want to add more co-ops? I'm not the most active co-op here, you know.

I think Dera wanted to be one but he's gone as well. So I'll make it open again if anyone wants to grab a Co-OP position.

And Colonel Reid was supposed to be our version of Bradford. Guess the person we're really missing is the "player" as their role has been broken up into the squad leaders.

As for the mental disorders, after hearing some valid arguments I respectively ask Forest to nix a few. Personally I would get rid of the anxiety disorder.

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Postby Anowa » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:37 pm

Beiarusia wrote:
Altito Asmoro wrote:Bei, you sure you don't want to add more co-ops? I'm not the most active co-op here, you know.

I think Dera wanted to be one but he's gone as well. So I'll make it open again if anyone wants to grab a Co-OP position.

Ayyyy.
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Postby Beiarusia » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:38 pm

Anowa wrote:
Beiarusia wrote:I think Dera wanted to be one but he's gone as well. So I'll make it open again if anyone wants to grab a Co-OP position.

Ayyyy.

So that's a yes for Co-OP Anowa?

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Postby Altito Asmoro » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:38 pm

Anowa wrote:
Beiarusia wrote:I think Dera wanted to be one but he's gone as well. So I'll make it open again if anyone wants to grab a Co-OP position.

Ayyyy.


Go take it Anowa! :p
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Postby Anowa » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:55 pm

Beiarusia wrote:
Anowa wrote:Ayyyy.

So that's a yes for Co-OP Anowa?

It's a yes from me :P
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Postby The Moscow Metro Red Line » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:56 pm

Beiarusia wrote:As for the mental disorders, after hearing some valid arguments I respectively ask Forest to nix a few. Personally I would get rid of the anxiety disorder.


Base Defense is going to be fun fun fun.....

I'm waiting for Relikai to post before I post for Vasily.
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