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Postby Ubaria » Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:41 am

Relikai wrote:
Forest State wrote:Why get rid of anxiety? That's easily the easiest one to hide from others(when I said she was calm all the time, I meant outwardly). I could get rid of the OCD(even though that's typically linked to anxiety), or even the bipolar disorder, but having both GAD and depression is a major part of her story. She would still be a revolutionary in the Middle East if it wasn't for her personality problems.



And she gets a command role, or somewhere in the Command Center?

Sorry, but even in a basic army, the moment someone shows any kind of issue listed, any sort of disorder especially mental, the trust between the man on the ground and their superiors sitting comfortable in their command centers take a hit.

Take the depression down a lower level to a section commander. My former SecCom was diagnosed with depression after a checkup during a weekend break, and he was transferred not just out of a combat battalion, but sent to a logistics division for clerical duties.

Depression is a valid case to be discharged from a professional military. Not proud to say it, but plenty of strawberries feigned Depression to escape conscription or get to go home everyday while those who suffer for real have to deal with the social fallout with people who claim to have depression.


I have to agree. I understand you're trying to build a character but overloading them with a bunch of mental issues seems like a cheap shortcut, especially since you could class this as a military RP all characters would have forgone extensive medical checkups and psychological evaluations, even if you could 'hide it well' they would have weeded it out one way or another eventually. Now as Relk said you're in a command position, typically something reserved for people who are sound of mind and judgement.
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Postby Beiarusia » Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:53 am

Just an FYI but all aliens in the pawnshop have been killed. Vacif cleared the building.

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Postby Ubaria » Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:56 am

Beiarusia wrote:Just an FYI but all aliens in the pawnshop have been killed. Vacif cleared the building.


o shit.
Ok i'll change that.

The ones around the side of the warehouse are still game right? Just realized they were the ones that shot at sexton not the ones in the pawnshop
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Postby Forest State » Wed Sep 14, 2016 6:58 am

Relikai wrote:
Forest State wrote:Why get rid of anxiety? That's easily the easiest one to hide from others(when I said she was calm all the time, I meant outwardly). I could get rid of the OCD(even though that's typically linked to anxiety), or even the bipolar disorder, but having both GAD and depression is a major part of her story. She would still be a revolutionary in the Middle East if it wasn't for her personality problems.



And she gets a command role, or somewhere in the Command Center?

Sorry, but even in a basic army, the moment someone shows any kind of issue listed, any sort of disorder especially mental, the trust between the man on the ground and their superiors sitting comfortable in their command centers take a hit.

Take the depression down a lower level to a section commander. My former SecCom was diagnosed with depression after a checkup during a weekend break, and he was transferred not just out of a combat battalion, but sent to a logistics division for clerical duties.

Depression is a valid case to be discharged from a professional military. Not proud to say it, but plenty of strawberries feigned Depression to escape conscription or get to go home everyday while those who suffer for real have to deal with the social fallout with people who claim to have depression.

She's not a commander, she's something of a radio operator who keeps everyone on the same page on missions and informs them based on the latest happenings, and/or keeps them calm by talking them through dangerous parts of a mission. I still say that she can hide her problems because she never has to go into actual combat, and she only has to appear outwardly calm to others over radio. That's why she lasted seven years with FARC and three with Peshmerga, but only lasted six months in Palestine, because she's not a fighter and she performed well unless she was given an actual combat role where it was harder to hide her disorders. If anything, everyone would notice her withdrawing if she didn't feel okay, but they wouldn't know the reason why.
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Postby Forest State » Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:03 am

Also Ubaria you do realize that I gave her the mental problems that she has because they're all linked to each other? General Axiety overlaps with OCD and depression, and being bipolar can make someone depressed.
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Postby Relikai » Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:15 am

I really, really, do hope that you understand that Combat-Support roles, and being the link with an Operative on a field mission is an extremely taxing job.

Hell, sometimes they're even more taxing since you'll have to see and hear people die and you aren't able to do anything about it.

The question now is, would she even be able to function as a combat or combat-support in the first place, and effectively? Is her history as a FARC support even realistic?

If you ask me, no. Any self-respecting outfit demands everything from their operators, and someone who disappears halfway would be chewed out for leaving their place in the command room or radio, especially when thing seem to be calm.
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Postby Parcia » Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:41 am

Im sorry for not posting, sudden attack of rainstorm and 20 year old Comcast lines knocked my wifi out for a few days.

I have a cold too...
So apparently Cobalt has named me a Cyber terrorist, I honestly don't know to be Honored or offended.
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Postby Forest State » Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:02 am

Relikai wrote:I really, really, do hope that you understand that Combat-Support roles, and being the link with an Operative on a field mission is an extremely taxing job.

Hell, sometimes they're even more taxing since you'll have to see and hear people die and you aren't able to do anything about it.

The question now is, would she even be able to function as a combat or combat-support in the first place, and effectively? Is her history as a FARC support even realistic?

If you ask me, no. Any self-respecting outfit demands everything from their operators, and someone who disappears halfway would be chewed out for leaving their place in the command room or radio, especially when thing seem to be calm.

I mean, I know it's demanding but I have her a lot of experience to make sure that by now she would be able to handle it. And her role with FARC was different than what she does now, she managed logistics and then she was a tactician. Her issues will probably come out eventually, but ten plus years as a revolutionary would have taught her by now how to appear as a calm and collected leader even if she's going through trouble internally.
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Postby Theyra » Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:14 am

With Bipolar or Depression that is a chance of her developing or having Psychosis or Psychosis-like symptoms , which I think she may have since she has both disorders and is untreated. Plus, the two would amplify each other with increased sadness or even contract each other. How would she function when she is in her mania episode and her depression kicks? I only way I could see her being able to hide the disorders or be in control is by having a large amount of willpower but, even then. She is untreated and if she breaks it may be impossible for her to recover regardles and how would she fare in the base defense mission? I just don't see it, move so after looking up the disorders and reading about the signs and symptoms.

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Postby Ubaria » Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:29 am

Forest State wrote:Also Ubaria you do realize that I gave her the mental problems that she has because they're all linked to each other? General Axiety overlaps with OCD and depression, and being bipolar can make someone depressed.


Yes, but what i'm saying is having those in the first place is somewhat of an issue.
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Postby Theodosiya » Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:41 am

How long does it takes to flank the aliens from the apartment?
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Postby Forest State » Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:58 am

Going to drop this character by popular demand...

I should have something up on the IC this afternoon.
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Postby Parcia » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:12 am

Forest State wrote:Going to drop this character by popular demand...

I should have something up on the IC this afternoon.



WAHHH!??!

No!

I had...plans...
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Postby Forest State » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:42 am

Parcia wrote:
Forest State wrote:Going to drop this character by popular demand...

I should have something up on the IC this afternoon.



WAHHH!??!

No!

I had...plans...

Not June, the other character I made for something special that's going to happen later in the plot.

Although I dunno, I might let June do something stupid and get killed.
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Postby Parcia » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:45 am

Forest State wrote:
Parcia wrote:

WAHHH!??!

No!

I had...plans...

Not June, the other character I made for something special that's going to happen later in the plot.

Although I dunno, I might let June do something stupid and get killed.


Pls no, Isabel is already going to need some time in the infirmary although, if they ended up in beds next to each other...
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Postby Relikai » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:54 am

Do take you little 1-1 intimacy stuff to TG. Thanks.
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Postby Forest State » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:56 am

Parcia wrote:
Forest State wrote:Not June, the other character I made for something special that's going to happen later in the plot.

Although I dunno, I might let June do something stupid and get killed.


Pls no, Isabel is already going to need some time in the infirmary although, if they ended up in beds next to each other...

Inb4 June shoots herself in the foot to get to the infirmary XD
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Postby Cerrania » Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:01 am

Relikai wrote:
Forest State wrote:Why get rid of anxiety? That's easily the easiest one to hide from others(when I said she was calm all the time, I meant outwardly). I could get rid of the OCD(even though that's typically linked to anxiety), or even the bipolar disorder, but having both GAD and depression is a major part of her story. She would still be a revolutionary in the Middle East if it wasn't for her personality problems.



And she gets a command role, or somewhere in the Command Center?

Sorry, but even in a basic army, the moment someone shows any kind of issue listed, any sort of disorder especially mental, the trust between the man on the ground and their superiors sitting comfortable in their command centers take a hit.

Take the depression down a lower level to a section commander. My former SecCom was diagnosed with depression after a checkup during a weekend break, and he was transferred not just out of a combat battalion, but sent to a logistics division for clerical duties.

Depression is a valid case to be discharged from a professional military. Not proud to say it, but plenty of strawberries feigned Depression to escape conscription or get to go home everyday while those who suffer for real have to deal with the social fallout with people who claim to have depression.

Where did you/do you serve? Depression is a massive medical disqualification in the United States. Heard of Captains here in promising position for company commander job get a staff job just based off of minor depression.
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Postby Bentus » Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:08 am

Forest State wrote:She would still be a revolutionary in the Middle East if it wasn't for her personality problems.


Just tacking onto the end of this since it brought up something that has been niggling at me for a bit. My knowledge of the situation is pretty darn second-rate admittedly, but when I wrote up Nehir's app I was thinking of the Peshmerga of being equivalent to a national fighting force (or more similar to one at least) than an independent, rebel group such as the IRA, FARC, Daesh, or what-have-you. I read that they were fairly on-par to the Iraqi military in terms of training, although working with more out-of-date equipment. But now I'm not so sure if that's the case.

Anyone with better knowledge on this than I care weighing in?
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Postby Cerrania » Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:00 pm

Name: Carrington Regis
Nickname: "Jumpman"
Age: 29
Sex: Male
Nationality: British
Appearance: Taken in Afghanistan

Rank: Squaddie
Class: Marksman
Weapon: Designated Marksman Rifle, Handgun
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Previous Assignment: 4 years British Parachute Regiment, 6 years British Special Air Service

Skills: Carrington is a natural tactican and level-headed thinker. Good under pressure, he rarely cracks in stressful situations and will be the first one to react in a reasonable manner to intense situations. His first concern is always to resolve conflict without getting anyone killed, enemy or ally, and will pursue non-violent solutions whenever applicable. Despite this, however, Carrington is a ruthless soldier, considering all his training. His marksmanship and weapons proficiency, land navigation, demolition skills, and physucal fitness are all in peak condition. Also, considering his history of service, he is excellent at airborne insertion.
Weakness: His calm demeanor under fire can be unnerving to those operating with him, and can often be taken for apathy. His general expectation is for those around him to be just as excellent as him, and this leads to clashes over proficiency occasionally.

Personality: A generally outgoing and friendly character, Carrington is an enthusiastic socialite. While he doesn't necessarily feed off of large social gatherings, he has never felt uncomfortable in them. He is always willing to talk about anything with anyone, and isn't afraid to ask some of the more pressing questions people would feel uncomfortable answering. This is more of an accidental habit than intentional, as Carrington never tries to offend anyone. He can be considered a mediator, always trying to find even ground. Not to mention, he is very humble and soft-spoken about his talents. A bit of a free spirit, Carrington is just as likely to be found at the pub with his mates as he is to be wandering aimlessly(yet never lost) through the woods.

Bio: Carrington's life is a classic example of the old saying that you never know where life will take you. Born to an extremely rich family in a suburb outside of London, a tiny town by the name of Weybridge, Carrington spent the first few years of his life as a prince. Both his parents had extremely well-paying jobs, his father being the executive of a corporation and his mother a doctor, and were rarely home. As soon as Carrington could walk, he was out the door. Many-a-times, he had to have a manservant or other employee of the household accompany him on romps through the surrounding landscape, all the way until the age they decided he was smart enough to go independently.

In his teen years, as his fascination with the natural world grew, so too did his love of fitness. The walking through the woods of his younger years turned into jogging, which turned into full-blown running. A natural athlete, Carrington joined his private schools cross country team and excelled among his peers. Performing well, but never winning, in several championships, he became frustrated with his inability to best some of the better runners. Though he stayed with the cross country team, he searched for other ways to push his body and mind. He found that in the form of his uncle, Henry Regis, who was a former British Special Air Service member. The two became extremely close, and often Carrington would spend whole weeks at his Uncle's flat, talking about everything from life to service in the military. Henry regaled him with stories of missions he underwent with the SAS, revealing as much as he could without disclosing classified information. The two often exercised together, Henry putting Carrington through some of the grueling workouts he himself had to undergo during SAS selection. For four years, the pair were inseparable.

And then, when Carrington was approaching his 19th birthday, his uncle was killed in a tragic car accident. The police on the scene stated what Carrington had no intention of hearing. Henry was severely intoxicated and veered off the road. He slammed into a thick tree at almost 60 miles per hour. They found his body several meters in front of the car, having been thrown from it.

Shocked, Carrington flew into a tirade. He disappeared for several weeks, so long that his parents actually became concerned. His university reported that he had been attending class, but none of his friends could find him around campus. It was in August of 2004 that his parents finally received contact from him. He had enlisted in the British Army, this was his one permitted phone call during basic training.

After basic training, Carrington immediately stationed with the 3rd Battalion of the British Parachute Regiment. It wasn't until 2006 that he saw his first deployment, however. He served in Afghanistan, fighting Taliban in the Helmand Province. He proved to be an excellent soldier, working well with his unit and remaining calm under fire even though his unit was never expected to be engaged in combat.

He then returned to Afghanistan in 2008 with the same unit, receiving awards for both his gallantry and his tactical proficiency. Under heavy recommendation from his commander, he volunteered for selection for the Special Air Service. To his surprise, he flew through their selection, and has been operating with them ever since.

In the SAS, Carrington flew through the ranks, reaching Sergeant in a matter of years. He participated heavily in the 2011 Libyan Civil War, and was regarded as a nigh-legend among operators for his role in the fall of Tripoli. He received Warrior of the Year commendations from the Regiment in 2012, before deploying to Syria as an advance unit in the elevating situation there. He was conducting raids on ISIS supply lines when he was recruited by XCOM, and is now ready to face an entirely new threat.

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Postby The Moscow Metro Red Line » Wed Sep 14, 2016 1:37 pm

What are the times for the Mission and the people back at base? I guess I'm sort of confused regarding where's where's. So in Mexico it is in the afternoon or the dead of night? At the base what time is it in relation to the mission. Does the technical demonstration occur as the mission is going on or some other time?

Also I have a question regarding missions and their country of origin. If we have an soldier from France and the mission occurs in France, does the inclusion of the soldier mean that the ground team might have more back up? Like in the previous example, would we get help from the French Military because we have one of their soldiers in our ranks or would they still stand-idly by. It would be an interesting mission to rescue military personnel or those missions that happen to occur on or near military bases. I'm just thinking.
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Postby Beiarusia » Wed Sep 14, 2016 1:42 pm

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Postby Bentus » Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:25 pm

The Moscow Metro Red Line wrote:What are the times for the Mission and the people back at base? I guess I'm sort of confused regarding where's where's. So in Mexico it is in the afternoon or the dead of night? At the base what time is it in relation to the mission. Does the technical demonstration occur as the mission is going on or some other time?


Yeah, been wondering that too. At first I thought it was late at night with the timings on some of the initial mission posts. But afterwards I figured that it was actually the mid-to-late morning and decided just to role with that.
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Postby SaintB » Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:39 pm

The Moscow Metro Red Line wrote:What are the times for the Mission and the people back at base? I guess I'm sort of confused regarding where's where's. So in Mexico it is in the afternoon or the dead of night? At the base what time is it in relation to the mission. Does the technical demonstration occur as the mission is going on or some other time?

Also I have a question regarding missions and their country of origin. If we have an soldier from France and the mission occurs in France, does the inclusion of the soldier mean that the ground team might have more back up? Like in the previous example, would we get help from the French Military because we have one of their soldiers in our ranks or would they still stand-idly by. It would be an interesting mission to rescue military personnel or those missions that happen to occur on or near military bases. I'm just thinking.

Both areas are in the same timezone. The mission started at 11:45 so it would be between 12 and 12:30 by now.

For the second question I would think not, XCom's mission is very much hush hush.
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Postby SaintB » Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:47 pm

Theodosiya wrote:How long does it takes to flank the aliens from the apartment?

Probably 5 or 6 minutes, it looks like a hundred meters or so... thats not taking into account you'd need to be on the lookout for more Xeno ambushes as you roll through the allies.
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