Dixie's Triumph [A-H] [CANCELLED] [OOC]

[Austria and Bavaria]

Hey, if this is gonna be a wacky RP... could the 1768 slave revolt in Montserrat have been successful? Essentially, it would have changed history almost not at all, except that it would allow for the island to become more prosperous and therefore a good base for the Caribbean Revolution.

Sure.

A powerful Alaskan empire just doesn't sound right, even for an RP where the Confederates merged with the Mexican Empire and made French the language of the upper class

My issue with that is that Alaska is a theocracy.

Not sure about Modena ruling Italy. They were closely aligned with the Habsbugs IRL, and were a pretty minor power. If you can come up with a convincing backstory I may allow it though.

This post literally marks the first time anyone has said Modena on this thread.

Sorry, Montferrat. I had them confused. I also checked, and the Palagios Dynasty has been dead for centuries.

[Arana]

Hey, if this is gonna be a wacky RP... could the 1768 slave revolt in Montserrat have been successful? Essentially, it would have changed history almost not at all, except that it would allow for the island to become more prosperous and therefore a good base for the Caribbean Revolution.

Sure.

A powerful Alaskan empire just doesn't sound right, even for an RP where the Confederates merged with the Mexican Empire and made French the language of the upper class

My issue with that is that Alaska is a theocracy.

This post literally marks the first time anyone has said Modena on this thread.

Sorry, Montferrat. I had them confused. I also checked, and the Palagios Dynasty has been dead for centuries.

Yay! So, basically, I plan on having Montserrat become an Irish Creole monarchy, form a union with the Kingdom of Haiti, the two of them build up a ton without Europe exploiting them, and then they prepare to bring freedom to African and Irish (and also Spanish I guess) everywhere!

[Sanabel]

So who would be willing to ally Italy?

Depends on a lot of factors. I'll wait till I see the app.

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

Hey, if this is gonna be a wacky RP... could the 1768 slave revolt in Montserrat have been successful? Essentially, it would have changed history almost not at all, except that it would allow for the island to become more prosperous and therefore a good base for the Caribbean Revolution.

Sure.

A powerful Alaskan empire just doesn't sound right, even for an RP where the Confederates merged with the Mexican Empire and made French the language of the upper class

My issue with that is that Alaska is a theocracy.

This post literally marks the first time anyone has said Modena on this thread.

Sorry, Montferrat. I had them confused. I also checked, and the Palagios Dynasty has been dead for centuries.

Not exactly. It had descendants in other lines, and there is a bastard line extant to this day, the only one based in Italy, and the one I plan to use.

[Austria and Bavaria]

You're leaving out the key part. It happened in 20 years.

Even crazier.

It also works as, quite literally, a lingua franca, since one half speaks English, the other Spanish, but the upper-class of both has some knowledge of French.

[Austria and Bavaria]

Sure.



My issue with that is that Alaska is a theocracy.


Sorry, Montferrat. I had them confused. I also checked, and the Palagios Dynasty has been dead for centuries.

Not exactly. It had descendants in other lines, and there is a bastard line extant to this day, the only one based in Italy, and the one I plan to use.

They haven't ruled anything since the 16th Century.

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

Even crazier.

It also works as, quite literally, a lingua franca, since one half speaks English, the other Spanish, but the upper-class of both has some knowledge of French.

I apologize that there is not an English page I can link you, but yes, the Palaiologos did indeed keep going, just without land.

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

Not exactly. It had descendants in other lines, and there is a bastard line extant to this day, the only one based in Italy, and the one I plan to use.

They haven't ruled anything since the 16th Century.

You don't need to start as a ruler to become one.

[Sanabel]

They haven't ruled anything since the 16th Century.

You don't need to start as a ruler to become one.

Frckin roosted

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

Also, by the way, the Kingdom of Italy historically seized Rome in 1870. Just saying.

[The Portland Territory]

Hm, I'm considering on making Brazil join in on the Race for Africa

[Austria and Bavaria]

I know this is a crazy af RP, but I just don't see the Palaiologos returning, just as I woudn't see the Hohenstaufens or Salians returning in Germany.

Also, by the way, the Kingdom of Italy historically seized Rome in 1870. Just saying.

I know, this is alt-history.

[Arana]

To the Irish fellows in Africa... care to ally with An Ríocht na Montsarat?

[Austria and Bavaria]

To the Irish fellows in Africa... care to ally with An Ríocht na Montsarat?

So I take it you are no longer reserving Haiti?

[Duestchstien]

I know this is a crazy af RP, but I just don't see the Palaiologos returning, just as I woudn't see the Hohenstaufens or Salians returning in Germany.

Also, by the way, the Kingdom of Italy historically seized Rome in 1870. Just saying.

I know, this is alt-history.

Would it possible for an Alaskan Nation to become somewhat strong in this RP.

[Arana]

To the Irish fellows in Africa... care to ally with An Ríocht na Montsarat?

So I take it you are no longer reserving Haiti?

Circa 1780s, the Kingdom of Montserrat formed. Early 1800s, the Kingdom of Haiti formed (real life thing). Around the 1830s the two countries joined together in a royal union. So now, long story short, Montserrat owns Haiti.

[Zostra]

So I take it you are no longer reserving Haiti?

Circa 1780s, the Kingdom of Montserrat formed. Early 1800s, the Kingdom of Haiti formed (real life thing). Around the 1830s the two countries joined together in a royal union. So now, long story short, Montserrat owns Haiti.

I feel like with Haiti being so much larger and populous, it would come to dominate Montserrat, not the other way around.

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

I know this is a crazy af RP, but I just don't see the Palaiologos returning, just as I woudn't see the Hohenstaufens or Salians returning in Germany.

Also, by the way, the Kingdom of Italy historically seized Rome in 1870. Just saying.

I know, this is alt-history.

There's a living cadet branch based in Italy that still exists today, Italy had plenty of pre-existing divisions that led to local leaders gaining their own following and support, coups are a matter of life in monarchical politics. In a world where perhaps the most libertarian and government-distrusting country with a strong republican tradition shall peacefully allow monarchy and political union with Mexico who had just recently fought a civil war due to popular dissatisfaction with authoritarianism to exist, I think it is not entirely outlandish for a member of a minor wealthy family to gain a position at the imperial court and abuse both ethnic divisions and the Germanic origin of the ruling dynasty to gather enough people to coup in exchange for a few promises in return.

[Arana]

Circa 1780s, the Kingdom of Montserrat formed. Early 1800s, the Kingdom of Haiti formed (real life thing). Around the 1830s the two countries joined together in a royal union. So now, long story short, Montserrat owns Haiti.

I feel like with Haiti being so much larger and populous, it would come to dominate Montserrat, not the other way around.

Oh, without a doubt, the economic and population strength of the kingdom is on Haiti. The country is FAR more Haiti than Montserrat. But come on, the first independent Irish nation in the world since the English took over isn't going to let itself stop existing.

[Duestchstien]

I know this is a crazy af RP, but I just don't see the Palaiologos returning, just as I woudn't see the Hohenstaufens or Salians returning in Germany.



I know, this is alt-history.

There's a living cadet branch based in Italy that still exists today, Italy had plenty of pre-existing divisions that led to local leaders gaining their own following and support, coups are a matter of life in monarchical politics. In a world where perhaps the most libertarian and government-distrusting country with a strong republican tradition shall peacefully allow monarchy and political union with Mexico who had just recently fought a civil war due to popular dissatisfaction with authoritarianism to exist, I think it is not entirely outlandish for a member of a minor wealthy family to gain a position at the imperial court and abuse both ethnic divisions and the Germanic origin of the ruling dynasty to gather enough people to coup in exchange for a few promises in return.

But do you think it's possible for Alaska to get a population of 65-100,000 people.

[Zostra]

I feel like with Haiti being so much larger and populous, it would come to dominate Montserrat, not the other way around.

Oh, without a doubt, the economic and population strength of the kingdom is on Haiti. The country is FAR more Haiti than Montserrat. But come on, the first independent Irish nation in the world since the English took over isn't going to let itself stop existing.

But you wrote that "Montserrat owns Haiti," which is different than a union between two sovereign countries.

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

There's a living cadet branch based in Italy that still exists today, Italy had plenty of pre-existing divisions that led to local leaders gaining their own following and support, coups are a matter of life in monarchical politics. In a world where perhaps the most libertarian and government-distrusting country with a strong republican tradition shall peacefully allow monarchy and political union with Mexico who had just recently fought a civil war due to popular dissatisfaction with authoritarianism to exist, I think it is not entirely outlandish for a member of a minor wealthy family to gain a position at the imperial court and abuse both ethnic divisions and the Germanic origin of the ruling dynasty to gather enough people to coup in exchange for a few promises in return.

But do you think it's possible for Alaska to get a population of 65-100,000 people.

Not sure, if simply because it doesn't have much really there to support a large enough economy as an independent state. The soil is frozen and/or rocky, which greatly hinders attempts at farming as well.

[Arana]

Oh, without a doubt, the economic and population strength of the kingdom is on Haiti. The country is FAR more Haiti than Montserrat. But come on, the first independent Irish nation in the world since the English took over isn't going to let itself stop existing.

But you wrote that "Montserrat owns Haiti," which is different than a union between two sovereign countries.

The Kingdom of Montserrat owns Haiti. The union eventually ended with the crown of Montserrat inheriting the crown of Haiti

[Duestchstien]

But do you think it's possible for Alaska to get a population of 65-100,000 people.

Not sure, if simply because it doesn't have much really there to support a large enough economy as an independent state. The soil is frozen and/or rocky, which greatly hinders attempts at farming as well.

True however with a lot of fertilizer and good plows farming could be enough, and fishing and hunting are also viable forms of food. The nations primary food source would be meat and fish with a small amount of vegetables and Fruits in the nation. So the food option would be taken care of. And the nation does have a viable economy, it has Mountains to mine, Oil to be used for gas lamps and such. Lots of lumber, a good amount of ivory from polar bears, and whales for Whailing. So the nation would also be able to get a viable economy. The only real IRL reason the place wasn't inhabited much was because the Russians where to busy else where, how ever if it's own nation the country could be filled with, Japanese, Chinese, Canadian, Russian, and American Imigrants as well as the native population.

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

Not sure, if simply because it doesn't have much really there to support a large enough economy as an independent state. The soil is frozen and/or rocky, which greatly hinders attempts at farming as well.

True however with a lot of fertilizer and good plows farming could be enough, and fishing and hunting are also viable forms of food. The nations primary food source would be meat and fish with a small amount of vegetables and Fruits in the nation. So the food option would be taken care of. And the nation does have a viable economy, it has Mountains to mine, Oil to be used for gas lamps and such. Lots of lumber, a good amount of ivory from polar bears, and whales for Whailing. So the nation would also be able to get a viable economy. The only real IRL reason the place wasn't inhabited much was because the Russians where to busy else where, how ever if it's own nation the country could be filled with, Japanese, Chinese, Canadian, Russian, and American Imigrants as well as the native population.

But how viable of a source of food is meat to actually sustain a large population? If you over-hunt, your supply will exponentially decrease until it reaches extinction.