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Should the number of Major Nations be limited?

Yes, only a few should be Major Nations
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No, There should not be a limit
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The Moscow Metro Red Line
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Founded: Nov 15, 2014
Democratic Socialists

Postby The Moscow Metro Red Line » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:10 pm

The Krastikans (Or the Red People) are open to interaction now. But I'll return after errands to respond.
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Alinora
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Founded: Jun 10, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Alinora » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:22 pm

The Moscow Metro Red Line wrote:The Krastikans (Or the Red People) are open to interaction now. But I'll return after errands to respond.

I'm going to attack them for humanitarian reasons

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The Greater Gambia
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Founded: Oct 16, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby The Greater Gambia » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:28 pm

Made a quick little post bringing in some guards for some fun.
Quote of the- Oh, I don't know how long I'm gonna have this on here.
"It's all good in the hood!" I replied cheerfully. But deep down, I knew that there were many socio-economic problems in the hood.

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Ordei
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Founded: Jul 17, 2016
Ex-Nation

A Reexplanation/Remind of my Job (same stuff', better explai

Postby Ordei » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:31 pm

Are there any matters of lore, or continuity I must be concerned with?

I also must remind everyone that it is in the best interest of the RP for you to use research for anything even remotely connected to new technology, or new ways of assembling technology. It is also absolutely mandatory for all research, otherwise it wouldn't be there. If you have problem getting a time, I will contact the Co-OPs personally (there are a few that always respond to me promptly, though I occasionally whine :P).

I also encourage everyone to aid me by self-policing, and telegramming me with concerns, or evidence that the RP, its lore, or its continuity are somehow being threatened, abused, or anything of that type. That means that if you think someone is doing something bad to contact me, and I will collaborate with all parties to try and find a solution so that administrative action such as warnings, or bannings doesn't take pla e, as is my job as librarian, which includes trying to cobtain anything at all to do wiyh data, lore, and continuity.

If you see numberwanking, or unlikely deployments of troops, please do not be aggressive, and simply contact myself so I may check numbers, or the Co-OPs for the same result, with the addition of administrative action by the Co-OPs.

Please remember that I will not make rulings, in any way, shape, or form. I have only the right to advise, inform, disagree with, and interact with administration.

As all of these fall within data, I can do what I do by advising staff on how to act, and commubicating with everyone from each arty involved, to staff to avoid more unfortunate incidents.

Again, if you want an innediate ruling, explainto a staff member with administrative powers. I am simply here to try and keep track of things, and helpnto make sure things don't escalate, and will always communicate everything, and anything to staff.

This method has been written after realizing what my lack of doing my assigbed job would do. We would have no buffer against fighting, or arguments, and no protection against numberwanking.
I'm currently on a mobile. Please excuse any shortness, typos, and errors.

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Ordei
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Founded: Jul 17, 2016
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Postby Ordei » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:36 pm

Alinora wrote:
The Moscow Metro Red Line wrote:The Krastikans (Or the Red People) are open to interaction now. But I'll return after errands to respond.

I'm going to attack them for humanitarian reasons


They're 75,000 lightyears away from the rest of civilization. My highly advanced sensors will pick you up, and intercept fairly fast


To Everyone Else: If you see someone doing something they haven't done before, don't immediately think negatively. There are many technologies I haven't used, such as my Shade units, and there are "official secrets" of the state. Just for further reference, my Shade units wear special exoskeletons with enhanced stealth capabilities, and the capacity to literally hide in matter, shadows, and energy, and also to transport between mirrors... There aren't many, cpared to the rest of my numbers, because the technology is ridiculously expensive to maintain, and to build. Even with replicators, things aren't free.
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Maljaratas
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Founded: Apr 25, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Maljaratas » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:37 pm

Zeon Refounded wrote:
Maljaratas wrote:Anyone want interactions? I'm making a post, current one on the list are Allinora and Ordei. One of the ones I'm looking at is Moscow. Anyone want an interaction.


Are you at the Gala?

Yes
"There are decades when nothing happens. There are weeks where decades happen" -Vladimir Lenin

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Alinora
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Founded: Jun 10, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Alinora » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:38 pm

Ordei wrote:
Alinora wrote:I'm going to attack them for humanitarian reasons


They're 75,000 lightyears away from the rest of civilization. My highly advanced sensors will pick you up, and intercept fairly fast/quote]
You have no reason to do that lmao

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Ordei
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Founded: Jul 17, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Ordei » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:41 pm

Alinora wrote:
Ordei wrote:


They're 75,000 lightyears away from the rest of civilization. My highly advanced sensors will pick you up, and intercept fairly fast/quote]
You have no reason to do that lmao


The Red People are clients of the Sun.
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Ordei
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Postby Ordei » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:41 pm

By clients I mean that we will have our hand forced if you harm them.
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Zeon Refounded
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Ex-Nation

Postby Zeon Refounded » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:42 pm

Maljaratas wrote:
Zeon Refounded wrote:
Are you at the Gala?

Yes


I would like to meet then. Are you going to do the approach?
SIEG ZEON!

Minor factbook retconning and reformatting occurring.

Dalvius wrote:"For those religious people worried about being damned to hell for the sin of exploding everything? Well, a nuclear blast will literally burn away the worlds sins! Oh yeah!!!"

Valcouria wrote:Let's get one thing straight; America is not a democracy. America is a republic. We elect representatives to serve our interests in the government. And we elect them in a democratic fashion. If it were a pure democracy, then all 315 million people would essentially be responsible for every facet of government behavior and direction.

With regard to the Electoral College... (rest of comment available in the thread)

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The Orson Empire
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Founded: Mar 20, 2012
Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Orson Empire » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:44 pm

Gambia, if you want those characters to survive, you better get them out of there quickly. The ship is about to blow.

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Maljaratas
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Ex-Nation

Postby Maljaratas » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:44 pm

Zeon Refounded wrote:
Maljaratas wrote:Yes


I would like to meet then. Are you going to do the approach?

In a manner of speaking. I'm going to just have have my delegation spread out - they are indistinguishable and controlled by the same mind after all.
"There are decades when nothing happens. There are weeks where decades happen" -Vladimir Lenin

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Zeon Refounded
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Postby Zeon Refounded » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:45 pm

Ordei wrote:The Red People are clients of the Sun.


What if some of them were to, say, attack the Tagali?
SIEG ZEON!

Minor factbook retconning and reformatting occurring.

Dalvius wrote:"For those religious people worried about being damned to hell for the sin of exploding everything? Well, a nuclear blast will literally burn away the worlds sins! Oh yeah!!!"

Valcouria wrote:Let's get one thing straight; America is not a democracy. America is a republic. We elect representatives to serve our interests in the government. And we elect them in a democratic fashion. If it were a pure democracy, then all 315 million people would essentially be responsible for every facet of government behavior and direction.

With regard to the Electoral College... (rest of comment available in the thread)

Gundam Role-play. Create your own nation!

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Zeon Refounded
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Ex-Nation

Postby Zeon Refounded » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:46 pm

Maljaratas wrote:In a manner of speaking. I'm going to just have have my delegation spread out - they are indistinguishable and controlled by the same mind after all.


So, if you decide to introduce yourself to Zeon, the man in the black uniform is available.
SIEG ZEON!

Minor factbook retconning and reformatting occurring.

Dalvius wrote:"For those religious people worried about being damned to hell for the sin of exploding everything? Well, a nuclear blast will literally burn away the worlds sins! Oh yeah!!!"

Valcouria wrote:Let's get one thing straight; America is not a democracy. America is a republic. We elect representatives to serve our interests in the government. And we elect them in a democratic fashion. If it were a pure democracy, then all 315 million people would essentially be responsible for every facet of government behavior and direction.

With regard to the Electoral College... (rest of comment available in the thread)

Gundam Role-play. Create your own nation!

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Ordei
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Founded: Jul 17, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Ordei » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:51 pm

In addition, we police every major, or at risk sector of the Danger Lands, aka: the galactic north, and monitor every parsec.

Not all nations there are our client states, but the entire region is considered under protection of the Sun
An approaching war fleet would be met with superior night as soon as they were detected

Zeon Refounded wrote:
Ordei wrote:The Red People are clients of the Sun.


What if some of them were to, say, attack the Tagali?


If support was deemed to be required for the survival of the Red People, we would intervene. Of course, you might be able to avoid that by steering clear of the Danger Lands, and perhaps trying to forge a treaty. We also don't allow frequent warmongering, or the breaking of our laws from our client states, though it's hard to find anything except for the genocide, or extinction of three major races that would cause us to take legal action. We will, of course, try to hold them back in the form of trying to keep them reasonable, but the Krastikan leader is batshit crazy, and we are more concerned with the Danger Lands than how everyone outside is faring.
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Maljaratas
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Founded: Apr 25, 2015
Ex-Nation

Postby Maljaratas » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:54 pm

So. My Forklis are now spreading out over the Gala, and anyone is free to interact with any of them without prior permission or such. For those needing something to respond to, this can count. Cheers! :)
"There are decades when nothing happens. There are weeks where decades happen" -Vladimir Lenin

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Ordei
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Founded: Jul 17, 2016
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Postby Ordei » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:55 pm

Basically, unless you request a mediator, galactic peace keeper, or forge a treaty with the Red Peolle, you're screwed. The galactic peacekeepers are available to everyone, BTW. Stability is a major concern of the Sun, but you may have to allow long operations during major wars, or until some sort of non-nation threat is extinguished (rebels, pirates, plagues, famine, anything really).
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Ordei
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Postby Ordei » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:55 pm

Maljaratas wrote:So. My Forklis are now spreading out over the Gala, and anyone is free to interact with any of them without prior permission or such. For those needing something to respond to, this can count. Cheers! :)


I will make another short response.
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Nazeroth
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Posts: 5060
Founded: Nov 16, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Nazeroth » Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:39 pm

Im moving into my new home and only just got my pc back. I want to join but id like to know what civ types are missing.
Comically Evil Member of the Anti-Democracy League
Government: Tyrannical Feudal Despotism
"Crush your enemies, see them driven before you..."
"The meek will inherit nothing..."
"Behold and despair fools"
"We will sail to a billion worlds...we will sail until every light has been extinguished"

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Plzen
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Founded: Mar 19, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Plzen » Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:39 pm

Ordei wrote:You mentioned problem with AI sentience earlier. Corruption is a problem wherever a sapient mind is at work.

Corruption always involves a motivation. The target's desires.

The AIs and robots are programmed to feel pleasure in completing their assigned duty, and nothing else. How do you plan to corrupt that drive?

The "possibility of AI revolt" I have discussed is these robots becoming liberated from these programmed emotional constraints. The robots revising their own programming to improve themselves and accidentally messing around with their own emotions.

Ordei wrote:In addition, I'd love for you to deal with royal lawyers. Some of them are insane because they arepower crazed, and might have your AI 'assassinated'. It'd be easyenouh.

Sure, but what do you expect to achieve? This is a completely automated system composed of autonomous units. Amy discrepancy will be noticed very quickly by a very large number of entities.

Ordei wrote:Plzen, how about I make an offer for your nation. I give you the tech that lets your tech resist many forms of brain-to-computer interfaces, and we hit it off from there with a few favors I want. It's either that, or you're left exposed tl a tech we'll soon be selling on the galactic markets, and black markets in floods.

You don't want your natiom's army hacked by sentient, terrorist AI, or simply terrorists, do you?

Brain-to-computer interfaces to hack into our systems?

:eyebrow:

Computer security systems still exist, you know. Amy input that should not be there will be noticed as a discrepancy.
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The Greater Gambia
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Founded: Oct 16, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby The Greater Gambia » Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:40 pm

Nazeroth wrote:Im moving into my new home and only just got my pc back. I want to join but id like to know what civ types are missing.


Pretty much anything, just no more humans.
Quote of the- Oh, I don't know how long I'm gonna have this on here.
"It's all good in the hood!" I replied cheerfully. But deep down, I knew that there were many socio-economic problems in the hood.

RP's I'm hosting:
Interstellar Ascendancy: an FT Nation Rp


Evil Pootoo Bird of The Pub

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Alinora
Minister
 
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Founded: Jun 10, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Alinora » Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:46 pm

Gambia, my TG, it's important.

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Nazeroth
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Founded: Nov 16, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Nazeroth » Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:46 pm

The Greater Gambia wrote:
Nazeroth wrote:Im moving into my new home and only just got my pc back. I want to join but id like to know what civ types are missing.


Pretty much anything, just no more humans.


K i think im going to a "chaos god" type faction, a powerful eldritch interdimensional entity manipulating mortal pawns.
Comically Evil Member of the Anti-Democracy League
Government: Tyrannical Feudal Despotism
"Crush your enemies, see them driven before you..."
"The meek will inherit nothing..."
"Behold and despair fools"
"We will sail to a billion worlds...we will sail until every light has been extinguished"

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Plzen
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Founded: Mar 19, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Plzen » Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:49 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:What loopholes?

Plzen wrote:In the event that a conclusion of a war involves the transfer of a populated celestial body from the defeated to the victor,

Assuming it involves the transfer of a population and not the extermination or subjugation.
the victorious power shall assume responsibility for the cost of relocating the population of that celestial body,

Doesn't say the ride has to be comfortable. Or safe.
and as much of the planet's infrastructure as is necessary to guarantee the continued survival of the population,

Guess they won't be needing these factories. Or technology. Primitivism ho!
to a suitable replacement.

Like a planet with a lucrative slave business or an uninhabitable world with a few airtight habitats set up.

No law is without its loopholes. :)

In this case, the first loophole is a discrepancy arising from this setting. In the sci-fi world that I took this from, there were other regulations handling genocide and such.

The rest are entirely intended features. What is "guarantee the survival of the population"? It certainly should include life support. Does than mean that it includes the industrial capacity to maintain life support? The infrastructure to maintain that?

What is "suitable" in suitable replacement? Does it need to be habitable or near-habitable for the target species? Should it be as easily accessible from the defeated power's territory? Does it need to be of similar size?

The "cost" of relocation? Does that include only the direct cost of transportation? Or can it be interpreted more expansively?

They are whatever the side with more lawyers says they are, that's what.

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Ordei
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Founded: Jul 17, 2016
Ex-Nation

Postby Ordei » Wed Aug 03, 2016 7:01 pm

Plzen wrote:
Ordei wrote:You mentioned problem with AI sentience earlier. Corruption is a problem wherever a sapient mind is at work.

Corruption always involves a motivation. The target's desires.

The AIs and robots are programmed to feel pleasure in completing their assigned duty, and nothing else. How do you plan to corrupt that drive?

The "possibility of AI revolt" I have discussed is these robots becoming liberated from these programmed emotional constraints. The robots revising their own programming to improve themselves and accidentally messing around with their own emotions.

Ordei wrote:In addition, I'd love for you to deal with royal lawyers. Some of them are insane because they arepower crazed, and might have your AI 'assassinated'. It'd be easyenouh.

Sure, but what do you expect to achieve? This is a completely automated system composed of autonomous units. Amy discrepancy will be noticed very quickly by a very large number of entities.

Ordei wrote:Plzen, how about I make an offer for your nation. I give you the tech that lets your tech resist many forms of brain-to-computer interfaces, and we hit it off from there with a few favors I want. It's either that, or you're left exposed tl a tech we'll soon be selling on the galactic markets, and black markets in floods.

You don't want your natiom's army hacked by sentient, terrorist AI, or simply terrorists, do you?

Brain-to-computer interfaces to hack into our systems?

:eyebrow:

Computer security systems still exist, you know. Amy input that should not be there will be noticed as a discrepancy.


One individual, or grouo of individuals with asophisticated the Ordeian brain-to-computer interfaces could hack everything connected to a network in mere moments, and the discrepanchy will not appear because the computer will never know it's there.

You clearly have no idea what a nightmare these are for cybersecurity, since your security systems are rendered immediately obsolete.

Of course, civilians don't have access to that level of technology, but the Ordeian state will probably sell it on the black market, with the hardware only protecting Ordeian interests.
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