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Postby Prolieum » Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:51 pm

Kuznetsov sighed. "Senator, the NSA operates as it does because of "mass warrants." Not only would your situation not happen, but you cannot try someone in a criminal court off of a Constitutional Amendment-that is not how the law works in the slightest."
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:52 pm

Tallahassee News Station wrote:What does "enforcement" of the fourth amendment mean, Governor Danders?

"It means we need to appoint judges on the Supreme Court who will uphold the constitutional liberties guaranteed to our citizens enforcing that with their decisions to create a legal precedent, that is why this election is so important because whoever wins this November gets to determine which direction our country goes and we need to make sure that people who violate it like Sheriff Arpaio are brought to justice, and thrown into prison for their horrendous treatment of minorities."

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Postby Prolieum » Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:52 pm

"Senator, if you do not know what you are talking about, I would advise you to just stay quiet on the issue, rather than making a fool out of yourself."
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:53 pm

Governor Danders, would these Constitution-supporting judges defend the First and Second Amendments in the same way?
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Postby Argentarino » Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:55 pm

Prolieum wrote:"Senator, if you do not know what you are talking about, I would advise you to just stay quiet on the issue, rather than making a fool out of yourself."

"Yes, I'm sure that you would enjoy it if I kept my, as you say, sodomite mouth shut, Governor. Sorry to disappoint you."
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:56 pm

Tallahassee News Station wrote:Governor Danders, would these Constitution-supporting judges defend the First and Second Amendments in the same way?

"I completely support the 1st amendment of course they should support it in the same way. I am also a supporter of the 2nd amendment I support the right to bear arms, but I believe that we should have common sense gun measures such as a one month waiting period among others, I think that the majority of the problems of this country's crime rate does not come from guns but bad policing. I promise to bring the same type of law enforcement that worked well in Vermont to the federal level."

"The worst form of inequality is to make unequal things equal."
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"Even the striving for equality by means of a directed economy can result only in an officially enforced inequality - an authoritarian determination of the status of each individual in the new hierarchical order. "-Friedrich August von Hayek
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Vaquas
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Postby Vaquas » Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:57 pm

Immediately after Kuznetsov's remark
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Postby Prolieum » Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:57 pm

"Senator, if you want to throw a hissy fit because I used a term that isn't politically correct, then by all means, do so, but if you are trying to run for President, you need to learn how to govern, and actually learn policy, and how the law works. I am sorry if I hurt your feelings, Senator-but the country doesn't care about feelings. Focus on that if you want to. I'll focus on actually preparing to run this country."
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:58 pm

We'll get back to that in a moment, Governor. I think we'll allow our feuding friends to have their moment.
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Postby Jovuistan » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:00 pm

Prolieum wrote:"Senator, if you want to throw a hissy fit because I used a term that isn't politically correct, then by all means, do so, but if you are trying to run for President, you need to learn how to govern, and actually learn policy, and how the law works. I am sorry if I hurt your feelings, Senator-but the country doesn't care about feelings. Focus on that if you want to. I'll focus on actually preparing to run this country."

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Postby Argentarino » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:02 pm

Tallahassee News Station wrote:We'll get back to that in a moment, Governor. I think we'll allow our feuding friends to have their moment.

"On the contrary, I have no intention of humoring the Governor or her personal attacks. I've been through worse than that, it'll take a lot more than her calling me a sodomite to lower me to her base attacks. I hope to hear what Governor Danders has to say, and I will not interrupt the good Governor during his time."
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Vaquas
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Postby Vaquas » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:03 pm

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Postby Prolieum » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:07 pm

"Senator, I called you something you did not like. I am sorry that you found that term offensive. Next time, educate me on if you prefer the words "homosexual" or "gay." But what you are doing here is something worse than a slip of the tongue. You are using your orientation as a shield to cover your lack of policies. You fundamentally fail to understand how the Constitution works, or how our legal system works. You have no policies that you have not stolen from me. Your experience is a year of doing nothing but blocking our military from helping to catch terrorists. You're a rookie with no experience, no record, and no ability to defend yourself. You want to be President, Senator? Then start acting like it."
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:08 pm

"Right, that's enough of that. Governor Danders, the Second Amendment clearly states that the right to bear arms "Shall not be infringed." Don't you think your policies restricting ownership and delaying law-abiding citizens from getting weapons constitute infringement?
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Postby Argentarino » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:11 pm

Prolieum wrote:"Senator, I called you something you did not like. I am sorry that you found that term offensive. Next time, educate me on if you prefer the words "homosexual" or "gay." But what you are doing here is something worse than a slip of the tongue. You are using your orientation as a shield to cover your lack of policies. You fundamentally fail to understand how the Constitution works, or how our legal system works. You have no policies that you have not stolen from me. Your experience is a year of doing nothing but blocking our military from helping to catch terrorists. You're a rookie with no experience, no record, and no ability to defend yourself. You want to be President, Senator? Then start acting like it."


"Governor, my policies are my own, don't flatter yourself. Second, our military doesn't catch terrorists, a little thing called Posse Comitatus. Educate yourself, Governor. You want to be President? Act like it. Apologies, I had to return a comment. Apologies for the interruption."
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:12 pm

Tallahassee News Station wrote:"Right, that's enough of that. Governor Danders, the Second Amendment clearly states that the right to bear arms "Shall not be infringed." Don't you think your policies restricting ownership and delaying law-abiding citizens from getting weapons constitute infringement?

"I do not at all, you are still allowed to get weapons all I am saying is that I want you to wait a while before getting gun. You are still allowed to have a gun, but this is to discourage criminals. These waiting periods are nothing more than a minor inconvenience for the good folk of this country, but it will cripple certain crime organizations. "

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"Even the striving for equality by means of a directed economy can result only in an officially enforced inequality - an authoritarian determination of the status of each individual in the new hierarchical order. "-Friedrich August von Hayek
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Postby Prolieum » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:15 pm

"I'll agree with the Governor, and go a step further. The Second Amendment guarantees its right to a militia. We respect law-abiding gun owners, but we take efforts to keep guns out of the hands of criminals, and to ensure that military-style automatic weapons are not made commonly available. And, unlike Governor Danders, I've actually signed these laws, and because of that, New Hampshire has the lowest murder rate in the United States."
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Postby Tallahassee News Station » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:17 pm

"A question for everyone. What do you think is the single greatest foreign threat to the United States today?"
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Postby Prolieum » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:21 pm

ISIS. It is undoubtedly ISIS. They are the only foreign power that has struck us here in the homeland. Russia, China-perhaps problems of the future. ISIS is a problem now. San Bernandino. Boston. More to come. They are a threat to our citizens, and a threat to our moral standing. They practice slavery, prostitution, execute homosexuals, murder as they please, destroy all they touch."

"We are not the world's policeman, and I don't believe in getting ourselves involved in foreign wars or regime change-but ISIS is neither. They are a blight on humanity, a threat to our people, and a threat that we, along with our allies, and the international community, will stop."
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Postby Argentarino » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:21 pm

Tallahassee News Station wrote:"A question for everyone. What do you think is the single greatest foreign threat to the United States today?"

"In regards to state actors, I'd have to say the rising tensions with Russia is a significant foreign threat. We're butting heads on Syria and Ukraine, not to mention the allegations of the Russian government carrying out cyber attacks on our institutions, whether to cause confusion or to steal intelligence, are all very troubling. In regards to non-state actors, I'd have to give that title to ISIS. Looking past their territorial holdings in Iraq and Syria and the capabilities they have in that region, they have a concerning appeal among young people who feel disenchanted or alone, which they can use to manage terror attacks in the US and against our interests abroad."
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:22 pm

Tallahassee News Station wrote:"A question for everyone. What do you think is the single greatest foreign threat to the United States today?"

"It is China, they have a rapidly ballooning economy and their military spending is rapidly catching up to our's. On top of that they routinely threaten our allies with military action and occasionally they follow through with their actions. If we allow these actions to continue we are going to be in for a very bad time. We need to send a firm message to China that bullying smaller countries is not ok, and if they continue we will slap sanctions on their economy. However, there is another reason why China is so dangerous that has nothing to do with its military or our's. It is the fact that Chinese manufacturing is killing us and their illegal economic policies, it is taking manufacturing jobs of the USA. The most notable of which is the illegal subsidies on steel, and their currency manipulation. I promise that my administration will label China a currency manipulator when I am president, and we will slap tariffs on Chinese made steel if they do not immediately cease and desist their illegal activities."

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"Even the striving for equality by means of a directed economy can result only in an officially enforced inequality - an authoritarian determination of the status of each individual in the new hierarchical order. "-Friedrich August von Hayek
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Postby Prolieum » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:24 pm

"I'm not aware of China killing our citizens, Governor."
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:25 pm

Prolieum wrote:"I'm not aware of China killing our citizens, Governor."

"I very much thought that the question was about state actors, but if it is also about non state actors than I would agree with your assessment that ISIS is the greatest threat that we face."

"The worst form of inequality is to make unequal things equal."
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"Even the striving for equality by means of a directed economy can result only in an officially enforced inequality - an authoritarian determination of the status of each individual in the new hierarchical order. "-Friedrich August von Hayek
Political Compass
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Postby Prolieum » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:26 pm

"I can agree with you there, Governor. Where I cannot agree is with you, Senator. I can't believe that you actually consider ISIS a great threat when you have been one of the ones blocking action against them."
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Postby Argentarino » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:30 pm

Prolieum wrote:"I can agree with you there, Governor. Where I cannot agree is with you, Senator. I can't believe that you actually consider ISIS a great threat when you have been one of the ones blocking action against them."

"Governor, there are ways to go after those terrorists without legitimizing them. I offered an AUMF, which not only deprives them of the legitimacy that comes with a declaration of war, which is usually reserved for state actors, but it also allows us to take action against them."
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