Rome: Iron and Rust (OOC)

[Albertae]

Hispania actually had a lot of sliver and olive oil (which was expensive) so it is rich.

Won't I have to mien that out and actually work to get it? I mean there won't be any riches to take after conquering Hispania right?

[Elepis]

Hispania actually had a lot of sliver and olive oil (which was expensive) so it is rich.

Won't I have to mien that out and actually work to get it? I mean there won't be any riches to take after conquering Hispania right?

There will be miner there already, still mining. Only the Legions have left Hispania, not everyone. And some soldiers must have stayed behind to keep peace in larger cities like Tarraco and Carthago Nova

[Elepis]

Hispania actually had a lot of sliver and olive oil (which was expensive) so it is rich.

Won't I have to mien that out and actually work to get it? I mean there won't be any riches to take after conquering Hispania right?

This is a very basic representation of wealth distriburion in Rome circa 14 CE (not sure of sources, so can't vouch for it)

http://brilliantmaps.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Per-capita-gdp-in-roman-times-according-to-maddison-1990-ppp-dollars1.jpg

This is a slimier graph, however with some differences (eg, Africa)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/GDP_regional_Ancient_Rome.png

As you can see, Hispania, especially Baectia is wealthy (from olives mainly, but also a large amount of silver and tin)

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

Won't I have to mien that out and actually work to get it? I mean there won't be any riches to take after conquering Hispania right?

This is a very basic representation of wealth distriburion in Rome circa 14 CE (not sure of sources, so can't vouch for it)

http://brilliantmaps.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Per-capita-gdp-in-roman-times-according-to-maddison-1990-ppp-dollars1.jpg

As you can see, Hispania, especially Baectia is wealthy (from olives mainly, but also a large amount of silver and tin)

The East is very wealthy due to spices, metals, and silk. Overall, though, it appears to simply state that places with cities are wealthy.

Except for Gaul. Gaul had multiple cities the size and quality of Rome (built mostly out of cobblestone, but with just as good infrastructure), but it was still dirt poor.

[Albertae]

Won't I have to mien that out and actually work to get it? I mean there won't be any riches to take after conquering Hispania right?

This is a very basic representation of wealth distriburion in Rome circa 14 CE (not sure of sources, so can't vouch for it)

http://brilliantmaps.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Per-capita-gdp-in-roman-times-according-to-maddison-1990-ppp-dollars1.jpg

This is a slimier graph, however with some differences (eg, Africa)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/GDP_regional_Ancient_Rome.png

As you can see, Hispania, especially Baectia is wealthy (from olives mainly, but also a large amount of silver and tin)

My lands are broke.. don't worry. I can make wonders happen.

This is a very basic representation of wealth distriburion in Rome circa 14 CE (not sure of sources, so can't vouch for it)

http://brilliantmaps.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Per-capita-gdp-in-roman-times-according-to-maddison-1990-ppp-dollars1.jpg

As you can see, Hispania, especially Baectia is wealthy (from olives mainly, but also a large amount of silver and tin)

The East is very wealthy due to spices, metals, and silk. Overall, though, it appears to simply state that places with cities are wealthy.

Except for Gaul. Gaul had multiple cities the size and quality of Rome (built mostly out of cobblestone, but with just as good infrastructure), but it was still dirt poor.

Who is more broke than my lands? I govern Dalmatia, Pannonia Superior, Pannonia Inferior. Pannonia a Superior is more filled out with cities so that's my main province.

[Elepis]

This is a very basic representation of wealth distriburion in Rome circa 14 CE (not sure of sources, so can't vouch for it)

http://brilliantmaps.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Per-capita-gdp-in-roman-times-according-to-maddison-1990-ppp-dollars1.jpg

This is a slimier graph, however with some differences (eg, Africa)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/GDP_regional_Ancient_Rome.png

As you can see, Hispania, especially Baectia is wealthy (from olives mainly, but also a large amount of silver and tin)

My lands are broke.. don't worry. I can make wonders happen.

The East is very wealthy due to spices, metals, and silk. Overall, though, it appears to simply state that places with cities are wealthy.

Except for Gaul. Gaul had multiple cities the size and quality of Rome (built mostly out of cobblestone, but with just as good infrastructure), but it was still dirt poor.

Who is more broke than my lands? I govern Dalmatia, Pannonia Superior, Pannonia Inferior. Pannonia a Superior is more filled out with cities so that's my main province.

All poor, mostly agriculture and they were only conquered recently so they will be ravaged from war with rebellions in them as well. Cities's wouldn't have time to grow either

[Albertae]

My lands are broke.. don't worry. I can make wonders happen.



Who is more broke than my lands? I govern Dalmatia, Pannonia Superior, Pannonia Inferior. Pannonia a Superior is more filled out with cities so that's my main province.

All poor, mostly agriculture and they were only conquered recently so they will be ravaged from war with rebellions in them as well. Cities's wouldn't have time to grow either

Yeah. /

[Elepis]

meant to get a post up today, but will do one tomorrow instead.

[Western Pacific Territories]

I have found a 4chan post written by Brutus himself.

[Lunas Legion]

Cappadocia is accepted, I need more stuff on personality and more than simply 'my generals' for other characters for Antony, and can I have a link to the Clodius app?

[Elepis]

Nation/Faction Name: Populares
Leader: Publius Clods (previously named Publius Claudius Pulcher)
Leader Age: 51
Leader Personality/Appearance:

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Other Characters in your faction (not named in the OP) and relevant details on them: None
Brief overview of faction/nation's recent history: In 54BC Publius was adopted into the Furies family and changed his name. Recently he passed a law that allowed a grain dole that would benefit the poor, a key part of his policies as a senator. Also his failed attempt to dispose of political opposition has lead to increased tensions.
RP example: My first experience

@Lunas ^

[Lunas Legion]

Seems reasonable enough, Clodius is accepted.

[Elepis]

@South Mauristan, how do you want to array the Consular forces in Italy? I was thinking Clodius would go north we 15,000 soldiers and fortify a city on Pompey's path to Rome while Crassus would stay in Rome with 10,000 solder + 5,000 Vigilies to defend the capital.

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

@South Mauristan, how do you want to array the Consular forces in Italy? I was thinking Clodius would go north we 15,000 soldiers and fortify a city on Pompey's path to Rome while Crassus would stay in Rome with 10,000 solder + 5,000 Vigilies to defend the capital.

Romanae itis domi!

[Lunas Legion]

Kisi is acceped as Parthia.

[Albertae]

Should I be at Massilia by now? Last post by me was at a city in Italia close to the border between Italia and Dalmatia(Illyricum).

[Elepis]

Kisi is acceped as Parthia.

I'm fucked

[Elepis]

Should I be at Massilia by now? Last post by me was at a city in Italia close to the border between Italia and Dalmatia(Illyricum).

IDK. It has only been 15 days so you would still be in northenr Italy probably

[South Mauristan]

@South Mauristan, how do you want to array the Consular forces in Italy? I was thinking Clodius would go north we 15,000 soldiers and fortify a city on Pompey's path to Rome while Crassus would stay in Rome with 10,000 solder + 5,000 Vigilies to defend the capital.

Sounds like a plan. Any ideas regarding size of Pompeys force? Also, any threat from Caesar in the south?!?

[Gharin]

I've decided to take a guess and say he's about 32 regarding the King, with his mother being in her late forties and his brother being....I don't know, 25. I mean it takes a while for them to decide on the King, and then Cicero comments that he has 'enemies everywhere in his court'...including his mother. So I would assume he was originally quite young, and she felt he had stolen her time in the spotlight in what was already a male dominated world (remember, per Zenobia of Palmyra, we know Cleopatra is creating a sort of feminist awakening during this time period).
In addition I'm planning to have Ariobarzanes wed Arsinoe in order to take her off of Cleopatra's hands, and create an alliance between Egypt and Cappadocia. I believe their gods are similar (there might be some minor difference, as the dynasty in Cappadocia is Persian and Greek) so it shouldn't be a problem. She'll just be a rather well cared for prisoner, per the agreement. Still, at least she won't be at risk of being put to death any longer. In order to keep alterations to a minimum, we can just have the King name his brother heir.

[Gharin]

I have to make an edit:

Nation/Faction Name: Cappadocia (Client state of Rome)
Leader: Ariobarzanes III of Cappadocia
Leader Age: 32
Leader Personality/Appearance: Persian and Greek; cautious and wary.
Other Characters in your faction (not named in the OP) and relevant details on them: Athenais Philostorgos II (Athenais, princess of Pontus); Isias Philostorgos (Queen of Commagene); Prince Eusebes Philadelphos (later Ariarathes X of Cappadocia).

Entourage:

Lycomedes of Comana- High Priest of Bellona and Priest-King of Comana, under King Ariobarzanes; appointed at the behest of Julius Caesar.
Orsabaris-Princess of Pontus and wife of Lycomedes
Orodaltis- Daughter of Lycomedes and Orsabaris
Archelaus - former High Priest of Bellona and Priest-King of Comana; appointed at the behest of Pompey the Great.
Glaphyra- wife of Archelaus; mother of Archelaus Sisines and Sisines. Mistress to Marc Antony.

Brief overview of faction/nation's recent history: Holding onto a tenuous rule following the death of his father, the King has sought to keep the independence of his Kingdom during the tumult with Rome. Originally supportive of Pompey the Great, the King has thrown his support behind Caesar after realizing the error of his ways.

* Successor of his father, Ariobarzanes II Philopator
* Favorite of Cicero and the Roman Senate
*Has attempted to thwart outside influence from Rome.
*Has held the Kingdom together following the failed reign of his father.

RP example: Which would you like to see?

[Elepis]

@South Mauristan, how do you want to array the Consular forces in Italy? I was thinking Clodius would go north we 15,000 soldiers and fortify a city on Pompey's path to Rome while Crassus would stay in Rome with 10,000 solder + 5,000 Vigilies to defend the capital.

Sounds like a plan. Any ideas regarding size of Pompeys force? Also, any threat from Caesar in the south?!?

Pompey has 30,000 approx (we don't know that thpugh) and Ceaser is coming from the north. Hopefully they will meet each other and fight

[Elepis]

I have to make an edit:

Nation/Faction Name: Cappadocia (Client state of Rome)
Leader: Ariobarzanes III of Cappadocia
Leader Age: 32
Leader Personality/Appearance: Persian and Greek; cautious and wary.
Other Characters in your faction (not named in the OP) and relevant details on them: Athenais Philostorgos II (Athenais, princess of Pontus); Isias Philostorgos (Queen of Commagene); Prince Eusebes Philadelphos (later Ariarathes X of Cappadocia).

Entourage:

Lycomedes of Comana- High Priest of Bellona and Priest-King of Comana, under King Ariobarzanes; appointed at the behest of Julius Caesar.
Orsabaris-Princess of Pontus and wife of Lycomedes
Orodaltis- Daughter of Lycomedes and Orsabaris
Archelaus - former High Priest of Bellona and Priest-King of Comana; appointed at the behest of Pompey the Great.
Glaphyra- wife of Archelaus; mother of Archelaus Sisines and Sisines. Mistress to Marc Antony.

Brief overview of faction/nation's recent history: Holding onto a tenuous rule following the death of his father, the King has sought to keep the independence of his Kingdom during the tumult with Rome. Originally supportive of Pompey the Great, the King has thrown his support behind Caesar after realizing the error of his ways.

* Successor of his father, Ariobarzanes II Philopator
* Favorite of Cicero and the Roman Senate
*Has attempted to thwart outside influence from Rome.
*Has held the Kingdom together following the failed reign of his father.

RP example: Which would you like to see?

You'v been accepted already btw

[Western Pacific Territories]

Sounds like a plan. Any ideas regarding size of Pompeys force? Also, any threat from Caesar in the south?!?

Pompey has 30,000 approx (we don't know that thpugh) and Ceaser is coming from the north. Hopefully they will meet each other and fight

If it helps during this time period the average size of a legion was 4,500 men. Pompey has 5 legions and some more cavalry, so we at least have a minimal size of 22,500 troops and some more men, a decent number would be around 25,000 men.

[Elepis]

Pompey has 30,000 approx (we don't know that thpugh) and Ceaser is coming from the north. Hopefully they will meet each other and fight

If it helps during this time period the average size of a legion was 4,500 men. Pompey has 5 legions and some more cavalry, so we at least have a minimal size of 22,500 troops and some more men, a decent number would be around 25,000 men.

Didn't know how many legions Pompey had brought to Ital tho, did he leave some in Hispania? he must have or it could just revolt.

and when I said "we don't know that" I meant "we" as in Publius and Clodius