1870 : Alternative Divergence [AH][OOC][Discussion]

[Second Helghan Empire]

*coughs*

Yeah don't mean to be a pain but if I'm not mistaken the beo russian empire is mine and I will do with i t what I want.I want to play this rp.

Oh goddammit.

You, Togeria, Trace, and Wicky (yes Standewick I have trouble with your name so now you are wicky to me) all tg oscal about this I am going to freaking get a shake. I am not dealing with the lot of you right now.

[Obilisia]

*coughs*

Yeah don't mean to be a pain but if I'm not mistaken the beo russian empire is mine and I will do with i t what I want.I want to play this rp.

Oh goddammit.

You, Togeria, Trace, and Wicky (yes Standewick I have trouble with your name so now you are wicky to me) all tg oscal about this I am going to freaking get a shake. I am not dealing with the lot of you right now.

Jesus what did I do?

[Tracian Empire]

I apologize if I also acted hostile, and for the way I spoke, must be the Latin in blood in me, but I got pretty angry seeing that once again, someone started accusing me of "bullying" people.

It won't happen again.

[Tracian Empire]

Oh goddammit.

You, Togeria, Trace, and Wicky (yes Standewick I have trouble with your name so now you are wicky to me) all tg oscal about this I am going to freaking get a shake. I am not dealing with the lot of you right now.

Jesus what did I do?

You didn't do anything, we the rest probably angered him a little.

The only thing you did was your absence. People thought that you weren't going to return, so we already two people with apps and guidances for a few interesting things happening to Russia.

It will be complicated.

[Togeria]

Oh goddammit.

You, Togeria, Trace, and Wicky (yes Standewick I have trouble with your name so now you are wicky to me) all tg oscal about this I am going to freaking get a shake. I am not dealing with the lot of you right now.

Jesus what did I do?

Nobody expected you to comeback. Nation CTE'd and everything and both me and the person RPing as Perm had just finalized apps to be approved by the RP in pieces of Russian territory.

[Obilisia]

Jesus what did I do?

You didn't do anything, we the rest probably angered him a little.

The only thing you did was your absence. People thought that you weren't going to return, so we already two people with apps and guidances for a few interesting things happening to Russia.

It will be complicated.

Oh that could be annoying but still.

Anyway so can I get the low down then maybe we can reach a compromise, Just know everyone, I am not super wanting to give up stuff, but I will shave off the edges and what not to make room I guess.

[Obilisia]

Jesus what did I do?

Nobody expected you to comeback. Nation CTE'd and everything and both me and the person RPing as Perm had just finalized apps to be approved by the RP in pieces of Russian territory.

Well I see why he wanted us to telegram each other. I am sure we can figure something out.

[Tracian Empire]

You didn't do anything, we the rest probably angered him a little.

The only thing you did was your absence. People thought that you weren't going to return, so we already two people with apps and guidances for a few interesting things happening to Russia.

It will be complicated.

Oh that could be annoying but still.

Anyway so can I get the low down then maybe we can reach a compromise, Just know everyone, I am not super wanting to give up stuff, but I will shave off the edges and what not to make room I guess.

The apps pretty much went from the conclusion that Russia collapsed into civil war, so it would be difficult..

Let's wait to see what Oscal will say.

[Togeria]

Oh that could be annoying but still.

Anyway so can I get the low down then maybe we can reach a compromise, Just know everyone, I am not super wanting to give up stuff, but I will shave off the edges and what not to make room I guess.

The apps pretty much went from the conclusion that Russia collapsed into civil war, so it would be difficult..

Let's wait to see what Oscal will say.

Even further one of your old monarchs is my monarch.

[Obilisia]

Oh that could be annoying but still.

Anyway so can I get the low down then maybe we can reach a compromise, Just know everyone, I am not super wanting to give up stuff, but I will shave off the edges and what not to make room I guess.

The apps pretty much went from the conclusion that Russia collapsed into civil war, so it would be difficult..

Let's wait to see what Oscal will say.

Okay good Idea.

Having read a little, Togeria, what did you have applied for?

[Obilisia]

The apps pretty much went from the conclusion that Russia collapsed into civil war, so it would be difficult..

Let's wait to see what Oscal will say.

Even further one of your old monarchs is my monarch.

Thats awesome and awkward at the same time.

[Togeria]

Full Nation Name : The Slavic Commonwealth of the Polish, Ukrainians, Serbians, Russians, Slovenes, and all other Slavs(The Commonwealth).
Majority/Official Culture : Polish, Lithuanian, Ukrainian, Russian.
Territorial Core : https://gyazo.com/17cc3ebed37678dd68d0e499540dc24e
Territorial Claim : https://gyazo.com/17cc3ebed37678dd68d0e499540dc24e
Capital City : Warsaw, Poland.
Population : 33,000,000

Government Type : Constitutional Republic
Government Ideology/Policies : Defensive, Militant, Liberalism, Create Equality, Equity, and Opportunity.
Government Focus : The Government focus is based on the teaching from the book,"Pax Slavica". It calls for a union between all Slavs, and as such the country looks to structure itself as the Slavic Heartland and a haven for all Slavs to return to.
Head of State : Queen Karina Tsvetnova.
Head of Government : The Prime Minister Agata Bazek.
Government Description : The government structures itself as more of a republic then a monarchy. The Monarchy isn't weak however as while the Prime Minster isn't elected various positions in the Senate as well as other branches of government are filled on her wishes. She also has the power of being the head of the "Slavic Convocation" a house of government meant to represent all Slavs in the commonwealth in which representatives meet within Warsaw. There they discuss various matters of Domestic and Foreign importance and represent the nation on a global level.

Majority/State Religion : The state is officially secular and doesn't accept one religion. Despite that, the major religions of the state are both Orthodoxy(Roman and Perm) as well as Catholicism.
Religious Description : Look up the Orthodox and Catholic churches respectively.

Economic Ideologies : State-led Free Market Capitalism.
Major Production : Grain, machine parts, metals.
Economic Description : The state works to organize union to set equal wages between different jobs, and overall regulate businesses.

Army Strength : The Army is very passionate with many within the new borders willing to fight and die for the nation.
Army Weakness : Most everyone in the army is poor with a good majority required to bring their own weapons. This makes the army more of a militia then anything.
Naval Strength : We're good at protecting our coastline.
Naval Weakness : We have a very small coastline.
Further Military Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

National Goals :
Become the Slavic Heartland
Modernize
Continue the liberal policies of the old regime
National Issues : Many parts of the country have to be modernized with the need of new factories, railroads, and ports.
National Figures of Interest : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Are there any Mother Teresas or Moses that we need to know about?]]
National Ambition/Aspirations : Regain areas of the historical Slavs(Mainly Polish influenced).
History :
In the 1930s a paper titled "Pax Slavia" was written, it it called for not only peace among the Slavs, but a national homeland for them as well. While initially lacking in sales and popularity the paper grew as it was printed in a variety of different languages and spread along Eastern Europe. Its popularity would first gain strong popularity among the Serbs and then spread north and east to the Polish, Ukrainians, Belorussians, and even the Russians themselves.

As Russian went through revolution and the birth of the Neo-Russian empire was realized the reforms that saw modernization of the country as well as the peasant background of the Tsarina caused much controversy within the empire. This was further flamed as the Church of Perm grew in power and the nation erupted in civil war. Unfortunately, the tsar would be slain in battle as he led a defense of the country in east to protect the capital of Moscow. While he was slain however his wife, Karina had survived.

The Church of Perm in their succession had caused many groups within the former nation to rise. Of that was a nation who lied to furthermost western reaches of the empire, The Commonwealth. These men had gathered in the name of Slavic brotherhood and unity. Many in their ranks however had supported the former monarchy and in their quest to gain support from the outside had sent a envoy to the capital city of Moscow. The former Tsarina would be surprised of their entry and even more as they knelled before her to crown her as the 1st Queen of the Slavs, and she would accept.

With Karina now as the head of the nation the revolutionaries would march eastward in an attempt to claim what was left of the empire. They would succeed in taking most of the Ukraine, Belarus, and even east of that however in this offensive many of the armies numbers were dwindled by rival groups within the country as well as their equipment damaged. Unable to further expand The Commonwealth of the Slavs was declared with Karina as the head monarch. The first prime minster of the state was elected only months ago with the government having been properly established weeks before that. The country has much work to be done with much of the infrastructure in need of repair or remodeling. The government and state are however hopeful with many of the more liberal minds of the previous regime having moved within the nations borders. The nation looks for allies around it to help it grow into the proud nation it seeks to form into and the Slavic heartland it was created to be.
Comparison Points – Political :2
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious :3
Comparison Points – Economy :3
Comparison Points – Military :2
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) : 10/10

Repost of my app

I applied for this.

[Togeria]

Even further one of your old monarchs is my monarch.

Thats awesome and awkward at the same time.

I mean if it makes you feel better my state was strongly influenced by the policies of yours. It's why Karina is Queen as she was she was seen as liberal, for the people, and progressive.

[Obilisia]

Repost of my app

I applied for this.

I like your app. Would you be willing to come down on your territory? What about a Polish Lithuanian Kingdom? I would part with some of the old russian territory to expand it.

[Obilisia]

Thats awesome and awkward at the same time.

I mean if it makes you feel better my state was strongly influenced by the policies of yours. It's why Karina is Queen as she was she was seen as liberal, for the people, and progressive.

Thats actually really flattering. I was trying to make like a Britain in Russia.

[Stadenwick]

*coughs*

Yeah don't mean to be a pain but if I'm not mistaken the beo russian empire is mine and I will do with i t what I want.I want to play this rp.

Oh goddammit.

You, Togeria, Trace, and Wicky (yes Standewick I have trouble with your name so now you are wicky to me) all tg oscal about this I am going to freaking get a shake. I am not dealing with the lot of you right now.

That's why people call me that in the first place

And with this my Perm faith die I guess back to Alaska it is!

[Togeria]

I applied for this.

I like your app. Would you be willing to come down on your territory? What about a Polish Lithuanian Kingdom? I would part with some of the old russian territory to expand it.

http://img00.deviantart.net/9154/i/2011 ... 37j8yh.png

If I could get something close to that then I'll be good and happy. Like very happy.

[Togeria]

I mean if it makes you feel better my state was strongly influenced by the policies of yours. It's why Karina is Queen as she was she was seen as liberal, for the people, and progressive.

Thats actually really flattering. I was trying to make like a Britain in Russia.

No probs. I mean I hope this can work out. If this can work out I'd like to keep Karina or maybe one her family members as my monarch.

[Togeria]

I like your app. Would you be willing to come down on your territory? What about a Polish Lithuanian Kingdom? I would part with some of the old russian territory to expand it.

http://img00.deviantart.net/9154/i/2011 ... 37j8yh.png

If I could get something close to that then I'll be good and happy. Like very happy.

Also taking into account Hansa.

[Obilisia]

I like your app. Would you be willing to come down on your territory? What about a Polish Lithuanian Kingdom? I would part with some of the old russian territory to expand it.

http://img00.deviantart.net/9154/i/2011 ... 37j8yh.png

If I could get something close to that then I'll be good and happy. Like very happy.

That is a massive amount of land though. How will we get Stadenwick land if so much is given over to Poland. I think more like as far east as Minsk and as far south as Moldova.

That way Stadenwick can have from Minsk in the west to the Volga river in the East.

What do you think?

[Togeria]

http://img00.deviantart.net/9154/i/2011 ... 37j8yh.png

If I could get something close to that then I'll be good and happy. Like very happy.

That is a massive amount of land though. How will we get Stadenwick land if so much is given over to Poland. I think more like as far east as Minsk and as far south as Moldova.

That way Stadenwick can have from Minsk in the west to the Volga river in the East.

What do you think?

I'll compromise on the Lithuanianparts but I want the Polish and Ukrainian areas especially.

[Tracian Empire]

http://img00.deviantart.net/9154/i/2011 ... 37j8yh.png

If I could get something close to that then I'll be good and happy. Like very happy.

That is a massive amount of land though. How will we get Stadenwick land if so much is given over to Poland. I think more like as far east as Minsk and as far south as Moldova.

That way Stadenwick can have from Minsk in the west to the Volga river in the East.

What do you think?

I'm sensing Slavic oppression of Latin minorities.

Rome likes.

[Obilisia]

That is a massive amount of land though. How will we get Stadenwick land if so much is given over to Poland. I think more like as far east as Minsk and as far south as Moldova.

That way Stadenwick can have from Minsk in the west to the Volga river in the East.

What do you think?

I'll compromise on the Lithuanianparts but I want the Polish and Ukrainian areas especially.

Right, you still have large swaths of both but this way Stadenwick gets part of the Belorussian and Ukrainian areas and Russia till the Urals.

[Togeria]

I'll compromise on the Lithuanianparts but I want the Polish and Ukrainian areas especially.

Right, you still have large swaths of both but this way Stadenwick gets part of the Belorussian and Ukrainian areas and Russia till the Urals.

Even in the original map I've shown they're at a great advantage. They have the eastern Ukrainian areas, Moscow, likely the Caucuses, as well as the Ukrainian Black Sea coast if both your positions switch.

[Obilisia]

Right, you still have large swaths of both but this way Stadenwick gets part of the Belorussian and Ukrainian areas and Russia till the Urals.

Even in the original map I've shown they're at a great advantage. They have the eastern Ukrainian areas, Moscow, likely the Caucuses, as well as the Ukrainian Black Sea coast if both your positions switch.

Oh what if you just use Crimea as a divide?