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Postby Sanabel » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:54 pm

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Actually you have large amounts of land on that map for Poland-Lithuania that are currently being preliminarily claimed by myself, Sanabel, WIU, and Possibly Trace through I'm not certain there. What I am certain of is the Prussian Coastline I have is a core claim I am not willing to part with being as my nation is largely based on a Teutonic stylized idea.I also know that massive amounts of those southern areas were asked for by WIU who is wishing to be the Huns, and much of the southern area and eastern area are claimed by Novgorod played by Sanabel. Some of the Extreme south may even be currently claimed by the Romans/byzantines played by Trace. I am sure you see the size of the problem now is more than at first glance.

So...More Sweden than Poland?

I'd take a peek at the latest tentative map.
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Postby Sanabel » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:56 pm


This is the last map I made. Should be fairly accurate in Eastern Europe.
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Postby Zelent » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:58 pm

Sanabel wrote:

This is the last map I made. Should be fairly accurate in Eastern Europe.

Why no Iberia. Cool if I edit myself in?
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Postby Togeria » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:58 pm

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This is the last map I made. Should be fairly accurate in Eastern Europe.

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Postby Sanabel » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:59 pm

Zelent wrote:
Sanabel wrote:This is the last map I made. Should be fairly accurate in Eastern Europe.

Why no Iberia. Cool if I edit myself in?

Ja

Keep in mind it isn't official, just a basic outline of claims to keep organized.
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Sanabel wrote:This is the last map I made. Should be fairly accurate in Eastern Europe.

Can you add my Brazil?:

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Sure, after Zelent does his thing.
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Postby Danceria » Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:00 pm

Sanabel wrote:

This is the last map I made. Should be fairly accurate in Eastern Europe.

Holy Terra on mothefucking rollerskates. RIP Poland idea...

Looks like I could into Scandinavia, or Britain where the PU with the Netherlands lasted longer...
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Postby Sanabel » Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:02 pm

Danceria wrote:
Sanabel wrote:This is the last map I made. Should be fairly accurate in Eastern Europe.

Holy Terra on mothefucking rollerskates. RIP Poland idea...

Looks like I could into Scandinavia, or Britain where the PU with the Netherlands lasted longer...

Tbh not necessarily

It looks like a tough spot, but Lithuania was historically a very strong military power. You could probably work a PoD where that is still the case. Moreover, Novgorod at least will not be overtly hostile.

It just doesn't look like a lot of land.
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Postby Danceria » Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:06 pm

Sanabel wrote:
Danceria wrote:Holy Terra on mothefucking rollerskates. RIP Poland idea...

Looks like I could into Scandinavia, or Britain where the PU with the Netherlands lasted longer...

Tbh not necessarily

It looks like a tough spot, but Lithuania was historically a very strong military power. You could probably work a PoD where that is still the case. Moreover, Novgorod at least will not be overtly hostile.

It just doesn't look like a lot of land.

I'll see what I can squeeze in, but Poland will have low morale because, you know fucking three empires bearing down on them.
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Postby Sanabel » Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:09 pm

Danceria wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Tbh not necessarily

It looks like a tough spot, but Lithuania was historically a very strong military power. You could probably work a PoD where that is still the case. Moreover, Novgorod at least will not be overtly hostile.

It just doesn't look like a lot of land.

I'll see what I can squeeze in, but Poland will have low morale because, you know fucking three empires bearing down on them.

Just have Lithuania be in charge. They were always better, militarily. And then morale could be up, since they maintain dominance over a nice chunk of land. Plus, Courland serves as a buffer between Novgorod and Poland.
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Postby Danceria » Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:24 pm

Sanabel wrote:
Danceria wrote:I'll see what I can squeeze in, but Poland will have low morale because, you know fucking three empires bearing down on them.

Just have Lithuania be in charge. They were always better, militarily. And then morale could be up, since they maintain dominance over a nice chunk of land. Plus, Courland serves as a buffer between Novgorod and Poland.

Roger that.
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Postby Zelent » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:03 pm

Sanabel wrote:
Zelent wrote:Why no Iberia. Cool if I edit myself in?

Ja

Keep in mind it isn't official, just a basic outline of claims to keep organized.

Sure, after Zelent does his thing.

Colonies or no? Sorry, was away but didn't logout.
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Postby Sanabel » Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:25 pm

Zelent wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Ja

Keep in mind it isn't official, just a basic outline of claims to keep organized.

Sure, after Zelent does his thing.

Colonies or no? Sorry, was away but didn't logout.

Only if they are contiguous with your main land claim for this version.

In before someone says it is not official; I know that, this is for my use and for the use of others to collect their thoughts and get a rough outline of the world.
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Postby Sanabel » Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:04 am

It is a bit weird how so few small countries there are in Europe.
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Postby Danceria » Sat Dec 17, 2016 12:24 pm

Sanabel wrote:It is a bit weird how so few small countries there are in Europe.

Still tossing up between an idea where the PU with the Netherlands continues in Great Britain, or a Scandinavia-Lithuania PU with colonies.
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Postby Tracian Empire » Sat Dec 17, 2016 12:25 pm

Danceria wrote:
Sanabel wrote:It is a bit weird how so few small countries there are in Europe.

Still tossing up between an idea where the PU with the Netherlands continues in Great Britain, or a Scandinavia-Lithuania PU with colonies.

Netherlands is taken though.
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Postby Danceria » Sat Dec 17, 2016 12:33 pm

Tracian Empire wrote:
Danceria wrote:Still tossing up between an idea where the PU with the Netherlands continues in Great Britain, or a Scandinavia-Lithuania PU with colonies.

Netherlands is taken though.

Hm...How about a Scandinavia with territory in the small gap between Novgorod, Germany, and Hungary(?) (Whatever remains of Poland-Lithuania), and colonies in Ghana, Togoland and Benin, as well as lands in the Lesser Antilles and Venezuela?
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Postby Tracian Empire » Sat Dec 17, 2016 12:53 pm

Danceria wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:Netherlands is taken though.

Hm...How about a Scandinavia with territory in the small gap between Novgorod, Germany, and Hungary(?) (Whatever remains of Poland-Lithuania), and colonies in Ghana, Togoland and Benin, as well as lands in the Lesser Antilles and Venezuela?

The green nation is formed by the Huns.

Well, I can't speak about the Colonies, but a Scandinavia in a personal union with Poland Lithuania may work, but P-L would be near impossible to defend.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Sat Dec 17, 2016 1:10 pm

Danceria wrote:
Sanabel wrote:It is a bit weird how so few small countries there are in Europe.

Still tossing up between an idea where the PU with the Netherlands continues in Great Britain, or a Scandinavia-Lithuania PU with colonies.

Great Britain is Cymrea's.
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Postby Tracian Empire » Sat Dec 17, 2016 1:13 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Danceria wrote:Still tossing up between an idea where the PU with the Netherlands continues in Great Britain, or a Scandinavia-Lithuania PU with colonies.

Great Britain is Cymrea's.

Oh yes, how could I forget :(
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Postby Danceria » Sat Dec 17, 2016 1:16 pm

Tracian Empire wrote:
Danceria wrote:Hm...How about a Scandinavia with territory in the small gap between Novgorod, Germany, and Hungary(?) (Whatever remains of Poland-Lithuania), and colonies in Ghana, Togoland and Benin, as well as lands in the Lesser Antilles and Venezuela?

The green nation is formed by the Huns.

Well, I can't speak about the Colonies, but a Scandinavia in a personal union with Poland Lithuania may work, but P-L would be near impossible to defend.

Or just be Scandinavia.

Sounds fine, with colonies.
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Postby Trotza » Sat Dec 17, 2016 1:18 pm

Danceria wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:The green nation is formed by the Huns.

Well, I can't speak about the Colonies, but a Scandinavia in a personal union with Poland Lithuania may work, but P-L would be near impossible to defend.

Or just be Scandinavia.

Sounds fine, with colonies.

I mean, couldn't you do like a more specific Scandinavia, dominated by a single country or group or something, because I swear the generic "Nordic Union" is really in the running for most overused nation in an alternate history rp.
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Postby Sanabel » Sat Dec 17, 2016 1:19 pm

Trotza wrote:
Danceria wrote:Or just be Scandinavia.

Sounds fine, with colonies.

I mean, couldn't you do like a more specific Scandinavia, dominated by a single country or group or something, because I swear the generic "Nordic Union" is really in the running for most overused nation in an alternate history rp.

Even a Sweden or Denmark dominated Scandinavia is super cliche.
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Postby Trotza » Sat Dec 17, 2016 1:21 pm

Sanabel wrote:
Trotza wrote:I mean, couldn't you do like a more specific Scandinavia, dominated by a single country or group or something, because I swear the generic "Nordic Union" is really in the running for most overused nation in an alternate history rp.

Even a Sweden or Denmark dominated Scandinavia is super cliche.

Says the guy playing Russia. I sense a conflict of interest here. Or just a greater Finland in the making. That'd be a good one lol.
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Postby Tracian Empire » Sat Dec 17, 2016 1:21 pm

Trotza wrote:
Danceria wrote:Or just be Scandinavia.

Sounds fine, with colonies.

I mean, couldn't you do like a more specific Scandinavia, dominated by a single country or group or something, because I swear the generic "Nordic Union" is really in the running for most overused nation in an alternate history rp.

I agree.

Perhaps something more Viking like could be a good idea?

I don't know, my knowledge of Scandinavia isn't that good
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