1870 : Alternative Divergence [AH][OOC][Discussion]

[Cabana]

Added on the latest accepted version of Novgorod/The United Russian Republics to Trace's mapa. With the Roman/Russian puppet kingdom of Armenia, and the autonomous Couronian Republic.

make sure u ad noo englnd!!!!

[Cabana]

Added on the latest accepted version of Novgorod/The United Russian Republics to Trace's mapa. With the Roman/Russian puppet kingdom of Armenia, and the autonomous Couronian Republic.

make sure u ad noo englnd!!!!

[Sanabel]

Added on the latest accepted version of Novgorod/The United Russian Republics to Trace's mapa. With the Roman/Russian puppet kingdom of Armenia, and the autonomous Couronian Republic.

M-muh Ossetia...

Get over it.

[Sanabel]

Added on the latest accepted version of Novgorod/The United Russian Republics to Trace's mapa. With the Roman/Russian puppet kingdom of Armenia, and the autonomous Couronian Republic.

make sure u ad noo englnd!!!!

Ill add it now.

[The V O I D]

Added on the latest accepted version of Novgorod/The United Russian Republics to Trace's mapa.

Poland basically doesn't exist.

Also, here is an ambitions map based on what I've seen and heard thus far, in the war with the Huns.

Since Novgorod will be busy with a civil war, I didn't give them any Hun-clay.

[Sanabel]

Now with New England!

[Sanabel]

Added on the latest accepted version of Novgorod/The United Russian Republics to Trace's mapa.

Poland basically doesn't exist.

Also, here is an ambitions map based on what I've seen and heard thus far, in the war with the Huns.

Since Novgorod will be busy with a civil war, I didn't give them any Hun-clay.

They are fortunate they do exist. Same with the Lithuanians.

[Tracian Empire]

Added on the latest accepted version of Novgorod/The United Russian Republics to Trace's mapa.

Poland basically doesn't exist.

Also, here is an ambitions map based on what I've seen and heard thus far, in the war with the Huns.

Since Novgorod will be busy with a civil war, I didn't give them any Hun-clay.

You're breaking the line

[Sanabel]

Added on the latest accepted version of Novgorod/The United Russian Republics to Trace's mapa.

Poland basically doesn't exist.

Also, here is an ambitions map based on what I've seen and heard thus far, in the war with the Huns.

Since Novgorod will be busy with a civil war, I didn't give them any Hun-clay.

Novgorod will be able to spare some troops to take Ukraine up to the Carpathians...

EDIT: And Novgorod will support independence for Lithuania to keep a buffer with the Germans, unless they plan on entering a Fun Friendship Pact with Novgorod.

[The V O I D]

Poland basically doesn't exist.

Also, here is an ambitions map based on what I've seen and heard thus far, in the war with the Huns.

Since Novgorod will be busy with a civil war, I didn't give them any Hun-clay.

You're breaking the line

What line?

But yeah, that's the ambitions map of the powers on-map so far, post-Hun war in the event of Holy Alliance of Christendom victory.

[Tracian Empire]

You're breaking the line

What line?

But yeah, that's the ambitions map of the powers on-map so far, post-Hun war in the event of Holy Alliance of Christendom victory.

The Eastern-Western division line made by Diocletian

[Sanabel]

You're breaking the line

What line?

But yeah, that's the ambitions map of the powers on-map so far, post-Hun war in the event of Holy Alliance of Christendom victory.

That's an unconditional total victory without the Huns even getting by with just their homeland. That's super unlikely and unrealistic.

And the blobbyness of that map makes my skin crawl.

[The V O I D]

What line?

But yeah, that's the ambitions map of the powers on-map so far, post-Hun war in the event of Holy Alliance of Christendom victory.

The Eastern-Western division line made by Diocletian

Who cares? The Huns took rightful Roman/Italian clay and Byzantine clay. We can redraw the line after we claim the clay again.

@Sanabel. I said it was an ambitions map in the event of HAC victory/total victory.

Obviously, that isn't going to happen so the actual post-war map will vary.

[Sanabel]

The Eastern-Western division line made by Diocletian

Who cares? The Huns took rightful Roman/Italian clay and Byzantine clay. We can redraw the line after we claim the clay again.

@Sanabel. I said it was an ambitions map in the event of HAC victory/total victory.

Obviously, that isn't going to happen so the actual post-war map will vary.

Your ambitions map is very ambitious, and assumes the Novgorodians won't be able to participate.

[Second Helghan Empire]

You're breaking the line

What line?

But yeah, that's the ambitions map of the powers on-map so far, post-Hun war in the event of Holy Alliance of Christendom victory.

I'd probably side with the Huns to expand on italy actually. especially if he christianized which he probably will do

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

For the record, I am reprising Persia.

[The V O I D]

Who cares? The Huns took rightful Roman/Italian clay and Byzantine clay. We can redraw the line after we claim the clay again.

@Sanabel. I said it was an ambitions map in the event of HAC victory/total victory.

Obviously, that isn't going to happen so the actual post-war map will vary.

Your ambitions map is very ambitious, and assumes the Novgorodians won't be able to participate.

I mean, you said the Novogrod civil war might interfere, so I figured the Germans, Byzantines and Italians would screw Novgorod out of a good deal because of it - regardless of their participation.

[The V O I D]

What line?

But yeah, that's the ambitions map of the powers on-map so far, post-Hun war in the event of Holy Alliance of Christendom victory.

I'd probably side with the Huns to expand on italy actually. especially if he christianized which he probably will do

Wat.

Italia is Christian already and has the Catholic Church, and is allied with Byzantium. Why would you side with the Huns as a Christian German nation?

[Tracian Empire]

Your ambitions map is very ambitious, and assumes the Novgorodians won't be able to participate.

I mean, you said the Novogrod civil war might interfere, so I figured the Germans, Byzantines and Italians would screw Novgorod out of a good deal because of it - regardless of their participation.

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[Second Helghan Empire]

Your ambitions map is very ambitious, and assumes the Novgorodians won't be able to participate.

I mean, you said the Novogrod civil war might interfere, so I figured the Germans, Byzantines and Italians would screw Novgorod out of a good deal because of it - regardless of their participation.

I'd rather take Lombardy than Hungary if you catch my meaning.

[Sanabel]

If Germany and Rome are enemies, it will put Novgorod in a tight place, considering the deep cultural/trade affiliations with both empires.

Your ambitions map is very ambitious, and assumes the Novgorodians won't be able to participate.

I mean, you said the Novogrod civil war might interfere, so I figured the Germans, Byzantines and Italians would screw Novgorod out of a good deal because of it - regardless of their participation.

There's no way Novgorod is letting anyone take Ukraine in this situation. But then again this situation is practically an impossibility...

[Tracian Empire]

If Germany and Rome are enemies, it will put Novgorod in a tight place, considering the deep cultural/trade affiliations with both empires.

I mean, you said the Novogrod civil war might interfere, so I figured the Germans, Byzantines and Italians would screw Novgorod out of a good deal because of it - regardless of their participation.

There's no way Novgorod is letting anyone take Ukraine in this situation. But then again this situation is practically an impossibility...

I'm still not anything.

[Sanabel]

Helghan, for my AH, I need Novgorod to have had the same relations with the German states during the Middle Ages, if not better. Is that ok with you?

[Sanabel]

If Germany and Rome are enemies, it will put Novgorod in a tight place, considering the deep cultural/trade affiliations with both empires.

There's no way Novgorod is letting anyone take Ukraine in this situation. But then again this situation is practically an impossibility...

I'm still not anything.

Just speculation and hypothetical.

[Second Helghan Empire]

If Germany and Rome are enemies, it will put Novgorod in a tight place, considering the deep cultural/trade affiliations with both empires.

I mean, you said the Novogrod civil war might interfere, so I figured the Germans, Byzantines and Italians would screw Novgorod out of a good deal because of it - regardless of their participation.

There's no way Novgorod is letting anyone take Ukraine in this situation. But then again this situation is practically an impossibility...

Lombardy is held by Italy and I got no qualms with you or rome and would rather trade.

But likeTrace said he is nothing yet, and neither are any of us. We have a massive workload ahead before everything begins.