1870 : Alternative Divergence [AH][OOC][Discussion]

[Second Helghan Empire]

Hansa has returned!

I am so happy to see this rp making a comeback!!! It is honestly my favorite one so far.

[Second Helghan Empire]

Amazing. Simply amazing.

Anyhow, hello~! Are you planning on leading the Netherlands again?

Depends where do we leave off, am i still going to be in that dogpile of a war i was in

Yeah I think maybe if we all sorta got on a TG convo and discussed a fitting ending for all and we could just add it as one of the Guidances that such and such happened. What do you and oscal think of that idea Rygondria?

[Second Helghan Empire]

Oh my I am quadruple posting, sorry everyone for doing that but you don't realize how happy I am to see this getting a breath of life back in it!

[Tracian Empire]

It would be interesting, though, with the current alliance blocks, I really feel that the situation in Europe is unbalanced.

Bear in mind we'll have a new potential Austria Hungary, we'll defo have a new Scandinavia, I do think as an aside however that no more expansions of homelands should be had in Europe, let's think long term here, oh and we'll need yet ANOTHER new Russia...

Yeah, things might change. But for the time being, the European borders will probably remain more or less the same, or we will face a continental war.

[Tracian Empire]

Oh my I am quadruple posting, sorry everyone for doing that but you don't realize how happy I am to see this getting a breath of life back in it!

No problem, we're all happy for it!

[Vulkanas]

Hello again! I have to say, I was quite pleased when I saw this pop up. I'm going to have a lot of time on my hands for most of the summer, and I feel like I can really get back into this RP. If it's fine by everyone else, I'd like to reinstate my Sweden application from before. I'm all for the guidance suggestion that Helghan made.

[Second Helghan Empire]

It would be interesting, though, with the current alliance blocks, I really feel that the situation in Europe is unbalanced.

Bear in mind we'll have a new potential Austria Hungary, we'll defo have a new Scandinavia, I do think as an aside however that no more expansions of homelands should be had in Europe, let's think long term here, oh and we'll need yet ANOTHER new Russia...

I would think that homeland expansions should have only happened if they were underway when we left off, Like I believe I had been fiddling with Scandinavia over a few Baltic Islands and sort of gearing up on a new landing in Iceland, not to mention I was fully at war with the Netherlands if I remember correctly.

I think some others would also have slight expansions, I remember Tracian was heading into the Persian regions and definitely bashing on the pirates in the east med, so I am sure after five years he took that. There was much more and that is all just homeland stuff not even considering colonies and such.

[Second Helghan Empire]

Bear in mind we'll have a new potential Austria Hungary, we'll defo have a new Scandinavia, I do think as an aside however that no more expansions of homelands should be had in Europe, let's think long term here, oh and we'll need yet ANOTHER new Russia...

Yeah, things might change. But for the time being, the European borders will probably remain more or less the same, or we will face a continental war.

That's true While I still fell the borders would be slightly different for myself and the dutch that would be something he and I should hash out before the rp truly begins. As far as anything else we all literally did nothing but glare at one another for years haha!

[Vulkanas]

I would think that homeland expansions should have only happened if they were underway when we left off, Like I believe I had been fiddling with Scandinavia over a few Baltic Islands and sort of gearing up on a new landing in Iceland, not to mention I was fully at war with the Netherlands if I remember correctly.

I seem to remember ceding Iceland to you since you declared war and I just couldn't fight such a big nation.

[Second Helghan Empire]

I would think that homeland expansions should have only happened if they were underway when we left off, Like I believe I had been fiddling with Scandinavia over a few Baltic Islands and sort of gearing up on a new landing in Iceland, not to mention I was fully at war with the Netherlands if I remember correctly.

I seem to remember ceding Iceland to you since you declared war and I just couldn't fight such a big nation.

I think that was what happened and then you evacuated the inhabitants peacefully.

Looking back I realize my expansion was pretty aggressive compared to others...I am literally the only person in Europe who Expanded, against players.

[Second Helghan Empire]

Hello again! I have to say, I was quite pleased when I saw this pop up. I'm going to have a lot of time on my hands for most of the summer, and I feel like I can really get back into this RP. If it's fine by everyone else, I'd like to reinstate my Sweden application from before. I'm all for the guidance suggestion that Helghan made.

I would actually love to see everyone return, I have literally called and woken WIU up haha just to tell him this is back. Though I think it might be till tomorrow that he actually shows up. hehe

[Eurasian Hegemony]

Hey everyone, I am currently squealing like a teenage girl in a room full of shoes.

[Novacom]

Bear in mind we'll have a new potential Austria Hungary, we'll defo have a new Scandinavia, I do think as an aside however that no more expansions of homelands should be had in Europe, let's think long term here, oh and we'll need yet ANOTHER new Russia...

I would think that homeland expansions should have only happened if they were underway when we left off, Like I believe I had been fiddling with Scandinavia over a few Baltic Islands and sort of gearing up on a new landing in Iceland, not to mention I was fully at war with the Netherlands if I remember correctly.

I think some others would also have slight expansions, I remember Tracian was heading into the Persian regions and definitely bashing on the pirates in the east med, so I am sure after five years he took that. There was much more and that is all just homeland stuff not even considering colonies and such.

Colonies I don't have an issue with it's more blobbing in Europe for example, when that space could be given to new players

[Tracian Empire]

Bear in mind we'll have a new potential Austria Hungary, we'll defo have a new Scandinavia, I do think as an aside however that no more expansions of homelands should be had in Europe, let's think long term here, oh and we'll need yet ANOTHER new Russia...

I would think that homeland expansions should have only happened if they were underway when we left off, Like I believe I had been fiddling with Scandinavia over a few Baltic Islands and sort of gearing up on a new landing in Iceland, not to mention I was fully at war with the Netherlands if I remember correctly.

I think some others would also have slight expansions, I remember Tracian was heading into the Persian regions and definitely bashing on the pirates in the east med, so I am sure after five years he took that. There was much more and that is all just homeland stuff not even considering colonies and such.

Yes, I was about to send irregulars for raids in Persian territory, and I was preparing an invasion in Persia at the time.

[Second Helghan Empire]

I would think that homeland expansions should have only happened if they were underway when we left off, Like I believe I had been fiddling with Scandinavia over a few Baltic Islands and sort of gearing up on a new landing in Iceland, not to mention I was fully at war with the Netherlands if I remember correctly.

I think some others would also have slight expansions, I remember Tracian was heading into the Persian regions and definitely bashing on the pirates in the east med, so I am sure after five years he took that. There was much more and that is all just homeland stuff not even considering colonies and such.

Colonies I don't have an issue with it's more blobbing in Europe for example, when that space could be given to new players

Very good point. I am pretty sure Austria is out, as well as Russia, which opens up two very large areas for new nations. Honestly I am actually fond of a busted up Russia to allow for more players, At this point Europe is essentially Britain, France, Italy, Germany, Scandinavia, and the Netherlands. That's not many players and with so many of the main nations taken, and not only taken, built into empires I think we should focus on acquiring new players at the beginning who would actually be present.

I have a few people I have rped with many times before who could be interested.

[Second Helghan Empire]

I would think that homeland expansions should have only happened if they were underway when we left off, Like I believe I had been fiddling with Scandinavia over a few Baltic Islands and sort of gearing up on a new landing in Iceland, not to mention I was fully at war with the Netherlands if I remember correctly.

I think some others would also have slight expansions, I remember Tracian was heading into the Persian regions and definitely bashing on the pirates in the east med, so I am sure after five years he took that. There was much more and that is all just homeland stuff not even considering colonies and such.

Yes, I was about to send irregulars for raids in Persian territory, and I was preparing an invasion in Persia at the time.

I figured. As for me my colonies would have continued to grow as I would have focused on them following the war with the Netherlands, I don't necessarily mean in large amounts of land, and I am sure Africa will be saved for an event which will be fun. As far as my colonies go though I will definitely be pouring money and time into them when we get started.

[Stadenwick]

Is Alaska land empty there? Who colonized it? Or did no one did it?

[Second Helghan Empire]

Is Alaska land empty there? Who colonized it? Or did no one did it?

It's empty but the map is actually very out of date, we have several other openings for nations that would be far more relevant to the world stage. As for applying if you would please hang around for a few days as the old players return and we figure out who needs removed from the map.

[Stadenwick]

Is Alaska land empty there? Who colonized it? Or did no one did it?

It's empty but the map is actually very out of date, we have several other openings for nations that would be far more relevant to the world stage. As for applying if you would please hang around for a few days as the old players return and we figure out who needs removed from the map.

Really? Would you mind telling me what countries are currently open?

[Eurasian Hegemony]

Bear in mind we'll have a new potential Austria Hungary, we'll defo have a new Scandinavia, I do think as an aside however that no more expansions of homelands should be had in Europe, let's think long term here, oh and we'll need yet ANOTHER new Russia...

I would think that homeland expansions should have only happened if they were underway when we left off, Like I believe I had been fiddling with Scandinavia over a few Baltic Islands and sort of gearing up on a new landing in Iceland, not to mention I was fully at war with the Netherlands if I remember correctly.


I think some others would also have slight expansions, I remember Tracian was heading into the Persian regions and definitely bashing on the pirates in the east med, so I am sure after five years he took that. There was much more and that is all just homeland stuff not even considering colonies and such.

I figure I will have expanded in the same regions I already was. Arabia, and Sudan, Especially with my region of the Mediterranean secure from the long past pirates.

I honestly had planned on trying my hand at a colony but it doesn't seem like there is any place really to go with one. Either way I control a massive part of Africa as is and it isn't even a colony, it's my home territory.

Any one have an Idea of what I could Colonize, I just want like a little piece

[Second Helghan Empire]

It's empty but the map is actually very out of date, we have several other openings for nations that would be far more relevant to the world stage. As for applying if you would please hang around for a few days as the old players return and we figure out who needs removed from the map.

Really? Would you mind telling me what countries are currently open?

Well I can't be 100% sure yet. We will probably send tgs to everyone who was in it. I am sure many will return but there will always be a few who don't. Would it be alright if I TG you once we have discovered whoever is missing? Either way feel free to stick around and enjoy the friendly company we have to offer until we have sure openings.

[Second Helghan Empire]

I would think that homeland expansions should have only happened if they were underway when we left off, Like I believe I had been fiddling with Scandinavia over a few Baltic Islands and sort of gearing up on a new landing in Iceland, not to mention I was fully at war with the Netherlands if I remember correctly.


I think some others would also have slight expansions, I remember Tracian was heading into the Persian regions and definitely bashing on the pirates in the east med, so I am sure after five years he took that. There was much more and that is all just homeland stuff not even considering colonies and such.

I figure I will have expanded in the same regions I already was. Arabia, and Sudan, Especially with my region of the Mediterranean secure from the long past pirates.

I honestly had planned on trying my hand at a colony but it doesn't seem like there is any place really to go with one. Either way I control a massive part of Africa as is and it isn't even a colony, it's my home territory.

Any one have an Idea of what I could Colonize, I just want like a little piece

Haha, well there are some gaps on the west coast of South America I think, though I doubt anyone over there will take too kindly to a European nation attempting to settle there.

I wouldn't worry too much about the colonies, You have a huge swath of Africa as a jumping board for the continent.

[Stadenwick]

Really? Would you mind telling me what countries are currently open?

Well I can't be 100% sure yet. We will probably send tgs to everyone who was in it. I am sure many will return but there will always be a few who don't. Would it be alright if I TG you once we have discovered whoever is missing? Either way feel free to stick around and enjoy the friendly company we have to offer until we have sure openings.

Of course, in fact it would be very helpful for me, so thank you. I would like to stick around and enjoy the banter too

[Second Helghan Empire]

Well I can't be 100% sure yet. We will probably send tgs to everyone who was in it. I am sure many will return but there will always be a few who don't. Would it be alright if I TG you once we have discovered whoever is missing? Either way feel free to stick around and enjoy the friendly company we have to offer until we have sure openings.

Of course, in fact it would be very helpful for me, so thank you. I would like to stick around and enjoy the banter too

Wonderful! Like I said after a few days some spots will open up I am sure of it.

[Oscalantine]

Oh wow... this is unexpected. XDDD

So with Hansa and Christendom coming back, things are VERY crowded again ^^. Although I haven't gotten 1000% confirmation from Cy yet and thus I am unsure as to how much Cambria would be, I would have to say that much of Britain would be freed for faction wars.

And that's where I am slowly going to start working on: factions. All maps will have old RP nations, but for NPC nations... basically nations that haven't claimed their region yet by the time RP starts... I will have newcomers effectively carve up old NPC lands into lands that they want, be it liberation from the old or complete reformation. I am still working on who will be eligible, so I will have everyone stay tuned.

Btw... who is exactly joining? You know that myself and Korea is coming back, but who else?

OH and yes, since we technically have 1870's tech now, it would be semi-appropriate to start climbing up towards Scramble for Africa, which will be a MASSIVE event for all colonial powers. I am looking forward to how everyone carves up this continent to their heart's content XDDD