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Pacificora
Minister
 
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Founded: Aug 09, 2016
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Postby Pacificora » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:43 pm

Entitaria wrote:
Arbakovana-Venezia wrote:Alright. Upon examination of the post, Bolivia's demands are far too radical or large for how significant Bolivia is. Bolivia is basically trying to decentralise the confederation, which needs to be centralized in a way the states within it function in harmony. Bolivia's demand of "no power within our borders" is the primary concern of this. For example, if Fenezuela, which won't exist in my next post, happens to want to build in Bolivia or set up some industries as if it were her own country, that wouldn't be allowed.

You don't need to change it by the way.

Also, I don't exactly understand why Xinjiang would join with the Han Chinese. The people of Xinjiang are more akin to the Mongols or the Tatars like the Kazakhs, the Kygrz, etc.

1. I get that, but I can see how it realistic that they want to be able to leave the Confederation and so that the individual nations that make it up cannot control them.
2. Yeah, I know that Xinjiang isn't Han, but independence movements in modern times are very low and I doubt they could survive alone.

Have them join Kazakh and Kygrz to form a greater Turkic Federation.
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Leader - Chancellor Zar Koranal
Capital - Pala
Population - 72,121,853
Currency - Kora (PAK)
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2024: Global Warfare - PLANNED (International Entity)
Galactacia - PLANNED (Purian Order)
Sunset Invasion - PLANNED (Meeniyan Wonthaggi)
Green Sahara - PLANNED (Egypt, OP)

THE REPUBLIC OF PACIFICORA
COBALT NETWORK CO-CREATOR AND EX-PRESIDENT
Est. 2043
Post Modern
"The paths we choose, the risks we take, the hopes we hold, the mistakes we make. The hands we're dealt, the hours we wake, the ends we reach, the hearts we break. The lives we lead, the twists of fate, what we believe, what we forsake. The fears we never seem to shake, the distant shore, the moonlit lake."

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Entitaria
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Founded: Jul 06, 2016
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Postby Entitaria » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:44 pm

Pacificora wrote:
Entitaria wrote:1. I get that, but I can see how it realistic that they want to be able to leave the Confederation and so that the individual nations that make it up cannot control them.
2. Yeah, I know that Xinjiang isn't Han, but independence movements in modern times are very low and I doubt they could survive alone.

Have them join Kazakh and Kygrz to form a greater Turkic Federation.

I could maybe do that later.
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North Yemen-
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Postby North Yemen- » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:45 pm

I should've known stealing all of Pakistan's stuff would cause shit to go down.

Oh well, have fun with your new purchase, Persia :oops:
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Arbakovana-Venezia
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Founded: Feb 05, 2016
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Postby Arbakovana-Venezia » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:46 pm

Entitaria wrote:
Arbakovana-Venezia wrote:Alright. Upon examination of the post, Bolivia's demands are far too radical or large for how significant Bolivia is. Bolivia is basically trying to decentralise the confederation, which needs to be centralized in a way the states within it function in harmony. Bolivia's demand of "no power within our borders" is the primary concern of this. For example, if Fenezuela, which won't exist in my next post, happens to want to build in Bolivia or set up some industries as if it were her own country, that wouldn't be allowed.

You don't need to change it by the way.

Also, I don't exactly understand why Xinjiang would join with the Han Chinese. The people of Xinjiang are more akin to the Mongols or the Tatars like the Kazakhs, the Kygrz, etc.

1. I get that, but I can see how it realistic that they want to be able to leave the Confederation and so that the individual nations that make it up cannot control them.
2. Yeah, I know that Xinjiang isn't Han, but independence movements in modern times are very low and I doubt they could survive alone.

1. Bolivia hardly has a choice as it's surrounded by hungering neighbours such as me and Brazil. Bolivia is reliant on it's neighbours for trade due to lack of coast. Bolivia would find it beneficial for Fenezuelan factories to open up there. I need dat rubbbbbbeeeeeer

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Atrilan
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Founded: Mar 11, 2016
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Postby Atrilan » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:46 pm

North Yemen- wrote:I should've known stealing all of Pakistan's stuff would cause shit to go down.

Oh well, have fun with your new purchase, Persia :oops:

xD

Nice job getting rid of the bom- I mean Pakistan.
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Leader - Antrinoxa Program
Capital - Avlose
Population - 73,892,891
Currency - Credit (₡)
Roleplay Information
2024: The Long Peace - People's Republic of China

THE TECHNOCRATIC STATE OF ATRILAN
COBALT NETWORK FOUNDER
Est. 2089
Post Modern

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Pacificora
Minister
 
Posts: 3183
Founded: Aug 09, 2016
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Postby Pacificora » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:47 pm

Entitaria wrote:
Pacificora wrote:Ugh fine, I'll give Oromia, Addis Ababa and Dira Diwa independance on the condition they DO NOT form an imperial government, join the PCE, and the train line can stay.

Wait... you're going to do that?

FUCK, YOU'RE MAKING THIS REALLY HARD TO CAUSE PAIN TO YOU WITHOUT SOMETHING LIKE DISEASE. xD

That's the point xD. Yeah I'm willing to do that, simply because I'm looking at a resource map of Ethiopia, and I still get all the mines and the vast majority of the resources, and I don't have to deal with those Ethiopians anymore. Plus, it's unluckily any of the other states would want to leave, because they are extremely different ethnically to the Ethiopians.

As long as I can keep that stupid trianline I'm happy. I don't need the land, or the people, i need the resources.
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Leader - Chancellor Zar Koranal
Capital - Pala
Population - 72,121,853
Currency - Kora (PAK)
Roleplay Information
2024: Global Warfare - PLANNED (International Entity)
Galactacia - PLANNED (Purian Order)
Sunset Invasion - PLANNED (Meeniyan Wonthaggi)
Green Sahara - PLANNED (Egypt, OP)

THE REPUBLIC OF PACIFICORA
COBALT NETWORK CO-CREATOR AND EX-PRESIDENT
Est. 2043
Post Modern
"The paths we choose, the risks we take, the hopes we hold, the mistakes we make. The hands we're dealt, the hours we wake, the ends we reach, the hearts we break. The lives we lead, the twists of fate, what we believe, what we forsake. The fears we never seem to shake, the distant shore, the moonlit lake."

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Atrilan
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Founded: Mar 11, 2016
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Postby Atrilan » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:47 pm

Arbakovana-Venezia wrote:
Entitaria wrote:1. I get that, but I can see how it realistic that they want to be able to leave the Confederation and so that the individual nations that make it up cannot control them.
2. Yeah, I know that Xinjiang isn't Han, but independence movements in modern times are very low and I doubt they could survive alone.

1. Bolivia hardly has a choice as it's surrounded by hungering neighbours such as me and Brazil. Bolivia is reliant on it's neighbours for trade due to lack of coast. Bolivia would find it beneficial for Fenezuelan factories to open up there. I need dat rubbbbbbeeeeeer

Well, they have Brazil. I'm sure Brazil would love to make friends with Bolivia.
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Leader - Antrinoxa Program
Capital - Avlose
Population - 73,892,891
Currency - Credit (₡)
Roleplay Information
2024: The Long Peace - People's Republic of China

THE TECHNOCRATIC STATE OF ATRILAN
COBALT NETWORK FOUNDER
Est. 2089
Post Modern

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Pacificora
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Posts: 3183
Founded: Aug 09, 2016
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Postby Pacificora » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:48 pm

Entitaria wrote:
Pacificora wrote:And it's also time to deal with those stupid Arabs again...

They're covertly trading nuclear weapons, so you don't know about it currently.

Yeah I know but our relations didn't exactly kick off the first time round did they? xD
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Leader - Chancellor Zar Koranal
Capital - Pala
Population - 72,121,853
Currency - Kora (PAK)
Roleplay Information
2024: Global Warfare - PLANNED (International Entity)
Galactacia - PLANNED (Purian Order)
Sunset Invasion - PLANNED (Meeniyan Wonthaggi)
Green Sahara - PLANNED (Egypt, OP)

THE REPUBLIC OF PACIFICORA
COBALT NETWORK CO-CREATOR AND EX-PRESIDENT
Est. 2043
Post Modern
"The paths we choose, the risks we take, the hopes we hold, the mistakes we make. The hands we're dealt, the hours we wake, the ends we reach, the hearts we break. The lives we lead, the twists of fate, what we believe, what we forsake. The fears we never seem to shake, the distant shore, the moonlit lake."

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Arbakovana-Venezia
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Founded: Feb 05, 2016
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Postby Arbakovana-Venezia » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:49 pm

Atrilan wrote:
Arbakovana-Venezia wrote:1. Bolivia hardly has a choice as it's surrounded by hungering neighbours such as me and Brazil. Bolivia is reliant on it's neighbours for trade due to lack of coast. Bolivia would find it beneficial for Fenezuelan factories to open up there. I need dat rubbbbbbeeeeeer

Well, they have Brazil. I'm sure Brazil would love to make friends with Bolivia.
I'll post later.
I eat Brazil.


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Atrilan
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Postby Atrilan » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:50 pm

Pacificora wrote:Ugh fine, I'll give Oromia, Addis Ababa and Dira Diwa independance on the condition they DO NOT form an imperial government, join the PCE, and the train line can stay.

Uh... that would make for a map which would physically repulse me. xD
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Leader - Antrinoxa Program
Capital - Avlose
Population - 73,892,891
Currency - Credit (₡)
Roleplay Information
2024: The Long Peace - People's Republic of China

THE TECHNOCRATIC STATE OF ATRILAN
COBALT NETWORK FOUNDER
Est. 2089
Post Modern

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Pacificora
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Founded: Aug 09, 2016
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Postby Pacificora » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:52 pm

Atrilan wrote:
Pacificora wrote:Ugh fine, I'll give Oromia, Addis Ababa and Dira Diwa independance on the condition they DO NOT form an imperial government, join the PCE, and the train line can stay.

Uh... that would make for a map which would physically repulse me. xD

I know, I noticed that too xD. My connection to the Somali region is sort of annoying. It would have been fine if Punt and Somaliland stayed, but no, they were the first to leave -.-
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Leader - Chancellor Zar Koranal
Capital - Pala
Population - 72,121,853
Currency - Kora (PAK)
Roleplay Information
2024: Global Warfare - PLANNED (International Entity)
Galactacia - PLANNED (Purian Order)
Sunset Invasion - PLANNED (Meeniyan Wonthaggi)
Green Sahara - PLANNED (Egypt, OP)

THE REPUBLIC OF PACIFICORA
COBALT NETWORK CO-CREATOR AND EX-PRESIDENT
Est. 2043
Post Modern
"The paths we choose, the risks we take, the hopes we hold, the mistakes we make. The hands we're dealt, the hours we wake, the ends we reach, the hearts we break. The lives we lead, the twists of fate, what we believe, what we forsake. The fears we never seem to shake, the distant shore, the moonlit lake."

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Atrilan
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Founded: Mar 11, 2016
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Postby Atrilan » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:53 pm

Pacificora wrote:
Atrilan wrote:Uh... that would make for a map which would physically repulse me. xD

I know, I noticed that too xD. My connection to the Somali region is sort of annoying. It would have been fine if Punt and Somaliland stayed, but no, they were the first to leave -.-

Where are the resources in Ethiopia?
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Leader - Antrinoxa Program
Capital - Avlose
Population - 73,892,891
Currency - Credit (₡)
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2024: The Long Peace - People's Republic of China

THE TECHNOCRATIC STATE OF ATRILAN
COBALT NETWORK FOUNDER
Est. 2089
Post Modern

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Pacificora
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Founded: Aug 09, 2016
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Postby Pacificora » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:54 pm

Atrilan wrote:
Pacificora wrote:I know, I noticed that too xD. My connection to the Somali region is sort of annoying. It would have been fine if Punt and Somaliland stayed, but no, they were the first to leave -.-

Where are the resources in Ethiopia?

http://www.bizbilla.com/country-maps/ma ... econmy.jpg

I may just give up stupid Somali as well. That would leave me with the stuff I thought I'd get post war before I received my warscore.
National Information
Leader - Chancellor Zar Koranal
Capital - Pala
Population - 72,121,853
Currency - Kora (PAK)
Roleplay Information
2024: Global Warfare - PLANNED (International Entity)
Galactacia - PLANNED (Purian Order)
Sunset Invasion - PLANNED (Meeniyan Wonthaggi)
Green Sahara - PLANNED (Egypt, OP)

THE REPUBLIC OF PACIFICORA
COBALT NETWORK CO-CREATOR AND EX-PRESIDENT
Est. 2043
Post Modern
"The paths we choose, the risks we take, the hopes we hold, the mistakes we make. The hands we're dealt, the hours we wake, the ends we reach, the hearts we break. The lives we lead, the twists of fate, what we believe, what we forsake. The fears we never seem to shake, the distant shore, the moonlit lake."

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Atrilan
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Founded: Mar 11, 2016
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Postby Atrilan » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:56 pm

Pacificora wrote:
Atrilan wrote:Where are the resources in Ethiopia?

http://www.bizbilla.com/country-maps/ma ... econmy.jpg

I may just give up stupid Somali as well. That would leave me with the stuff I thought I'd get post war before I received my warscore.

What about the SNNPR and Gambela, which would be an exclave?
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Leader - Antrinoxa Program
Capital - Avlose
Population - 73,892,891
Currency - Credit (₡)
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2024: The Long Peace - People's Republic of China

THE TECHNOCRATIC STATE OF ATRILAN
COBALT NETWORK FOUNDER
Est. 2089
Post Modern

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Pacificora
Minister
 
Posts: 3183
Founded: Aug 09, 2016
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Postby Pacificora » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:57 pm

Atrilan wrote:
Pacificora wrote: http://www.bizbilla.com/country-maps/ma ... econmy.jpg

I may just give up stupid Somali as well. That would leave me with the stuff I thought I'd get post war before I received my warscore.

What about the SNNPR and Gambela, which would be an exclave?

Nah becuase they border South Sudan. Perfect connection to them.
National Information
Leader - Chancellor Zar Koranal
Capital - Pala
Population - 72,121,853
Currency - Kora (PAK)
Roleplay Information
2024: Global Warfare - PLANNED (International Entity)
Galactacia - PLANNED (Purian Order)
Sunset Invasion - PLANNED (Meeniyan Wonthaggi)
Green Sahara - PLANNED (Egypt, OP)

THE REPUBLIC OF PACIFICORA
COBALT NETWORK CO-CREATOR AND EX-PRESIDENT
Est. 2043
Post Modern
"The paths we choose, the risks we take, the hopes we hold, the mistakes we make. The hands we're dealt, the hours we wake, the ends we reach, the hearts we break. The lives we lead, the twists of fate, what we believe, what we forsake. The fears we never seem to shake, the distant shore, the moonlit lake."

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Atrilan
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Founded: Mar 11, 2016
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Postby Atrilan » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:59 pm

Pacificora wrote:
Atrilan wrote:What about the SNNPR and Gambela, which would be an exclave?

Nah becuase they border South Sudan. Perfect connection to them.

Oh, they do, right. I'd say the agreement looks good, in that case.
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Leader - Antrinoxa Program
Capital - Avlose
Population - 73,892,891
Currency - Credit (₡)
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2024: The Long Peace - People's Republic of China

THE TECHNOCRATIC STATE OF ATRILAN
COBALT NETWORK FOUNDER
Est. 2089
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Balochistan and New York
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1314
Founded: Dec 05, 2016
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Postby Balochistan and New York » Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:00 pm

Entitaria wrote:
Pacificora wrote:And it's also time to deal with those stupid Arabs again...

They're covertly trading nuclear weapons, so you don't know about it currently.


i am looking to buy it, so how would i get to know about it?
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Balochistan and New York
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Founded: Dec 05, 2016
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Postby Balochistan and New York » Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:03 pm

Also k i will give into their demands, i want captalism anyways it will help my economy.
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Pacificora
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Founded: Aug 09, 2016
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Postby Pacificora » Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:04 pm

Well, sorry Enti, I'm trying to make it as difficult for you to hurt me as possible xD

I just feel like holding onto Oromia is more of a bother than just letting it go. And Somali, hmm, Somali. How do you think it would go down if I created a puppet state in Somali? Actually, ignore that, I'll just let them join the Republic of the African Horn. That way, all of us would be members of the PCE, and I can still negotiate connections with them.
National Information
Leader - Chancellor Zar Koranal
Capital - Pala
Population - 72,121,853
Currency - Kora (PAK)
Roleplay Information
2024: Global Warfare - PLANNED (International Entity)
Galactacia - PLANNED (Purian Order)
Sunset Invasion - PLANNED (Meeniyan Wonthaggi)
Green Sahara - PLANNED (Egypt, OP)

THE REPUBLIC OF PACIFICORA
COBALT NETWORK CO-CREATOR AND EX-PRESIDENT
Est. 2043
Post Modern
"The paths we choose, the risks we take, the hopes we hold, the mistakes we make. The hands we're dealt, the hours we wake, the ends we reach, the hearts we break. The lives we lead, the twists of fate, what we believe, what we forsake. The fears we never seem to shake, the distant shore, the moonlit lake."

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Balochistan and New York
Ambassador
 
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Founded: Dec 05, 2016
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Postby Balochistan and New York » Sat Dec 10, 2016 12:19 am

Thanks Entitaria, you actually helped me. You Rock :)
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Leashi
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 182
Founded: Aug 06, 2015
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Postby Leashi » Sat Dec 10, 2016 12:27 am

Well shit, looks like I can't really do anything peacefully anymore. There's nothing I can annex peacefully due to culture except for what I have. Guess I'll just start colonizing Antarctica or something
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Balochistan and New York
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Founded: Dec 05, 2016
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Postby Balochistan and New York » Sat Dec 10, 2016 12:43 am

Leashi wrote:Well shit, looks like I can't really do anything peacefully anymore. There's nothing I can annex peacefully due to culture except for what I have. Guess I'll just start colonizing Antarctica or something

How?
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Zhukovian
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Posts: 855
Founded: Feb 25, 2016
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Postby Zhukovian » Sat Dec 10, 2016 1:31 am

Thank you madame IE, I have a chance for Afghanistan, but the Holy Arabian Caliphate is really threathing maybe I could ease tensionsn through peaceful talks, I'll be buying their weapons :twisted:
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Leader - Grand Premier Jean-Baptiste Baillairgé
Capital - Zhukovia
Population - 10.7 billion
Currency - Mark
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2024: AGE OF SUPERPOWERS - Republic of the Philippines
STATE OF ZHUKOVIAN
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Zhukovian
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Founded: Feb 25, 2016
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Postby Zhukovian » Sat Dec 10, 2016 1:39 am

Thanks also because we have no riots but even worse a new International Threat, heheheh. PACIFICORA please tell me if you are ready and I need help for the military upgrades to rival this Arabs.
National Information
Leader - Grand Premier Jean-Baptiste Baillairgé
Capital - Zhukovia
Population - 10.7 billion
Currency - Mark
Roleplay Information
2024: AGE OF SUPERPOWERS - Republic of the Philippines
STATE OF ZHUKOVIAN
Ambassador of the New Western Empire
Est. 1089
Post Modern

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Pacificora
Minister
 
Posts: 3183
Founded: Aug 09, 2016
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Postby Pacificora » Sat Dec 10, 2016 1:43 am

Leashi wrote:Well shit, looks like I can't really do anything peacefully anymore. There's nothing I can annex peacefully due to culture except for what I have. Guess I'll just start colonizing Antarctica or something


The Geneva Conventions, Outer Space Treaty, Antarctic Treaty, etc. are completely cannon. You may resign from these, but not without repercussions.

This is from the OOC description.
National Information
Leader - Chancellor Zar Koranal
Capital - Pala
Population - 72,121,853
Currency - Kora (PAK)
Roleplay Information
2024: Global Warfare - PLANNED (International Entity)
Galactacia - PLANNED (Purian Order)
Sunset Invasion - PLANNED (Meeniyan Wonthaggi)
Green Sahara - PLANNED (Egypt, OP)

THE REPUBLIC OF PACIFICORA
COBALT NETWORK CO-CREATOR AND EX-PRESIDENT
Est. 2043
Post Modern
"The paths we choose, the risks we take, the hopes we hold, the mistakes we make. The hands we're dealt, the hours we wake, the ends we reach, the hearts we break. The lives we lead, the twists of fate, what we believe, what we forsake. The fears we never seem to shake, the distant shore, the moonlit lake."

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