Reign of the Heirs|Fantasy Medieval|Worldbuilding|DEAD

[Boergandina]

Oh, and as a note to anyone seeking character RP and a place to introduce themselves and start out, Terzi has a massive port full of all types of people: all races, all classes, all backgrounds, et cetera. Think of it as a medieval version of Mos Eisley spaceport. You could certainly have a classic adventure start from a tavern there.

Kozakura is teeming with monsters too. The underground caves of the Central Mountains are still unexplored. Who knows, you might stumble upon a King's hoard of precious metal!

We've inadvertently birthed a "noob zone".

[Kingdom of Irhk]

Quick question: Is there a Royal Guard of sorts?

[Kaledoria]

You like tables? I like tables!

(Today at work, I had a bit of off-time) For the following table I took my duchy's size and assumed a 2% military ratio and thereby got a population. A approximated every nations size in squares and a population density and therefrom calculated the other populations.
All the way to the right I added my personal take on military population and resulting troop quality for medieval times. 6% really just means giving some dudes a pointy stick and rusty metal shard and telling them: You guys rush that knight and when his sword gets stuck in one of your bodies, the others tackle him down, pull his helmet of and ram those thinks into his face. (Something that probably does not work, because people usually are to afraid to belong to the 1-3 people that will inevitably die before the others can overwhelm the professional soldier) (Okay, I guess a real spear or axe and a wooden round shield would be in, as well as a three-week crash course on how to use those weapon once or twice in the poor levyman's life (during the winter month when you can't do anything on the fields anyway)

Realm	Ruler	Army	-	Size (in map-squares)	population	pop. density (in 1/km²)	Elite army (1%)	Crap Army(6%)
Crownlands	High King Kandor Cavain	100000-x	-	11	1760000	20	17600	105600
Kingdom of Nordland	Lord King Walt Bismarck	5000	-	3	480000	20	4800	28800
The kingdom of Vitellia, the Pentarchy of cities.	Despot Gian Galeazzo Visconti	15000	-	5,25	1260000	30	12600	75600
Kingdom of Kozakura	King (?) Kozakura Honda	millions	-	7	1400000	25	14000	84000
Kingdom of Albion	Queen Regnant Kastra Lancaster	30000	-	3,25	520000	20	5200	31200
Kingdom of Gold Beard	Mountain king Hesperos Gold Beard	15000	-	2	400000	25	4000	24000
Grand Archduchy of Castorhold	Governor Tiberius Dakota Castor	many	-	3,7	888000	30	8880	53280
Free City of Essania	Chief Magister Pada Jeslan	2500+x	-	1,6	320000	25	3200	19200
Duchy of the Cinderlands	Draconis Absolute Ignis Volcanis	4150	-	1,6	224000	17,5	2240	13440
Duchy of Bhriotan	Duke Roland Creideamh	5500	-	1,25	250000	25	2500	15000
Duchy of Magh Meall	Duke Fergus Cimbáeth	6000	-	1,5	300000	25	3000	18000
County of Athela	Count Gale Tempaven	1200	-	1,75	350000	25	3500	21000
County of Arosta	Count Kastor of Arosta	650	-	-	-	-	-	-
Earldom of Azgul	Earl Eldon Barothy	1800 horsemen	-	-	-	-	-	-
Principality of Terzi	Prince Perceval Baha Yaqub Alcibiades Koç	Formerly 7920	-	0,5	120000	30	1200	7200
Earldoms of the Dál Riatas	Earl Aedan Loarn	2600	-	0,5	100000	25	1000	6000
Principali of Redwater	Prince Edwyn 'The Eagle'	-	-	0,75	150000	25	1500	9000
The High Elves	-	-	-	1,1	264000	30	2640	15840
The Wood Elves	-	-	-	0,9	180000	25	1800	10800
The Dark Elves	-	-	-	1	200000	25	2000	12000
The Sand Elves	-	-	-	1,25	250000	25	2500	15000
Orclands	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-

(Sorry for the decimal comma, my Open office is German )

If you wonder, the total population in this case would be 9.416 million people.

I took the population numbers from some site I lost the link from, if you want to compare it to your estimates, you can multiply the numbers with 2.59 to get the people per square mile.
As a baseline I used medieval Europe round about 1500, give or take a century (population was fluctuating there quite a bit depending on whether you counted right before or after a wave of black plague )
I set Vitellia, Castorhold, Terzi and the High Elves a bit higher because they have the "perfect climate belt" (although this does not really make sense at this scale but let's ignore that for now) and coastline
I set the Crownlands a little lower because far reaches of their land are steppe. Nordland and Albion are a little lower for being much Tundra and Cinderlands even lower then that for really having just rocks, lava and ice, which probably looks incredibly cool but is hard to exploit agriculturally.

Now the problem that comes with this is, that you can also calculate the absolute distances with that. And that would be 8000 km² per square = ca 90*90 km per square = ca 60*60 miles per square.
In other words, the central continent is about as big as the Hispanic peninsula! (Which works with the aforementioned 9 millions. In 1500 it was somewhat below that, because it was not as densely populated as France or Italy but in 1600 it got to the 9 and quickly to 10 million.
- I guess, we all imagined it slightly bigger.

We can scale the distances by 2 and thereby the area and population by 4. In that case we would definitely start do be somewhere reasonable and close to the population numbers that flew around in this thread before, iirc. However in that case, we should either be proportionally increasing the armies, too, or we accept, that in this game we will have unlikely small military numbers. - And really, I would be okay with small armies the only thing that really matters is, that we agree on one model

[Albertae]

Quick question: Is there a Royal Guard of sorts?

New Neros suggested that his Nords be a Varangian Guard of sorts. So I'll be using Nords I believe.

[The Forsworn Knights]

You like tables? I like tables!

(Today at work, I had a bit of off-time) For the following table I took my duchy's size and assumed a 2% military ratio and thereby got a population. A approximated every nations size in squares and a population density and therefrom calculated the other populations.
All the way to the right I added my personal take on military population and resulting troop quality for medieval times. 6% really just means giving some dudes a pointy stick and rusty metal shard and telling them: You guys rush that knight and when his sword gets stuck in one of your bodies, the others tackle him down, pull his helmet of and ram those thinks into his face. (Something that probably does not work, because people usually are to afraid to belong to the 1-3 people that will inevitably die before the others can overwhelm the professional soldier) (Okay, I guess a real spear or axe and a wooden round shield would be in, as well as a three-week crash course on how to use those weapon once or twice in the poor levyman's life (during the winter month when you can't do anything on the fields anyway)

Realm	Ruler	Army	-	Size (in map-squares)	population	pop. density (in 1/km²)	Elite army (1%)	Crap Army(6%)
Crownlands	High King Kandor Cavain	100000-x	-	11	1760000	20	17600	105600
Kingdom of Nordland	Lord King Walt Bismarck	5000	-	3	480000	20	4800	28800
The kingdom of Vitellia, the Pentarchy of cities.	Despot Gian Galeazzo Visconti	15000	-	5,25	1260000	30	12600	75600
Kingdom of Kozakura	King (?) Kozakura Honda	millions	-	7	1400000	25	14000	84000
Kingdom of Albion	Queen Regnant Kastra Lancaster	30000	-	3,25	520000	20	5200	31200
Kingdom of Gold Beard	Mountain king Hesperos Gold Beard	15000	-	2	400000	25	4000	24000
Grand Archduchy of Castorhold	Governor Tiberius Dakota Castor	many	-	3,7	888000	30	8880	53280
Free City of Essania	Chief Magister Pada Jeslan	2500+x	-	1,6	320000	25	3200	19200
Duchy of the Cinderlands	Draconis Absolute Ignis Volcanis	4150	-	1,6	224000	17,5	2240	13440
Duchy of Bhriotan	Duke Roland Creideamh	5500	-	1,25	250000	25	2500	15000
Duchy of Magh Meall	Duke Fergus Cimbáeth	6000	-	1,5	300000	25	3000	18000
County of Athela	Count Gale Tempaven	1200	-	1,75	350000	25	3500	21000
County of Arosta	Count Kastor of Arosta	650	-	-	-	-	-	-
Earldom of Azgul	Earl Eldon Barothy	1800 horsemen	-	-	-	-	-	-
Principality of Terzi	Prince Perceval Baha Yaqub Alcibiades Koç	Formerly 7920	-	0,5	120000	30	1200	7200
Earldoms of the Dál Riatas	Earl Aedan Loarn	2600	-	0,5	100000	25	1000	6000
Principali of Redwater	Prince Edwyn 'The Eagle'	-	-	0,75	150000	25	1500	9000
The High Elves	-	-	-	1,1	264000	30	2640	15840
The Wood Elves	-	-	-	0,9	180000	25	1800	10800
The Dark Elves	-	-	-	1	200000	25	2000	12000
The Sand Elves	-	-	-	1,25	250000	25	2500	15000
Orclands	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-

(Sorry for the decimal comma, my Open office is German )

If you wonder, the total population in this case would be 9.416 million people.

I took the population numbers from some site I lost the link from, if you want to compare it to your estimates, you can multiply the numbers with 2.59 to get the people per square mile.
As a baseline I used medieval Europe round about 1500, give or take a century (population was fluctuating there quite a bit depending on whether you counted right before or after a wave of black plague )
I set Vitellia, Castorhold, Terzi and the High Elves a bit higher because they have the "perfect climate belt" (although this does not really make sense at this scale but let's ignore that for now) and coastline
I set the Crownlands a little lower because far reaches of their land are steppe. Nordland and Albion are a little lower for being much Tundra and Cinderlands even lower then that for really having just rocks, lava and ice, which probably looks incredibly cool but is hard to exploit agriculturally.

Now the problem that comes with this is, that you can also calculate the absolute distances with that. And that would be 8000 km² per square = ca 90*90 km per square = ca 60*60 miles per square.
In other words, the central continent is about as big as the Hispanic peninsula! (Which works with the aforementioned 9 millions. In 1500 it was somewhat below that, because it was not as densely populated as France or Italy but in 1600 it got to the 9 and quickly to 10 million.
- I guess, we all imagined it slightly bigger.

We can scale the distances by 2 and thereby the area and population by 4. In that case we would definitely start do be somewhere reasonable and close to the population numbers that flew around in this thread before, iirc. However in that case, we should either be proportionally increasing the armies, too, or we accept, that in this game we will have unlikely small military numbers. - And really, I would be okay with small armies the only thing that really matters is, that we agree on one model

*You guys might have thought it was bigger, but *I thought it was as big as Spain before it was dank[/hipster]

[Albertae]

Guys. Should we have a timeskip to morning for the summit? The funeral will be prepared, but it will be after the summit.

[The Forsworn Knights]

Guys. Should we have a timeskip to morning for the summit? The funeral will be prepared, but it will be after the summit.

Yeah. Edwyn will probably slink back just before it starts.

[Albertae]

Guys. Should we have a timeskip to morning for the summit? The funeral will be prepared, but it will be after the summit.

Yeah. Edwyn will probably slink back just before it starts.

I'm just trying to figure who I could blame the murders on and who I can trust with the information ICly.

[Kingdom of Irhk]

Quick question: Is there a Royal Guard of sorts?

New Neros suggested that his Nords be a Varangian Guard of sorts. So I'll be using Nords I believe.

Now I'm starting to think for a less complicated character to make. Captains allowed?

[Albertae]

New Neros suggested that his Nords be a Varangian Guard of sorts. So I'll be using Nords I believe.

Now I'm starting to think for a less complicated character to make. Captains allowed?

Go ahead. How much could he trust your captain?

[Cainesland]

Character App:
Name: Tiberius Dakota Castor
Appearance: (Image)
(Image)
Titles: High Duke of Castorhold; Governor of Castorhold; Master of the territorial Army; Owner of the Bank of Castorhold.
Personality: Tiberius, or Tobias as he is known by his family, and Tiber as he is referred to by his military elites, is a man of virtues. He is honourable, and empathetic. Though he can often relate to others, he can also be firm so as to not be taken advantage of. He is rather curious of new tech, but has a cautious side to balance it. He likes to give people the benefit of the doubt, and on occasion a second chance, although sometimes those close to him don't give others that opportunity to protect Tiberius. By no means is he unintelligent however, on the contrary he is a rather bright fellow. He has a spectacular amount of patience, and is a keen observer. This has taken form in a number of daily activities from speech to game play. Developing a unique appearance to the Governor than other nobles.

Strengths: Tobias has a knack for falconry, and keeps a red tailed hawk as a pet for hunting purposes. He is good at politics and has a fair knowledge about business so he can keep up with the first and largest bank of the empire. He can play the Bagpipes well enough. He is a good hiker, and knows how to survive and navigate in the wilderness in case he gets stuck in the Castorhold countryside. He knows how to seordfight, and though opportunities for use in war are scarce he practices by fencing with nobles and assisting with putting down of the rare slave revolt. He is kept well informed of the realities of the empire by a daily newspaper, his advisors, and a spy service provided by the newspaper guild. He is well read and boasts an impressive library for slow times.

Weaknesses (Depending o who asks these can be strengths or weaknesses): His honour provides a chance to subtly attack him. His trusting nature, tempered by caution expierience observation and suspicion, can sometimes lead to points of weakness. His empathy and ability to read others, while helping him often can also lead to misconstruing a situation. When he feels he needs to be firm his firm stance can become an issue during negotiations, or be misunderstood as arrogance hotheadedness, or being stubborn. His forgiveness and charity are not always seen as proper or can be seen as a stance of weakness, and sometimes it isn't always reciprocated and had the potential of creating hard feelings between him and another person.

Weapons(Keep it to 3): An enchanted longsword that deals flame damage. A Repeating-crossbow. Greek-fire potions.
Armor: http://tamrielfoundry.com/wp-content/up ... salute.jpg and a shield.
Equipment: The resources of Castorhold; A journal, ink and quill; Spectacles; Map and compass; Travelling Gear; His weapons, armour & shield, and riding gear might also be called equipment.

Property: He is in charge of Castorhold, and owns most of its land and resources which he distributes to vassals. He resides in a few palatial estates around Castorhold, with his main residence being near the woodlands that are in the north west of the kingdom. But frequently resides in the south east to keep in contact with the miners, slavers, and financiers, but trusts his dukes and lords to keep there realms in order so he doesn't need to hip hop all over the place.
Immediate Family:
Victoria Hamilton Clifford (Passed on)
The ArchDuke Theodore "Teddy" Cornelius Castor
The GrandDuke Charles John Castor
The third son Calvin "Cal" Robert Castor
The 1st Daughter Magnolia "Maggie" Elizabeth Castor

Among other extended family members.
.

[The Forsworn Knights]

Character App:
Name: Tiberius Dakota Castor
Appearance: WIP
Titles: High Duke of Castorhold; Governor of Castorhold; Master of the territorial Army; Owner of the Bank of Castorhold.
Personality: Tiberius, or Tobias as he is known by his family, and Tiber as he is referred to by his military elites, is a man of virtues. He is honourable, and empathetic. Though he can often relate to others, he can also be firm so as to not be taken advantage of. He is rather curious of new tech, but has a cautious side to balance it. He likes to give people the benefit of the doubt, and on occasion a second chance, although sometimes those close to him don't give others that opportunity to protect Tiberius. By no means is he unintelligent however, on the contrary he is a rather bright fellow. He has a spectacular amount of patience, and is a keen observer. This has taken form in a number of daily activities from speech to game play. Developing a unique appearance to the Governor than other nobles.

Strengths: Tobias has a knack for falconry, and keeps a red tailed hawk as a pet for hunting purposes. He is good at politics and has a fair knowledge about business so he can keep up with the first and largest bank of the empire. He can play the Bagpipes well enough. He is a good hiker, and knows how to survive and navigate in the wilderness in case he gets stuck in the Castorhold countryside. He knows how to seordfight, and though opportunities for use in war are scarce he practices by fencing with nobles and assisting with putting down of the rare slave revolt. He is kept well informed of the realities of the empire by a daily newspaper, his advisors, and a spy service provided by the newspaper guild. He is well read and boasts an impressive library for slow times.

Weaknesses (Depending o who asks these can be strengths or weaknesses): His honour provides a chance to subtly attack him. His trusting nature, tempered by caution expierience observation and suspicion, can sometimes lead to points of weakness. His empathy and ability to read others, while helping him often can also lead to misconstruing a situation. When he feels he needs to be firm his firm stance can become an issue during negotiations, or be misunderstood as arrogance hotheadedness, or being stubborn. His forgiveness and charity are not always seen as proper or can be seen as a stance of weakness, and sometimes it isn't always reciprocated and had the potential of creating hard feelings between him and another person.

Weapons(Keep it to 3): An enchanted longsword that deals flame damage. A Repeating-crossbow. Greek-fire potions.
Armor: http://tamrielfoundry.com/wp-content/up ... salute.jpg and a shield.
Equipment: The resources of Castorhold; A journal, ink and quill; Spectacles; Map and compass; Travelling Gear; His weapons, armour & shield, and riding gear might also be called equipment.

Property: He is in charge of Castorhold, and owns most of its land and resources which he distributes to vassals. He resides in a few palatial estates around Castorhold, with his main residence being near the woodlands that are in the north west of the kingdom. But frequently resides in the south east to keep in contact with the miners, slavers, and financiers, but trusts his dukes and lords to keep there realms in order so he doesn't need to hip hop all over the place.
Family: WIP

The ArchDuke and GrandDuke are members of his family.

You still have some fields marked as 'WIP', please fill these in.

[Albertae]

Would anyone like to talk a among each other before I timeskip to the summit?

[The Forsworn Knights]

Edwyn/Whatsherface will be finishing their interactions as soon as Ik's post is up. Aside from that, I dont think anyone is in an important conversation currently.

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

Posted. You shouldn't have asked her. She's not helpful. You should've learned this by now.

[The Forsworn Knights]

Posted. You shouldn't have asked her. She's not helpful. You should've learned this by now.

I wonder why everyone keeps questioning me over Edwyn not being the brightest guy of the bunch when he is depressed, drunk, and in fear for his life.

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

Posted. You shouldn't have asked her. She's not helpful. You should've learned this by now.

I wonder why everyone keeps questioning me over Edwyn not being the brightest guy of the bunch when he is depressed, drunk, and in fear for his life.

This isn't a matter of his emotional state: she's been entirely unhelpful in answering anything thus far, even raising more questions than he might've started with.

This is how deities have fun these days.

[The Forsworn Knights]

I wonder why everyone keeps questioning me over Edwyn not being the brightest guy of the bunch when he is depressed, drunk, and in fear for his life.

This isn't a matter of his emotional state: she's been entirely unhelpful in answering anything thus far, even raising more questions than he might've started with.

This is how deities have fun these days.

I am referring more to why he makes such illogical decisions in these interactions.

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

This isn't a matter of his emotional state: she's been entirely unhelpful in answering anything thus far, even raising more questions than he might've started with.

This is how deities have fun these days.

I am referring more to why he makes such illogical decisions in these interactions.

And she's an enabler.

[Kaledoria]

Why would the murder of the King be "several month" ago? I mean after that, gathering the Lords of the realm should be such an urgent matter, that you can expect the summit to be within 10, maybe 15 days iirc the news of Cesar's death traveled through the roman Empire in 3 days or something and our streets are even better.

[Albertae]

Why would the murder of the King be "several month" ago? I mean after that, gathering the Lords of the realm should be such an urgent matter, that you can expect the summit to be within 10, maybe 15 days iirc the news of Cesar's death traveled through the roman Empire in 3 days or something and our streets are even better.

I don't know, but let's not get to complicated. Let's just say things needed to be handled and cleared up before the summit could happen or maybe it's just tradition.

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

Why would the murder of the King be "several month" ago? I mean after that, gathering the Lords of the realm should be such an urgent matter, that you can expect the summit to be within 10, maybe 15 days iirc the news of Cesar's death traveled through the roman Empire in 3 days or something and our streets are even better.

I don't know, but let's not get to complicated. Let's just say things needed to be handled and cleared up before the summit could happen or maybe it's just tradition.

Theoretically, the one organizing is also the murderer, so...

[The Forsworn Knights]

Just realized that I am the 100th IC post, where is my free cake?

[Cainesland]

Edited my app. I am unsure about appearance and am debating between William Lyon Mckenzie King and R.B.Bennett as an appearance. How does the rest look though?

[Boergandina]

Posted. You shouldn't have asked her. She's not helpful. You should've learned this by now.

I wonder why everyone keeps questioning me over Edwyn not being the brightest guy of the bunch when he is depressed, drunk, and in fear for his life.

Perceval believes Edwyn may be a little "special", but as a crown prince it's not like you can just stick Edwyn on a peasant farm and let him live a simple, fulfilling life. Therefore, Perceval will try to help him work past his "obvious disability" as best he can.

Yeah. Edwyn will probably slink back just before it starts.

I'm just trying to figure who I could blame the murders on and who I can trust with the information ICly.

Can't trust the Prince of Terzi with the info. He's not on the murderer's side, though he doesn't know who the murderer is yet.