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Postby Chewion » Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:30 am

Senator Carter: Aye
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Postby Prolieum » Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:05 am

Senate Floor


Senator Hazelelponi: "Aye"

House Floor


"The House will move into voting procedure on the bill. The clerk shall call the roll."
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Postby Pennsylvania and New Jersey » Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:10 pm

House Floor- Rep. Dole [R-NJ-5]
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Rep. Kiyoko: "Aye."
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Postby Alozia » Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:51 pm

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Sen.Kingston: Aye
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Postby Terdesuni » Fri Dec 30, 2016 8:11 pm

House Floor Rep. Pickett, MN

Pickett: Aye
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Postby Prolieum » Sat Dec 31, 2016 12:11 am

Senate Floor


"With that, the bill is passed, to be sent to the President and recommended for passage."

"The Senate will move to consider the "America's Safety Act". I call on the Senator from Missouri to lay out the bill."
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The Jaclean Empire
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Postby The Jaclean Empire » Sat Dec 31, 2016 1:20 am

Prolieum wrote:
Senate Floor


"With that, the bill is passed, to be sent to the President and recommended for passage."

"The Senate will move to consider the "America's Safety Act". I call on the Senator from Missouri to lay out the bill."

Senate Floor

"Thank you. Esteemed ladies and gentlemen of the Senate; it brings me great pain to have to bring this bill to the Senate. It saddens me immensely to see the many people displaced and damaged by the war in Syria. Even more sadly when the nations of Europe extended generous hands of mercy, they were met with a vile bite from the migrants, on the hand that feeds them. Of the millions of undocumented migrants that have plagued Europe, an overwhelming amount of them are unmarried childless young men. While this wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, the migrants have shown that they follow a strict interpretation of Islam that does not align with the modern values of the west. I do not blame Islam for this, moreso I blame the country from which these men arrive. Where they are allowed to rape and attack without real punishment. Since the Cologne mass rapes in Germany on New Year's Eve we have learned of a slew of migrant related crimes, mostly rapes, against native born peoples of the European nations. Numbering in the thousands women and people in general in many European states are afraid to leave their homes for fear of being attacked by migrants. These migrants, and many people who support them out of fear of being called "racist" or "Islamaphobic" have shown no regard for the nations that have fostered them and view Europe as theirs for the taking. An overwhelming number of them want the whole of Europe, and in turn the west, to succumb to their beliefs and their will. An a huge number of them wish for Sharia law to be instituted where they live. These migrants have shown no gratitude for the benefits and aid that they have received, burning down migrant centers because they "Did not have enough Nutella and Gummy Bears" and an ungodly amount of other related incidents that make my stomach churn to hear about. So what do I plan to do about it? First, I suggest that the United States take in no migrants from the middle east who have not first gone through an intense screening process. I do not discriminate against these people, and many of them are families trying to escape violent lands of hate and destruction. However, an even greater amount of the migrants from the Arab world wish to colonize the west and leech off of the benefits of the welfare states, not accepting western culture as their own, but attempting to make western nations accept their culture. I am not without compassion however, I ask that any money that would go towards taking in Syrian migrants, be instead used to form in cooperation with the UN and our European friends, safe zones in Syria where those disparaged by the war could go to receive aid that they need. And could stay there for whatever time they need to restore themselves to a necessary state of life. With that I am done with this long winded speech and hope that you, wonderful Senators to the people's interests, will join me in the fight to protect Americans and Western Civilization as a whole."
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Tumblrena » Sat Dec 31, 2016 7:14 am

Washington D.C.
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Senator Villanueva de Peña stands up to ask her question. "Senator, I here you keep saying "they" and "them" and "the migrants." Are you really treating them like they are all the same?"
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Postby Tectonix » Sat Dec 31, 2016 7:23 am

"Mr. President?

"Senator, you claim to not discriminate against Syrian migrants, yet you describe them as a 'plague' for Europe. I ask how your bill will assure the lack of discrimination against these migrants, as you have said you personally do not discriminate against them?"
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The Jaclean Empire
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Postby The Jaclean Empire » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:15 am

Tumblrena wrote:
Washington D.C.
United States Senate
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July 21
2016



Senator Villanueva de Peña stands up to ask her question. "Senator, I here you keep saying "they" and "them" and "the migrants." Are you really treating them like they are all the same?"

"I would never imply that they are all the same, no group of people are ever all the same. However at this point it is such an overwhelming majority that we must treat them all with the likelihood of being a threat.
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Postby Prolieum » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:16 am

"Senator, do you have any data supporting this idea that the "vast majority" of refugees are terrorists and criminals?"
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The Jaclean Empire
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Postby The Jaclean Empire » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:19 am

Tectonix wrote:"Mr. President?

"Senator, you claim to not discriminate against Syrian migrants, yet you describe them as a 'plague' for Europe. I ask how your bill will assure the lack of discrimination against these migrants, as you have said you personally do not discriminate against them?"

"To deny that they are a plague for Europe would just show a lack of knowledge. The rape rate and the crime rate in general has risen by huge percent margins with the arrival of migrants. But since the bill applies to all migrants from the middle east no matter of race, religion, gender, ethnicity, or age; I do not see how it could discriminate. "
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Postby Prolieum » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:21 am

Senate Floor


"For the purpose of elucidation, the Clerk will make the bill known."

"Senators, you may continue with the questioning session."


The United States Initiative To Vow Refusal to Syrian Migrants
The American's Safety Act


The United States Initiative to Vow Refusal to Syrian Migrants is a bill proposed by Senator Jack Scalise and calls for the acceptance of no migrants from Syria, except those who have gone through an extensive screening process. As noticed in the European nations, the Syrian migrants have done nothing but cause problems in the said nations. Very few have gotten jobs and most are living off of the extensive welfare offered by the generous European Welfare States. While made out to be families, anywhere between 72-85 % of these migrants are military age, unmarried, childless, men. These men have shown to have strict interpretation on Islam and every country they've been in has been subject to mass rape and a rise in terror and violence. Seeing as the US doesn't need to involve itself in this mess, this bill says that the US government does NOT take in any Syrian migrants without the proper screening, and only brings in a very small number of said migrants. Lest our great nation be subject to the horrors that face Europe.

Section 1:
Starting in 2014, when Angela Merkel the chancellor of Germany said that she would "throw open the gates of Europe" to Syrian "refugees", The refugee crisis as it is known has led to chaos and disorder. One needs only to look at Sweden for confirmation. Where thanks to migrants there are 123 men to every 100 women. And Sweden has become the rape capital of Europe. Opposition to the migrants first began with the mass rapes in Cologne Germany on New Year's eve by Islamic migrants. And since then has grown to be a serious movement as many realize that letting in millions of unknown men who follow a dangerous and hateful ideology into your nation could possibly cause the doom of your country. Rape and crime rates have risen in Europe and most of the migrants are unemployed. They have proven to be nothing but a burden and a danger to Europe, and would be the same in The United States. As such this bill requests that it be the intentions of The US government to accept no more than 5,000 Syrian migrants, and would only accept them after intense screening.

Section 2:
The bill also puts forth the request that the United States, in cooperation with the rest of the world, establish communities in Syria where those distraught by the war could live in shelter with steady supplies.
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The Jaclean Empire
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Postby The Jaclean Empire » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:31 am

Prolieum wrote:"Senator, do you have any data supporting this idea that the "vast majority" of refugees are terrorists and criminals?"

In England and Wales, officials claim that 56% of migrants were responsible for some criminal offense. Of which over a third were charged with "sex crimes". This is only the UK though, which has taken in significantly less migrants than Germany, Italy, Greece, or France. However this is just those that have been caught, when it comes to actually identifying and arresting migrants it is very difficult. German police even admit it is hard because the migrants lack any identification and tend to group up when they commit crimes. Not to mention governments around Europe are putting immense political pressure on the police to not arrest the migrants, lest they seem "islamaphobic". And let's not forget that crimes done by Muslims increased by 79% in Germany since then start of the migrant surge. People tend to blame Muslims which is wrong, and results in the peaceful Muslims of a country being viewed and hated unfairly.
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Canton Empire
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Canton Empire » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:36 am

"Senator, how can you explain banning immigrants from a country that was built on immigration?"
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The Jaclean Empire
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Postby The Jaclean Empire » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:41 am

Canton Empire wrote:"Senator, how can you explain banning immigrants from a country that was built on immigration?"

"Our country was built on legal immigration, not letting in millions of unknown and unregistered people. And even then our nation established quotas and eventually closed the door completely to mass migration. Like I said i have no problem letting in migrants who have first gone through an intense screening process.
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Canton Empire
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Postby Canton Empire » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:51 am

The Jaclean Empire wrote:
Canton Empire wrote:"Senator, how can you explain banning immigrants from a country that was built on immigration?"

"Our country was built on legal immigration, not letting in millions of unknown and unregistered people. And even then our nation established quotas and eventually closed the door completely to mass migration. Like I said i have no problem letting in migrants who have first gone through an intense screening process.

"I think you do, Senator. You assume that all Muslims are terrorists. We shouldn't be doing less, we should be doing more to bring in immigrants!"
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The Jaclean Empire
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Postby The Jaclean Empire » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:56 am

Canton Empire wrote:
The Jaclean Empire wrote:"Our country was built on legal immigration, not letting in millions of unknown and unregistered people. And even then our nation established quotas and eventually closed the door completely to mass migration. Like I said i have no problem letting in migrants who have first gone through an intense screening process.

"I think you do, Senator. You assume that all Muslims are terrorists. We shouldn't be doing less, we should be doing more to bring in immigrants!"

"I do not assume all Muslims are terrorists, in fact if you recall anything I've said I do not blame Muslims or even Islam. It is the differing culture of the Arab world that allows men to get away with rapes and assault, and a lack of an ability for the migrants to follow the laws of western nations. If we too let millions of people in from the Arab world theres a significant chance we will see the death of western culture, and when that happens we'll have nobody to blame but ourselves."
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Postby Argentarino » Sat Dec 31, 2016 12:45 pm

"Mr. President?

It appears that the Senator from Missouri has forgotten that all refugees go through an extensive screening process before they are brought to the United States. Before I ask my question, let us establish some facts. The refugees from the Middle East, like any other refugee considered for resettlement to the United States, must apply for resettlement at a refugee camp through the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees. Resettlement is determined by six criteria, and depending on the information given and uncovered by the UNHCR's background checks and vetting of the applicants, they will be resettled to a country determined by the UNHCR, not the applicant. Now, if the UNHCR, a US Embassy, or authorized NGO decides to resettle refugees to the United States, those refugees, before they even get on a ship or a plane, are extensively vetted by our intelligence agencies and other security apparatuses. The entire process takes anywhere from 18 to 24 months on average. Refugees on a whole are already the most extensively vetted of any category of traveler to the United States, the case is even more so for Syrian refugees. If we find something we don't like, such as ties to a terrorist organization, for example, we have the last say and can deny them entry to the United States. So, despite all of this, my question, Mr. President, is this: was the Senator aware of this process, and, now being made aware of this process, does he simply not care?"
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Postby The Jaclean Empire » Sat Dec 31, 2016 12:59 pm

Argentarino wrote:"Mr. President?

It appears that the Senator from Missouri has forgotten that all refugees go through an extensive screening process before they are brought to the United States. Before I ask my question, let us establish some facts. The refugees from the Middle East, like any other refugee considered for resettlement to the United States, must apply for resettlement at a refugee camp through the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees. Resettlement is determined by six criteria, and depending on the information given and uncovered by the UNHCR's background checks and vetting of the applicants, they will be resettled to a country determined by the UNHCR, not the applicant. Now, if the UNHCR, a US Embassy, or authorized NGO decides to resettle refugees to the United States, those refugees, before they even get on a ship or a plane, are extensively vetted by our intelligence agencies and other security apparatuses. The entire process takes anywhere from 18 to 24 months on average. Refugees on a whole are already the most extensively vetted of any category of traveler to the United States, the case is even more so for Syrian refugees. If we find something we don't like, such as ties to a terrorist organization, for example, we have the last say and can deny them entry to the United States. So, despite all of this, my question, Mr. President, is this: was the Senator aware of this process, and, now being made aware of this process, does he simply not care?"

I am a aware of this process, and while it provides a substantial amount of security in comparison to just letting millions run rampant through our country, it doesnt completely quell the fears of how the migrants commit rape and assault. Many of them do not have ties to terrorists, which is what this process mostly screens for. The bill stands to protect the people from mass migration of the refugees, as seen in europe. Which is why it states that 5,000 Syrian refugees will be taken in. And I am wiling to compromise on that number. My man focus is on unchecked migration from the middle East and north Africa.
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Argentarino
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Postby Argentarino » Sat Dec 31, 2016 1:20 pm

The Jaclean Empire wrote:
Argentarino wrote:"Mr. President?

It appears that the Senator from Missouri has forgotten that all refugees go through an extensive screening process before they are brought to the United States. Before I ask my question, let us establish some facts. The refugees from the Middle East, like any other refugee considered for resettlement to the United States, must apply for resettlement at a refugee camp through the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees. Resettlement is determined by six criteria, and depending on the information given and uncovered by the UNHCR's background checks and vetting of the applicants, they will be resettled to a country determined by the UNHCR, not the applicant. Now, if the UNHCR, a US Embassy, or authorized NGO decides to resettle refugees to the United States, those refugees, before they even get on a ship or a plane, are extensively vetted by our intelligence agencies and other security apparatuses. The entire process takes anywhere from 18 to 24 months on average. Refugees on a whole are already the most extensively vetted of any category of traveler to the United States, the case is even more so for Syrian refugees. If we find something we don't like, such as ties to a terrorist organization, for example, we have the last say and can deny them entry to the United States. So, despite all of this, my question, Mr. President, is this: was the Senator aware of this process, and, now being made aware of this process, does he simply not care?"

I am a aware of this process, and while it provides a substantial amount of security in comparison to just letting millions run rampant through our country, it doesnt completely quell the fears of how the migrants commit rape and assault. Many of them do not have ties to terrorists, which is what this process mostly screens for. The bill stands to protect the people from mass migration of the refugees, as seen in europe. Which is why it states that 5,000 Syrian refugees will be taken in. And I am wiling to compromise on that number. My man focus is on unchecked migration from the middle East and north Africa.


"Mr. President?

I motion that we move to debate on the question before us."
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Terdesuni
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Postby Terdesuni » Sat Dec 31, 2016 3:36 pm

HOUSE FLOOR Rep

Mr. Speaker, I would Like to propose a bill for future consideration in the House.

Official Name: Defense and Restoration of Independent Domestic Nation Rights Bill

nicknane: Hope Bill


Overview: Calls for the return of all lands seized from Independent Domestic Nations by the U.S. Government still in its possession, recognition to all native tribes, extended protections for all sacred sites, and increased investment in Independent Domestic Nations.

Section 1: Declares all secession, purchases, and outright seizure by the federal government of the United States illegal, null, and void along with all treaties, laws, ordinances, executive actions, or any other action or agreement that involved the seizure of Native American Territory.

Section 2: All land owned by the federal government of the United States that falls under Section 1 must be immediately returned to its proper Independent Domestic Nation.

Section 3: A special commission to oversee the enactment of Section 2, discussing the best way to transfer the lands with leaders of the Independent Domestic Nations, and then execute the decision in a timely fashion.

Section 4: The Special Commision from section 3 shall also serve to identify unrecognized Tribes whose land needs to be restored, and they shall be recognized as an Independent Domestic Nation with the restored lands.

Section 5:creates the designation 'National Sacred Site', which shall be protected from any development except for what is sanctioned by an overseeing council of tribal leaders from tribal groups connected to the site. The use for religious rite by tribal peoples will be given priority, however the land will be open in at least part for public visitors.

Section 6: The National Park Service and Department of the Interior will cooperate with tribal leaders to designate and protect all National Sacred Sites, to ensure Section 5 is put into effect.

Section 7: The federal government will provide financial aid in infrastructure and economic development projects in Independent Domestic Nations considered vital.

Section 7: Allows Independent Domestic Nations exemption from all non-federal laws and taxes, and the right to create their own taxes and laws for their resident citizens.

This bill is then honorably presented to House of Representatives for consideration in order to defend and restore Native American rights to improve the United States Law and is backed by Michael Pickett on 12/31/16.

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Tumblrena
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Tumblrena » Sat Dec 31, 2016 4:05 pm

Washington D.C.
United States Senate
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Thursday
July 21
2016

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Senator, you implement extreme vetting. Why are you setting an artificial limit if you have that?
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Postby Tectonix » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:42 am

Argentarino wrote:
The Jaclean Empire wrote:I am a aware of this process, and while it provides a substantial amount of security in comparison to just letting millions run rampant through our country, it doesnt completely quell the fears of how the migrants commit rape and assault. Many of them do not have ties to terrorists, which is what this process mostly screens for. The bill stands to protect the people from mass migration of the refugees, as seen in europe. Which is why it states that 5,000 Syrian refugees will be taken in. And I am wiling to compromise on that number. My man focus is on unchecked migration from the middle East and north Africa.


"Mr. President?

I motion that we move to debate on the question before us."

"Mr. President?

"I second the motion."
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