Mass Effect-Factions::The Harvest (OOC/OPEN)

[Durmatagno]

I'm working on everything and doing a lot of research. I have three things I wanna patent before anyone else dose. While there is no rule saying you cant steal ideas... it would be a jerk move...

Shields in the mass effect universe are centered on using controlled mass effect fields to disperse and stop kinetic energy. Shields that work against the heat of plasma, not just stopping the gas, would be either a REALLY advanced mass effect shield, or divergent tech, and for that, I'd personally say you'd need to start with one or two, maybe three prerequisite techs that all help, but aren't true sci-fi shields.

[Ironsbad]

I'm working on everything and doing a lot of research. I have three things I wanna patent before anyone else dose. While there is no rule saying you cant steal ideas... it would be a jerk move...

You have TG North your ideas and everything I was going to say about what you did, Durmatangno said for me. I'm still going to try my hand at something else, but Plasma Weapons I'm going for because it seems like something the Vorcha will do.

[Vladivostokava]

Hanar Rising has been edited.

I'm working on Nocturnal Rainbow right now.

[Vladivostokava]

What do you think? I'm reading alot.

[Ironsbad]

What do you think? I'm reading alot.

Again, your using the plasma shielding to render plasma and lasers useless. That's really advance, that's up there with my dark energy cannons. How did you come up to that at first? It could be accepted that you started working on increase kinetic barriers to deflect some of the heat from the plasma.

I already have an idea against it. Hell, it would be more like Vorcha to have it. Thing is, the Geth would try to think of something better that would have the same effect.

[Vladivostokava]

What do you think? I'm reading alot.

Again, your using the plasma shielding to render plasma and lasers useless. That's really advance, that's up there with my dark energy cannons. How did you come up to that at first? It could be accepted that you started working on increase kinetic barriers to deflect some of the heat from the plasma.

I already have an idea against it. Hell, it would be more like Vorcha to have it. Thing is, the Geth would try to think of something better that would have the same effect.

I haven't started this research IC. I'm waiting to find out that people even have plasma and laser weapons. Once I know about it then I start the work on it.

The tech of Nocturnal Cannibal has actual scientists and scientific publishers saying this is all possible. (Even with today tech to a point) Hanar Rising is just a good Idea I had while I was eating a McDonald's McMuffin. Jelly fell onto my phone camera and I wondered if my light could shine through the jelly. That was months ago but I remembered it when you started talking about your death-ray the other day. Then I googled "Jelly Shield" and found some stuff on it.

If its a matter of realism the I just cant respond to that. I'm not metta-gameing. Just foreshadowing on things I can make in the future. If its that is dosnt stick with lore friendly weapons: How did the Vorcha go from being planet-bound non-spacefaring race to one of the most advanced in the course of a few months to nearly 2 years. Cut me some slack Iron.

[Ironsbad]

Again, your using the plasma shielding to render plasma and lasers useless. That's really advance, that's up there with my dark energy cannons. How did you come up to that at first? It could be accepted that you started working on increase kinetic barriers to deflect some of the heat from the plasma.

I already have an idea against it. Hell, it would be more like Vorcha to have it. Thing is, the Geth would try to think of something better that would have the same effect.

I haven't started this research IC. I'm waiting to find out that people even have plasma and laser weapons. Once I know about it then I start the work on it.

The tech of Nocturnal Cannibal has actual scientists and scientific publishers saying this is all possible. (Even with today tech to a point) Hanar Rising is just a good Idea I had while I was eating a McDonald's McMuffin. Jelly fell onto my phone camera and I wondered if my light could shine through the jelly. That was months ago but I remembered it when you started talking about your death-ray the other day. Then I googled "Jelly Shield" and found some stuff on it.

If its a matter of realism the I just cant respond to that. I'm not metta-gameing. Just foreshadowing on things I can make in the future. If its that is dosnt stick with lore friendly weapons: How did the Vorcha go from being planet-bound non-spacefaring race to one of the most advanced in the course of a few months to nearly 2 years. Cut me some slack Iron.

Vorcha, advance?

HAHAHAHA

Nah, more like modernized and some had became Uncanny Valley. However, I'm sorry with that, didn't mean to criticize. I also haven't been approved of my tech so I'm not playing as the Vorcha as of right now because I have fucked up their canon too much.

[Vladivostokava]

I haven't started this research IC. I'm waiting to find out that people even have plasma and laser weapons. Once I know about it then I start the work on it.

The tech of Nocturnal Cannibal has actual scientists and scientific publishers saying this is all possible. (Even with today tech to a point) Hanar Rising is just a good Idea I had while I was eating a McDonald's McMuffin. Jelly fell onto my phone camera and I wondered if my light could shine through the jelly. That was months ago but I remembered it when you started talking about your death-ray the other day. Then I googled "Jelly Shield" and found some stuff on it.

If its a matter of realism the I just cant respond to that. I'm not metta-gameing. Just foreshadowing on things I can make in the future. If its that is dosnt stick with lore friendly weapons: How did the Vorcha go from being planet-bound non-spacefaring race to one of the most advanced in the course of a few months to nearly 2 years. Cut me some slack Iron.

Vorcha, advance?

HAHAHAHA

Nah, more like modernized and some had became Uncanny Valley. However, I'm sorry with that, didn't mean to criticize. I also haven't been approved of my tech so I'm not playing as the Vorcha as of right now because I have fucked up their canon too much.

Your cannons could cut down my whole fleet. I would call that advanced. lol. Don't leave. I need someone here to challenge me..

[Ironsbad]

Vorcha, advance?

HAHAHAHA

Nah, more like modernized and some had became Uncanny Valley. However, I'm sorry with that, didn't mean to criticize. I also haven't been approved of my tech so I'm not playing as the Vorcha as of right now because I have fucked up their canon too much.

Your cannons could cut down my whole fleet. I would call that advanced. lol. Don't leave. I need someone here to challenge me..

Advance weapons does not mean superior numbers. Even the super Thanix Cannons can still be blocked by Kinetics to some degree. So you are still able to bring me down, the Geth are another story.

[Vladivostokava]

Your cannons could cut down my whole fleet. I would call that advanced. lol. Don't leave. I need someone here to challenge me..

Advance weapons does not mean superior numbers. Even the super Thanix Cannons can still be blocked by Kinetics to some degree. So you are still able to bring me down, the Geth are another story.

Pardon when I say, the Geth are absolutely ridiculous. Im going to take ovre the turian hierarchy I Need to do a lot with them. Mostly restoring order in citadel space. I dont care about the terminus. But I am going to draw very CLEAR lines for territory between the terminus and citadel space.

[Ironsbad]

Advance weapons does not mean superior numbers. Even the super Thanix Cannons can still be blocked by Kinetics to some degree. So you are still able to bring me down, the Geth are another story.

Pardon when I say, the Geth are absolutely ridiculous. Im going to take ovre the turian hierarchy I Need to do a lot with them. Mostly restoring order in citadel space. I dont care about the terminus. But I am going to draw very CLEAR lines for territory between the terminus and citadel space.

True, but I think after this war, there is going to be a dark age with everyone focusing on rebuilding and I aim for the Vorcha to be knocked down back to their roots if I come back.

[Vladivostokava]

Pardon when I say, the Geth are absolutely ridiculous. Im going to take ovre the turian hierarchy I Need to do a lot with them. Mostly restoring order in citadel space. I dont care about the terminus. But I am going to draw very CLEAR lines for territory between the terminus and citadel space.

True, but I think after this war, there is going to be a dark age with everyone focusing on rebuilding and I aim for the Vorcha to be knocked down back to their roots if I come back.

Nocturnal Rainbows will be pretty cool. I need to work things out but I have lots of ideas! I am going to turn the Hierarchy Around. I just have to demote the current Primarch. I have an Idea for that... BUT>>>>>>>>>> I would have to work with you...

The idea is that Primarch Viclin goes and talks with you and the Geth... risking her career. She brings the news personally to the Primarch of Palaven.. They throw her in jail for being nuts and a traitor. Well.. after some news about the reapers come, then the turian people demand that Viclin is released. Well the primarch will comply with the will of the people and out of shame he commits suicide or simply steps down. From there Primarch Viclin is given power.



Yea... BUT there is a plan B. Just retcon everything I have posted and make her the leader.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Advance weapons does not mean superior numbers. Even the super Thanix Cannons can still be blocked by Kinetics to some degree. So you are still able to bring me down, the Geth are another story.

Pardon when I say, the Geth are absolutely ridiculous. Im going to take ovre the turian hierarchy I Need to do a lot with them. Mostly restoring order in citadel space. I dont care about the terminus. But I am going to draw very CLEAR lines for territory between the terminus and citadel space.

You're just jealous that mere machines managed to build something larger than every Turian world put together

Oh, also, Durm? I noticed you're colonizing Sarapai in the Tassrah System. Technically the Geth maintain a secret military outpost there, along with a large fleet to secure the entrance to the Veil. So, hah, colonization of that system might not go off without a hitch.

[Vladivostokava]

Pardon when I say, the Geth are absolutely ridiculous. Im going to take ovre the turian hierarchy I Need to do a lot with them. Mostly restoring order in citadel space. I dont care about the terminus. But I am going to draw very CLEAR lines for territory between the terminus and citadel space.

You're just jealous that mere machines managed to build something larger than every Turian world put together

Oh, also, Durm? I noticed you're colonizing Sarapai in the Tassrah System. Technically the Geth maintain a secret military outpost there, along with a large fleet to secure the entrance to the Veil. So, hah, colonization of that system might not go off without a hitch.

Wanna look at my tech on the last page? its just ideas. Im working on Nocturnal cannibal now.

[Vladivostokava]

Pardon when I say, the Geth are absolutely ridiculous. Im going to take ovre the turian hierarchy I Need to do a lot with them. Mostly restoring order in citadel space. I dont care about the terminus. But I am going to draw very CLEAR lines for territory between the terminus and citadel space.

You're just jealous that mere machines managed to build something larger than every Turian world put together (That is absolutely insane. Especially the time frame it was built in. )

[G-Tech Corporation]

You're just jealous that mere machines managed to build something larger than every Turian world put together

Oh, also, Durm? I noticed you're colonizing Sarapai in the Tassrah System. Technically the Geth maintain a secret military outpost there, along with a large fleet to secure the entrance to the Veil. So, hah, colonization of that system might not go off without a hitch.

Wanna look at my tech on the last page? its just ideas. Im working on Nocturnal Rainbow now.

The plasma shielding is very fluffy, I like. I once used shields akin to what you are proposing on my FT nation. Obviously there are downsides to the tech, given that most nations' kinetics in ME will punch right through your defenses, and you'll be shooting blind when the shields are up. Also, iirc, it takes a not insubstantial period of time to 'raise' such shields, that is, generate and circulate enough ionized plasma to stop sufficiently energetic incoming beams. But it's a good idea nonetheless.

As far as the ceramic jelly, I'm a bit more dubious. I would have said it made sense from the standpoint of distributing heat within a hull, a sort of thermal capacitor, but you're saying it's actually on the outside of the hull? Wouldn't it strip away during any form of spaceflight or superluminal transit?

Honestly, I would just make up some technobabble. This is the far future where blue women rule the galaxy and handwavium makes the series possible. Make up some fluffy new material, optically aligned thermally opaque nanotubes or whatever, and say they significantly harden your ships against incoming energy weapons. Good to put on fighters to counter GARDIAN systems, and capitals to counter Vorcha Deathrays. State that, call them +40% in ship production cost, and call it good.

[G-Tech Corporation]

You're just jealous that mere machines managed to build something larger than every Turian world put together (That is absolutely insane. Especially the time frame it was built in. )

Mhm. I completely agree, but the Geth did it in canon, so they're obviously productive little metalmen. Current estimates for a Dyson Sphere's construction require the complete conversion of about two dozen Sol-like systems in to fabrication material.

Though, the timeframe is really less of an issue, when you consider the processing capabilities the Geth retain. Von Neumann projections for a Dyson Swarm, a simpler form of the Sphere, clock in at about a tenth of the time the Geth spent in canon. Realistically, each part of the swarm put in orbit will pull in untold amounts of energy just by itself, which can be used to upcycle mining and manufacturing efforts in a cascading feedback loop.

[Vladivostokava]

Wanna look at my tech on the last page? its just ideas. Im working on Nocturnal Rainbow now.

The plasma shielding is very fluffy, I like. I once used shields akin to what you are proposing on my FT nation. Obviously there are downsides to the tech, given that most nations' kinetics in ME will punch right through your defenses, and you'll be shooting blind when the shields are up. Also, iirc, it takes a not insubstantial period of time to 'raise' such shields, that is, generate and circulate enough ionized plasma to stop sufficiently energetic incoming beams. But it's a good idea nonetheless.

As far as the ceramic jelly, I'm a bit more dubious. I would have said it made sense from the standpoint of distributing heat within a hull, a sort of thermal capacitor, but you're saying it's actually on the outside of the hull? Wouldn't it strip away during any form of spaceflight or superluminal transit?

Honestly, I would just make up some technobabble. This is the far future where blue women rule the galaxy and handwavium makes the series possible. Make up some fluffy new material, optically aligned thermally opaque nanotubes or whatever, and say they significantly harden your ships against incoming energy weapons. Good to put on fighters to counter GARDIAN systems, and capitals to counter Vorcha Deathrays. State that, call them +40% in ship production cost, and call it good.

The whole idea is that the jelly is pretty much inexpensive and secretly turns out to be an almost simple technology. I like to think of it like a coating of paint. if lasers are aloud to hit the hulls of the craft that could create more heat. It would make the jelly useless.

The plasma shield would be a much more expensive laser and plasma deterrent. But would be pretty darn effective save not being able to see.

Can you work with me on the price?

[Ironsbad]

The plasma shielding is very fluffy, I like. I once used shields akin to what you are proposing on my FT nation. Obviously there are downsides to the tech, given that most nations' kinetics in ME will punch right through your defenses, and you'll be shooting blind when the shields are up. Also, iirc, it takes a not insubstantial period of time to 'raise' such shields, that is, generate and circulate enough ionized plasma to stop sufficiently energetic incoming beams. But it's a good idea nonetheless.

As far as the ceramic jelly, I'm a bit more dubious. I would have said it made sense from the standpoint of distributing heat within a hull, a sort of thermal capacitor, but you're saying it's actually on the outside of the hull? Wouldn't it strip away during any form of spaceflight or superluminal transit?

Honestly, I would just make up some technobabble. This is the far future where blue women rule the galaxy and handwavium makes the series possible. Make up some fluffy new material, optically aligned thermally opaque nanotubes or whatever, and say they significantly harden your ships against incoming energy weapons. Good to put on fighters to counter GARDIAN systems, and capitals to counter Vorcha Deathrays. State that, call them +40% in ship production cost, and call it good.

The whole idea is that the jelly is pretty much inexpensive and secretly turns out to be an almost simple technology. I like to think of it like a coating of paint. if lasers are aloud to hit the hulls of the craft that could create more heat. It would make the jelly useless.

The plasma shield would be a much more expensive laser and plasma deterrent. But would be pretty darn effective save not being able to see.

Can you work with me on the price?

Still going to at least try and overpower you with Vorcha corvette swarms with my death rays!!

[Vladivostokava]

also, i like to say that the jelly not only distributes heat. But it also disperses the light and radiation of the laser. basically it stops the focusing of the laser enough to make it a little less effective.

[Vladivostokava]

The whole idea is that the jelly is pretty much inexpensive and secretly turns out to be an almost simple technology. I like to think of it like a coating of paint. if lasers are aloud to hit the hulls of the craft that could create more heat. It would make the jelly useless.

The plasma shield would be a much more expensive laser and plasma deterrent. But would be pretty darn effective save not being able to see.

Can you work with me on the price?

Still going to at least try and overpower you with Vorcha corvette swarms with my death rays!!

Yep. I have a counter to that too. Nocturnal Cannibal.

Nocturnal Rainbow is plasma/ laser protection. (Hard)
Hanar Rising is laser defocusing materials. (Soft)
Nocturnal Cannibal is the counter to swarms of craft.

[Ironsbad]

Still going to at least try and overpower you with Vorcha corvette swarms with my death rays!!

Yep. I have a counter to that too. Nocturnal Cannibal.

Nocturnal Rainbow is plasma/ laser protection. (Hard)
Hanar Rising is laser defocusing materials. (Soft)
Nocturnal Cannibal is the counter to swarms of craft.

True, yet come in with bigger guns will win every time for nothing is over but overkill.

[G-Tech Corporation]

The plasma shielding is very fluffy, I like. I once used shields akin to what you are proposing on my FT nation. Obviously there are downsides to the tech, given that most nations' kinetics in ME will punch right through your defenses, and you'll be shooting blind when the shields are up. Also, iirc, it takes a not insubstantial period of time to 'raise' such shields, that is, generate and circulate enough ionized plasma to stop sufficiently energetic incoming beams. But it's a good idea nonetheless.

As far as the ceramic jelly, I'm a bit more dubious. I would have said it made sense from the standpoint of distributing heat within a hull, a sort of thermal capacitor, but you're saying it's actually on the outside of the hull? Wouldn't it strip away during any form of spaceflight or superluminal transit?

Honestly, I would just make up some technobabble. This is the far future where blue women rule the galaxy and handwavium makes the series possible. Make up some fluffy new material, optically aligned thermally opaque nanotubes or whatever, and say they significantly harden your ships against incoming energy weapons. Good to put on fighters to counter GARDIAN systems, and capitals to counter Vorcha Deathrays. State that, call them +40% in ship production cost, and call it good.

The whole idea is that the jelly is pretty much inexpensive and secretly turns out to be an almost simple technology. I like to think of it like a coating of paint. if lasers are aloud to hit the hulls of the craft that could create more heat. It would make the jelly useless.

The plasma shield would be a much more expensive laser and plasma deterrent. But would be pretty darn effective save not being able to see.

Can you work with me on the price?

Hmm, perhaps. But anything thin enough to be cheap to apply en masse is going to have pretty negligible vaporization resistance against the order of magnitude of energy I'm presuming energy weapons kick out. Still, if you have the right slurry of bonded macromolecules, they can be pretty tough to cook away.

Sure, let's see. We're basically talking Silaris Armor, but less general utility, more replicating beneficial effects against lasers and other electromagnetic radiation weapons. My first instinct would be to class that in at ~40-50 RP, representing a reasonably new effort in technology, but one which is designed to build on existing concepts. Then talking Credit price, the matter is slightly more complicated- basically, the more you spend on the research, the cheaper the actual upgrade will be. I'm thinking, say, 300 Credits for the research and a 35% increase in ship price to apply the upgrade itself.

[Vladivostokava]

Yep. I have a counter to that too. Nocturnal Cannibal.

Nocturnal Rainbow is plasma/ laser protection. (Hard)
Hanar Rising is laser defocusing materials. (Soft)
Nocturnal Cannibal is the counter to swarms of craft.

True, yet come in with bigger guns will win every time for nothing is over but overkill.

Have a plan for that too. But I am waiting on that. Saving that for, **

**REAPERS!!!!!

[Vladivostokava]

The whole idea is that the jelly is pretty much inexpensive and secretly turns out to be an almost simple technology. I like to think of it like a coating of paint. if lasers are aloud to hit the hulls of the craft that could create more heat. It would make the jelly useless.

The plasma shield would be a much more expensive laser and plasma deterrent. But would be pretty darn effective save not being able to see.

Can you work with me on the price?

Hmm, perhaps. But anything thin enough to be cheap to apply en masse is going to have pretty negligible vaporization resistance against the order of magnitude of energy I'm presuming energy weapons kick out. Still, if you have the right slurry of bonded macromolecules, they can be pretty tough to cook away.

Sure, let's see. We're basically talking Silaris Armor, but less general utility, more replicating beneficial effects against lasers and other electromagnetic radiation weapons. My first instinct would be to class that in at ~40-50 RP, representing a reasonably new effort in technology, but one which is designed to build on existing concepts. Then talking Credit price, the matter is slightly more complicated- basically, the more you spend on the research, the cheaper the actual upgrade will be. I'm thinking, say, 300 Credits for the research and a 35% increase in ship price to apply the upgrade itself.

So thats Hanar Rising
And what about Nocturnal Rainbow?