Twilight of the Galaxy (OOC, Open) [Reupload in Progress]

[The Empire of Pretantia]

You're fucked/10.

How so? My nation is entirely comprised of obligate telepaths with a predator mindset. There are no comms to hack, no codes to unlock, and they're better than most everyone at psionics by the sheer virtue that it's the only way they can communicate. They range between 2.5-3 meters tall, average at 180-something kilograms, and can lift things two to three times their weight with relative ease. They're built to fight on the ground. Even if you get around the fleets, no way is anyone beating the Niktal without just firebombing the planets from orbit.

Beating the Niktal from orbit counts as beating the Niktal. I'm not going to bother comparing them to Orso grenadiers for right now.

[The Greater Gambia]

How so? My nation is entirely comprised of obligate telepaths with a predator mindset. There are no comms to hack, no codes to unlock, and they're better than most everyone at psionics by the sheer virtue that it's the only way they can communicate. They range between 2.5-3 meters tall, average at 180-something kilograms, and can lift things two to three times their weight with relative ease. They're built to fight on the ground. Even if you get around the fleets, no way is anyone beating the Niktal without just firebombing the planets from orbit.

Beating the Niktal from orbit counts as beating the Niktal. I'm not going to bother comparing them to Orso grenadiers for right now.

Yeah, I could go into each species of the Federation, but that would just devolve into dick measuring.

[The Orson Empire]

My post is up.

also, how big is everybody's navy?

Another question: how big are your ships on average?

Our largest dreadnoughts are 45 kilometers in length.

However, if you read my first post, you saw that the Overlord was visiting this new dreadnought that was under construction and nearing completion. This new ship is a hyperdreadnought that is 80 kilometers in length and one of the most technologically advanced ships in the galaxy. Some of the technology on this ship is reverse-engineered from tech we have discovered in ancient alien ruins. A ship this size also requires an incomprehensibly large amount of power, so it is equipped with an experimental zero-point energy reactor.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

My post is up.

Another question: how big are your ships on average?

Our largest dreadnoughts are 45 kilometers in length.

However, if you read my first post, you saw that the Overlord was visiting this new dreadnought that was under construction and nearing completion. This new ship is a hyperdreadnought that is 80 kilometers in length and one of the most technologically advanced ships in the galaxy. Some of the technology on this ship is reverse-engineered from tech we have discovered in ancient alien ruins. A ship this size also requires an incomprehensibly large amount of power, so it is equipped with an experimental zero-point energy reactor.

>On average

[Maljaratas]

What would be the most updated map? (so I can make a claim)

#Nuetral (Formics)

[The Orson Empire]

My post is up.


Our largest dreadnoughts are 45 kilometers in length.

However, if you read my first post, you saw that the Overlord was visiting this new dreadnought that was under construction and nearing completion. This new ship is a hyperdreadnought that is 80 kilometers in length and one of the most technologically advanced ships in the galaxy. Some of the technology on this ship is reverse-engineered from tech we have discovered in ancient alien ruins. A ship this size also requires an incomprehensibly large amount of power, so it is equipped with an experimental zero-point energy reactor.

>On average

Well that's kinda hard to say, since we have several different ship classes that are all different sizes.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

>On average

Well that's kinda hard to say, since we have several different ship classes that are all different sizes.

What's your average ship?

[The Orson Empire]

Well that's kinda hard to say, since we have several different ship classes that are all different sizes.

What's your average ship?

There is none.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

What's your average ship?

There is none.

Not a cruiser? No ship of the line? Just a random assortment of ships from one to a hundred km (Figuratively speaking)?

[The V O I D]

What's happened, guys?

[The Fallen Jedi]

Y'all be ganging up on the #Council, The Dynasty might provide resources if it comes to that

[The Greater Gambia]

Y'all be ganging up on the #Council, The Dynasty might provide resources if it comes to that

We already agreed to limit members of the alliance for the moment.

[Plzen]

also, how big is everybody's navy?

Another question: how big are your ships on average?

I answered both these questions on an earlier OOC post.

So how big a military can the UNS reasonably field?

Okay. So apparently RL destroyers are about 150~200 meters long and cost about 2 to 4 billion dollars.

Assuming cost is proportional to the cube of the length and that space warships in this RP cost at one hundred times as much as a naval warship does, that means that my functional ships of 2~3 and 6~7m in length will cost $400,000 to $1,200,000 and $15 million to $20 million respectively. Decoys will of course cost considerably less, but they still need engines and stuff. So if I use fishing vessels as a price model and apply that same x100 multiplier, I get roughly $150,000 for my decoy vessels.

A combat drone is basically an all-terrain light tank, so let's call that $100,000 per unit, since that seems to be the RL cost of a low-end light tank from a rich country.

Considering my net GDP of about 6 quadrillion Credits, assuming a military spending to GDP ratio of 0.02% and assuming that said spending is split roughly evenly between land forces and space forces, then the latter again between small spaceships and larger spaceships, and assuming a Credit is worth five $ in purchasing power, that leaves roughly 3 trillion dollars of purchasing power for each category of military equipment.

Which is roughly 30 million combat drones, a little over 2 million light ships, and 700 thousand heavy ships manufactured per year. I'll have to adjust my IC production stats to match this calculation.

Assuming that the UNS discards equipment older than 20 to 25 years, that means I can field 700 million combat drones, 50 million light ships, and 15 million heavy ships.

Of course, that means that even my heaviest warships will by tiny compared to everyone else's, but something about the concept of fielding millions and millions of ships pleases me.

The summary is that the UNS has roughly 65 million ships of 2~7 meters in length.

Swarm warfare. Hurrah!

You guys should run through that with your economic figures and ship sizes and see what kind of number you get. It would be interesting.

What economy?

The process of turning natural resources, labor, and capital into products. How good your civilization is at doing that sort of limits the size of your fleet, for obvious reasons.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Finding a pic to illustrate the size and firepower of a grenadier once again proves difficult without resorting to terminator armor with a missile launcher. I can't use the one I used the first time.

[Trotza]

Hey Plzen, got a IC post for you to respond to.

[Plzen]

Hey Plzen, got a IC post for you to respond to.

Yeah, I'm trying to figure out what my response should be. In any case, I can't write a good IC post until I'm back home in a few hours.

[The Orson Empire]

Another question: how big are your ships on average?

I answered both these questions on an earlier OOC post.

So how big a military can the UNS reasonably field?

Okay. So apparently RL destroyers are about 150~200 meters long and cost about 2 to 4 billion dollars.

Assuming cost is proportional to the cube of the length and that space warships in this RP cost at one hundred times as much as a naval warship does, that means that my functional ships of 2~3 and 6~7m in length will cost $400,000 to $1,200,000 and $15 million to $20 million respectively. Decoys will of course cost considerably less, but they still need engines and stuff. So if I use fishing vessels as a price model and apply that same x100 multiplier, I get roughly $150,000 for my decoy vessels.

A combat drone is basically an all-terrain light tank, so let's call that $100,000 per unit, since that seems to be the RL cost of a low-end light tank from a rich country.

Considering my net GDP of about 6 quadrillion Credits, assuming a military spending to GDP ratio of 0.02% and assuming that said spending is split roughly evenly between land forces and space forces, then the latter again between small spaceships and larger spaceships, and assuming a Credit is worth five $ in purchasing power, that leaves roughly 3 trillion dollars of purchasing power for each category of military equipment.

Which is roughly 30 million combat drones, a little over 2 million light ships, and 700 thousand heavy ships manufactured per year. I'll have to adjust my IC production stats to match this calculation.

Assuming that the UNS discards equipment older than 20 to 25 years, that means I can field 700 million combat drones, 50 million light ships, and 15 million heavy ships.

Of course, that means that even my heaviest warships will by tiny compared to everyone else's, but something about the concept of fielding millions and millions of ships pleases me.

The summary is that the UNS has roughly 65 million ships of 2~7 meters in length.

Swarm warfare. Hurrah!

What economy?

The process of turning natural resources, labor, and capital into products. How good your civilization is at doing that sort of limits the size of your fleet, for obvious reasons.

65 million?

Even if they are that small, that kinda seems extreme...

[The Greater Gambia]

My average ship, the Belka-Class Cruiser is about 2.6 Km. Usually, my stuff is no bigger than 12km with the exception of one ship that's about 50 km (which I'm even thinking of scrapping), but I'm upscaling my ships to work with the set limits that Fallen set up.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Most ships are cruisers in the 1-10km range. Dreadnoughts and carriers are the largest ships, and there's about 2-3 each per fleet.

[Plzen]

I answered both these questions on an earlier OOC post.

The summary is that the UNS has roughly 65 million ships of 2~7 meters in length.

Swarm warfare. Hurrah!


The process of turning natural resources, labor, and capital into products. How good your civilization is at doing that sort of limits the size of your fleet, for obvious reasons.

65 million?

Even if they are that small, that kinda seems extreme...

Well, the weakest assumption in my calculations is that spaceships will only be a hundred times more expensive than their seagoing equivalent. Right now, that seems hopelessly optimistic.

But if necessary, I can justify that figure by saying that if the costs of spaceships are any higher than that, we're not getting a space opera at all.

[The Orson Empire]

Most ships are cruisers in the 1-10km range. Dreadnoughts and carriers are the largest ships, and there's about 2-3 each per fleet.

I guess the average ship would be the Dronis-class light cruiser, which is around 1.5 kilometers long.

[The Republic of Atria]

We only gots one type of ship which is pretty much just a transport ship. 50 total.

An 80.5km behemoth Ultra Carrier

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Most ships are cruisers in the 1-10km range. Dreadnoughts and carriers are the largest ships, and there's about 2-3 each per fleet.

You know what, I'm gonna move back to the more diverse variety rather than just the "big ship, little ship" I got going right now.

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

Trace? Hello?

[Maljaratas]

Another question: how big are your ships on average?

I answered both these questions on an earlier OOC post.

So how big a military can the UNS reasonably field?

Okay. So apparently RL destroyers are about 150~200 meters long and cost about 2 to 4 billion dollars.

Assuming cost is proportional to the cube of the length and that space warships in this RP cost at one hundred times as much as a naval warship does, that means that my functional ships of 2~3 and 6~7m in length will cost $400,000 to $1,200,000 and $15 million to $20 million respectively. Decoys will of course cost considerably less, but they still need engines and stuff. So if I use fishing vessels as a price model and apply that same x100 multiplier, I get roughly $150,000 for my decoy vessels.

A combat drone is basically an all-terrain light tank, so let's call that $100,000 per unit, since that seems to be the RL cost of a low-end light tank from a rich country.

Considering my net GDP of about 6 quadrillion Credits, assuming a military spending to GDP ratio of 0.02% and assuming that said spending is split roughly evenly between land forces and space forces, then the latter again between small spaceships and larger spaceships, and assuming a Credit is worth five $ in purchasing power, that leaves roughly 3 trillion dollars of purchasing power for each category of military equipment.

Which is roughly 30 million combat drones, a little over 2 million light ships, and 700 thousand heavy ships manufactured per year. I'll have to adjust my IC production stats to match this calculation.

Assuming that the UNS discards equipment older than 20 to 25 years, that means I can field 700 million combat drones, 50 million light ships, and 15 million heavy ships.

Of course, that means that even my heaviest warships will by tiny compared to everyone else's, but something about the concept of fielding millions and millions of ships pleases me.

The summary is that the UNS has roughly 65 million ships of 2~7 meters in length.

Swarm warfare. Hurrah!

What economy?

The process of turning natural resources, labor, and capital into products. How good your civilization is at doing that sort of limits the size of your fleet, for obvious reasons.

There are very few actual products here... plus no concept of money. We got transport vehicles, weapons of war, tools, food, buildings, nessacary comforts, and factories to build said stuff. That's about it.

In regards to ships and claims, I will get to those tomorrow.