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Postby Boergandina » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:53 pm

With the Übermensch, I intend to subvert this trend of antiheroes- a hero that is literally a Nazi, but strives to right wrongs, fight injustice, and revert the world's opinion of the German people.
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Postby Icthyia » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:55 pm

The Republic of Atria wrote:
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I understand, I personally do not enjoy white/black settings where there is no room for exploration of personal trauma or moral ambiguity. I generally wanted to focus on the character's struggle with his own past and anger, but I understand if the OP wants a more family friendly Avengers style RP, as those can be good too. I'll admit at the least, the graphic portion of the app can be changed to be more ambiguous.

I'll wait to see if he's fine with it and to what extent he wants moral changes. What I listed is fine but I don't think I could make an enjoyable character that doesn't have firm grounding in the struggles of real life. Again, that's just me and has no bearing on this RP.


There's nothing wrong with it, it's just that we've already got a huge number of those who are so dark and mysterious and edgy. Which more often than not don't come off that great because it's mostly like reading a Linkin park song. Something looses it's effectiveness when its done very often.

Which is ironic because I like "edgy" themes precisely because they are largely absent in mainstream media, which is I am on NS and not reading a book by a professional author. The Avengers, and movies like it, gross billions of dollars and affect culture at every level. Every movie, TV show, etc. has what this RP is seemingly shooting for which, to be honest, makes me wonder why I would want preform in it and not read or participate in something far more professional.

I don't like edginess for the point of it but using "Edgy" as a pejorative like you do is often used as an excuse to hammer in a specific type of narrative, which is fine when you are creating your on work, but I find difficult to enjoy when working on something collaborative. Characters with happy backstories pushed to "make decisions" that require no sacrifice on their and without any serious issue or intellectual argument are not things I find interesting, and are generally so divorced from realty I find it difficult to take them seriously (which is why I try to explore on less popular mediums like NS).

That's why, despite fantastical elements perhaps in the setting or means to make it more fun, I prefer characters to face struggles actual people face rather than archetypes we wish existed in the real world, because 99% of the choices "heroes" make are obvious and not in any way applicable to moral crises the average person faces.

Again, I am not speaking on the quality of the RP, just expressing why my character(s) may be too "dark" for it.
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Postby Icthyia » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:00 am

Boergandina wrote:With the Übermensch, I intend to subvert this trend of antiheroes- a hero that is literally a Nazi, but strives to right wrongs, fight injustice, and revert the world's opinion of the German people.

The Übermensch is brash and inconsiderate of collateral damage.


He checks all the boxes of "anithero" since your big deal with him Nietzsche's "superhuman" ethos, and is the literal founder of nihilism, the edgiest of philosophies.
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Postby Boergandina » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:04 am

Icthyia wrote:
Boergandina wrote:With the Übermensch, I intend to subvert this trend of antiheroes- a hero that is literally a Nazi, but strives to right wrongs, fight injustice, and revert the world's opinion of the German people.

The Übermensch is brash and inconsiderate of collateral damage.


He checks all the boxes of "anithero" since your big deal with him Nietzsche's "superhuman" ethos, and is the literal founder of nihilism, the edgiest of philosophies.

It really is the edgiest of philosophies.
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Postby Charmera » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:08 am

Icthyia wrote:
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There's nothing wrong with it, it's just that we've already got a huge number of those who are so dark and mysterious and edgy. Which more often than not don't come off that great because it's mostly like reading a Linkin park song. Something looses it's effectiveness when its done very often.

Which is ironic because I like "edgy" themes precisely because they are largely absent in mainstream media, which is I am on NS and not reading a book by a professional author. The Avengers, and movies like it, gross billions of dollars and affect culture at every level. Every movie, TV show, etc. has what this RP is seemingly shooting for which, to be honest, makes me wonder why I would want preform in it and not read or participate in something far more professional.

I don't like edginess for the point of it but using "Edgy" as a pejorative like you do is often used as an excuse to hammer in a specific type of narrative, which is fine when you are creating your on work, but I find difficult to enjoy when working on something collaborative. Characters with happy backstories pushed to "make decisions" that require no sacrifice on their and without any serious issue or intellectual argument are not things I find interesting, and are generally so divorced from realty I find it difficult to take them seriously (which is why I try to explore on less popular mediums like NS).

That's why, despite fantastical elements perhaps in the setting or means to make it more fun, I prefer characters to face struggles actual people face rather than archetypes we wish existed in the real world, because 99% of the choices "heroes" make are obvious and not in any way applicable to moral crises the average person faces.

Again, I am not speaking on the quality of the RP, just expressing why my character(s) may be too "dark" for it.

Um. Edgy themes are actually pretty present in pop culture. That's why Avengers, Overwatch and many bright and colorful things are actually becoming popular now. Because we did a heck of a lot of edgy in the 90's and early 2000s and we still do.

And there are plenty of relatable choices made by heroes actually. A lot of the things spider man is faced with is made to be somewhat relatable. Iron man's guilt at proliferating arms is very relatable, and he has to make choices for the furtherment of mankind. Captain American often has to choose between his loyalty to his country and his morals.

I'm not slagging you off, I'm mostly countering points to make the point that it's not like we don't want edginess. Heck, I have a edgy half demon and a sister whom was the victim of a lack of favoritism. I have a girl who will one day have to deal with the fact that she was never human and that all she believed about herself was a lie. So we're not really trying to hammer out a specific story or hogtie anyone really. Quite the opposite actually. We just want things to be more diverse and interesting. We wouldn't want there to be too many heroes any more than too many villains (Though the former is easier to remedy than the latter IOM).

Though we do end up being a little restrictive (In fact, I feel like the ban should be lifted now anyway) I feel it's more in the spirit of diversity than to try and force a narrative upon people. We just don't want a million agnst machines running around, and we already have quite a few at the moment. So it would be best to wait for star to say something. If he does say no, I'll attempt to convince him otherwise for you, cause I do think your app is rather alright.
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Postby Icthyia » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:24 am

Charmera wrote:Um. Edgy themes are actually pretty present in pop culture. That's why Avengers, Overwatch and many bright and colorful things are actually becoming popular now. Because we did a heck of a lot of edgy in the 90's and early 2000s and we still do.


No it does not. Let's go through the higest grossing films:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/cha ... 016&p=.htm

Not a single one of those is "Edgy". We have had movies with far more real themes but the edgy pejorative began as a solely internet phenomena so people could feel better than misguided teenagers as ell as put down people with interests different from them.
Charmera wrote:And there are plenty of relatable choices made by heroes actually. A lot of the things spider man is faced with is made to be somewhat relatable.

I ill give you Spider-man is more relatable than most heroes; this nevertheless ignores that it is always an objective good vs. an objective bad with a hero that, despite facing some issues, will always in the end have everything work out for them.

That is the problem with superhero movies; that all have the exact same ending. The new spider-man at least ended on a darker note and I did enjoy that quite a bit.

Charmera wrote: Iron man's guilt at proliferating arms is very relatable, and he has to make choices for the furtherment of mankind.

No it's not, because most people don't face problems like that. He has billions of dollars and is a genius; of course he houldn't proliferate arms, that's not even question. The fact he can then strap up in a suit at no real cost to him or his loved ones is not relatable to the thousands of people ho fight actual gun proliferation and violence int he middle east.

If this were a real problem they wanted to explore rather than an ecuse to get him in the suit, they would actual show video footage of the consequences of his actions that miic realty.
Charmera wrote: Captain American often has to choose between his loyalty to his country and his morals.

And in most of these instance it's an absolutely easy to make either/or position. In Winter soldiers morals ere obviously superior. Otherwise they create an excuse, where the government intellectually is absolutely right, for him to have a "moral problem" they can throw up and complicate most of the viewers aren't watching for that. He also has very strange concerns about what is a moral problem considering there a million and one things the government in Avengers does that is troubling but he doesn't seem to care until it personally affects him,so he's clearly not that moral a man, which is fine, if the producers were honest about it.
Charmera wrote:I'm not slagging you off, I'm mostly countering points to make the point that it's not like we don't want edginess.

That's fine and all but it doesn't seem that way hen the first response, while civil, as to use pejorative terms that in basically every context are an insult.Comparing my character to a Linkin Park song, while calling them "edgy" (a universal insult in every social circle), "so mysterious" and other such terms came across as direct criticisms of my app and my writing style that made me want to explain why I rote what I did.
Heck, I have a edgy half demon and a sister whom was the victim of a lack of favoritism. I have a girl who will one day have to deal with the fact that she was never human and that all she believed about herself was a lie. So we're not really trying to hammer out a specific story or hogtie anyone really. Quite the opposite actually. We just want things to be more diverse and interesting. We wouldn't want there to be too many heroes any more than too many villains (Though the former is easier to remedy than the latter IOM).[/quote]
This was not what was implied in the response to my app.
Charmera wrote:Though we do end up being a little restrictive (In fact, I feel like the ban should be lifted now anyway) I feel it's more in the spirit of diversity than to try and force a narrative upon people. We just don't want a million agnst machines running around, and we already have quite a few at the moment. So it would be best to wait for star to say something. If he does say no, I'll attempt to convince him otherwise for you, cause I do think your app is rather alright.

That's fine and thank you for doing so, as I said none of what I said was a knock on the RP and I would be more than happy to participate in it. I just think insults like "angst machine" are excuses used to delve into far more hard to write character development, of which stereotypical heroes often develop so little.
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Postby Zarkenis Ultima » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:30 am

Icthyia wrote:That's fine and all but it doesn't seem that way hen the first response, while civil, as to use pejorative terms that in basically every context are an insult.Comparing my character to a Linkin Park song, while calling them "edgy" (a universal insult in every social circle), "so mysterious" and other such terms came across as direct criticisms of my app and my writing style that made me want to explain why I rote what I did.


I'll merely note that, while he is a friend of ours and his opinions generally line up with ours, Atria is not one of Star's appointed Co-OPs and wasn't speaking for the roleplay.

I'll be sure to tell Star to pass veredict on your app tomorrow.
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Postby Charmera » Fri Jun 17, 2016 7:44 am

Icthyia wrote:
No it does not. Let's go through the higest grossing films:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/cha ... 016&p=.htm

Not a single one of those is "Edgy". We have had movies with far more real themes but the edgy pejorative began as a solely internet phenomena so people could feel better than misguided teenagers as ell as put down people with interests different from them.

Captain America Civil War; The superheros begin to fight amongst themselves over issues of government control.
Zootopia: A story about racism and the struggle of overcoming prejudice, which despite the happy little ending is still very much alive in Zootopia.
Batman V Superman: Batman is one of the edgyiest superheros alive.
Deadpool: A regenerating superhero who gibs people with Katana's for a living and is a smartass. Is tortured with oxygen deprivation in the movie.
Xmen-Apocalypse: Though i have not seen the movie, I do know that Sur has a warped darwinistic ideology when it comes to people.

That's five of the top five. One being a freaking disney movie. And those are just the ones I know for a fact are somewhat edgy.
So yeah.

Charmera wrote:And there are plenty of relatable choices made by heroes actually. A lot of the things spider man is faced with is made to be somewhat relatable.

I ill give you Spider-man is more relatable than most heroes; this nevertheless ignores that it is always an objective good vs. an objective bad with a hero that, despite facing some issues, will always in the end have everything work out for them.

That is the problem with superhero movies; that all have the exact same ending. The new spider-man at least ended on a darker note and I did enjoy that quite a bit.

Exact same ending how? Cause Guaridans of the Galaxy, Avengers Age of Ultron and Avengers 1 ended on a Triumphant yet cliffhangery note, Deadpool got the basic happy ending, Xmen: Days of Future Past ended with the beginning of a new thing for Xmen.
And how is Civil War an objective Good vs Evil? How is Age of Ultron where the good guys litterally built and armed the baddy? Deadpool where there is a man in a red costume going around killing people for turning him into a freak? Sure we root for certain people over others but you do have to wonder about the heroes methods, especially with Tony Stark who is fanning the flame he is trying to get out.

Charmera wrote: Iron man's guilt at proliferating arms is very relatable, and he has to make choices for the furtherment of mankind.

No it's not, because most people don't face problems like that. He has billions of dollars and is a genius; of course he houldn't proliferate arms, that's not even question. The fact he can then strap up in a suit at no real cost to him or his loved ones is not relatable to the thousands of people ho fight actual gun proliferation and violence int he middle east.

Yet we understand his struggle and are able to empathize with him. Almost as if we don't need a charecter to be the exact same as us socio-economically to relate with them.

See above for the irony of why tony is making weapons to stop the proliferation of arms. (The Iron man Suits are weapons. And they have been leaked) Also, ultron is a good example of how his well meaningness can also backfire spectacularly.

I can kinda see your point with the middle east thing, but the bit about no real cost to him or his loved ones? First off his suit nearly killed him and his Iron Man suit has fed his unhealthy ego and his self destructive nature. I'm fairly sure Obadiah Stane killed his dad too.
If this were a real problem they wanted to explore rather than an ecuse to get him in the suit, they would actual show video footage of the consequences of his actions that miic realty.

He got hit by his own bomb and then trapped in a cave and told to make more by terrorists. What more do you want?

Charmera wrote: Captain American often has to choose between his loyalty to his country and his morals.

And in most of these instance it's an absolutely easy to make either/or position. In Winter soldiers morals ere obviously superior. Otherwise they create an excuse, where the government intellectually is absolutely right, for him to have a "moral problem" they can throw up and complicate most of the viewers aren't watching for that. He also has very strange concerns about what is a moral problem considering there a million and one things the government in Avengers does that is troubling but he doesn'tseem to care until it personally affects him,so he's clearly not that moral a man, which is fine, if the producers were honest about it.

Honestly I haven't seen Winter Solider, so I can't argue any points here.

Charmera wrote:I'm not slagging you off, I'm mostly countering points to make the point that it's not like we don't want edginess.

That's fine and all but it doesn't seem that way hen the first response, while civil, as to use pejorative terms that in basically every context are an insult.Comparing my character to a Linkin Park song, while calling them "edgy" (a universal insult in every social circle), "so mysterious" and other such terms came across as direct criticisms of my app and my writing style that made me want to explain why I rote what I did.

Critizism =/= insult.
We can go overboard with that a tad, but please for your own sanity don't take anything said here personally. A lot of us take things with a degree of comedic lightness, though we can also be serious when we want.

Heck, I have a edgy half demon and a sister whom was the victim of a lack of favoritism. I have a girl who will one day have to deal with the fact that she was never human and that all she believed about herself was a lie. So we're not really trying to hammer out a specific story or hogtie anyone really. Quite the opposite actually. We just want things to be more diverse and interesting. We wouldn't want there to be too many heroes any more than too many villains (Though the former is easier to remedy than the latter IOM).

This was not what was implied in the response to my app.

Well, I have no idea what Zark meant to imply since I am not Zark.
But it seems to me that all he was saying was "I should check with star before getting back to this"
Zark also has nothing against edgy or dark charecters from what I've seen.

Charmera wrote:Though we do end up being a little restrictive (In fact, I feel like the ban should be lifted now anyway) I feel it's more in the spirit of diversity than to try and force a narrative upon people. We just don't want a million agnst machines running around, and we already have quite a few at the moment. So it would be best to wait for star to say something. If he does say no, I'll attempt to convince him otherwise for you, cause I do think your app is rather alright.

That's fine and thank you for doing so, as I said none of what I said was a knock on the RP and I would be more than happy to participate in it. I just think insults like "angst machine" are excuses used to delve into far more hard to write character development, of which stereotypical heroes often develop so little.

Just so you know, nothing above is against you either. Though a few things you said I had to counter mostly because I disagreed with them.

Again. They're not insults. More like Atria being cheeky. Try not to take it so seriously... or do take it seriously if you want. As long as it doesn't get out of hand I don't mind.

Also they're not excuses. I know for a fact Atria has a few Edgy characters, so he has tried edgy. I'm fairly sure Star's comment bemoaning the anti hero was mostly an opinion rather than an order, That's why we're waiting for his word. We don't want to accept you without his word or blindly deny you on what he said and get into a whole 'who will rid my of this turbulent priest" scenario
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Postby The Starlight » Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:23 am

I've been watching this carefully, here, this whole debate about edginess. I'll give a full response made here, but I think that both sides have fully expressed their view, so it's time for this to stop consuming the thread.

Thanks, fellas, and I'll get to the apps to within an hour or two. Knew I should've put a hashtag in the app to make it easier to find.
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Zarkenis Ultima wrote:I'm not gonna accept or deny anything yet, just doing my rounds, but so far the apps I've seen here look fine, with a few exceptions. Icthyia, your character seems a tad dark for the OP's wishes. Shadowwell, you already know about the moratorium on villains, so I'll just say that I'll defer to the OP in this case. Boergandina, I like the application but the personality section confuses me a little, does Johannes have multiple personalities, or is the difference between his normal and superhero personas an act, and if so, which is the real one? Sivio, might want to hold off on that faction app 'til the team is established. Just some advice. There's nothing wrong with it, though.


I know, but that's fine, as he might be able to get in via a technicality, when i finish hime. Strangely enough, i am putting so much work into a character that may not get accepted, kind of like with the original Steve.
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Name: Alessandro Marino

Superhero Name: The Blue Crusader

Age: 29

Gender: Male

Race/Species: Human

Appearance:
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Personality: Likable, charismatic and loud, Alessandro considers himself to be the embodiment of the classic storybook Knight, if he didn't suffer from a seemingly compulsive need to flirt and seduce any woman he considers attractive. In his time he was known as a serial womaniser, and it got to such an extent that he was originally banned for, the city of Milan for being found sleeping with a particularly high ranking city noble.

Because of where he comes from he is a rather devout Catholic, although he was known to be one of the most frequent visitors to the confessional for his activities. Beyond his sin of lust, he was well known for getting into serious fist fights with gangs of toughs who either sought to avenge their female relatives or beat him for his rather arrogant attitude. He often gave as good as he got, but it was not unusual to see him with a black eye or broken bones.

His position does endow him with a certain degree of arrogance, but there is one area of his life that he treats with utmost respect, which was his military training and history. He loved nothing more than to listen to the tales of old warriors, especially the tales of his Crusader great and great great grandfather, who it was said there families arms and armour had been blessed by an Angel, and that if he was ever in need and was worthy, it would protect him much the same it supposedly protected his relatives.

Biography:
Alessandro Marino was born on the 10th of June 1386 in the city of Lucca to a small if respected Italian noble family. As a young boy his troublesome ways were known even then. One of his most infamous moments when at the age of 12 he had tricked a Cardinal to trip and fall into a rather large pile of manure. He got an absolute flogging, but he always considered it one of his greatest accomplishments.

Although he began formal noble education at the age of six, he never seriously considered his studies until shortly after Cardinal incident when his family, at their wits end, sent him off to live with his Uncle in the countryside of Milan. Whereas his family had been fairly off handed with him (although he always was close to mother), his uncle was much more fire and brimstone. Known for being louder than life but stern as an Ox, he taught the young Alessandro the real arts of being a noble and how to fight. His skill with a blade came naturally, and it wasn't long before he became renowned by the name of the 'Young Crusader'. He was noted for having beaten several other skilled swordsman by his twentieth year from as far afield as Iberia and Nothern France.

As a result, it wasn't long until he was recalled to the city of by his mother so as to engage in a melee with a legendary fighter from a Germanic kingdom. Before he arrived however the Black Death had taken a stranglehold. By the time he got there his family had been wiped out and the whole of Italy was in chaos. When he arrived his family home had been looted. After burying his mother and father, he took what he could, put on the armour of his great grandfather and left the city.

Alessandro spent nearly a decade running from the tragedy of his family and cities collapse. He spent most of the time fighting as an mercenary. He fought in wars big and small, from Brittany to North Africa. It was here that his tale grew, and his title changed from the Young Crusader to the Blue Crusader for the colour of his tabard. It was said in the heat of battle his tabard and armour would faintly glow. Alessandro would just attribute this to his good looks.

By the age of 29 he finally returned to see his uncle. His uncle was much the same as he always been, albeit older. Alessandro hadn't changed much in his time either, having not just fought but also slept, drank and tricked his way across these battlefields. But he hadn't seen his parents graves since he left. His uncle warned him of stories of plague doctors all across Italy who had been robbing the sick of both money and mind.

His arrival at his parents grave was quiet, except for the stench. His time overseas had caused him to form his fair share of enemies. He was approached an attacked by a group of hired goons. Drawing his sword he attempted to defend himself. However, in his final moment he was thrust into the air and with a large boom and a flash of bright light he was gone.

He woke up, rather confused, tired and drowsy. He didn't initially know it, but he had been thrown forward to the present age. Rather than let it get to him, he decided to march boldly into this new world and see if his skills as a medieval Crusader be put to good use. He was on the outskirts of Pandora City


Powers/Abilities:
[*]Blue Crusader Armour: Except otherwise noted, all of the Blue Crusaders abilities come from his armour.
[*]Peak Physical Condition: (Non-armour) His lifelong training and several years of experience in fighting across battlefields has resulted in Alessandro being in peak human condition outside of his armour.
[*]Expert Hand-to-Hand and Melee Weapon Skills: (Non-armour) Again, his trainings do veteran combat experience has resulted in Alessandro being fairly skilled across a multitude of medieval weapons that were common, from the humble spear to a mace, as well as his mastery of the sword.
[*]Supernatural Strength: The Blue Crusaders armour endows Alessandro with great strength. He is more than able to lift weights in excess of 30 tonnes and throw them with reasonable accuracy.
[*]Supernatural Speed: The Blue Crusader armour allows Alessandro to run upto 65m/hr for a period of as long as a minute. He can run as fast as an Olympic sprinter for an unlimited period of time. Also allows him to wield his sword faster than is humanely possible.
[*]Supernatural Durability: His armour is designed to protect Alessandro at all costs. Utterly immune to bullets, it's said that if he was to be hit by a speeding road train it would be stopped in its tracks and the armour wouldn't scratch. Would be sent flying though.
[*]Crusader Sword: His sword is rumoured to be unbreakable, and can cut through most things with ease when combined with his strength and speed.
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Weaknesses
  • Utterly Clueless: Has no idea about the modern eras rules, expectations, norms or technology. Utterly confused, if intrigued, by his new surroundings
  • Nigh irreparable armour: With black smithing all but dead in the modern era, and the master level blacksmith required to repair the armour of the Blue Crusader being extinct, means damage done to his armour is essentially permanent. When the armour finally cracks too far, the armour is useless
  • Time sickness: Because of his dramatic relocation, Alessandro regularly feels a crippling illness in which he maybe invalidated for as long as a week. Usually in the form of extreme headaches and stomach cramps. Can occur at any time.


Equipment: Blue Crusader Armour, Crusader Sword.

Likes: Dueling, showing off, woman, alcohol.
Dislikes: Modern society rules, norms and expectations, prosititution being illegal, most modern food.

RP Sample: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=203966&hilit=Sondria
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Postby Sivio » Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:35 am

Onekawa-Nukanor wrote:-snip-


I like him. If he is accepted, maybe he can be the Thor of the Renegades.
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Postby The Starlight » Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:26 am

United Seasonal Osnilian Districts wrote:Faction Application

Faction Name: United Seasonal Districts

Modern in what way? Nukes, guns? Please be more specific. Also, gonna need an explanation for the weather phenomenon. Also, as for the Element 209, what are its limits in transmutation?

Shadowwell wrote:EDIT: Star, would i be ab;e to possibly get away with a supervillainish character? I made an app for Xylon Pharmeueticals but didnt finish it, and you need an app for the factions leader, so If i finish the xylon app could i make a supervillainish character as the head? (he wouldnt be truly evil, simply bored with humanity failing to be peaceful after so long.

I'll let you get away with that, yes.

Xavarius wrote:Character Application


Name: Jonathan Caine

Superhero Name: Tempest

Accepted.

Sivio wrote:My idea is to create a team called The Renegades. It would consist of at least seven heroes. Mostly, they would have left already existing factions/teams, but anyone can join.

Sure, that's fine.

Shadowwell wrote:Character Application
[PLEASE DELETE ALL PARENTHESES BEFORE SUBMITTING APPLICATIONS. INCLUDING THIS ONE]


Name: Harold Cage AKA Curtis Stone AKA sir Rodger Todd

EDIT: CO-OPs and OP, what was the plan for the rift? I was going to have Brain try something, He probably wont exactly succeed, but i still want to know.

Is this the faction leader? Because if it is not, he is not accepted, I'm afraid. The reason being that there's no clear origin of his powers, and his weaknesses aren't quite defined and enough to stop him from being quite powerful.

As for the rift, I haven't fully decided how it'll end yet, perhaps something with my char Elena, but Brain is certainly free to try. However, the portals closing will only stop more Inquisitors from arriving, it won't make them all drop dead.

Boergandina wrote:
Boergandina wrote:Character Application


Name: Johannes Stahl

Superhero Name: The Übermensch

Not quite convinced that Soviets would have that sort of ability to create superhumans, but I'll let it go, it is a superhero RP. Accepted.

Fascist Republic Of Bermuda wrote:Finally finished this.
Faction Application


Faction Name: Supernatural, Extraterrestrial, and Extraordinary Containment Agency (S.E.E.C.A., more commonly referred to as SEEKER)

Location: Worldwide, but focused in Europe, the Americas, SE Asia, and the Middle East. Primary base (Base Alpha) is at Groom Lake, Nevada, United States of America. Major secondary installations are in Oak Ridge, Tennessee, United States of America, Klaipėda, Klaipėda County, Lithuania, Farnborough, England, United Kingdom, Triulla Atoll, Solomon Islands, The Alps, Bavaria, Federal Republic of Germany, and Hashima, Nagasaki Prefecture, Japan.

Level of Technology: Surpassing the rest of humanity slightly, but well below Xantheian tech.

By far the most advanced technology in SEEKER are bits of tech left over by the Xantheians, but despite extensive research use of the alien technology remains out of SEEKER's grasp for now. The runner-up is obviously the Crusader Powered Exoskeleton, but that technology remains in its infancy. Often overlooked but perhaps the most vital in SEEKER's success is the miniaturization of computers. This allows for everything from tablets as powerful as the latest desktop PC and the development of Shock Troopers' gas masks, which allows soldiers to receive real-time intelligence, communicate quickly and easily, and record everything in a mask-mounted camera, all the while protecting against chemical weapons and hardly hampering sight.

Faction Biography/Lore: SEEKER's immediate predecessors were the American Bureau of Extraordinary Affairs (BEA) and the NATO Extraterrestrial Command (EXTERCOM). The former was founded first, as the number of supervillains rose and law enforcement found themselves overwhelmed. The Bureau was moderately successful(ish), helping control mass panic in the form of press releases and finally shedding some light on the world of metahumans. It was disbanded as a result of the Invasion. EXTERCOM was an emergency measure for NATO in the face of the Xantheian invasion. Despite the best equipment and personnel NATO could offer, EXTERCOM was ultimately crushed like so much of the world's resistance. And then the Justice Queens rose and freed humanity.

With order restored in much of the world, the nations of NATO came together to discuss recent events. Superpowered individuals, aliens, all were becoming distressingly common. A top-secret meeting of major NATO defense officials in Brussels came to the conclusion that humanity had to fight back against the tide sweeping them away. An off-the-books, heavily classified agency designed to combat extraordinary threats was required. The result was the formation of SEECA, or the Supernatural, Extraterrestrial, and Extraordinary Containment Agency. Later abbreviated simply to SEEKER, the new agency made its home in Area 51, a legendary American military installation. NATO members covertly fund the organization, who has a ridiculous degree of autonomy despite technically reporting to NATO.

Population Size: 20,000 employees worldwide.

Army size: 2,500 field agents of various specializations. About 1,500 are Shock Troopers. Roughly 100 are Crusaders.

Additional information: Shock Troopers are the militant branch of SEEKER, specializing in taking down opponents with force.
Crusaders are the elite of the elite. Clad in prototype suits of powered armor, they are trained and equipped to take on almost anything.

And two SEEKER guys:
Character Application


Name: Brigadier General Johnathan Moore

Superhero Name: N/A

Age: 50

Gender: Male

Race/Species: Human

Appearance: Visual Aid.

Personality: Pragmatic, but fair. Stern but not without a sense of humor. He is not afraid to sacrifice men, but he never wastes them.

Biography: Johnathan Moore was born to a USMC Colonel stationed in West Germany during the height of the Cold War. As a child, Moore was often brought to HQ by his father, where he first expressed an interest in the military. This pleased old Colonel Moore, who wanted his son to be a Marine through and through, like most of his family. At the age of 18, John was shipped back to the States to attend the United States Naval Academy.

Four years later, Johnathan Moore was granted a commission as a Second Lieutenant in the United States Marine Corps. Thus began Moore's service career. He fought in Panama, Iraq, Somalia, Bosnia, and Afghanistan. Along the way, he even found enough time to grab a wife and father two kids. After the opening of the Xantheian Box, Moore and his unit would be deployed to take down supervillains. Those would be quickly halted by the arrival of the Xantheians. A few intense but futile battles followed, and Moore and his unit were captured and placed in a POW camp.

The liberation was swift. But not swift enough. Moore had to witness most of his unit being brutally and slowly tortured. Only 23 soldiers remained when the Justice Queens liberated the camp.

After returning home, Moore planned to retire when a high-ranking US DoD official approached Moore with the offer of a lifetime: command of a government agency. The official would not specify further until Moore accepted. Shortly afterward, he found himself inducted as Commander of SEEKER and briefed on everything NATO had gathered about "extra-ordinary" people and events. That was several months ago.
Powers/Abilities:
  • Commander: Chief of SEEKER. Not a superpower per se, but still useful.
  • Linguist: Fluent in English and German. Proficient in Spanish, Arabic, Korean, and Russian.
  • Military Training: He's military. They trained him. Again, not a superpower, but useful.


Weaknesses
  • Only Human: He is a regular human being. He has no superpowers.
  • Age: He's a middle-aged man, he is not in the best shape.


Equipment:
  • Colt M1911A1
  • USMC KA-BAR
  • Earpiece

Likes: The USMC, History, Gardening, Everything going as planned, His family
Dislikes: Wastefulness, Bureaucracy, Xantheians, Metahumans
Theme Song: Here.


Additional information:

RP Sample: Boom.

Character Application


Name: Captain Robert Kenner

Superhero Name: N/A

Age: 34

Gender: Male

Race/Species: Human

Appearance: Visual Aid.

Personality: Stubborn and hard, but he would never order someone under his command to do something he wouldn't be willing to do himself. He will get his objectives completed one way or the other.

Biography: Robert Kenner was born in Saint Louis, Missouri, to a middle-class family with no real legacy. After an entirely unremarkable childhood, Kenner joined the US Army after graduating college. Not long afterward, he was recruited into the Green Berets, where he would spend the rest of his service days in the US Armed Forces. Like most US military units, he would be deployed against the rising tide of supervillains. After being WIA during a mission to halt one such supervillain, Kenner slipped into a coma. He was granted the Medal of Honor for his actions, but it was considered to be almost posthumous.

However, after the Xantheians were pushed back, Kenner woke up. After being nursed back to health, he left the Green Berets with an honorable discharge. One month later, he was scooped up by SEEKER's newly formed Shock Trooper Corps as an officer, where he remains to this day.

Powers/Abilities:
  • Commando Training: Trained by the best to be the best. Peak human condition and all that.
  • Weapons Expert: He can operate most weapons fairly easily.


Weaknesses
  • Only Human: He is a regular human being. No superpowers.
  • Wars May Be Fought With Weapons: Take away his equipment, and he is left with his decidedly average hand-to-hand skills.


Equipment:
  • Heckler and Koch G3A3
  • Beretta M9
  • Combat knife
  • SEEKER uniform
  • Guns, explosives, communications equipment, uniforms, etc. as mission parameters require.

Likes: Easy missions, Swimming, Cold beers, Skydiving
Dislikes: Snakes, Aliens, Snake Aliens, Mondays
Theme Song: Here.


Additional information:

RP Sample: See above.

Accepted.

Onekawa-Nukanor wrote:Name: Alessandro Marino

Superhero Name: The Blue Crusader


Accepted.

Icthyia wrote:Character Application


Name:John Rios

Superhero Name: Purge

[/quote]
Alrighty...
To first clarify my view on supervillains/antiheroes and edginess, I've got nothing against supervillains especially. Everything needs a good villain, but what I didn't want happening, and yet saw happening here was a proliferation of supervillains which was simply too much. That was why the ban was put in place. As for antiheroes, I believe they're good in small numbers, but when everyone has a depressing childhood, was involved in some terrible accident is all rage at the world for what was done to them, it also gets tired. This RP should not turn out to be BvS, with the sky dark all the time with now rays of sunshine.However, the same goes for if they were too many sunshine heroes, I'd probably consider banning them too. Everything in excess eventually becomes bad.

Also, to clarify as well, I'm not saying everything has to be sunshine, with no rain. There needs to be good times and bad times, just enough of the good times so that this RP doesn't become a "woe-is-me" fest.

As for your char, Ichtyia, it goes against what I would prefer, and the ban, but I am feeling benevolent and the app looks pretty good. Accepted, though there wasn't really a need for the whole debate.

As for you all, don't think you can get away with creating edgy fellas and get away with it while this ban is place--and yes, I anticipate that it will be lifted soonish. This ban is being regulated on a case-by-case basis. And if you're going to die if you don't make a villain/anti-hero, it better be the best damn app I have ever seen.
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Postby Shadowwell » Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:29 am

yes, that is the faction head, and i am still editing the bio and some other parts in Word, before i add them. (this is so that even if my nephew deletes hours of my work again i have back up.)
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Postby Boergandina » Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:38 am

The Starlight wrote:
Boergandina wrote:

Not quite convinced that Soviets would have that sort of ability to create superhumans, but I'll let it go, it is a superhero RP. Accepted.

Nazi, not Soviet! Thank you, however!
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Postby Gratis Suid-Alfashir Republiek » Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:39 am

Boergandina wrote:
The Starlight wrote:Not quite convinced that Soviets would have that sort of ability to create superhumans, but I'll let it go, it is a superhero RP. Accepted.

Nazi, not Soviet! Thank you, however!

Wondering here, but shoudl Not!Nazi hero ad Valiant have had a fights before?
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Postby Boergandina » Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:43 am

Gratis Suid-Alfashir Republiek wrote:
Boergandina wrote:Nazi, not Soviet! Thank you, however!

Wondering here, but shoudl Not!Nazi hero ad Valiant have had a fights before?

It's doubtful. They may have had conflicts in the 90s when the Übermensch was just then coming into his own as a hero, but previous to that from 1933 to 1945 he was but a child, and from 1945 to 1970 he was effectively isolated at the Mengele Villa in Argentina. From the 70s to 1991, he wasn't directly doing any fighting, but was funding various Anti-Communist forces throughout the world like the Mujaheddin and the Chinese Nationalists.
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Postby Gratis Suid-Alfashir Republiek » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:09 pm

Boergandina wrote:
Gratis Suid-Alfashir Republiek wrote:Wondering here, but shoudl Not!Nazi hero ad Valiant have had a fights before?

It's doubtful. They may have had conflicts in the 90s when the Übermensch was just then coming into his own as a hero, but previous to that from 1933 to 1945 he was but a child, and from 1945 to 1970 he was effectively isolated at the Mengele Villa in Argentina. From the 70s to 1991, he wasn't directly doing any fighting, but was funding various Anti-Communist forces throughout the world like the Mujaheddin and the Chinese Nationalists.

Valiant was involved in Anti-Communist operations. Perhaps they'd heard or encountered on another
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Postby The Starlight » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:17 pm

Boergandina wrote:
The Starlight wrote:Not quite convinced that Soviets would have that sort of ability to create superhumans, but I'll let it go, it is a superhero RP. Accepted.

Nazi, not Soviet! Thank you, however!

Woops, my mistake.
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Postby Boergandina » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:18 pm

The Starlight wrote:
Boergandina wrote:Nazi, not Soviet! Thank you, however!

Woops, my mistake.

It's all good, it's easy to misread with this tiny font!
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Postby Tomia » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:21 pm

I hope everyone appreciates the work Star does for this RP, and how good he is at his job. Really he deserves a round of applause. So I present, the band of emoji clappers.
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

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Postby Boergandina » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:23 pm

Tomia wrote:I hope everyone appreciates the work Star does for this RP, and how good he is at his job. Really he deserves a round of applause. So I present, the band of emoji clappers.
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

He is very proficient, and is doing his best to keep order and balance.
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Postby Sivio » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:39 pm

Boergandina wrote:
Tomia wrote:I hope everyone appreciates the work Star does for this RP, and how good he is at his job. Really he deserves a round of applause. So I present, the band of emoji clappers.
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

He is very proficient, and is doing his best to keep order and balance.


I appreciate it, Star.
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Postby The Starlight » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:14 pm

Tomia wrote:I hope everyone appreciates the work Star does for this RP, and how good he is at his job. Really he deserves a round of applause. So I present, the band of emoji clappers.
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Uhhh, thanks?
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Postby Spindle » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:25 pm

The Starlight wrote:
Tomia wrote:I hope everyone appreciates the work Star does for this RP, and how good he is at his job. Really he deserves a round of applause. So I present, the band of emoji clappers.
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Uhhh, thanks?


I think you've got this the wrong way around: we're meant to be thanking you here, not the other way around. Otherwise this thread will just devolve into people confusedly thanking each other.
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