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The Ik Ka Ek Akai
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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Mon Jun 06, 2016 5:35 pm

Hey, you!

Yes, you!

Are yous into the wanting of fight, but not having the enough warthings? Come to us selling!

For low price of three winter coat, you am can into getting much good! Yeah? Stops by an Mexico in day to get!

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Postby Segmentia » Mon Jun 06, 2016 5:36 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:So bout that Alliance Venice


Link to your app? Want to look it over before deciding.
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Mon Jun 06, 2016 5:37 pm

Segmentia wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:So bout that Alliance Venice


Link to your app? Want to look it over before deciding.

viewtopic.php?p=28968931#p28968931

There are somethings that I still have to flesh out before it's satisfactory for myself but this is the accepted app.
I'm really tired

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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Mon Jun 06, 2016 5:46 pm

Guys, it's been 5 months. China can be arriving now.

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Postby Segmentia » Mon Jun 06, 2016 5:48 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Segmentia wrote:
Link to your app? Want to look it over before deciding.

viewtopic.php?p=28968931#p28968931

There are somethings that I still have to flesh out before it's satisfactory for myself but this is the accepted app.


I'll have to think on it, but its promising.
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Postby Togeria » Mon Jun 06, 2016 5:53 pm

What's the timescale of the RP?
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DEFCON LEVELS
[1] peace
2 hostilities
3engaged conflicts
4War
Maldaria- Victory
GSW-Victory
Revolution in Sharphats-Stalemates
2nd Russian civil war-indecisive
Parazal Civil War-Support wasn't active militarily
I am deeply sorry for the attacks on your nations capital, and pray for those affected by the attacks both in Paris and throughout France. As a fellow Muslim I apologize deeply and in place of those who use our religion to commit such an heinous crime. I pray for France, for Paris, and for all those affected.

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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Mon Jun 06, 2016 5:54 pm

Togeria wrote:What's the timescale of the RP?


Whatever you feel like!

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Postby Sanabel » Mon Jun 06, 2016 5:55 pm

Togeria wrote:What's the timescale of the RP?

Fluid. Just don't go like a year ahead of everyone, and catch up/ slow down if we know important shit is coming up.
The interregnum is over- I am once again the OP of the Land of the Free RP


I am a Radical Centro-Transhumanist and a National Globalist.
If you don't have a high enough IQ to know what those are, then we can't be friends.

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Postby Togeria » Mon Jun 06, 2016 5:57 pm

The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
Togeria wrote:What's the timescale of the RP?


Whatever you feel like!

Sanabel wrote:
Togeria wrote:What's the timescale of the RP?

Fluid. Just don't go like a year ahead of everyone, and catch up/ slow down if we know important shit is coming up.

Alright, my next post will be Zhu touching on the Mexica, finally.
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DEFCON LEVELS
[1] peace
2 hostilities
3engaged conflicts
4War
Maldaria- Victory
GSW-Victory
Revolution in Sharphats-Stalemates
2nd Russian civil war-indecisive
Parazal Civil War-Support wasn't active militarily
I am deeply sorry for the attacks on your nations capital, and pray for those affected by the attacks both in Paris and throughout France. As a fellow Muslim I apologize deeply and in place of those who use our religion to commit such an heinous crime. I pray for France, for Paris, and for all those affected.

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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:03 pm

I plotted the Chinese course:
Image

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Postby Segmentia » Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:04 pm

So, I'm introducing a sort of 'steam-thrower' when I post ICly. Used something if the sort in a steampunk rp way back.
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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:06 pm

Segmentia wrote:So, I'm introducing a sort of 'steam-thrower' when I post ICly. Used something if the sort in a steampunk rp way back.

Whoa, I'm happy I don't border you.

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Postby Togeria » Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:09 pm

The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:I plotted the Chinese course:
(Image)

We're just touching against Mexica directly :)
I love telegrams please by all means telegram me!


DEFCON LEVELS
[1] peace
2 hostilities
3engaged conflicts
4War
Maldaria- Victory
GSW-Victory
Revolution in Sharphats-Stalemates
2nd Russian civil war-indecisive
Parazal Civil War-Support wasn't active militarily
I am deeply sorry for the attacks on your nations capital, and pray for those affected by the attacks both in Paris and throughout France. As a fellow Muslim I apologize deeply and in place of those who use our religion to commit such an heinous crime. I pray for France, for Paris, and for all those affected.

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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:10 pm

Togeria wrote:
The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:I plotted the Chinese course:
(Image)

We're just touching against Mexica directly :)


Your boats somehow end up in Lake Texcoco without ever seeing land.

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Postby Rygondria » Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:12 pm

Segmentia wrote:
Rygondria wrote:But papa venice, you wouldnt kill your own child would you ?


The current Empress murdered her father and threatened to murder her two older brothers so that she would be Empress.

I think that's a yes.

Even if i told you it was the result of the Great Enrico Dandelos charisma and wealth?

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Postby Togeria » Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:14 pm

The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
Togeria wrote:We're just touching against Mexica directly :)


Your boats somehow end up in Lake Texcoco without ever seeing land.

Zhu would be seen as either a god or a devil.
I love telegrams please by all means telegram me!


DEFCON LEVELS
[1] peace
2 hostilities
3engaged conflicts
4War
Maldaria- Victory
GSW-Victory
Revolution in Sharphats-Stalemates
2nd Russian civil war-indecisive
Parazal Civil War-Support wasn't active militarily
I am deeply sorry for the attacks on your nations capital, and pray for those affected by the attacks both in Paris and throughout France. As a fellow Muslim I apologize deeply and in place of those who use our religion to commit such an heinous crime. I pray for France, for Paris, and for all those affected.

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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:16 pm

Togeria wrote:
The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
Your boats somehow end up in Lake Texcoco without ever seeing land.

Zhu would be seen as either a god or a devil.


"Pale hairy men have arrived in the lake"

"WELCOME TO TIBET, GENTLEMEN!"

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Postby Conchabira » Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:16 pm

The Peoples East Africa wrote:
Conchabira wrote:I'm not calling BS because I know the op accepted you and that you're supposed to be the super power of the RP, but 120 million!? My god I am screwed.

By yourself you're screwed. You just have to get onto forming a coalition. Maybe Milan will join, the Germans, the French, etc.

Yeah I'm definitely forming a coalition and he can expect some Arab rebels. Perhaps the Latin Empire would join too. Here's my app, I edited a little bit. I posted it earlier but idk if it was accepted or not.

CODE: SELECT ALL
GENERAL
Formal Nation Name:la Serenissima del Marocco
Colloquial Nation Name:Marocco(Italian spelling of Morocco)
Territory(Map Preferred):(map will be up eventually) Morocco+Western Sahara+ Coast of Mauritania+ North/Western Algeria+ Dominican Republic+ Angola+ Socotra+ City of Taipei+North Eastern Mexico+ Either Fernando Po or Sao Tome and Principe( which ever one is not taken)
Flag/Symbolism:
http://m.imgur.com/L8YPWSE?r

Demonym:Maroccan
Capital:Feś
GOVERNMENTAL
Government Type:Merchant Republic
Government Ideology:Trade focused
Brief Government Explanation:Marocco is a Merchant Republic built on similar lines such as that of Venice. The Doge is the head of both state and government and after being elected, rules for life. After the death of a Doge the Maggior Consiglio convenes to elect a new Doge. The Maggior Consiglio consists of 2,000 of the most successful merchants from across Marocco. The Minor Consiglio consists of 120 merchants, one from each of the powerful trade families of the country. The Minor Consiglio may veto legislation of the Doge if the Minor Consiglio votes to do so by 3/4 of the Minor Consiglio. The Doge also must have new taxes passed by the Minor Consiglio in order to go into effect.
Head of State:Doge Roberto Gallo
Head of Government:Doge Roberto Gallo
Foreign Policy: Marocco's foreign policy has long been trade based. Marocco has a friendly relationship with Venice and a longstanding regional rivalry with Florence. It has a complicated relationship with the Papal States as though it is a major trade partner, they clash over the issue of religious freedom.It has extensive trade relations with other African nations as well as the various tribes of the Sahara. Recently the issue of Florentine control over Songhai has become the largest foreign policy issue. Some in the Consiglio beleive that it is best to negotiate with Florence while others are demanding military action. As previously stated most of Marocco's foreign policy revolves around its trade relations. Marocco often uses the tactic of Gunboat Diplomacy to force foreign, less developed bations to enter in to one sided trade deals.
Domestic Policy: Marocco's domestic policy emphasizes pro-commerce policies. The government, being largely made up of merchants, often caters to businesses. Marocco has seceral state owned banks which it uses to invest and give loans to various companies as well as foreign countries. Marocco is a fairly liberal nation and has promoted open minded thinking in the government. It has adopted several humanist platforms and received many liberal refugees fleeing persecution prinarily in Northern Europe.
State Religion: Marocco has no state religion. The Edict of Tangier was passed in 1509 and established freedom of religion on the grounds that it did not challenge the authority of the government. Marocco has large Jewish, Christian, Muslim, and a growing Agnostic communities.

SOCIAL
Population:18.2 million
Colonial Population:
Nuovo Napoli:1,300,000(non-native)
Santo Domingo:200,000 (non-native)
Nuovo Calabria: 130,000 (non-native)
Elsewhere: 19,000 (non-native)
Ethnic Groups:Biancas(whites)=40%of population, Berbers=20% of population,Jews=5% of population, Arabs=30% of population, Blacks=5% of population
Primary Culture:Italian
Other Cultures:Arab, Berber, Jewish

ECONOMIC
Economic Description:The economy of Marocco is one of the strongest in the world. It is primarily trade based but also has large industrial, mining, and agricultural sectors. It trade posts set up in various foreign nations. It once dominated the Trans-Saharan trade with West Africa, but it has been increasingly encroached upon by the Florentines. It has large textile and ammunition manufacturing industries due to large supplies of wool, cotton lead and sulfur. It has a growing steel industry which supplements its ship and weapon building sectors as well as construction. In the agricultural sector fishing and cictrus are the primary industries. Due to vast irrigation projects in years past the country, especially the north, is much more arable and easier to farm in than in the past. Crops from the New World have also become more common and cotton production has increased.Mining is a prosperous and growing industry in Marocco. Lead, sulfur, salt, iron, and silver are the most common minerals, often found in deposits in the Atlas mountains. The colonies provide raw materials such as cash crops like tobacco, sugar, and cotton being produced in Nuovo Napoli(Northeast Mexican colony) and Santo Domingo. Mineral goods such as gold, iron, copper, silver, and some diamonds from Nuovo Calabria(Angola) are also produced and then shipped back to Marocco for processing.
Industrialization Level: Marocco, like many other Mediterranean nations is fairly industrialized. It lags behind some of the Italian nations, especially in the heavier industries such as steel and ship manufacturing. Major industries in the country are the textile and ammunition industries. The steel and other various related industries are also growing at a rapid rate in the country. Railroads already crisscross the North and coast of the country.
Economic Ideology: Marocco is a trade driven nation, trading cheap manufactured goods to undeveloped nations in return for raw rescources which it then processes. It attempts to compete with European rivals but recently has been lagging behind. Due to this recent government efforts have aimed at combatting European influence in West Africa as well as becoming more competitive in the market in general.
Main Trading Partners:Venice, West African tribes and nations, China, Japan,Native Americans bordering Nuovo Napoli, Iberia, Navarre, Milan
Colonial Economic Policy(If Applicable):Mercantilist

MILITARY
Military Description(Tactics, training, etc.):The military of Marocco is mostly involved with fighting various Saharan tribes and natives in the colonies. Marocco has not fought another advanced nation in over a hundred years and so its troops have become more used to fighting insurgencies and guerrilla wars. The Berbers make excellent calvary troops that are used as dragoons largely in the Sahara. Most other troops consist of artillery and infantry designed to be fast and lightweight in the desert where most operations take place. Troops are accustomed to fighting in a variety of climates however, from coastal marshes and plains in West Africa to the deserts of the Sahara to the icy Atlas mountains and highlands. Due to often fighting in harsh climates the military tries to avoid large, pitched battles and instead attempts to make it impossible for the enemy army to fight. Recently single shot bolt action rifles have begun to be fazed in to the general military, with the reserve still using front loading rifled muskets.
Army(Include active duty, reserves, etc.): 120,000 active duty in Marocco, 35,000 active duty in colonies, 42,000 reserve in Marocco, 60,000 reserve/militia in colonies
Navy(Include number of marines and ships, etc.): 32 CSS Virginia style ironclads, 64 steam driven armored warships, 68 river boats, 42 steam driven transport ships, 31,000 sailors and marines
Elite Units:
Berber calvary: Elite calvary equipped with the most modern repeating rifles and revolvers as well as large intimidating sabres. They act primarily as dragoons but also excel at close range combat. They are fast and travel light. They will strike and then melt away into the dunes of the Sahara. Many are raised on horses from a young age and some Berbers are still semi-nomadic.
Barbary marines: These are elite marines that are deployed primarily in the colonies. They excel in hand to hand combat.
Atlas mountain scouts: These are largely in the reserve and serve as border troops on the border of Berberistan. They are sharpshooters and hunters used to dealing with Wolves, lions, and bears in the Atlas highlands.
Tanks: These are experimental and currently only a dozen are operational, the government has instead put more focus on airship technology.
Airships: Besides Venice, Marocco has made the most advancements in airship technology. They possess a modest fleet of 16 operating and semi-operating airships with two different classes.

HISTORY
Brief History of Nation:
1470's-1503:Marocco was the result of shrewd politics and greed. European merchants had long resided in the nation but it was during the reconquista that they saw the oppurtunity and siezed it. After the industrial revolution in Italy in the 1470's Morocco was seeking more contact with these nations in order to gain the new precious trade goods. The government of the then Islamic Morocco invited many Christian merchants from around the Mediterranean to settle in the country in order to establish relations with the Christian governments in Italy and other parts of Southern Europe. After several years the merchants began to dislike the Muslim government which did not allow for the creation of banks, the institution of interest, and their continued prohibition on alcohol. Witnessing the Iberians success in the reconquista in the North the merchants, who had grown considerably in size, invited the nations of Castile, Aragon, and Portugal to invade Morocco in 1491 with the promise of funding. The Iberians quickly took up the offer and after defeating Granada they launched an invasion of Morocco. The invasion soon gained the support of the Moroccan merchant class as well as other Mediterranean nations and the Papal State declared it a Crusade and sent troops to aid the Iberians. After 5 years of war Morocco had been conquered and occupied. The merchants were initially pleased but soon began to resent their liberators. They found the Iberians policies non productive and believed the inquisition was a waste of resources. In 1503, with the support of the Venetians the merchants once again overthrew the government, which was essentially a puppet of the newly united Spain, and created their own government built on similar principles of that of Venice.
1504-1538: During this time period Marocco expands rapidly both in territory and in technology and in economic prowess. From 1504 until 1509 there is a minor inquisition within Marocco perpetrated by the ruling Chistians. The remaining royalty as well as most of the remaining imams and other Islamic figures are exiled or sold into slavery. In 1509 in the face of a rebellion by Muslim peasants the Edict of Tangier is passed which establishes religious freedom on the grounds that it does not threaten the authority of the government. Large tracts of arable land are left vacant after the deportation of much of the former landed class. This land is taken into the hands of the Maroccan government and is divied up and rented to new European immigrants. During these years Marocco experienced a flood of European immigration. Many Jews from Iberia as well as others fled to Marocco from the inquisition in Iberia. These desperate immigrants settled largely in the Northern cities and provided cheap labor for the growing industries. Another source of immigration was a sizable amount of middle class Europeans, rich enough to afford the tracts of land left by the former nobles but not rich enough to set up their own factories. It was during these early years that Marocco experienced great economic growth due to its dominance of the Trans-Saharan trade as well as growth in trade elsewhere such as the New World. The first Maroccan colony in the New World was that of Santo Domingo, established by merchants in 1523. Later in 1538 colonies along the coast of modern Mexico, named Nuovo Napoli, are established.
1538-1590: During these years Marocco switched focuses for a period. Falsely believing that the Trans-Saharan trade was secure the government began to divert its interest elsewhere. Large scale irrigation projects took place, allowing for more farmable land being available for the steady stream of European immigrants. The colonies began to expand rapidly during this era in both size and population. Meanwhile industry began to grow even larger in the north of the country. It was during this time that a second source of European immigrants arrived en masse. The Morisco's were the descendants of Muslims who had once populated Granada. Despite large amounts of intermarriage with the Spanish as well as concerting to Christianity they continued to face persecution by the Spanish government.In 1568 this culminated in a bloody revolt which lasted 7 years. After the revolt the whole Morisco community was exiled, primarily to Marocco. Most of these hundreds of thousands of immigrants were directed to colonies in the New World, swelling their populations and borders.
1590-1660: In this era Marocco begins to lose its dominance in the Trans-Saharan trade and becomes endangered of being completely cut out of it. In 1594 Marocco declares war on the Ottoman empire which occupies the neighboring regions in modern day Algeria. Early offenses push the Ottomans back close to the border with Tunis. In 1596 a Ottoman counter offensive takes back large swathes of territory until the Maroccans are able to set up a defensive front in the mountains of Western Algeria. In the next 2 years a long war of attrition develops in the Atlas mountains ending in 1598 with a pyrrhic Maroccan victory. Western Algeria is annexed but the army is decimated and support in the government shaken. New military tactics are developed as a result of the war, aimed at wearing out the enemy army with attrition tactics while attempting to engage in as little of direct combat as possible.Throughout the early 1600's the issue with Songhai becomes more intense and there are several border disputes and skirmishes. This leads to a series of several forts being established in the Sahara in order to preserve some form of Moroccan sovereignty. Over time these forts become more connected and increas in number untill there are almost 3 dozen forts dotting the Sahara each with a garrison of at least 500 soldiers.
1660-1671: During these years Maroccan actions become bokder in the Sahara as Florence begins to experience internal troubles. In 1666 the Marrocans take over the port of Taipei and it becomes a prosperous trade post in East Asia. In the 1668 the current leader, Roberto Gallo, is elected Doge. He descends from the powerful Gallo family and is very ambitious and wants to live up to his grandfather, who was once Doge himself. Roberto is an experienced soldier and statesman and is 33 in 1671. He is an oppurtunist who desires to expand Marocco.
Date of Nation's PoD:1491

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I can change the history if you want me to as there is no Florence. Also could I get the Songhai as my protectorate if that's ok.

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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:17 pm

Conchabira wrote:
The Peoples East Africa wrote:By yourself you're screwed. You just have to get onto forming a coalition. Maybe Milan will join, the Germans, the French, etc.

Yeah I'm definitely forming a coalition and he can expect some Arab rebels. Perhaps the Latin Empire would join too. Here's my app, I edited a little bit. I posted it earlier but idk if it was accepted or not.

CODE: SELECT ALL
GENERAL
Formal Nation Name:la Serenissima del Marocco
Colloquial Nation Name:Marocco(Italian spelling of Morocco)
Territory(Map Preferred):(map will be up eventually) Morocco+Western Sahara+ Coast of Mauritania+ North/Western Algeria+ Dominican Republic+ Angola+ Socotra+ City of Taipei+North Eastern Mexico+ Either Fernando Po or Sao Tome and Principe( which ever one is not taken)
Flag/Symbolism:
http://m.imgur.com/L8YPWSE?r

Demonym:Maroccan
Capital:Feś
GOVERNMENTAL
Government Type:Merchant Republic
Government Ideology:Trade focused
Brief Government Explanation:Marocco is a Merchant Republic built on similar lines such as that of Venice. The Doge is the head of both state and government and after being elected, rules for life. After the death of a Doge the Maggior Consiglio convenes to elect a new Doge. The Maggior Consiglio consists of 2,000 of the most successful merchants from across Marocco. The Minor Consiglio consists of 120 merchants, one from each of the powerful trade families of the country. The Minor Consiglio may veto legislation of the Doge if the Minor Consiglio votes to do so by 3/4 of the Minor Consiglio. The Doge also must have new taxes passed by the Minor Consiglio in order to go into effect.
Head of State:Doge Roberto Gallo
Head of Government:Doge Roberto Gallo
Foreign Policy: Marocco's foreign policy has long been trade based. Marocco has a friendly relationship with Venice and a longstanding regional rivalry with Florence. It has a complicated relationship with the Papal States as though it is a major trade partner, they clash over the issue of religious freedom.It has extensive trade relations with other African nations as well as the various tribes of the Sahara. Recently the issue of Florentine control over Songhai has become the largest foreign policy issue. Some in the Consiglio beleive that it is best to negotiate with Florence while others are demanding military action. As previously stated most of Marocco's foreign policy revolves around its trade relations. Marocco often uses the tactic of Gunboat Diplomacy to force foreign, less developed bations to enter in to one sided trade deals.
Domestic Policy: Marocco's domestic policy emphasizes pro-commerce policies. The government, being largely made up of merchants, often caters to businesses. Marocco has seceral state owned banks which it uses to invest and give loans to various companies as well as foreign countries. Marocco is a fairly liberal nation and has promoted open minded thinking in the government. It has adopted several humanist platforms and received many liberal refugees fleeing persecution prinarily in Northern Europe.
State Religion: Marocco has no state religion. The Edict of Tangier was passed in 1509 and established freedom of religion on the grounds that it did not challenge the authority of the government. Marocco has large Jewish, Christian, Muslim, and a growing Agnostic communities.

SOCIAL
Population:18.2 million
Colonial Population:
Nuovo Napoli:1,300,000(non-native)
Santo Domingo:200,000 (non-native)
Nuovo Calabria: 130,000 (non-native)
Elsewhere: 19,000 (non-native)
Ethnic Groups:Biancas(whites)=40%of population, Berbers=20% of population,Jews=5% of population, Arabs=30% of population, Blacks=5% of population
Primary Culture:Italian
Other Cultures:Arab, Berber, Jewish

ECONOMIC
Economic Description:The economy of Marocco is one of the strongest in the world. It is primarily trade based but also has large industrial, mining, and agricultural sectors. It trade posts set up in various foreign nations. It once dominated the Trans-Saharan trade with West Africa, but it has been increasingly encroached upon by the Florentines. It has large textile and ammunition manufacturing industries due to large supplies of wool, cotton lead and sulfur. It has a growing steel industry which supplements its ship and weapon building sectors as well as construction. In the agricultural sector fishing and cictrus are the primary industries. Due to vast irrigation projects in years past the country, especially the north, is much more arable and easier to farm in than in the past. Crops from the New World have also become more common and cotton production has increased.Mining is a prosperous and growing industry in Marocco. Lead, sulfur, salt, iron, and silver are the most common minerals, often found in deposits in the Atlas mountains. The colonies provide raw materials such as cash crops like tobacco, sugar, and cotton being produced in Nuovo Napoli(Northeast Mexican colony) and Santo Domingo. Mineral goods such as gold, iron, copper, silver, and some diamonds from Nuovo Calabria(Angola) are also produced and then shipped back to Marocco for processing.
Industrialization Level: Marocco, like many other Mediterranean nations is fairly industrialized. It lags behind some of the Italian nations, especially in the heavier industries such as steel and ship manufacturing. Major industries in the country are the textile and ammunition industries. The steel and other various related industries are also growing at a rapid rate in the country. Railroads already crisscross the North and coast of the country.
Economic Ideology: Marocco is a trade driven nation, trading cheap manufactured goods to undeveloped nations in return for raw rescources which it then processes. It attempts to compete with European rivals but recently has been lagging behind. Due to this recent government efforts have aimed at combatting European influence in West Africa as well as becoming more competitive in the market in general.
Main Trading Partners:Venice, West African tribes and nations, China, Japan,Native Americans bordering Nuovo Napoli, Iberia, Navarre, Milan
Colonial Economic Policy(If Applicable):Mercantilist

MILITARY
Military Description(Tactics, training, etc.):The military of Marocco is mostly involved with fighting various Saharan tribes and natives in the colonies. Marocco has not fought another advanced nation in over a hundred years and so its troops have become more used to fighting insurgencies and guerrilla wars. The Berbers make excellent calvary troops that are used as dragoons largely in the Sahara. Most other troops consist of artillery and infantry designed to be fast and lightweight in the desert where most operations take place. Troops are accustomed to fighting in a variety of climates however, from coastal marshes and plains in West Africa to the deserts of the Sahara to the icy Atlas mountains and highlands. Due to often fighting in harsh climates the military tries to avoid large, pitched battles and instead attempts to make it impossible for the enemy army to fight. Recently single shot bolt action rifles have begun to be fazed in to the general military, with the reserve still using front loading rifled muskets.
Army(Include active duty, reserves, etc.): 120,000 active duty in Marocco, 35,000 active duty in colonies, 42,000 reserve in Marocco, 60,000 reserve/militia in colonies
Navy(Include number of marines and ships, etc.): 32 CSS Virginia style ironclads, 64 steam driven armored warships, 68 river boats, 42 steam driven transport ships, 31,000 sailors and marines
Elite Units:
Berber calvary: Elite calvary equipped with the most modern repeating rifles and revolvers as well as large intimidating sabres. They act primarily as dragoons but also excel at close range combat. They are fast and travel light. They will strike and then melt away into the dunes of the Sahara. Many are raised on horses from a young age and some Berbers are still semi-nomadic.
Barbary marines: These are elite marines that are deployed primarily in the colonies. They excel in hand to hand combat.
Atlas mountain scouts: These are largely in the reserve and serve as border troops on the border of Berberistan. They are sharpshooters and hunters used to dealing with Wolves, lions, and bears in the Atlas highlands.
Tanks: These are experimental and currently only a dozen are operational, the government has instead put more focus on airship technology.
Airships: Besides Venice, Marocco has made the most advancements in airship technology. They possess a modest fleet of 16 operating and semi-operating airships with two different classes.

HISTORY
Brief History of Nation:
1470's-1503:Marocco was the result of shrewd politics and greed. European merchants had long resided in the nation but it was during the reconquista that they saw the oppurtunity and siezed it. After the industrial revolution in Italy in the 1470's Morocco was seeking more contact with these nations in order to gain the new precious trade goods. The government of the then Islamic Morocco invited many Christian merchants from around the Mediterranean to settle in the country in order to establish relations with the Christian governments in Italy and other parts of Southern Europe. After several years the merchants began to dislike the Muslim government which did not allow for the creation of banks, the institution of interest, and their continued prohibition on alcohol. Witnessing the Iberians success in the reconquista in the North the merchants, who had grown considerably in size, invited the nations of Castile, Aragon, and Portugal to invade Morocco in 1491 with the promise of funding. The Iberians quickly took up the offer and after defeating Granada they launched an invasion of Morocco. The invasion soon gained the support of the Moroccan merchant class as well as other Mediterranean nations and the Papal State declared it a Crusade and sent troops to aid the Iberians. After 5 years of war Morocco had been conquered and occupied. The merchants were initially pleased but soon began to resent their liberators. They found the Iberians policies non productive and believed the inquisition was a waste of resources. In 1503, with the support of the Venetians the merchants once again overthrew the government, which was essentially a puppet of the newly united Spain, and created their own government built on similar principles of that of Venice.
1504-1538: During this time period Marocco expands rapidly both in territory and in technology and in economic prowess. From 1504 until 1509 there is a minor inquisition within Marocco perpetrated by the ruling Chistians. The remaining royalty as well as most of the remaining imams and other Islamic figures are exiled or sold into slavery. In 1509 in the face of a rebellion by Muslim peasants the Edict of Tangier is passed which establishes religious freedom on the grounds that it does not threaten the authority of the government. Large tracts of arable land are left vacant after the deportation of much of the former landed class. This land is taken into the hands of the Maroccan government and is divied up and rented to new European immigrants. During these years Marocco experienced a flood of European immigration. Many Jews from Iberia as well as others fled to Marocco from the inquisition in Iberia. These desperate immigrants settled largely in the Northern cities and provided cheap labor for the growing industries. Another source of immigration was a sizable amount of middle class Europeans, rich enough to afford the tracts of land left by the former nobles but not rich enough to set up their own factories. It was during these early years that Marocco experienced great economic growth due to its dominance of the Trans-Saharan trade as well as growth in trade elsewhere such as the New World. The first Maroccan colony in the New World was that of Santo Domingo, established by merchants in 1523. Later in 1538 colonies along the coast of modern Mexico, named Nuovo Napoli, are established.
1538-1590: During these years Marocco switched focuses for a period. Falsely believing that the Trans-Saharan trade was secure the government began to divert its interest elsewhere. Large scale irrigation projects took place, allowing for more farmable land being available for the steady stream of European immigrants. The colonies began to expand rapidly during this era in both size and population. Meanwhile industry began to grow even larger in the north of the country. It was during this time that a second source of European immigrants arrived en masse. The Morisco's were the descendants of Muslims who had once populated Granada. Despite large amounts of intermarriage with the Spanish as well as concerting to Christianity they continued to face persecution by the Spanish government.In 1568 this culminated in a bloody revolt which lasted 7 years. After the revolt the whole Morisco community was exiled, primarily to Marocco. Most of these hundreds of thousands of immigrants were directed to colonies in the New World, swelling their populations and borders.
1590-1660: In this era Marocco begins to lose its dominance in the Trans-Saharan trade and becomes endangered of being completely cut out of it. In 1594 Marocco declares war on the Ottoman empire which occupies the neighboring regions in modern day Algeria. Early offenses push the Ottomans back close to the border with Tunis. In 1596 a Ottoman counter offensive takes back large swathes of territory until the Maroccans are able to set up a defensive front in the mountains of Western Algeria. In the next 2 years a long war of attrition develops in the Atlas mountains ending in 1598 with a pyrrhic Maroccan victory. Western Algeria is annexed but the army is decimated and support in the government shaken. New military tactics are developed as a result of the war, aimed at wearing out the enemy army with attrition tactics while attempting to engage in as little of direct combat as possible.Throughout the early 1600's the issue with Songhai becomes more intense and there are several border disputes and skirmishes. This leads to a series of several forts being established in the Sahara in order to preserve some form of Moroccan sovereignty. Over time these forts become more connected and increas in number untill there are almost 3 dozen forts dotting the Sahara each with a garrison of at least 500 soldiers.
1660-1671: During these years Maroccan actions become bokder in the Sahara as Florence begins to experience internal troubles. In 1666 the Marrocans take over the port of Taipei and it becomes a prosperous trade post in East Asia. In the 1668 the current leader, Roberto Gallo, is elected Doge. He descends from the powerful Gallo family and is very ambitious and wants to live up to his grandfather, who was once Doge himself. Roberto is an experienced soldier and statesman and is 33 in 1671. He is an oppurtunist who desires to expand Marocco.
Date of Nation's PoD:1491

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I can change the history if you want me to as there is no Florence. Also could I get the Songhai as my protectorate if that's ok.


"The Most Serene of the Morocco"

Didn't we already have that conversation?

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The Peoples East Africa
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Postby The Peoples East Africa » Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:17 pm

Morocco accepted.

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The Ik Ka Ek Akai
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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:19 pm

The Peoples East Africa wrote:Morocco accepted.


Agreed

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Postby Conchabira » Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:20 pm

The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
Conchabira wrote:Yeah I'm definitely forming a coalition and he can expect some Arab rebels. Perhaps the Latin Empire would join too. Here's my app, I edited a little bit. I posted it earlier but idk if it was accepted or not.

CODE: SELECT ALL
GENERAL
Formal Nation Name:la Serenissima del Marocco
Colloquial Nation Name:Marocco(Italian spelling of Morocco)
Territory(Map Preferred):(map will be up eventually) Morocco+Western Sahara+ Coast of Mauritania+ North/Western Algeria+ Dominican Republic+ Angola+ Socotra+ City of Taipei+North Eastern Mexico+ Either Fernando Po or Sao Tome and Principe( which ever one is not taken)
Flag/Symbolism:
http://m.imgur.com/L8YPWSE?r

Demonym:Maroccan
Capital:Feś
GOVERNMENTAL
Government Type:Merchant Republic
Government Ideology:Trade focused
Brief Government Explanation:Marocco is a Merchant Republic built on similar lines such as that of Venice. The Doge is the head of both state and government and after being elected, rules for life. After the death of a Doge the Maggior Consiglio convenes to elect a new Doge. The Maggior Consiglio consists of 2,000 of the most successful merchants from across Marocco. The Minor Consiglio consists of 120 merchants, one from each of the powerful trade families of the country. The Minor Consiglio may veto legislation of the Doge if the Minor Consiglio votes to do so by 3/4 of the Minor Consiglio. The Doge also must have new taxes passed by the Minor Consiglio in order to go into effect.
Head of State:Doge Roberto Gallo
Head of Government:Doge Roberto Gallo
Foreign Policy: Marocco's foreign policy has long been trade based. Marocco has a friendly relationship with Venice and a longstanding regional rivalry with Florence. It has a complicated relationship with the Papal States as though it is a major trade partner, they clash over the issue of religious freedom.It has extensive trade relations with other African nations as well as the various tribes of the Sahara. Recently the issue of Florentine control over Songhai has become the largest foreign policy issue. Some in the Consiglio beleive that it is best to negotiate with Florence while others are demanding military action. As previously stated most of Marocco's foreign policy revolves around its trade relations. Marocco often uses the tactic of Gunboat Diplomacy to force foreign, less developed bations to enter in to one sided trade deals.
Domestic Policy: Marocco's domestic policy emphasizes pro-commerce policies. The government, being largely made up of merchants, often caters to businesses. Marocco has seceral state owned banks which it uses to invest and give loans to various companies as well as foreign countries. Marocco is a fairly liberal nation and has promoted open minded thinking in the government. It has adopted several humanist platforms and received many liberal refugees fleeing persecution prinarily in Northern Europe.
State Religion: Marocco has no state religion. The Edict of Tangier was passed in 1509 and established freedom of religion on the grounds that it did not challenge the authority of the government. Marocco has large Jewish, Christian, Muslim, and a growing Agnostic communities.

SOCIAL
Population:18.2 million
Colonial Population:
Nuovo Napoli:1,300,000(non-native)
Santo Domingo:200,000 (non-native)
Nuovo Calabria: 130,000 (non-native)
Elsewhere: 19,000 (non-native)
Ethnic Groups:Biancas(whites)=40%of population, Berbers=20% of population,Jews=5% of population, Arabs=30% of population, Blacks=5% of population
Primary Culture:Italian
Other Cultures:Arab, Berber, Jewish

ECONOMIC
Economic Description:The economy of Marocco is one of the strongest in the world. It is primarily trade based but also has large industrial, mining, and agricultural sectors. It trade posts set up in various foreign nations. It once dominated the Trans-Saharan trade with West Africa, but it has been increasingly encroached upon by the Florentines. It has large textile and ammunition manufacturing industries due to large supplies of wool, cotton lead and sulfur. It has a growing steel industry which supplements its ship and weapon building sectors as well as construction. In the agricultural sector fishing and cictrus are the primary industries. Due to vast irrigation projects in years past the country, especially the north, is much more arable and easier to farm in than in the past. Crops from the New World have also become more common and cotton production has increased.Mining is a prosperous and growing industry in Marocco. Lead, sulfur, salt, iron, and silver are the most common minerals, often found in deposits in the Atlas mountains. The colonies provide raw materials such as cash crops like tobacco, sugar, and cotton being produced in Nuovo Napoli(Northeast Mexican colony) and Santo Domingo. Mineral goods such as gold, iron, copper, silver, and some diamonds from Nuovo Calabria(Angola) are also produced and then shipped back to Marocco for processing.
Industrialization Level: Marocco, like many other Mediterranean nations is fairly industrialized. It lags behind some of the Italian nations, especially in the heavier industries such as steel and ship manufacturing. Major industries in the country are the textile and ammunition industries. The steel and other various related industries are also growing at a rapid rate in the country. Railroads already crisscross the North and coast of the country.
Economic Ideology: Marocco is a trade driven nation, trading cheap manufactured goods to undeveloped nations in return for raw rescources which it then processes. It attempts to compete with European rivals but recently has been lagging behind. Due to this recent government efforts have aimed at combatting European influence in West Africa as well as becoming more competitive in the market in general.
Main Trading Partners:Venice, West African tribes and nations, China, Japan,Native Americans bordering Nuovo Napoli, Iberia, Navarre, Milan
Colonial Economic Policy(If Applicable):Mercantilist

MILITARY
Military Description(Tactics, training, etc.):The military of Marocco is mostly involved with fighting various Saharan tribes and natives in the colonies. Marocco has not fought another advanced nation in over a hundred years and so its troops have become more used to fighting insurgencies and guerrilla wars. The Berbers make excellent calvary troops that are used as dragoons largely in the Sahara. Most other troops consist of artillery and infantry designed to be fast and lightweight in the desert where most operations take place. Troops are accustomed to fighting in a variety of climates however, from coastal marshes and plains in West Africa to the deserts of the Sahara to the icy Atlas mountains and highlands. Due to often fighting in harsh climates the military tries to avoid large, pitched battles and instead attempts to make it impossible for the enemy army to fight. Recently single shot bolt action rifles have begun to be fazed in to the general military, with the reserve still using front loading rifled muskets.
Army(Include active duty, reserves, etc.): 120,000 active duty in Marocco, 35,000 active duty in colonies, 42,000 reserve in Marocco, 60,000 reserve/militia in colonies
Navy(Include number of marines and ships, etc.): 32 CSS Virginia style ironclads, 64 steam driven armored warships, 68 river boats, 42 steam driven transport ships, 31,000 sailors and marines
Elite Units:
Berber calvary: Elite calvary equipped with the most modern repeating rifles and revolvers as well as large intimidating sabres. They act primarily as dragoons but also excel at close range combat. They are fast and travel light. They will strike and then melt away into the dunes of the Sahara. Many are raised on horses from a young age and some Berbers are still semi-nomadic.
Barbary marines: These are elite marines that are deployed primarily in the colonies. They excel in hand to hand combat.
Atlas mountain scouts: These are largely in the reserve and serve as border troops on the border of Berberistan. They are sharpshooters and hunters used to dealing with Wolves, lions, and bears in the Atlas highlands.
Tanks: These are experimental and currently only a dozen are operational, the government has instead put more focus on airship technology.
Airships: Besides Venice, Marocco has made the most advancements in airship technology. They possess a modest fleet of 16 operating and semi-operating airships with two different classes.

HISTORY
Brief History of Nation:
1470's-1503:Marocco was the result of shrewd politics and greed. European merchants had long resided in the nation but it was during the reconquista that they saw the oppurtunity and siezed it. After the industrial revolution in Italy in the 1470's Morocco was seeking more contact with these nations in order to gain the new precious trade goods. The government of the then Islamic Morocco invited many Christian merchants from around the Mediterranean to settle in the country in order to establish relations with the Christian governments in Italy and other parts of Southern Europe. After several years the merchants began to dislike the Muslim government which did not allow for the creation of banks, the institution of interest, and their continued prohibition on alcohol. Witnessing the Iberians success in the reconquista in the North the merchants, who had grown considerably in size, invited the nations of Castile, Aragon, and Portugal to invade Morocco in 1491 with the promise of funding. The Iberians quickly took up the offer and after defeating Granada they launched an invasion of Morocco. The invasion soon gained the support of the Moroccan merchant class as well as other Mediterranean nations and the Papal State declared it a Crusade and sent troops to aid the Iberians. After 5 years of war Morocco had been conquered and occupied. The merchants were initially pleased but soon began to resent their liberators. They found the Iberians policies non productive and believed the inquisition was a waste of resources. In 1503, with the support of the Venetians the merchants once again overthrew the government, which was essentially a puppet of the newly united Spain, and created their own government built on similar principles of that of Venice.
1504-1538: During this time period Marocco expands rapidly both in territory and in technology and in economic prowess. From 1504 until 1509 there is a minor inquisition within Marocco perpetrated by the ruling Chistians. The remaining royalty as well as most of the remaining imams and other Islamic figures are exiled or sold into slavery. In 1509 in the face of a rebellion by Muslim peasants the Edict of Tangier is passed which establishes religious freedom on the grounds that it does not threaten the authority of the government. Large tracts of arable land are left vacant after the deportation of much of the former landed class. This land is taken into the hands of the Maroccan government and is divied up and rented to new European immigrants. During these years Marocco experienced a flood of European immigration. Many Jews from Iberia as well as others fled to Marocco from the inquisition in Iberia. These desperate immigrants settled largely in the Northern cities and provided cheap labor for the growing industries. Another source of immigration was a sizable amount of middle class Europeans, rich enough to afford the tracts of land left by the former nobles but not rich enough to set up their own factories. It was during these early years that Marocco experienced great economic growth due to its dominance of the Trans-Saharan trade as well as growth in trade elsewhere such as the New World. The first Maroccan colony in the New World was that of Santo Domingo, established by merchants in 1523. Later in 1538 colonies along the coast of modern Mexico, named Nuovo Napoli, are established.
1538-1590: During these years Marocco switched focuses for a period. Falsely believing that the Trans-Saharan trade was secure the government began to divert its interest elsewhere. Large scale irrigation projects took place, allowing for more farmable land being available for the steady stream of European immigrants. The colonies began to expand rapidly during this era in both size and population. Meanwhile industry began to grow even larger in the north of the country. It was during this time that a second source of European immigrants arrived en masse. The Morisco's were the descendants of Muslims who had once populated Granada. Despite large amounts of intermarriage with the Spanish as well as concerting to Christianity they continued to face persecution by the Spanish government.In 1568 this culminated in a bloody revolt which lasted 7 years. After the revolt the whole Morisco community was exiled, primarily to Marocco. Most of these hundreds of thousands of immigrants were directed to colonies in the New World, swelling their populations and borders.
1590-1660: In this era Marocco begins to lose its dominance in the Trans-Saharan trade and becomes endangered of being completely cut out of it. In 1594 Marocco declares war on the Ottoman empire which occupies the neighboring regions in modern day Algeria. Early offenses push the Ottomans back close to the border with Tunis. In 1596 a Ottoman counter offensive takes back large swathes of territory until the Maroccans are able to set up a defensive front in the mountains of Western Algeria. In the next 2 years a long war of attrition develops in the Atlas mountains ending in 1598 with a pyrrhic Maroccan victory. Western Algeria is annexed but the army is decimated and support in the government shaken. New military tactics are developed as a result of the war, aimed at wearing out the enemy army with attrition tactics while attempting to engage in as little of direct combat as possible.Throughout the early 1600's the issue with Songhai becomes more intense and there are several border disputes and skirmishes. This leads to a series of several forts being established in the Sahara in order to preserve some form of Moroccan sovereignty. Over time these forts become more connected and increas in number untill there are almost 3 dozen forts dotting the Sahara each with a garrison of at least 500 soldiers.
1660-1671: During these years Maroccan actions become bokder in the Sahara as Florence begins to experience internal troubles. In 1666 the Marrocans take over the port of Taipei and it becomes a prosperous trade post in East Asia. In the 1668 the current leader, Roberto Gallo, is elected Doge. He descends from the powerful Gallo family and is very ambitious and wants to live up to his grandfather, who was once Doge himself. Roberto is an experienced soldier and statesman and is 33 in 1671. He is an oppurtunist who desires to expand Marocco.
Date of Nation's PoD:1491

666(DO NOT REMOVE)
I can change the history if you want me to as there is no Florence. Also could I get the Songhai as my protectorate if that's ok.


"The Most Serene of the Morocco"

Didn't we already have that conversation?

La Serenissima Republicca di Marocco
Are you happy?
Also, is that a yes on Songhai being my protectorate?

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Postby Togeria » Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:24 pm

I had to finish the rest of the post on my phone.
I love telegrams please by all means telegram me!


DEFCON LEVELS
[1] peace
2 hostilities
3engaged conflicts
4War
Maldaria- Victory
GSW-Victory
Revolution in Sharphats-Stalemates
2nd Russian civil war-indecisive
Parazal Civil War-Support wasn't active militarily
I am deeply sorry for the attacks on your nations capital, and pray for those affected by the attacks both in Paris and throughout France. As a fellow Muslim I apologize deeply and in place of those who use our religion to commit such an heinous crime. I pray for France, for Paris, and for all those affected.

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The Ik Ka Ek Akai
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Postby The Ik Ka Ek Akai » Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:25 pm

Conchabira wrote:
The Ik Ka Ek Akai wrote:
"The Most Serene of the Morocco"

Didn't we already have that conversation?

La Serenissima Republicca di Marocco
Are you happy?
Also, is that a yes on Songhai being my protectorate?


I mean, the Songhai historically fell because of Morocco, so...

Unless San has something to say, I'd be fine with it.

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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:27 pm

Togeria wrote:
Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:Um, I would not start a war. Our navy outnumbers yours 3 to 1 plus we are advanced in coastal invasion so Beijing could fall within a matter of weeks.

Beijing isn't my capital, and hell you mean advance in coastal invasion? This isn't HOI.

Oh. Sorry about that but it would still be devastating to loose such a city. As for the coastal invasion, I don't mean Normandy but being able to land in enemy territory effectively from the sea. How do you think we defeated Korea and Manchurian so well? Plus, this war would destroy your fleet.
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