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by Albertae » Sat May 28, 2016 12:35 pm
The United Equstrian Front wrote:So are you waiting for the groups then?


by The United Equstrian Front » Sat May 28, 2016 1:42 pm

by Albertae » Sat May 28, 2016 1:43 pm

by The United Equstrian Front » Sat May 28, 2016 2:01 pm

by Albertae » Sat May 28, 2016 2:24 pm
The United Equstrian Front wrote:I feel that this upcoming battle is going to be either bloody or extremely tactical.

by Keshokif » Sat May 28, 2016 3:18 pm

by Albertae » Sat May 28, 2016 3:20 pm
Keshokif wrote:Eoxaguthi OrBat: (Combined)
550 Professional/Elite Troops:
200 Sand Brigade (Spearmen) (Elite)
50 Wermodi Spearmen (Spearmen)
50 Dajkẽni Pikemen (Pikemen)
50 Knights of the Realm (Heavy Cavalry) (Elite)
50 Sun Knights (Heavy Cavalry)
150 Bows of the Southern Fort (Longbowmen) (Elite)
3,000 Swords/Blunt Weapons:
1,500 Longswordmen
1,000 Broadswordsmen
500 Hammermen
6,000 Polearmsmen:
500 Glaivesmen
2,500 Spearmen
500 Pikemen
1,500 Bardichesmen
1,000 Halberdiers
6,000 Ranged:
4,000 Longbowmen
1,500 Crossbowmen
500 Javelinmen
450 Cavalry:
150 Heavy Cavalry
200 Light Cavalry
100 Knights


by Keshokif » Sat May 28, 2016 3:38 pm
Albertae wrote:Keshokif wrote:Eoxaguthi OrBat: (Combined)
550 Professional/Elite Troops:
200 Sand Brigade (Spearmen) (Elite)
50 Wermodi Spearmen (Spearmen)
50 Dajkẽni Pikemen (Pikemen)
50 Knights of the Realm (Heavy Cavalry) (Elite)
50 Sun Knights (Heavy Cavalry)
150 Bows of the Southern Fort (Longbowmen) (Elite)
3,000 Swords/Blunt Weapons:
1,500 Longswordmen
1,000 Broadswordsmen
500 Hammermen
6,000 Polearmsmen:
500 Glaivesmen
2,500 Spearmen
500 Pikemen
1,500 Bardichesmen
1,000 Halberdiers
6,000 Ranged:
4,000 Longbowmen
1,500 Crossbowmen
500 Javelinmen
450 Cavalry:
150 Heavy Cavalry
200 Light Cavalry
100 Knights
Way too many longbowmen. Turn it down and put the numbers into something else. In history English Longbowmen were trained from the early age of 7 and trained a lot. You wouldn't have that many. On the contrary learning to use a Crossbowmen is easy. Also, that's way too many Knights. Knights were very very expensive.

by Albertae » Sat May 28, 2016 3:41 pm
Keshokif wrote:Albertae wrote:
Way too many longbowmen. Turn it down and put the numbers into something else. In history English Longbowmen were trained from the early age of 7 and trained a lot. You wouldn't have that many. On the contrary learning to use a Crossbowmen is easy. Also, that's way too many Knights. Knights were very very expensive.
Knights were expensive, you are correct. However, they were a member of nobility, not just an elite unit. If you don't think you could find 100 minor nobles to ride a horse, as well as another 100 in service to the Lords directly, then I'm not sure what these minor lords are doing with their time.
With the longbowmen, you have to remember that longbows are House Wermodi's strong suit. They have always had longbowmen, and a distinct advantage when it comes to ranged attacks. I could shift some longbowmen into short-bowmen, but the reality is that a large portion of House Wermodi's troops would be dedicated to bowmanry.

by Keshokif » Sat May 28, 2016 3:45 pm
Albertae wrote:Keshokif wrote:Knights were expensive, you are correct. However, they were a member of nobility, not just an elite unit. If you don't think you could find 100 minor nobles to ride a horse, as well as another 100 in service to the Lords directly, then I'm not sure what these minor lords are doing with their time.
With the longbowmen, you have to remember that longbows are House Wermodi's strong suit. They have always had longbowmen, and a distinct advantage when it comes to ranged attacks. I could shift some longbowmen into short-bowmen, but the reality is that a large portion of House Wermodi's troops would be dedicated to bowmanry.
I don't agree at all with the minor lord. Yes you can find 100 minor lords, but at what cost and how long would it take? Your main settlements are along the two rivers on the east side of your realm. As for bowmanry I agree all the way with you on that. Just switch a bunch to short bowmen. Longbowmen were a strong suit of the Brits and even still it took a very long time to train someone from childhood to have the strength, accuracy and speed to fire it effectively. British longbowmen could get 20 very accurate shots out per minute. That's very good when it comes to a large 4ft longbow.

by Albertae » Sat May 28, 2016 3:49 pm
Keshokif wrote:Albertae wrote:I don't agree at all with the minor lord. Yes you can find 100 minor lords, but at what cost and how long would it take? Your main settlements are along the two rivers on the east side of your realm. As for bowmanry I agree all the way with you on that. Just switch a bunch to short bowmen. Longbowmen were a strong suit of the Brits and even still it took a very long time to train someone from childhood to have the strength, accuracy and speed to fire it effectively. British longbowmen could get 20 very accurate shots out per minute. That's very good when it comes to a large 4ft longbow.
The cost is really no object. While I agree it would be costly, you have to remember that we're fighting an extremely defensive war. We're on the back foot, and we're outnumbered. Any rational King would spare no expense. I can change the Knight levies (not retinues, though) to Heavy Cavalry, if you're not convinced, but desperate times call for desperate measures as the old saying goes.


by Keshokif » Sat May 28, 2016 3:54 pm
Albertae wrote:Keshokif wrote:The cost is really no object. While I agree it would be costly, you have to remember that we're fighting an extremely defensive war. We're on the back foot, and we're outnumbered. Any rational King would spare no expense. I can change the Knight levies (not retinues, though) to Heavy Cavalry, if you're not convinced, but desperate times call for desperate measures as the old saying goes.
Yes and you wouldn't have 200 Knights charging into battle. The Cursades had thousands charging into battle because the pope could not only afford it but he had a greatly inspiring goal in his religious soldiers hearts. The famous hym of the crusades was, "Onward Christian Soldiers, going as to war with the cross of Jesus ..." Now you don't have that. The realm is in ruin. There's a major power vacuum. Two major nobles have died recently. A lot of Knights and minor nobles will be fighting to gain power instead of fighting to defend power.

by Albertae » Sat May 28, 2016 3:56 pm
Keshokif wrote:Albertae wrote:
Yes and you wouldn't have 200 Knights charging into battle. The Cursades had thousands charging into battle because the pope could not only afford it but he had a greatly inspiring goal in his religious soldiers hearts. The famous hym of the crusades was, "Onward Christian Soldiers, going as to war with the cross of Jesus ..." Now you don't have that. The realm is in ruin. There's a major power vacuum. Two major nobles have died recently. A lot of Knights and minor nobles will be fighting to gain power instead of fighting to defend power.
You never said how many you think, if any, should be transferred to Heavy Cavalry, so you've left me with nearly nothing.

by Keshokif » Sat May 28, 2016 3:56 pm

by Albertae » Sat May 28, 2016 3:58 pm

by The United Equstrian Front » Sat May 28, 2016 3:58 pm

by Albertae » Sat May 28, 2016 3:59 pm
The United Equstrian Front wrote:He's putting a limit to knights Kesh. it's at exactly 100.

by Keshokif » Sat May 28, 2016 4:00 pm

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by Albertae » Sat May 28, 2016 4:05 pm
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