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Postby Scienticia » Fri May 06, 2016 2:43 pm

Ism wrote:Scientifica cloning force sensitives does not end well.


No, not what I meant at all... Crap was that not clear? I was gonna clone normal soldiers, sprung
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Postby Ism » Fri May 06, 2016 2:45 pm

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Ism wrote:Eventually was towards the end of the Galactic War. Or immediately at the end of it. So that's thousands of years ago. And it seems likely that the recall was around this time too, as this is all within the same section, in the same paragraph of the article.

I'm looking at the wiki right now and the section you quoted was not in the same paragraph that was referring to the end of the Galactic War, but in the paragraph after, and the paragraph immediately after the section you quoted starts with "In 22 BBY," so the section you cited covers around 3600 years of Ilum's history. There is absolutely no way to know from that article whether the Jedi left the planet closer to the Clone Wars or closer to the Galactic War.


Except that after the Galactic War there is no indication that the Jedi turned to another crystal source. Rather, it seems they immediately reclaimed Ilum. There is no reference to a time gap, andj the reason it is "eventually" is that the Galactic War's end date is not yet set because TOR is still going on.

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Postby Brusia » Fri May 06, 2016 2:46 pm

Scienticia wrote:
Ism wrote:Scientifica cloning force sensitives does not end well.


No, not what I meant at all... Crap was that not clear? I was gonna clone normal soldiers, sprung

How did your faction even know where to find Kamino since according to the wiki "Throughout its history, the location and very existence of Kamino was known to only a handful of beings"

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Postby Parcia » Fri May 06, 2016 2:48 pm

Scienticia wrote:
The first Galactic Republic wrote:But there's Jedi in it.

What are you going to do blow it up? Protected by canon, you'll have to seize it somehow.


*cough*sith assassins and commandoes*cough*


SOme one say "sith Assassin"?
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Postby Ism » Fri May 06, 2016 2:50 pm

Parcia wrote:
Scienticia wrote:
*cough*sith assassins and commandoes*cough*


SOme one say "sith Assassin"?


This job involves Koja the Hutt. You really want to take that risk?

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Postby Second Helghan Empire » Fri May 06, 2016 2:53 pm

Character Name: Lord Razarac (Ruh-Zair-ack), Full name and title is High Lord Mael Razarac, formerly Jedi Knight Fer Meran
Species: Human
Age: 25
Sex: Male
Physical Appearance: face body Armor

Affiliation: Technically the Jedi Lords. However he has begun feeling the pull of the darkside and his methods without any shadow of a doubt are brutal though just and fair.

Occupation: Jedi lord/ High Lord of Razaracki (his domain)
Equipment: Lightsaber, Medium armor.
Powers: All generic force abilities taught by the Jedi. He also has Force Telekinesis aka Push/pull, Force Choke, Force Augmented speed and strength, Force shield blast, Force masking

Abilities: mastery of the Shii-Cho form, Capable use of Makashi form, Capable use of Ataru form, mild piloting skills, excellent physicality, excellent oratory skills.


Backstory (Optional): Originally taught by a master on Coruscant, the young Fer Meran travelled with his master to several different hotspots. He soon felt the strong division between the Jedi Order from his home and his comrades who fought and died beside him.

Growing up in battle Fer eventually tried to convince his master to become a Jedi Lord. The two quarreled and soon became hostile with one another. At age 19 Fer was elevated to the full status of Jedi Knight and left the side of his master. Taking his own apprentice Fer launched attacks against Sith positions alongside several different republic forces in the galactic northeast. Gaining mild fame was bittersweet in the end when his padawan was killed by a sith sent specifically to dispatch Fer.

While Fer managed to slay the sith he never truly recovered from the loss of his closest friend and the person he felt responsible to protect. Watching her die at 22 years of age Fer changed.

He completely changed his persona. With an elite guard of republic troopers the new Jedi Lord Mael Razarac asserted his control over the planets he had liberated. He was welcomed and considered a hero by the people. Within the following year he established his closest supporters as lords over individual planets and became the highlord of 20 inhabited worlds. Shortly after this his old master returned to see what had become of his padawan.

In the short but violent confrontation between the two after disagreeing about the new laws used in governing of the people under Razarac. His master considered them oppressive and violent, however they had brought peace and easy unification to the planets. As the two squabbled Razarac focused on painful memories of his master's past and went so far as to remind him of lives he could have saved if only he had tried to be a better jedi.

In an instant the two began fighting, sabers crackling as they connected. Razarac's guards sprinted in and leveled their weapons waiting for a chance to save their liege. They never got the chance, as their high lord swept his saber through him killing him.

Later the man would be officially considered a fallen jedi.

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Faction Name: Razaracki Dominion of the Jedi Lords.
Character: High Lord Razarac (Ruh-Zair-ack)
Major Locations: Razarac, named after High lord Razarac it is his capital, it was renamed, from Handooine, after him upon him becoming a Jedi Lord.
Saleucami, An outer world in Razaracki Seleucami is a diverse world used mostly in the production of medical and technological supplies.
The Wheel, the best known space station in the galaxy (only because no one has built the deathstar yet) with massive casinos and hangars for ships, the Wheel is a massive trade hub and the main commercial center for Razaracki.

Some other places that are still important but not as much are, Anzat a former Sith friendly world, New Holstice an urban world often used by republic forces for it's massive and well developed hospitals, Roche Asteroid Field the Roche Asteroid field has many foundries and shipwrights, Aargon a mostly arid world rich in natural resources, and Jabiim a continuously shifting mud world with great amounts of natural resources.

Description of Faction: A rigid Jedi Lord Domain, with a Hammurabi style of just though brutal law. Their are 20 planets not directly under the administration of Razarac, each is ruled by a low Lord.

Description of Forces: Made up of multiple species the forces of the High lord are called the Dominion Guard. Few in number they were created to aide any Planetary defense fight and the republic within the borders other Dominion. The Greatest of the Dominion Guard are the High Lord's Own, or the Lord's Guard, they wield vibro blade halberds along with their blaster carbines and are excellent in acrobatic combat. The Planetary Defense forces are much larger though poorer trained and outfitted than the Dominion Guard. They are defense but really are just reserves for the Dominion Guard.

Dominion Guard:
Land: 65,000 troops
Naval:5 incus-class light carriers, 2 centurion-class Battlecruisers, 4 hammerhead-class Cruisers, 5 Cal-Class battleships, 15 destroyers, 21 Axe-Head Frigates, ~200 freighters of various shapes and sizes.

High Lord's Own:
Land: 10 Guardians (Force Sensitive Lightsaber wielding but too weak in the force to be considered jedi or sith, they just sense a force sensitive's presence and can commune with High Lord Razarac) 800 High Lord Guardsmen
Naval:1 Atgeir-Class battle cruiser, 2 Destroyers, 3 Praetorian-class frigates, 5 Specialized freighters and around 100 various fighters

Planetary Defense Forces:
Land: 20 Low Jedi Lords, all 20 lords armies combined approaches 300,000 troops. including some heavy weaponry.
Naval: The combined lords' navies-5 emancipater-class carriers, 8 incus-class light carriers, 3 centurion-class battle cruisers, 6 Cal-Class battleships, 8 Hammerhead-class cruisers, 38 destroyers, 67 Frigates (37 Axehead-class and 30 Praetorian class), ~100 corvettes, 1000+ freighters of various construct.

Loaned Republic Troops:
Land:10,000
Naval:2 Interdictor-class Cruisers, 2 Foray-class frigates

Each lord of each planet has control over his PDF, though he can be overruled by Razarac.

Affiliation: as one of the Jedi lords, the Razaracki dominion is currently aligned with the republic. However they are beginning to feel a wedge being driven between the dominion and the Republic.

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Character Name: Lord Mala Arkain
Species: Chiss
Age: 23
Sex: Female
Physical Appearance: Face Robes

Affiliation: Low lord in service of High Lord Razarac, Razaracki Dominion, Jedi Lords, Republic

Occupation: Warrior, Politician, Chief Diplomat of the Dominion

Equipment: Two lightsabers, one orange and one blue.
A small palace on Saleucami.

Powers and Abilities: General Jedi Force powers along with extremely proficient acrobatic skills.
Backstory (Optional): A close friend and supporter of Razarac, she joined him when he became a Jedi lord and became his second in command.

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Postby Parcia » Fri May 06, 2016 2:54 pm

Ism wrote:
Parcia wrote:
SOme one say "sith Assassin"?


This job involves Koja the Hutt. You really want to take that risk?


If he drops the bounty, then sure.
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Postby Ism » Fri May 06, 2016 2:56 pm

Parcia wrote:
Ism wrote:
This job involves Koja the Hutt. You really want to take that risk?


If he drops the bounty, then sure.


You picked him up and threw him at someone like a rock. You really think a hutt would drop that bounty? I mean, you could take it anyway, Malakith might hide your involvement but that's a big risk if Malakith weighs an assassin against a Grand Moff in terms of allies.

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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Fri May 06, 2016 2:59 pm

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The first Galactic Republic wrote:It just seems like the public wouldn't buy that before the investigators found out the truth. Even if they gave up the public still wouldn't arrive to that conclusion en masse.


Not to mention no one is on Ilum to report it. And the Jedi probably would not go telling everyone when they found out.


The first Galactic Republic wrote:Your mining operations could realistically only be very limited though to avoid detection.

Also and again, how do you know about the planet at all?



Records from the Sith Empire presumably. And no they could be moderate. Padawans would not have the focus to notice something so far away through the force, and even a large mining operation is not visible from space.

No but ships coming in and out, especially the freighters bringing in heavy loads, would not be undetectable.
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Postby Ism » Fri May 06, 2016 3:00 pm

The first Galactic Republic wrote:
Ism wrote:
Not to mention no one is on Ilum to report it. And the Jedi probably would not go telling everyone when they found out.





Records from the Sith Empire presumably. And no they could be moderate. Padawans would not have the focus to notice something so far away through the force, and even a large mining operation is not visible from space.

No but ships coming in and out, especially the freighters bringing in heavy loads, would not be undetectable.


So we used cloaked ships, as I noted earlier the Umbranauts have used such ships to run blockades.

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Postby Brusia » Fri May 06, 2016 3:00 pm

Ism wrote:Except that after the Galactic War there is no indication that the Jedi turned to another crystal source. Rather, it seems they immediately reclaimed Ilum. There is no reference to a time gap, andj the reason it is "eventually" is that the Galactic War's end date is not yet set because TOR is still going on.

I think it just as likely that the reason they used "eventually" is because they don't have a set date on when the Jedi largely left the planet, and just know it happened sometime between the Galactic War and the Clone Wars. I see nothing in the article which states the Jedi left closer to the end of the former than closer to the beginning of the latter, so it is pure speculation to say they left before the New Sith Wars. It just seems very illogical to me that the Jedi would abandon a planet that they considered to be of great importance while they were at war with the Sith.

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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Fri May 06, 2016 3:00 pm

Scienticia wrote:
The first Galactic Republic wrote:Where did two-thousand force sensitive children come from?


I kidnapped all of them... YAY!

You have to RP that in detail.

It seems like you just pulled it out of your butt.
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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Fri May 06, 2016 3:01 pm

Ism wrote:
The first Galactic Republic wrote:No but ships coming in and out, especially the freighters bringing in heavy loads, would not be undetectable.


So we used cloaked ships, as I noted earlier the Umbranauts have used such ships to run blockades.

How big are these cloaked ships?
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Postby Brusia » Fri May 06, 2016 3:04 pm

Did Kamino even have cloning technology during the New Sith Wars?

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Postby Imperial Xenon » Fri May 06, 2016 3:11 pm

Brusia wrote:Did Kamino even have cloning technology during the New Sith Wars?

Not that I know of

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Postby Parcia » Fri May 06, 2016 3:12 pm

Brusia wrote:Did Kamino even have cloning technology during the New Sith Wars?

As far back as 19,000 BBY, so yea.
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Postby Imperial Xenon » Fri May 06, 2016 3:13 pm

Parcia wrote:
Brusia wrote:Did Kamino even have cloning technology during the New Sith Wars?

As far back as 19,000 BBY, so yea.

But how'd you kidnap 2,000 force sensitive without the Jedi or other Sith knowing?

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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Fri May 06, 2016 3:15 pm

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Parcia wrote:As far back as 19,000 BBY, so yea.

But how'd you kidnap 2,000 force sensitive without the Jedi or other Sith knowing?

I know right.

Btw I'll get to posting on Rayhanah's (you got her name wrong the first time lol) escape since I know you might not be on forever.

Do you want to keep fighting in the camp Brusia and Parcia or will you follow the freighter that's about to fly overhead?
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Postby Parcia » Fri May 06, 2016 3:16 pm

The first Galactic Republic wrote:
Imperial Xenon wrote:But how'd you kidnap 2,000 force sensitive without the Jedi or other Sith knowing?

I know right.

Btw I'll get to posting on Rayhanah's (you got her name wrong the first time lol) escape since I know you might not be on forever.

Do you want to keep fighting in the camp Brusia and Parcia or will you follow the freighter that's about to fly overhead?


preferably long enough to extract Rayhanah and then im GTFOing.
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Postby Pantorrum » Fri May 06, 2016 3:17 pm

If you are planning to clone force sensitive children, just so you know, it will probably result in devastating failure. Vader had major trouble doing so, failing multiple times. Your force sensitive clones would most likely, 19 out of 20 times, be failures.
If they couldnt do it even after 19 BBY successfully, then I doubt it was any more possible in 1500 BBY.

Also, I want to know how you accomplished such a huge undertaking without anyone knowing. You didn't really RP it or allow any interaction to foil your plans.
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Postby Imperial Xenon » Fri May 06, 2016 3:17 pm

The first Galactic Republic wrote:
Imperial Xenon wrote:But how'd you kidnap 2,000 force sensitive without the Jedi or other Sith knowing?

I know right.

Btw I'll get to posting on Rayhanah's (you got her name wrong the first time lol) escape since I know you might not be on forever.

Do you want to keep fighting in the camp Brusia and Parcia or will you follow the freighter that's about to fly overhead?

I'll probably follow the freighter since I don't have many leads. But, yeah sorry for the name mishap, I was trying to remember it and couldn't remember xD

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Postby Imperial Xenon » Fri May 06, 2016 3:18 pm

Pantorrum wrote:If you are planning to clone force sensitive children, just so you know, it will probably result in devastating failure. Vader had major trouble doing so, failing multiple times. Your force sensitive clones would most likely, 19 out of 20 times, be failures.
If they couldnt do it even after 19 BBY successfully, then I doubt it was any more possible in 1500 BBY.

Also, I want to know how you accomplished such a huge undertaking without anyone knowing. You didn't really RP it or allow any interaction to foil your plans.

Or how he found kamino in the first place since they liked to stay hidden and how he got them to agree to help him.

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Postby Brusia » Fri May 06, 2016 3:30 pm

Imperial Xenon wrote:
Pantorrum wrote:If you are planning to clone force sensitive children, just so you know, it will probably result in devastating failure. Vader had major trouble doing so, failing multiple times. Your force sensitive clones would most likely, 19 out of 20 times, be failures.
If they couldnt do it even after 19 BBY successfully, then I doubt it was any more possible in 1500 BBY.

Also, I want to know how you accomplished such a huge undertaking without anyone knowing. You didn't really RP it or allow any interaction to foil your plans.

Or how he found kamino in the first place since they liked to stay hidden and how he got them to agree to help him.

Right? The wiki even said "Throughout its history, the location and very existence of Kamino was known to only a handful of beings" I'd like to know how exactly he managed to be one of those few people.

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Postby Brusia » Fri May 06, 2016 3:32 pm

The first Galactic Republic wrote:
Imperial Xenon wrote:But how'd you kidnap 2,000 force sensitive without the Jedi or other Sith knowing?

I know right.

Btw I'll get to posting on Rayhanah's (you got her name wrong the first time lol) escape since I know you might not be on forever.

Do you want to keep fighting in the camp Brusia and Parcia or will you follow the freighter that's about to fly overhead?

Freighter sounds good. With the Republic troops and other slaves freed, Claudius doesn't really have any reason to stick around.

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Postby Imperial Xenon » Fri May 06, 2016 3:41 pm

Brusia wrote:
Imperial Xenon wrote:Or how he found kamino in the first place since they liked to stay hidden and how he got them to agree to help him.

Right? The wiki even said "Throughout its history, the location and very existence of Kamino was known to only a handful of beings" I'd like to know how exactly he managed to be one of those few people.

Someone said Sith records, but I doubt they had records on it's location. I think he needs to do serious RP to meet the Kaminoans and then some just to get them to agree to clone his army for him. It costed a fortune IIRC for the clones themselves and instantly made them known, it'd also require years of secret cloning since the Kaminoans said it took decades or centuries something like that to perfect their cloning techniques for the Repuics clones in the CW's. Not to mention, the fact, the Jedi didn't notice force sensitive disappearing alongside the other Sith. And since he's not cloning force sensitive, I can only assume he's making those 2,000 into an army, which I feel will be used as borderline power playing to conquer territory and beat others without properly RP'ng those actions first.

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