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Postby Prusselanden » Fri Aug 05, 2016 4:53 pm

Kingdom of Irhk wrote:
Luminesa wrote:So much burn it made Bruno Mars and Mark Ronson call the police and the fireman.

So much burn the Devil turned to ice when he heard her speak.

So much burn it burned down the Fire Nation.

McGonagall is the Queen of Burn.


A dragon is already asking for retirement.

And so is Moltres.
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Postby Chrome Legion » Fri Aug 05, 2016 5:22 pm

Oh, Rabbit is very Mary Sue. Soliel, eh, not really.

Ignis is just a mess.
The year’s at the spring,
And day’s at the morn;
Morning’s at seven;
The hill-side’s dew-pearled;
The lark’s on the wing;
The snail’s on the thorn;
God’s in His heaven—
All’s right with the world!

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Postby Charlia » Fri Aug 05, 2016 5:41 pm

Luminesa wrote:Soleil is a 48. Ouch. I dunno, does anyone else think he's a Trauma Sue/Mary Sue? I think his tragic character is about as standard as any tragic character.

Rabbit is a 55. Even more ouch. This is a problem.

Man, what site did you even use? I use the Universal Mary Sue Litmus Test, or occasionally the Writer's Mary Sue Test when I feel lazy.

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Postby Chrome Legion » Fri Aug 05, 2016 5:58 pm

Charlia wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Soleil is a 48. Ouch. I dunno, does anyone else think he's a Trauma Sue/Mary Sue? I think his tragic character is about as standard as any tragic character.

Rabbit is a 55. Even more ouch. This is a problem.

Man, what site did you even use? I use the Universal Mary Sue Litmus Test, or occasionally the Writer's Mary Sue Test when I feel lazy.


I used the first one.
The year’s at the spring,
And day’s at the morn;
Morning’s at seven;
The hill-side’s dew-pearled;
The lark’s on the wing;
The snail’s on the thorn;
God’s in His heaven—
All’s right with the world!

hi!

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Postby Saleon » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:02 pm

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Charlia wrote:Man, what site did you even use? I use the Universal Mary Sue Litmus Test, or occasionally the Writer's Mary Sue Test when I feel lazy.


I used the first one.
I liked the second one. The first one takes years to finish, but is good. I think the first one is a little harsh just because of how many "points" you can amass, along with how harsh the point system is. The second one is nice, and I feel it is lenient enough.
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Postby Hetland 2 » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:07 pm

Charlia wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Soleil is a 48. Ouch. I dunno, does anyone else think he's a Trauma Sue/Mary Sue? I think his tragic character is about as standard as any tragic character.

Rabbit is a 55. Even more ouch. This is a problem.

Man, what site did you even use? I use the Universal Mary Sue Litmus Test, or occasionally the Writer's Mary Sue Test when I feel lazy.

Solomon got 13.
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Postby Charlia » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:07 pm

Saleon wrote:
Chrome Legion wrote:
I used the first one.
I liked the second one. The first one takes years to finish, but is good. I think the first one is a little harsh just because of how many "points" you can amass, along with how harsh the point system is. The second one is nice, and I feel it is lenient enough.

But... the De-Suifiers work quite well.


I actually once got negative points for a character because of all the De-Suifiers. ^-^

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Postby Saleon » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:08 pm

Charlia wrote:
Saleon wrote:I liked the second one. The first one takes years to finish, but is good. I think the first one is a little harsh just because of how many "points" you can amass, along with how harsh the point system is. The second one is nice, and I feel it is lenient enough.

But... the De-Suifiers work quite well.


I actually once got negative points for a character because of all the De-Suifiers. ^-^
true, true.
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Postby Chrome Legion » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:10 pm

Charlia wrote:
Saleon wrote:I liked the second one. The first one takes years to finish, but is good. I think the first one is a little harsh just because of how many "points" you can amass, along with how harsh the point system is. The second one is nice, and I feel it is lenient enough.

But... the De-Suifiers work quite well.


I actually once got negative points for a character because of all the De-Suifiers. ^-^


Catherine was either a 0 or -1 depending on some question.

Now I'm doing the second test for all my characters.
The year’s at the spring,
And day’s at the morn;
Morning’s at seven;
The hill-side’s dew-pearled;
The lark’s on the wing;
The snail’s on the thorn;
God’s in His heaven—
All’s right with the world!

hi!

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Postby Prusselanden » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:11 pm

Chrome Legion wrote:Oh, Rabbit is very Mary Sue. Soliel, eh, not really.

Ignis is just a mess.

She's an anti-sue
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Postby Charlia » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:24 pm

Saleon wrote:
Charlia wrote:But... the De-Suifiers work quite well.


I actually once got negative points for a character because of all the De-Suifiers. ^-^
true, true.

...it was actually Hikari.

Kasumi was more of a Mary Sue than Hikari. I do not understand. XD
Chrome Legion wrote:
Charlia wrote:But... the De-Suifiers work quite well.


I actually once got negative points for a character because of all the De-Suifiers. ^-^


Catherine was either a 0 or -1 depending on some question.

Now I'm doing the second test for all my characters.
A second opinion is always useful!

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Postby Kingdom of Irhk » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:27 pm

Charlia wrote:
Saleon wrote:true, true.

...it was actually Hikari.

Kasumi was more of a Mary Sue than Hikari. I do not understand. XD
Chrome Legion wrote:
Catherine was either a 0 or -1 depending on some question.

Now I'm doing the second test for all my characters.
A second opinion is always useful!


I don't even know what a Mary Sue is.
Nothing to see here, move along.

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Postby Hetland 2 » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:28 pm

Shit, now I really want to bring in solomon's sister. Have her be a polar opposite of him.
Don't worry. I'm just a bridge troll that feeds on forum drama.
Harbinger of the RP endtimes.
we will send a air stare on libya if they don't stop their attack
The krang countered the wave with something. And continued to try and take over the decepticon seeker.
Everybody! Can you stop saying that the cargo ship sinking we have done lately was a war crime. We were trying to economically destroy the UK.
Mair glows brightly and transforms in a human, wearing a white cloak, "leave us"
"FIRE IN THE HOE" he bellowed before triggering the explosive.
Julius Ceasar was a normal 14 year old who played Elder Tale in Russia.
We have already established, more powerful beings are not a proper weakness.

I miss Kare-bear :C

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Postby Chrome Legion » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:28 pm

Second test:
Annice 28

Catherine: 21

Hailey: 14

Tsukuyomi: 26

Hmm, second test was much more harsh on Annice than Tsukuyomi. Interesting.
The year’s at the spring,
And day’s at the morn;
Morning’s at seven;
The hill-side’s dew-pearled;
The lark’s on the wing;
The snail’s on the thorn;
God’s in His heaven—
All’s right with the world!

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Postby Saleon » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:34 pm

Those who know Unyan, she somehow got 39 on the second test. I don't know... Nothing about her is a mary sue, and things which may be attributed to that are used as a comedic gag. Her odd name looks like onion, but is pronounced "oon-yawn." She has magical powers to summon creepy teddy bears... and she comes from a magical kingdom that is technologically superior from the rest of the world. I am confuse.
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Postby Luminesa » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:37 pm

Chrome Legion wrote:Oh, Rabbit is very Mary Sue. Soliel, eh, not really.

Ignis is just a mess.

Well, can I make him better? What can I do to make him better?
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Postby Luminesa » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:41 pm

Charlia wrote:
Saleon wrote:true, true.

...it was actually Hikari.

Kasumi was more of a Mary Sue than Hikari. I do not understand. XD
Chrome Legion wrote:
Catherine was either a 0 or -1 depending on some question.

Now I'm doing the second test for all my characters.
A second opinion is always useful!

It's because Kasumi is Rei and Hikari is Asuka. Rei is a borderline Mary Sue who does very questionable things and never gets told-off for them, who is unnaturally beautiful, and who is essentially Commander Ikari's fantasy. Asuka is a normal teenager who is a brat with an unusual backstory, but she's not allowed to get away with as much.

That being said, I still prefer Rei, only because I feel it's not completely her fault. Anno didn't do a good job, in my opinion, of developing her, and she could have been a much better character.

Overall, Misato is best NGE girl (and I will always stand by this), because she's the in-between.
Catholic, pro-life, and proud of it. I prefer my debates on religion, politics, and sports with some coffee and a little Aquinas and G.K. CHESTERTON here and there. :3
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"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
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Postby Luminesa » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:43 pm

Kingdom of Irhk wrote:
Charlia wrote:...it was actually Hikari.

Kasumi was more of a Mary Sue than Hikari. I do not understand. XDA second opinion is always useful!


I don't even know what a Mary Sue is.

TvTropes will explain it better, but essentially a character who is a.) OP, b.) has flaws but is never criticized for them, and/or c.) is considered perfect by mostly everyone.
Catholic, pro-life, and proud of it. I prefer my debates on religion, politics, and sports with some coffee and a little Aquinas and G.K. CHESTERTON here and there. :3
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"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
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Help the Ukrainian people, here's some sources!
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Postby Chrome Legion » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:45 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Chrome Legion wrote:Oh, Rabbit is very Mary Sue. Soliel, eh, not really.

Ignis is just a mess.

Well, can I make him better? What can I do to make him better?


Well, he's mostly a Mary Sue, because you've been using him to forward the plot, so for now I'd just leave it alone. Most of the Mary Sue things he does is to move along the plot or character interaction, so it's kind of necessary.
The year’s at the spring,
And day’s at the morn;
Morning’s at seven;
The hill-side’s dew-pearled;
The lark’s on the wing;
The snail’s on the thorn;
God’s in His heaven—
All’s right with the world!

hi!

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Postby Luminesa » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:48 pm

Chrome Legion wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Well, can I make him better? What can I do to make him better?


Well, he's mostly a Mary Sue, because you've been using him to forward the plot, so for now I'd just leave it alone. Most of the Mary Sue things he does is to move along the plot or character interaction, so it's kind of necessary.

Well...I will admit I have been using Rabbit for a lot...I have a tendency to panick when my RPs slow down. Sorry. XD

But like, is the character bad? I'm worried now, I've never been told a character is a Mary Sue, and I wanna make them better.
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faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
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Postby Kingdom of Irhk » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:50 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Kingdom of Irhk wrote:
I don't even know what a Mary Sue is.

TvTropes will explain it better, but essentially a character who is a.) OP, b.) has flaws but is never criticized for them, and/or c.) is considered perfect by mostly everyone.


Ooooooh. Now I get it.

Now I shall make the test to see my characters' score.
Nothing to see here, move along.

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Postby Luminesa » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:51 pm

Kingdom of Irhk wrote:
Luminesa wrote:TvTropes will explain it better, but essentially a character who is a.) OP, b.) has flaws but is never criticized for them, and/or c.) is considered perfect by mostly everyone.


Ooooooh. Now I get it.

Now I shall make the test to see my characters' score.

I wouldn't think any of yours are too bad...
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"I'm just a singer of simple songs, I'm not a real political man. I watch CNN, but I'm not sure I can tell you the difference in Iraq and Iran. But I know Jesus, and I talk to God, and I remember this from when I was young:
faith, hope and love are some good things He gave us...
and the greatest is love."
-Alan Jackson
Help the Ukrainian people, here's some sources!
Help bring home First Nation girls! Now with more ways to help!
Jesus loves all of His children in Eastern Europe - pray for peace.
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Postby Saleon » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:55 pm

only 30 on the first test, hit some desueifiers fortunately, but I am still high on mary sue. I ask how.
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Postby Charlia » Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:56 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Charlia wrote:...it was actually Hikari.

Kasumi was more of a Mary Sue than Hikari. I do not understand. XDA second opinion is always useful!

It's because Kasumi is Rei and Hikari is Asuka. Rei is a borderline Mary Sue who does very questionable things and never gets told-off for them, who is unnaturally beautiful, and who is essentially Commander Ikari's fantasy. Asuka is a normal teenager who is a brat with an unusual backstory, but she's not allowed to get away with as much.

That being said, I still prefer Rei, only because I feel it's not completely her fault. Anno didn't do a good job, in my opinion, of developing her, and she could have been a much better character.

Overall, Misato is best NGE girl (and I will always stand by this), because she's the in-between.

...I didn't make them as Rei and Asuka though. I made them as Kasumi and Hikari. I only realized the similarities after the fact and then started using it as a running gag. :p

It's not like Katelyn, who was Kyoko at first and then became her own character. I don't understand it.

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There is no Mary Sue greater than this.

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