The War Cry of Uncle Sam [OOC, Closed]

[Duestchstien]

May I play this RP.

[Prolieum]

May I play this RP.

Possibly. At present all land is taken, but there are a few possibilities.

1. By tomorrow night, some people who made WIP apps hit their time-out deadline, and their territory opens up.
2. We need someone to roleplay as an already extant character, controlling a significant force, so that is a possibility.
3 You can sign on as someone's vice commander, or something of the sort, if you wish.

[Hobbesistan]

OK, I only have a minute free, so I will just quick-review, and be gone again.

1. Midway is already taken by the Connies, and has a squadron there. However, Iwo Jima has no such presence by them, and thus is fully free for the taking. American Samoa only has one company there, so any dedicated effort to take it is pretty much guaranteed to succeed (I should note that garrison data is OOC knowledge). The Northern Marianas and Virgin Islands also have only a company each, still easy pickings. Wake and Midway have both received squadrons and more significant forces, and Guam currently is holding the nation's seven subs and the tenders, alongside a pair of squadrons. All can probably be taken if you make a dedicated effort, but the latter three are going to require a fight.

There's absolutely zero mention of Midway in the IC thread before I took it? I deliberately checked lol.

edit: There's also no mention of midway in this thread either before I claimed it. Where are you getting this from?

2.Possible mixup-Freedonia is primarily the western states-red on the map. The American Union is the Midwest.

May be looking at a outdated map.

[Duestchstien]

May I play this RP.

Possibly. At present all land is taken, but there are a few possibilities.

1. By tomorrow night, some people who made WIP apps hit their time-out deadline, and their territory opens up.
2. We need someone to roleplay as an already extant character, controlling a significant force, so that is a possibility.
3 You can sign on as someone's vice commander, or something of the sort, if you wish.

The map shows blank spots like Florida and Pennsylvania are those the people who might time out.

[Prolieum]

OK, I only have a minute free, so I will just quick-review, and be gone again.

1. Midway is already taken by the Connies, and has a squadron there. However, Iwo Jima has no such presence by them, and thus is fully free for the taking. American Samoa only has one company there, so any dedicated effort to take it is pretty much guaranteed to succeed (I should note that garrison data is OOC knowledge). The Northern Marianas and Virgin Islands also have only a company each, still easy pickings. Wake and Midway have both received squadrons and more significant forces, and Guam currently is holding the nation's seven subs and the tenders, alongside a pair of squadrons. All can probably be taken if you make a dedicated effort, but the latter three are going to require a fight.

There's absolutely zero mention of Midway in the IC thread before I took it? I deliberately checked lol.

2.Possible mixup-Freedonia is primarily the western states-red on the map. The American Union is the Midwest.

May be looking at a outdated map.

In the apps on the front page.

[Prolieum]

Possibly. At present all land is taken, but there are a few possibilities.

1. By tomorrow night, some people who made WIP apps hit their time-out deadline, and their territory opens up.
2. We need someone to roleplay as an already extant character, controlling a significant force, so that is a possibility.
3 You can sign on as someone's vice commander, or something of the sort, if you wish.

The map shows blank spots like Florida and Pennsylvania are those the people who might time out.

Conveniently, yes, but that is only because the map has not been updated. The updated version is here.

The only issue is that Hawaii is not filled in.

[Hobbesistan]

There's absolutely zero mention of Midway in the IC thread before I took it? I deliberately checked lol.


May be looking at a outdated map.

In the apps on the front page.

That referring to Midway or the nations thing?

Because I still have no idea how Midway is owned by the Connies when it hasn't been mentioned once by anyone besides me in this thread or the IC

[Prolieum]

In the apps on the front page.

That referring to Midway or the nations thing?

Because I still have no idea how Midway is owned by the Connies when it hasn't been mentioned once by anyone besides me in this thread or the IC

It was noted in the little fact-sheet whatever that it had all the U.S.'s unincorporated territories-which includes Midway. I could have sworn a squadron was sent there directly in the IC, but I suppose not.

[Hobbesistan]

That referring to Midway or the nations thing?

Because I still have no idea how Midway is owned by the Connies when it hasn't been mentioned once by anyone besides me in this thread or the IC

It was noted in the little fact-sheet whatever that it had all the U.S.'s unincorporated territories-which includes Midway. I could have sworn a squadron was sent there directly in the IC, but I suppose not.

Yeah, there's no mention in the IC or OOC of it.

So am I good or?

[Prolieum]

It was noted in the little fact-sheet whatever that it had all the U.S.'s unincorporated territories-which includes Midway. I could have sworn a squadron was sent there directly in the IC, but I suppose not.

Yeah, there's no mention in the IC or OOC of it.

So am I good or?

"The nation was soon joined by the handful of the U.S.'s tiny unincorporated territories..."

[Duestchstien]

The map shows blank spots like Florida and Pennsylvania are those the people who might time out.

Conveniently, yes, but that is only because the map has not been updated. The updated version is here.

The only issue is that Hawaii is not filled in.

Could U.S. Territories be an option like Puerto Rico or the U.S. Virgin Islands.

[Prolieum]

Conveniently, yes, but that is only because the map has not been updated. The updated version is here.

The only issue is that Hawaii is not filled in.

Could U.S. Territories be an option like Puerto Rico or the U.S. Virgin Islands.

Puerto Rico got taken by UESC. Virgin Islands and the like are taken by the Connies.

[Hobbesistan]

Yeah, there's no mention in the IC or OOC of it.

So am I good or?

"The nation was soon joined by the handful of the U.S.'s tiny unincorporated territories..."

That's super shady and doesn't name what specific territories you're taking.

That'd be like me going like "the nation was soon joined by a handful of pacific nations" without actually clarifying what pacific nations are joining me or why they're joining me into someone tries to land on one that would apply to me.

not trying to be rude just it's a super buzzkill over a technicality.

[Prolieum]

"The nation was soon joined by the handful of the U.S.'s tiny unincorporated territories..."

That's super shady and doesn't name what specific territories you're taking.

That'd be like me going like "the nation was soon joined by a handful of pacific nations" without actually clarifying what pacific nations are joining me or why they're joining me into someone tries to land on one that would apply to me.

not trying to be rude just it's a super buzzkill over a technicality.

The nation was soon joined by the handful of the U.S.'s tiny unincorporated territories...

The U.S.'s unincorporated territories. If it said "a", you would have a point, but it does not.

[Prolieum]

Scalise is coming, he has a wedding tomorrow, so he is going to get on late. I will see, once he arrives, if he will give up Minnesota-if not, Finelli and Nudeau are about to run out of time.

[Red Party]

Scalise is coming, he has a wedding tomorrow, so he is going to get on late. I will see, once he arrives, if he will give up Minnesota-if not, Finelli and Nudeau are about to run out of time.

Which states did they claim? TG me as soon a anything is open.

[Prolieum]

Scalise is coming, he has a wedding tomorrow, so he is going to get on late. I will see, once he arrives, if he will give up Minnesota-if not, Finelli and Nudeau are about to run out of time.

Which states did they claim? TG me as soon a anything is open.

Finelli has Oregon/Washington. Nudeau has Florida. I will do my best to remember to do so. Can you witness the aerial fight?

[Red Party]

Which states did they claim? TG me as soon a anything is open.

Finelli has Oregon/Washington. Nudeau has Florida. I will do my best to remember to do so. Can you witness the aerial fight?

Do you mean decide the result? Happy to.

[Hobbesistan]

The U.S.'s unincorporated territories. If it said "a", you would have a point, but it does not.

I'm still totally clueless as to why this makes sense and gives you a free-pass at ALL of the U.S's uncorportated territories, but I digress I guess.

[Duestchstien]

Which states did they claim? TG me as soon a anything is open.

Finelli has Oregon/Washington. Nudeau has Florida. I will do my best to remember to do so. Can you witness the aerial fight?

TG me the next time you have an open spot.

[Hobbesistan]

also, since California is taking the Reagan, we'll be fine with anything else 3F or 7F, i.e, Nimitz, Carl Vinson, John C. Stennis, ect.

[Prolieum]

The U.S.'s unincorporated territories. If it said "a", you would have a point, but it does not.

I'm still totally clueless as to why this makes sense and gives you a free-pass at ALL of the U.S's uncorportated territories, but I digress I guess.

Mind explaining how, then?

[Prolieum]

Finelli has Oregon/Washington. Nudeau has Florida. I will do my best to remember to do so. Can you witness the aerial fight?

TG me the next time you have an open spot.

Understood.

[Prolieum]

also, since California is taking the Reagan, we'll be fine with anything else 3F or 7F, i.e, Nimitz, Carl Vinson, John C. Stennis, ect.

The Reagan is likely going to you-but this requires discussion. The San Diego ships are going to stick with their homeports-Washington is still being decided.

[Prolieum]

Finelli has Oregon/Washington. Nudeau has Florida. I will do my best to remember to do so. Can you witness the aerial fight?

Do you mean decide the result? Happy to.

Sort of, morseo look at the data and see if the result makes sense.

It is cut-and-dry, but since it involves me, I am getting input just to play it safe.

Well's attack can be seen in the IC. I quoted my own post below, hers above.

Francis E. Warren Air Force Base,Cheyenne,Wyoming
The 193rd Special Operations Squadron,
758h Airlift Squadron(modified to be bombers),
And 146th/147th Air Refueling Squadrons(modified to be bombers) are closing in on the Francis E. Warren base,dodging a merciless hail of anti aircraft fire like Ballerinas in a dance.A bomber goes down,crashing itself right onto a Anti-Aircraft gun.exploding with all its bombs onboard creates a spectacular display of triumph and victory.The Fighters start shooting their guns mercilessly at the Anti Aircraft guns,two of them get shot down.The Bombers begin unleashing their lethal cargo.A wave of bombs falls onto several planes,buildings and AA guns.A torrent of flames erupts onto the Runway.A Pilot spots Incoming fighter jets,outnumbering them for to one,one more bomber is shot down before the remaining bombers flee and fighters fire there guns once for before joining formation.In a fateful display of blind faith,three fighters immediately pull up,200 feet above the oncoming fighters and let out a final torrent of fire in a display of New American spirit shoot down two more fighters before in lightning speed rejoining the formation miraculously only one plane is damaged,it manages to stay in air,the fighters eventually back off.The Formation continues on to Willow Grove and refuels their.
(Prolieum gets to call his casualties)
4 planes lost for TNAR,one damaged(will change if seen unreasonable)

War it is, then.


A few comments on the fight.

First, thank you very much for being specific in what you were using. It helps a great deal.
Second, unfortunately, as noted, you still lack a fighter wing, unless there is another besides the 103rd that you have not noted. It was deactivated-the planes are gone-replacing them is the same as getting new ones.
Third, they are not going to get there, essentially. To get to Francis Warren, they need to pass over all of Nebraska, and right next to territory in Missouri, South Dakota, and Kansas. As noted earlier, AWACS is up and running, waiting for something from there, so there is early warning.

To scramble to meet the group-the 175th Squadron from Sioux Falls, the 120th from Buckley, and the 4th, 34th, 421st, and 466th from Hill. They would be intercepted well before they arrived.

Lastly, allowing them to make it there-the craft as far too slow to actually escape-none are even supersonic.

Sounds harsh, trying not to make it so, it is simply a plan that does not work.

The fight is going to be between six squadrons of F-16s, and the two airlift, one refueling, and one special operations squadron designed to be bombers.


For the math-the E-3 is above Kansas City, which is essentially directly on the path to Francis Warren, which makes this easier.

Its detection range is c. 400 miles. The C-130 has a maximum speed of 366 miles/hour-so it will take them a little over an hour to reach the border from detection range.

In times of heightened tension, scramble time is c. two minutes. Fifteen minutes is at low alert-and as made clear earlier, this is high alert

Hill Air Force Base, which has most of the squadrons, is, at most, c. 300 miles from Francis Warren, and, at most, 800 from the border.

F-16 cruising speed is 978 mph. To make it to Francis Warren, it would thus take under twenty minutes, and to the border, a hair under fifty. Even assuming the fifteen-minute scramble period, it makes it to the border before the oncoming craft.



The other two squadrons are closer.

As such, the engagement will occur over Scalise's territory. Now, of course, we need an outcome, but it is, for better or worse, clear.
One-sided battles are always uncomfortable, but I do not see any scenario in which any of the attacking craft survive, or even inflict casualties.