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by Prolieum » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:09 pm
"We are the Canadian Borg. Resistance would be impolite. Please wait to be assimilated. Pour l'assimilation en Francais, appuyer le numero deux."

by Red Party » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:12 pm
Prolieum wrote:War it is, then.
A few comments on the fight.
First, thank you very much for being specific in what you were using. It helps a great deal.
Second, unfortunately, as noted, you still lack a fighter wing, unless there is another besides the 103rd that you have not noted. It was deactivated-the planes are gone-replacing them is the same as getting new ones.
Third, they are not going to get there, essentially. To get to Francis Warren, they need to pass over all of Nebraska, and right next to territory in Missouri, South Dakota, and Kansas. As noted earlier, AWACS is up and running, waiting for something from there, so there is early warning.
To scramble to meet the group-the 175th Squadron from Sioux Falls, the 120th from Buckley, and the 4th, 34th, 421st, and 466th from Hill. They would be intercepted well before they arrived.
Lastly, allowing them to make it there-the craft as far too slow to actually escape-none are even supersonic.
Sounds harsh, trying not to make it so, it is simply a plan that does not work.
The fight is going to be between six squadrons of F-16s, and the two airlift, one refueling, and one special operations squadron designed to be bombers.
For the math-the E-3 is above Kansas City, which is essentially directly on the path to Francis Warren, which makes this easier.
Its detection range is c. 400 miles. The C-130 has a maximum speed of 366 miles/hour-so it will take them a little over an hour to reach the border from detection range.
In times of heightened tension, scramble time is c. two minutes. Fifteen minutes is at low alert-and as made clear earlier, this is high alert
Hill Air Force Base, which has most of the squadrons, is, at most, c. 300 miles from Francis Warren, and, at most, 800 from the border.
F-16 cruising speed is 978 mph. To make it to Francis Warren, it would thus take under twenty minutes, and to the border, a hair under fifty. Even assuming the fifteen-minute scramble period, it makes it to the border before the oncoming craft.
The other two squadrons are closer.
As such, the engagement will occur over Scalise's territory. Now, of course, we need an outcome, but it is, for better or worse, clear.
One-sided battles are always uncomfortable, but I do not see any scenario in which any of the attacking craft survive, or even inflict casualties.

by Prolieum » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:13 pm
Red Party wrote:Prolieum wrote:War it is, then.
A few comments on the fight.
First, thank you very much for being specific in what you were using. It helps a great deal.
Second, unfortunately, as noted, you still lack a fighter wing, unless there is another besides the 103rd that you have not noted. It was deactivated-the planes are gone-replacing them is the same as getting new ones.
Third, they are not going to get there, essentially. To get to Francis Warren, they need to pass over all of Nebraska, and right next to territory in Missouri, South Dakota, and Kansas. As noted earlier, AWACS is up and running, waiting for something from there, so there is early warning.
To scramble to meet the group-the 175th Squadron from Sioux Falls, the 120th from Buckley, and the 4th, 34th, 421st, and 466th from Hill. They would be intercepted well before they arrived.
Lastly, allowing them to make it there-the craft as far too slow to actually escape-none are even supersonic.
Sounds harsh, trying not to make it so, it is simply a plan that does not work.
The fight is going to be between six squadrons of F-16s, and the two airlift, one refueling, and one special operations squadron designed to be bombers.
For the math-the E-3 is above Kansas City, which is essentially directly on the path to Francis Warren, which makes this easier.
Its detection range is c. 400 miles. The C-130 has a maximum speed of 366 miles/hour-so it will take them a little over an hour to reach the border from detection range.
In times of heightened tension, scramble time is c. two minutes. Fifteen minutes is at low alert-and as made clear earlier, this is high alert
Hill Air Force Base, which has most of the squadrons, is, at most, c. 300 miles from Francis Warren, and, at most, 800 from the border.
F-16 cruising speed is 978 mph. To make it to Francis Warren, it would thus take under twenty minutes, and to the border, a hair under fifty. Even assuming the fifteen-minute scramble period, it makes it to the border before the oncoming craft.
The other two squadrons are closer.
As such, the engagement will occur over Scalise's territory. Now, of course, we need an outcome, but it is, for better or worse, clear.
One-sided battles are always uncomfortable, but I do not see any scenario in which any of the attacking craft survive, or even inflict casualties.
Can I have MN?
"We are the Canadian Borg. Resistance would be impolite. Please wait to be assimilated. Pour l'assimilation en Francais, appuyer le numero deux."

by Federal States of Xathuecia » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:23 pm

by Prolieum » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:29 pm
"We are the Canadian Borg. Resistance would be impolite. Please wait to be assimilated. Pour l'assimilation en Francais, appuyer le numero deux."

by Red Party » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:30 pm

by Federal States of Xathuecia » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:31 pm

by Prolieum » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:33 pm
Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:Posted in the IC - Summary: new G.I. bill, new corporate agreement finalized, and no fly zone proclaimed
"We are the Canadian Borg. Resistance would be impolite. Please wait to be assimilated. Pour l'assimilation en Francais, appuyer le numero deux."

by Red Party » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:34 pm
Prolieum wrote:Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:Posted in the IC - Summary: new G.I. bill, new corporate agreement finalized, and no fly zone proclaimed
Going to ask both you, and Red Party as witnesses-you guys agree that, given the situation, that the attacking force gets straight-up wrecked, right?
Red-I checked, everything I have found says tomorrow. I know it really sucks, but it also really sucks to take something if the guy has just had a patch where he cannot get on. I will TG one more time, maybe, maybe, I will move the date up.

by Prolieum » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:35 pm
Red Party wrote:NS Nation Name:Red Party
Position Applying for (Major General of the Republic of New England, President of X country, etc. etc.):President of the Northern Republic, Mark Ruln
Flag of your nation: Standard Minnesotan Flag
One paragraph history of your country (if new country):Quickly after countries began breaking declaring independence, Minnesota was quick to follow naming itself the Northern Republic. The government began quickly buying arms from foreign countries and armed itself with money received from several Minnesota based companies such as 3M and Target
Territory of country (if new country):Minnesota
One paragraph history of your character:Mark Ruln was born in Rosemount in 1995, making him the youngest leader in the world. Mark quickly had an advantage when dealing with countries due to his fluency in 5 languages. Spanish, German, English, Arabic, and French. When Mark was younger, he was quick to pick up politics and grew to like arguing.
Past RP Experiences NEIN!
69420 - DO NOT REMOVE
"We are the Canadian Borg. Resistance would be impolite. Please wait to be assimilated. Pour l'assimilation en Francais, appuyer le numero deux."

by Prolieum » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:35 pm
Red Party wrote:Prolieum wrote:
Going to ask both you, and Red Party as witnesses-you guys agree that, given the situation, that the attacking force gets straight-up wrecked, right?
Red-I checked, everything I have found says tomorrow. I know it really sucks, but it also really sucks to take something if the guy has just had a patch where he cannot get on. I will TG one more time, maybe, maybe, I will move the date up.
Jeez. What time is it for you?
"We are the Canadian Borg. Resistance would be impolite. Please wait to be assimilated. Pour l'assimilation en Francais, appuyer le numero deux."

by Avagra » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:36 pm
Prolieum wrote:Red Party wrote:NS Nation Name:Red Party
Position Applying for (Major General of the Republic of New England, President of X country, etc. etc.):President of the Northern Republic, Mark Ruln
Flag of your nation: Standard Minnesotan Flag
One paragraph history of your country (if new country):Quickly after countries began breaking declaring independence, Minnesota was quick to follow naming itself the Northern Republic. The government began quickly buying arms from foreign countries and armed itself with money received from several Minnesota based companies such as 3M and Target
Territory of country (if new country):Minnesota
One paragraph history of your character:Mark Ruln was born in Rosemount in 1995, making him the youngest leader in the world. Mark quickly had an advantage when dealing with countries due to his fluency in 5 languages. Spanish, German, English, Arabic, and French. When Mark was younger, he was quick to pick up politics and grew to like arguing.
Past RP Experiences NEIN!
69420 - DO NOT REMOVE
What is this 69420? It is driving me mad!
OK, two things needed. First-a lot more on Ruln. Specifically, how, exactly, he came to power. Second, at least a vague overview of policies would be nice, I see you using the corporations, which is good, but a bit more. L


by Prolieum » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:37 pm
Avagra wrote:Prolieum wrote:
What is this 69420? It is driving me mad!
OK, two things needed. First-a lot more on Ruln. Specifically, how, exactly, he came to power. Second, at least a vague overview of policies would be nice, I see you using the corporations, which is good, but a bit more. L
The number is used as a tracker so Coldwater can search that number in the search bar to easily find applications hence why it says DO NOT REMOVE
"We are the Canadian Borg. Resistance would be impolite. Please wait to be assimilated. Pour l'assimilation en Francais, appuyer le numero deux."

by Red Party » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:41 pm

by Prolieum » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:43 pm
Red Party wrote:NS Nation Name:Red Party
Position Applying for (Major General of the Republic of New England, President of X country, etc. etc.):President of the Northern Republic, Mark Ruln
Flag of your nation: Standard Minnesotan Flag
One paragraph history of your country (if new country):Quickly after countries began breaking declaring independence, Minnesota was quick to follow naming itself the Northern Republic. The government began quickly buying arms from foreign countries and armed itself with money received from several Minnesota based companies such as 3M and Target
Territory of country (if new country):Minnesota
One paragraph history of your character:Mark Ruln was born in Rosemount in 1995, making him the youngest leader in the world. Mark quickly had an advantage when dealing with countries due to his fluency in 5 languages. Spanish, German, English, Arabic, and French. When Mark was younger, he was quick to pick up politics and grew to like arguing.Mark is a young handsome man with a stern voice. Marks policies mainly consist of center-left standpoints. He greatly believes in winning using anyway possible. He is fluent in political speak while knowing his way around others. He rose to power using Bernies style of speech. He quickly skyrocketed in support and the world saw its youngest leader.
Past RP Experiences NEIN!
69420 - DO NOT REMOVE
"We are the Canadian Borg. Resistance would be impolite. Please wait to be assimilated. Pour l'assimilation en Francais, appuyer le numero deux."

by Red Party » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:44 pm
Prolieum wrote:Red Party wrote:NS Nation Name:Red Party
Position Applying for (Major General of the Republic of New England, President of X country, etc. etc.):President of the Northern Republic, Mark Ruln
Flag of your nation: Standard Minnesotan Flag
One paragraph history of your country (if new country):Quickly after countries began breaking declaring independence, Minnesota was quick to follow naming itself the Northern Republic. The government began quickly buying arms from foreign countries and armed itself with money received from several Minnesota based companies such as 3M and Target
Territory of country (if new country):Minnesota
One paragraph history of your character:Mark Ruln was born in Rosemount in 1995, making him the youngest leader in the world. Mark quickly had an advantage when dealing with countries due to his fluency in 5 languages. Spanish, German, English, Arabic, and French. When Mark was younger, he was quick to pick up politics and grew to like arguing.Mark is a young handsome man with a stern voice. Marks policies mainly consist of center-left standpoints. He greatly believes in winning using anyway possible. He is fluent in political speak while knowing his way around others. He rose to power using Bernies style of speech. He quickly skyrocketed in support and the world saw its youngest leader.
Past RP Experiences NEIN!
69420 - DO NOT REMOVE
Better, but I need more specifics on his going into power. Was he randomly chosen as a write-in? Was he a celibrity? A political activist who they liked? A dictator with a loyal army to oppress the people into voting for him? Etc.-basically, his position pre-power, and how he attained power-voting, seizure, emergency powers, etc.

by Red Party » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:45 pm

by Prolieum » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:47 pm
Red Party wrote:NS Nation Name:Red Party
Position Applying for (Major General of the Republic of New England, President of X country, etc. etc.):President of the Northern Republic, Mark Ruln
Flag of your nation: Standard Minnesotan Flag
One paragraph history of your country (if new country):Quickly after countries began breaking declaring independence, Minnesota was quick to follow naming itself the Northern Republic. The government began quickly buying arms from foreign countries and armed itself with money received from several Minnesota based companies such as 3M and Target
Territory of country (if new country):Minnesota
One paragraph history of your character:Mark Ruln was born in Rosemount in 1995, making him the youngest leader in the world. Mark quickly had an advantage when dealing with countries due to his fluency in 5 languages. Spanish, German, English, Arabic, and French. When Mark was younger, he was quick to pick up politics and grew to like arguing.Mark is a young handsome man with a stern voice. Marks policies mainly consist of center-left standpoints. He greatly believes in winning using anyway possible. He is fluent in political speak while knowing his way around others. He rose to power using Bernies style of speech. He quickly skyrocketed in support and the world saw its youngest leader. Mark was elected as a popular activist. He was elected to office through voting. Before become a leader Mark studied politics at the U of M.
Past RP Experiences NEIN!
69420 - DO NOT REMOVE
"We are the Canadian Borg. Resistance would be impolite. Please wait to be assimilated. Pour l'assimilation en Francais, appuyer le numero deux."

by Chewion » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:49 pm
Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:Yeah, the Union isn't joining the War. But we are creating a strict no fly zone in the Union. Break it, get invaded.

by Red Party » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:49 pm
Prolieum wrote:Red Party wrote:NS Nation Name:Red Party
Position Applying for (Major General of the Republic of New England, President of X country, etc. etc.):President of the Northern Republic, Mark Ruln
Flag of your nation: Standard Minnesotan Flag
One paragraph history of your country (if new country):Quickly after countries began breaking declaring independence, Minnesota was quick to follow naming itself the Northern Republic. The government began quickly buying arms from foreign countries and armed itself with money received from several Minnesota based companies such as 3M and Target
Territory of country (if new country):Minnesota
One paragraph history of your character:Mark Ruln was born in Rosemount in 1995, making him the youngest leader in the world. Mark quickly had an advantage when dealing with countries due to his fluency in 5 languages. Spanish, German, English, Arabic, and French. When Mark was younger, he was quick to pick up politics and grew to like arguing.Mark is a young handsome man with a stern voice. Marks policies mainly consist of center-left standpoints. He greatly believes in winning using anyway possible. He is fluent in political speak while knowing his way around others. He rose to power using Bernies style of speech. He quickly skyrocketed in support and the world saw its youngest leader. Mark was elected as a popular activist. He was elected to office through voting. Before become a leader Mark studied politics at the U of M.
Past RP Experiences NEIN!
69420 - DO NOT REMOVE
OK, it looks good. Let me run a quick background check on Scalise.
Check complete.
"I have standardized tests at work for the next three days, so the earliest i can be active on this is friday."
He is cleared. Deadline remains tomorrow night. Sorry. Perhaps we can work out a deal where you get Minnesota, or part of it, while he gets the remainder. Finelli better show up soon as well-his deadline is the same.

by Federal States of Xathuecia » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:50 pm

by Prolieum » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:51 pm
"We are the Canadian Borg. Resistance would be impolite. Please wait to be assimilated. Pour l'assimilation en Francais, appuyer le numero deux."

by Prolieum » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:55 pm
Red Party wrote:Prolieum wrote:
OK, it looks good. Let me run a quick background check on Scalise.
Check complete.
"I have standardized tests at work for the next three days, so the earliest i can be active on this is friday."
He is cleared. Deadline remains tomorrow night. Sorry. Perhaps we can work out a deal where you get Minnesota, or part of it, while he gets the remainder. Finelli better show up soon as well-his deadline is the same.
So no territory available? Shit. All these fucking humongous countries.
"We are the Canadian Borg. Resistance would be impolite. Please wait to be assimilated. Pour l'assimilation en Francais, appuyer le numero deux."
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