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Postby Chewion » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:35 am

Ok so are the states working to get her to take put the General and then restore the Union?
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Postby Prolieum » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:35 am

Chewion wrote:Ok I have Texas. Shouldn't we be focused on taking out the General instead of forming new countries? Texas is still a state but is emergency power has been given to Kiser.


That will depend on how everyone interacts.

So, here are the unaligned states.

West Coast: Allen wants it, but it really better fits Nemov.
Arizona/New Mexico: Could go to Eberhardt, Kiser, the Feds, or strike out on their own, conquer Mexico.
Florida: Independent. Williams could try for it, but I could see this as a Federal base, or Stull's
Midwest: Just in general, up to Pennsylvania and the like. The big one.
New York: Likely to go to Cross or Finelli
Alaska: Eberhardt is trying for it, unless there is a new player, no one else is really there for it.
Hawaii: Likely to go with California.
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Postby Prolieum » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:35 am

Chewion wrote:Ok so are the states working to get her to take put the General and then restore the Union?


Some probably will, some probably will not.
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Postby Chewion » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:37 am

Ok well I also want Oklahoma and Louisiana.
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Postby Prolieum » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:41 am

Chewion wrote:Ok well I also want Oklahoma and Louisiana.


If you are simply assuming emergency power in Texas, you would not be able to take them-that you have to be done in-character (Eberhardt has Oklahoma at the moment, but Texas could probably get a hold of it). If Williams is in, and I presume he is, Louisiana is pretty much definitely going to be his.
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Postby Chewion » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:46 am

Prolieum wrote:
Chewion wrote:Ok well I also want Oklahoma and Louisiana.


If you are simply assuming emergency power in Texas, you would not be able to take them-that you have to be done in-character (Eberhardt has Oklahoma at the moment, but Texas could probably get a hold of it). If Williams is in, and I presume he is, Louisiana is pretty much definitely going to be his.

Louisiana would go with Texas because they have a very good relationship. Maybe I will make Texas its own country until the dictator is deposed.
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Postby Neo-Chicago » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:47 am

Prolieum wrote:
Chewion wrote:Ok I have Texas. Shouldn't we be focused on taking out the General instead of forming new countries? Texas is still a state but is emergency power has been given to Kiser.


That will depend on how everyone interacts.

So, here are the unaligned states.

West Coast: Allen wants it, but it really better fits Nemov.
Arizona/New Mexico: Could go to Eberhardt, Kiser, the Feds, or strike out on their own, conquer Mexico.
Florida: Independent. Williams could try for it, but I could see this as a Federal base, or Stull's
Midwest: Just in general, up to Pennsylvania and the like. The big one.
New York: Likely to go to Cross or Finelli
Alaska: Eberhardt is trying for it, unless there is a new player, no one else is really there for it.
Hawaii: Likely to go with California.

Regarding Alaska, what about Garestaer? Message him.
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:49 am

My app includes Alaska, Colorado, Wyoming, the Dakotas, Oregon, Washington, New Mexico, Arizona, and any other non aligned state.
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Postby Prolieum » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:50 am

Neo-Chicago wrote:
Prolieum wrote:
That will depend on how everyone interacts.

So, here are the unaligned states.

West Coast: Allen wants it, but it really better fits Nemov.
Arizona/New Mexico: Could go to Eberhardt, Kiser, the Feds, or strike out on their own, conquer Mexico.
Florida: Independent. Williams could try for it, but I could see this as a Federal base, or Stull's
Midwest: Just in general, up to Pennsylvania and the like. The big one.
New York: Likely to go to Cross or Finelli
Alaska: Eberhardt is trying for it, unless there is a new player, no one else is really there for it.
Hawaii: Likely to go with California.

Regarding Alaska, what about Garestaer? Message him.


I was thinking of him, but assumed he would go with Kiser, and a Texas-Alaska state would be difficult at best to maintain. I will do so, however.

Chewion wrote:
Prolieum wrote:
If you are simply assuming emergency power in Texas, you would not be able to take them-that you have to be done in-character (Eberhardt has Oklahoma at the moment, but Texas could probably get a hold of it). If Williams is in, and I presume he is, Louisiana is pretty much definitely going to be his.

Louisiana would go with Texas because they have a very good relationship. Maybe I will make Texas its own country until the dictator is deposed.


Not as good as with Mississippi though, and they know Williams-as governor, better than they do Kiser, as Senator.

Feel free to make it its own country, but just put some reasoning behind it, should not be too difficult.
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Postby Neo-Chicago » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:58 am

Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:My app includes Alaska, Colorado, Wyoming, the Dakotas, Oregon, Washington, New Mexico, Arizona, and any other non aligned state.

That's simply unsustainable. It's virtually impossible for Alaska to not be aligned, and you just generally should tone it down, because that's way too OP.
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Postby Prolieum » Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:00 am

Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:My app includes Alaska, Colorado, Wyoming, the Dakotas, Oregon, Washington, New Mexico, Arizona, and any other non aligned state.


Eberhardt is from South Dakota-the Dakotas are essentially the core of his state. Wyoming is directly connected. Arizona/New Mexico are definitely battleground states, in a more literal sense than usual-Kiser wants them, Eberhardt wants them, the Feds want them. Alaska could be theirs, but is likely to be Eberhardt or Garestaer's, or possibly California's.
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:15 am

Neo-Chicago wrote:
Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:My app includes Alaska, Colorado, Wyoming, the Dakotas, Oregon, Washington, New Mexico, Arizona, and any other non aligned state.

That's simply unsustainable. It's virtually impossible for Alaska to not be aligned, and you just generally should tone it down, because that's way too OP.

It is the remnants of the US as it is currently hoping to rebuilt the Union. Once it realizes its weakness, it'll fall and reorganize itself - pretty much a loose alliance as States are arguing within it

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Postby Chewion » Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:16 am

Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:My app includes Alaska, Colorado, Wyoming, the Dakotas, Oregon, Washington, New Mexico, Arizona, and any other non aligned state.

That's way to much.
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Postby Prolieum » Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:17 am

Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:
Neo-Chicago wrote:That's simply unsustainable. It's virtually impossible for Alaska to not be aligned, and you just generally should tone it down, because that's way too OP.

It is the remnants of the US as it is currently hoping to rebuilt the Union. Once it realizes its weakness, it'll fall and reorganize itself - pretty much a loose alliance as States are arguing within it

If it is too OP, I'll change myself


I do not know how attached you are to Denver, but with that idea it would definitely be best to centre yourself in the Midwest-it is essentially a big no-man's land, and is an excellent fit for the "loose alliance" idea, since you have people bordering all the other mini-states.
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Postby Prolieum » Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:18 am

Oh, drat, I just realized that if I lose Colarado, i need to remake my flag unless I grab another state. Can I take Mizzou, or is that too midwest-y?
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Postby Chewion » Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:19 am

Prolieum wrote:
Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:It is the remnants of the US as it is currently hoping to rebuilt the Union. Once it realizes its weakness, it'll fall and reorganize itself - pretty much a loose alliance as States are arguing within it

If it is too OP, I'll change myself


I do not know how attached you are to Denver, but with that idea it would definitely be best to centre yourself in the Midwest-it is essentially a big no-man's land, and is an excellent fit for the "loose alliance" idea, since you have people bordering all the other mini-states.

I was hoping to carve a path to Indiana. I think I could do it because Kiser is from Indiana so some states would join him. Indiana would definitely join Kiser.
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Postby Prolieum » Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:21 am

Chewion wrote:
Prolieum wrote:
I do not know how attached you are to Denver, but with that idea it would definitely be best to centre yourself in the Midwest-it is essentially a big no-man's land, and is an excellent fit for the "loose alliance" idea, since you have people bordering all the other mini-states.

I was hoping to carve a path to Indiana. I think I could do it because Kiser is from Indiana so some states would join him. Indiana would definitely join Kiser.


Worth a shot. It really depends a lot on what Williams does.

If Kiser focuses east, then Arizona/New Mexico will be a fight between Eberhardt and the Feds. If Williams is in, he can take Arkansas, and Louisiana, which pretty much means he is guaranteed to be at war with Kiser. If he does not go in, and Kiser snags Arkansas, he can make a path.

The Midwest is really going to be a huge battleground no matter what, which is why I think a Federal government that relocated there, trying to keep everything together with all the squabblers on the edges, is the best idea.
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:22 am

Prolieum wrote:
Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:It is the remnants of the US as it is currently hoping to rebuilt the Union. Once it realizes its weakness, it'll fall and reorganize itself - pretty much a loose alliance as States are arguing within it

If it is too OP, I'll change myself


I do not know how attached you are to Denver, but with that idea it would definitely be best to centre yourself in the Midwest-it is essentially a big no-man's land, and is an excellent fit for the "loose alliance" idea, since you have people bordering all the other mini-states.

Fine - expect an app for the Midwest confederation - as I was an Co-OP, I'll say my leader is still the ex head Supreme Court judge (a moderator in spirit) who was on vacation family in Chicago when the coup occurred. He was elected unanimously by the Governors
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Postby Prolieum » Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:26 am

Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:
Prolieum wrote:
I do not know how attached you are to Denver, but with that idea it would definitely be best to centre yourself in the Midwest-it is essentially a big no-man's land, and is an excellent fit for the "loose alliance" idea, since you have people bordering all the other mini-states.

Fine - expect an app for the Midwest confederation - as I was an Co-OP, I'll say my leader is still the ex head Supreme Court judge (a moderator in spirit) who was on vacation family in Chicago when the coup occurred. He was elected unanimously by the Governors


Sounds good. OK, that changes the west a little.

I assume that you are going to make Chicago your capital. So, the battlezones will be...

Oklahoma. Could go Kiser or Eberhardt.

New Mexico/Arizona are going to be Eberhardt's, since Kiser is focusing east.

Mizzou is the nexus of Williams, Kiser, Eberhardt, and the Feds. It is going to be the new bleeding Kansas.

Minnesota/Iowa are probably fairly solid Fed, but decent Eberhardt support.

Pennsylvania is going to be big, depends on where New York goes, could be Cross, Stull, Feds, or whoever takes New York.

Tennessee is definitely a border battleground.
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Postby Chewion » Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:26 am

Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:
Prolieum wrote:
I do not know how attached you are to Denver, but with that idea it would definitely be best to centre yourself in the Midwest-it is essentially a big no-man's land, and is an excellent fit for the "loose alliance" idea, since you have people bordering all the other mini-states.

Fine - expect an app for the Midwest confederation - as I was an Co-OP, I'll say my leader is still the ex head Supreme Court judge (a moderator in spirit) who was on vacation family in Chicago when the coup occurred. He was elected unanimously by the Governors

Indiana will go with Kiser so don't expect them to be in it. Also Texas is trying to restore the USA.
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Postby Chewion » Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:27 am

Tennessee may go to Kiser because a lot of Texans move there.
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Postby Prolieum » Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:27 am

Chewion wrote:
Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:Fine - expect an app for the Midwest confederation - as I was an Co-OP, I'll say my leader is still the ex head Supreme Court judge (a moderator in spirit) who was on vacation family in Chicago when the coup occurred. He was elected unanimously by the Governors

Indiana will go with Kiser so don't expect them to be in it. Also Texas is trying to restore the USA.


If Kiser plants himself in Indiana, sure. If he takes Texas, then no, they are not going to align with a guy several hundred miles away when they are surrounded entirely by Feds-it would be suicide. For example-Eberhardt was born and raised in Chicago, they like him, but that is the centre of Fed power, so they are definitely not going to declare for him, however much they like him.
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Postby Prolieum » Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:28 am

Chewion wrote:Tennessee may go to Kiser because a lot of Texans move there.


Depends on Williams, again.
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:28 am

Chewion wrote:
Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:Fine - expect an app for the Midwest confederation - as I was an Co-OP, I'll say my leader is still the ex head Supreme Court judge (a moderator in spirit) who was on vacation family in Chicago when the coup occurred. He was elected unanimously by the Governors

Indiana will go with Kiser so don't expect them to be in it. Also Texas is trying to restore the USA.

Well as implied, my Supreme Court Judge is from Indiana (hence visiting family there) so it may be split.
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Postby Chewion » Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:29 am

Prolieum wrote:
Chewion wrote:Indiana will go with Kiser so don't expect them to be in it. Also Texas is trying to restore the USA.


If Kiser plants himself in Indiana, sure. If he takes Texas, then no, they are not going to align with a guy several hundred miles away when they are surrounded entirely by Feds-it would be suicide.

If Kiser can carve a path to them then they may join. At the very least they will be very strong on trade and cooperation with him.
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