The War Cry of Uncle Sam [OOC, Closed]

[Federal States of Xathuecia]

Ugh. Idc anymore. I hate that I lost the war so I want a fresh start. I told you once, I am not returning to the Midwest. CSA probably took Kentucky and the USA took the rest. IT IS OVER!

A few things.

1. As I said, this is a fresh start-it is still the Midwest, but rather different.
2. I do not know where else you are going to go in such a situation-you would end up as some weird mini-faction, which I think you would find boring.
3. The war is not nearly as lost as you think it is.
4. The USA lacks the logistics to take everything over-in all likelihood, you are going to see a civil war break out.

All true. Just don't want the Midwest anymore. I could negotiate but Freedonia is not helpful nor do I want their help. The was is lost.

[Prolieum]

A few things.

1. As I said, this is a fresh start-it is still the Midwest, but rather different.
2. I do not know where else you are going to go in such a situation-you would end up as some weird mini-faction, which I think you would find boring.
3. The war is not nearly as lost as you think it is.
4. The USA lacks the logistics to take everything over-in all likelihood, you are going to see a civil war break out.

The CSA wants Kentucky, and maybe Indiana as a buffer zone.

Depends on how this plays out, but all of Kentucky is going to be essentially impossible, you could squeeze in on the western bit-but there are Texan and Borinquenos armies right there.

[Prolieum]

A few things.

1. As I said, this is a fresh start-it is still the Midwest, but rather different.
2. I do not know where else you are going to go in such a situation-you would end up as some weird mini-faction, which I think you would find boring.
3. The war is not nearly as lost as you think it is.
4. The USA lacks the logistics to take everything over-in all likelihood, you are going to see a civil war break out.

All true. Just don't want the Midwest anymore. I could negotiate but Freedonia is not helpful nor do I want their help. The was is lost.

The only recourse left to you, then, is that small, metropolitan northeastern state-if the new guy does not come back.

[Prolieum]

If the dissolution is going through, Freedonia is claiming Wisconsin, Illinois, and the Upper Peninsula in recompense for the massive debts the AU owed. Maybe Indiana, if it is feasible-which it is likely not.

So much for the peace. This is likely going to lead to an even larger war. If only this happened a month from now.

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

The CSA wants Kentucky, and maybe Indiana as a buffer zone.

Depends on how this plays out, but all of Kentucky is going to be essentially impossible, you could squeeze in on the western bit-but there are Texan and Borinquenos armies right there.

I am repossessing that for all the debts that AU owned to the CSA.

[Red Party]

If the dissolution is going through, Freedonia is claiming Wisconsin, Illinois, and the Upper Peninsula in recompense for the massive debts the AU owed. Maybe Indiana, if it is feasible-which it is likely not.

So much for the peace. This is likely going to lead to an even larger war. If only this happened a month from now.

This war I'm going to be involved in.

[Federal States of Xathuecia]

If the dissolution is going through, Freedonia is claiming Wisconsin, Illinois, and the Upper Peninsula in recompense for the massive debts the AU owed. Maybe Indiana, if it is feasible-which it is likely not.

So much for the peace. This is likely going to lead to an even larger war. If only this happened a month from now.

No. Freedonia is hated and will only bring bloodshed. They would likely just form their own little neutral grounds (I'll be in control of these neutral lands)

I HEREBY DECLARE MYSELF RULER OF ALL THE SMALLER AND SOMETIMES UNIMPORTANT NATIONS!

[Prolieum]

If the dissolution is going through, Freedonia is claiming Wisconsin, Illinois, and the Upper Peninsula in recompense for the massive debts the AU owed. Maybe Indiana, if it is feasible-which it is likely not.

So much for the peace. This is likely going to lead to an even larger war. If only this happened a month from now.

No. Freedonia is hated and will only bring bloodshed. They would likely just form their own little neutral grounds (I'll be in control of these neutral lands)

I HEREBY DECLARE MYSELF RULER OF ALL THE SMALLER AND SOMETIMES UNIMPORTANT NATIONS!

1. Elaborate the smaller/unimportant bit.

2. What reason do the people in those states have to hate Freedonia? Eberhardt is from Illinois, even. I suppose some would want to declare independence, but most would likely prefer a peaceful transition rather than breaking into tiny, warring states.

[Prolieum]

Depends on how this plays out, but all of Kentucky is going to be essentially impossible, you could squeeze in on the western bit-but there are Texan and Borinquenos armies right there.

I am repossessing that for all the debts that AU owned to the CSA.

The question is whether America would let you (their main army is in Kentucky, after all) They are not going to be fans of what Freedonia is doing either, and may take action, the main difficulty being that those places are farther away.

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

Freedonia, want to form a coalition? I will take Western Kentucky, and Indiana, you can take Wisconsin, and Illinois.

[Federal States of Xathuecia]

No. Freedonia is hated and will only bring bloodshed. They would likely just form their own little neutral grounds (I'll be in control of these neutral lands)

I HEREBY DECLARE MYSELF RULER OF ALL THE SMALLER AND SOMETIMES UNIMPORTANT NATIONS!

1. Elaborate the smaller/unimportant bit.

2. What reason do the people in those states have to hate Freedonia? Eberhardt is from Illinois, even. I suppose some would want to declare independence, but most would likely prefer a peaceful transition rather than breaking into tiny, warring states.

They hate Freedonia for not helping. It doesn't matter that Eberhardt is from Illinois, he lived in a city that was bombed and he didn't do a thing about it. He is worth crap.

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

I am repossessing that for all the debts that AU owned to the CSA.

The question is whether America would let you (their main army is in Kentucky, after all) They are not going to be fans of what Freedonia is doing either, and may take action, the main difficulty being that those places are farther away.

How about a non aggression pact in return for giving me war devastated eastern Kentucky.

[Prolieum]

1. Elaborate the smaller/unimportant bit.

2. What reason do the people in those states have to hate Freedonia? Eberhardt is from Illinois, even. I suppose some would want to declare independence, but most would likely prefer a peaceful transition rather than breaking into tiny, warring states.

They hate Freedonia for not helping. It doesn't matter that Eberhardt is from Illinois, he lived in a city that was bombed and he didn't do a thing about it. He is worth crap.

Freedonia did help, though. The Condor Legion, for one-the weapons, for other, and the official line is that Stiergiest was working for Freedonia the whole time. Given that the people were not fans of the war anyway, why would they hate someone for staying out of it? It is not as if they were connected at all-if they were, I would understand, but Freedonia is just another, random, nation.

[Federal States of Xathuecia]

NS Nation Name: Navajo Nation
Position Applying for (Major General of the Republic of New England, President of X country, etc. etc.): President of the Navajo Nation
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One paragraph history of your character:Irid Wessman was a strong statesman in the Navajo Nation. He was well liked and all. With a strong case and with little ties with Freedonia or the southern socialists, he was allowed to form his own independent nation which he seeks to modernize even more though keep the strong ideas of simplicity. More will be revealed ICly.
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[Prolieum]

Freedonia, want to form a coalition? I will take Western Kentucky, and Indiana, you can take Wisconsin, and Illinois.

I am gunning for Indiana-as is America. If there is conflict, it will be there.

Freedonia and the USA are sort-of not at peace. The Battle of Columbus could go into a second day-Freedonia, Stiergiest, and Texas taking out the forces there-but that is likely too much.

[Federal States of Xathuecia]

They hate Freedonia for not helping. It doesn't matter that Eberhardt is from Illinois, he lived in a city that was bombed and he didn't do a thing about it. He is worth crap.

Freedonia did help, though. The Condor Legion, for one-the weapons, for other, and the official line is that Stiergiest was working for Freedonia the whole time. Given that the people were not fans of the war anyway, why would they hate someone for staying out of it? It is not as if they were connected at all-if they were, I would understand, but Freedonia is just another, random, nation.

Doesn't matter. Wisconsin and Illinois will fight you.

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

Freedonia, want to form a coalition? I will take Western Kentucky, and Indiana, you can take Wisconsin, and Illinois.

I am gunning for Indiana-as is America. If there is conflict, it will be there.

Freedonia and the USA are sort-of not at peace. The Battle of Columbus could go into a second day-Freedonia, Stiergiest, and Texas taking out the forces there-but that is likely too much.

A 3 way war for Indiana, that will be fun.

[Prolieum]

NS Nation Name: Navajo Nation
Position Applying for (Major General of the Republic of New England, President of X country, etc. etc.): President of the Navajo Nation
Flag of your nation (if new nation) (Image)
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Territory of country (if new country): (Image)
One paragraph history of your character:Irid Wessman was a strong statesman in the Navajo Nation. He was well liked and all. With a strong case and with little ties with Freedonia or the southern socialists, he was allowed to form his own independent nation which he seeks to modernize even more though keep the strong ideas of simplicity. More will be revealed ICly.
Past RP Experiences

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If Stiergiest ever makes it back, he would just attack it, as would Arizona/New Mexico. As noted with Anahuac and Texas, they are really freaking sick of losing land.

I suppose I can try to think of something that would make it work, the problem is getting ticked-off neoconservatives to be OK with "surrendering"

[Federal States of Xathuecia]

NS Nation Name: Navajo Nation
Position Applying for (Major General of the Republic of New England, President of X country, etc. etc.): President of the Navajo Nation
Flag of your nation (if new nation) (Image)
One paragraph history of your country (if new country): A fairly new nation, it is pacificst with little relavance. Still, it breathes prepared to modernize itself and built a new history.
Territory of country (if new country): (Image)
One paragraph history of your character:Irid Wessman was a strong statesman in the Navajo Nation. He was well liked and all. With a strong case and with little ties with Freedonia or the southern socialists, he was allowed to form his own independent nation which he seeks to modernize even more though keep the strong ideas of simplicity. More will be revealed ICly.
Past RP Experiences

69420 - DO NOT REMOVE

If Stiergiest ever makes it back, he would just attack it, as would Arizona/New Mexico. As noted with Anahuac and Texas, they are really freaking sick of losing land.

I suppose I can try to think of something that would make it work, the problem is getting ticked-off neoconservatives to be OK with "surrendering"

Just forget it then. See y'all I suppose.

[Prolieum]

Freedonia did help, though. The Condor Legion, for one-the weapons, for other, and the official line is that Stiergiest was working for Freedonia the whole time. Given that the people were not fans of the war anyway, why would they hate someone for staying out of it? It is not as if they were connected at all-if they were, I would understand, but Freedonia is just another, random, nation.

Doesn't matter. Wisconsin and Illinois will fight you.

The war-weary citizens, after seeing Chicago destroyed before them, will decide to attack someone who is offering them protection against the foe who did that...why, exactly? Because they did not help enough earlier? They are certainly helping now.

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

Maybe the CSA, Freedonia, and the United States can organize a conference about how to divie up the collapsed AU, instead of resorting to full out war.

[Prolieum]

If Stiergiest ever makes it back, he would just attack it, as would Arizona/New Mexico. As noted with Anahuac and Texas, they are really freaking sick of losing land.

I suppose I can try to think of something that would make it work, the problem is getting ticked-off neoconservatives to be OK with "surrendering"

Just forget it then. See y'all I suppose.

As I said-if you can think of something that would make it work, I am willing to work with it. Do you have no desire to try the New York/New Jersey state? That could be rather interesting.

[Red Party]

If Stiergiest ever makes it back, he would just attack it, as would Arizona/New Mexico. As noted with Anahuac and Texas, they are really freaking sick of losing land.

I suppose I can try to think of something that would make it work, the problem is getting ticked-off neoconservatives to be OK with "surrendering"

Just forget it then. See y'all I suppose.

NOO!

[Prolieum]

Maybe the CSA, Freedonia, and the United States can organize a conference about how to divie up the collapsed AU, instead of resorting to full out war.

That is most certainly what is going to happen.

[Federal States of Xathuecia]

Doesn't matter. Wisconsin and Illinois will fight you.

The war-weary citizens, after seeing Chicago destroyed before them, will decide to attack someone who is offering them protection against the foe who did that...why, exactly? Because they did not help enough earlier? They are certainly helping now.

As I said, forget it.