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Postby Chewion » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:03 pm

Who barred Eberhardt. If this leads to me getting screwed I will destroy you Xacuthia.
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Postby Prolieum » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:04 pm

Chewion wrote:Who barred Eberhardt. If this leads to me getting screwed I will destroy you Xacuthia.


The AU refused to allow him in.
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:06 pm

Chewion wrote:Who barred Eberhardt. If this leads to me getting screwed I will destroy you Xacuthia.

Their refusal to aid is absolutely insulting so Cain really doesn't care about that.
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Postby Chewion » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:07 pm

Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:
Chewion wrote:Who barred Eberhardt. If this leads to me getting screwed I will destroy you Xacuthia.

Their refusal to aid is absolutely insulting so Cain really doesn't care about that.

I bet he will care when I end the AU.
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:07 pm

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Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:Their refusal to aid is absolutely insulting so Cain really doesn't care about that.

I bet he will care when I end the AU.

The AU is currently defeated. You could easily sweep us.
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Postby Prolieum » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:08 pm

Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:
Chewion wrote:Who barred Eberhardt. If this leads to me getting screwed I will destroy you Xacuthia.

Their refusal to aid is absolutely insulting so Cain really doesn't care about that.


Did you miss the part where they carpet-bombed Stull's men?
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Postby Red Party » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:08 pm

Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:
Chewion wrote:I bet he will care when I end the AU.

The AU is currently defeated. You could easily sweep us.

Anyone want to sell aircraft for more than it's worth?
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Postby Prolieum » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:10 pm

Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:
Chewion wrote:I bet he will care when I end the AU.

The AU is currently defeated. You could easily sweep us.


They have no route to you. Their forces currently in the AU could try it, but do not have an effective supply line for the exact same reason. The Texans are dependent on the AU for food for those forces-if they attempted to attack, they could only sustain themselves through pillaging. If they returned to Texas, they would have to re-negotiate passage, and you would have time to build up-plus they sort of have an army on their border right now that wants in.
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:11 pm

Prolieum wrote:
Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:Their refusal to aid is absolutely insulting so Cain really doesn't care about that.


Did you miss the part where they carpet-bombed Stull's men?

Still, at the very end. And it didn't really help a lot. Jackson is trying to reach out.
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Postby Prolieum » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:15 pm

Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:
Prolieum wrote:
Did you miss the part where they carpet-bombed Stull's men?

Still, at the very end. And it didn't really help a lot. Jackson is trying to reach out.


Whatever sympathies I might have, Eberhardt pretty clearly hates Jackson, and is not a fan of this war that they started, so having him call is going to alienate him big-time. No carpet-bombing, and Texas may well not leave the field at all.
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:17 pm

Beauregard loves the war, it is currently doing wonders to the Confederate economy.

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Postby Prolieum » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:19 pm

Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Beauregard loves the war, it is currently doing wonders to the Confederate economy.


Eberhardt has made bank on his arms sales-but he is also a proselytizing moralist who wants this fight done, practically a pacifist, but now has had to switch everything around after getting locked out.
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Postby Red Party » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:20 pm

Prolieum wrote:
Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:Still, at the very end. And it didn't really help a lot. Jackson is trying to reach out.


Whatever sympathies I might have, Eberhardt pretty clearly hates Jackson, and is not a fan of this war that they started, so having him call is going to alienate him big-time. No carpet-bombing, and Texas may well not leave the field at all.

Can I start airstrikes on the NAR for the whole kill your citizens thing.
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Postby Prolieum » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:21 pm

Going to be bluntly honest right now-removing Eberhardt was absolutely the worst thing you could have done. He was going to play the sort of looming power in this-he was going to push for peace, push for a stable one, and had the firepower behind him to back up what he said, and push back any major American claims. With him gone, you are reliant primarily on their desire to get Stull back.
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:23 pm

Prolieum wrote:Going to be bluntly honest right now-removing Eberhardt was absolutely the worst thing you could have done. He was going to play the sort of looming power in this-he was going to push for peace, push for a stable one, and had the firepower behind him to back up what he said, and push back any major American claims. With him gone, you are reliant primarily on their desire to get Stull back.

Its over.
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Postby Krugeristan » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:24 pm

Prolieum wrote:Going to be bluntly honest right now-removing Eberhardt was absolutely the worst thing you could have done. He was going to play the sort of looming power in this-he was going to push for peace, push for a stable one, and had the firepower behind him to back up what he said, and push back any major American claims. With him gone, you are reliant primarily on their desire to get Stull back.


I feel like the world's biggest idiot, disconnected from reality on so many levels.

Good thing Garestaer had therapy, or Cain would have his ass mounted on the wall.
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Postby Prolieum » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:24 pm

I do not think we can get back to Eberhardt's goal of having the American Union keep all of its territory, which had a pretty good chance of happening before the change-mostly since he had to rework his strategy on Stiergiest, but so long as the bluff with Stull is maintained (which will be very touch-and-go with negotiating with the Freedonians), the AU can keep just about everything, save Ohio.
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Postby Prolieum » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:25 pm

Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:
Prolieum wrote:Going to be bluntly honest right now-removing Eberhardt was absolutely the worst thing you could have done. He was going to play the sort of looming power in this-he was going to push for peace, push for a stable one, and had the firepower behind him to back up what he said, and push back any major American claims. With him gone, you are reliant primarily on their desire to get Stull back.

Its over.


Do not be so morbid. Especially if you play your cards right, you can get off of this with essentially losing nothing more than Ohio.
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:25 pm

Prolieum wrote:I do not think we can get back to Eberhardt's goal of having the American Union keep all of its territory, which had a pretty good chance of happening before the change-mostly since he had to rework his strategy on Stiergiest, but so long as the bluff with Stull is maintained (which will be very touch-and-go with negotiating with the Freedonians), the AU can keep just about everything, save Ohio.

Its over. Let me take a quick break to cry but I'll reapp as something else perhaps.
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:25 pm

Prolieum wrote:
Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:Its over.


Do not be so morbid. Especially if you play your cards right, you can get off of this with essentially losing nothing more than Ohio.

No. Over, done, gone, buried, sealed, burned.
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Postby Prolieum » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:26 pm

Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:
Prolieum wrote:I do not think we can get back to Eberhardt's goal of having the American Union keep all of its territory, which had a pretty good chance of happening before the change-mostly since he had to rework his strategy on Stiergiest, but so long as the bluff with Stull is maintained (which will be very touch-and-go with negotiating with the Freedonians), the AU can keep just about everything, save Ohio.

Its over. Let me take a quick break to cry but I'll reapp as something else perhaps.


Are you seriously essentially quitting because you lose one state? You have the highest or second-highest population, and the second-strongest economy. What the heck do you have to complain about?
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:26 pm

Red Party wrote:
Prolieum wrote:
Whatever sympathies I might have, Eberhardt pretty clearly hates Jackson, and is not a fan of this war that they started, so having him call is going to alienate him big-time. No carpet-bombing, and Texas may well not leave the field at all.

Can I start airstrikes on the NAR for the whole kill your citizens thing.

You are not going to get a thing. Stull still sees you as in rebellion and will probably take all the land. And there is not much else.
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:28 pm

Prolieum wrote:
Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:Its over. Let me take a quick break to cry but I'll reapp as something else perhaps.


Are you seriously essentially quitting because you lose one state? You have the highest or second-highest population, and the second-strongest economy. What the heck do you have to complain about?

Not quiting, just going to reapp as something else. The AU was a bit odd and I seriously hate myself for joining in the war. I don't care about the highest population, they practically hate their government and the economy is crap.
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Postby Prolieum » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:29 pm

Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:
Prolieum wrote:
Are you seriously essentially quitting because you lose one state? You have the highest or second-highest population, and the second-strongest economy. What the heck do you have to complain about?

Not quiting, just going to reapp as something else. The AU was a bit odd and I seriously hate myself for joining in the war. I don't care about the highest population, they practically hate their government and the economy is crap.


That is the whole point of ending the war. Kick out Cain, get in a pro-peace leader who is anti-Cain, and you are fine. Why on earth do you think your economy is crap? It is doing better than many, and will improve once you get into the post-war period.

Just dump Cain-there is no reason to dump the AU-you have, with the peace treaty, an absolutely perfect opportunity for a realignment that will essentially be a reset for you.
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Postby Prolieum » Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:30 pm

Heck, pull a WWI Germany-Kaiser Cain abdicates, and a new government is formed. Freedonia might support it, Texas probably would, maybe even the Confederacy. NARU can become something else.
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