The Bonaparte Absence (AH RP/Reboot/OOC)

[Federal States of Xathuecia]

Bavaria is currently at war with you (or has already begun to prepare at least) so this may be a bit dangerous of a nation.

I did not notice. Any good nations left? Otherwise, we will go down swinging.

Well any 'good' nations are outside of Europe now except some North Italian states. Perhaps the Siam in Asia? Or Morocco or Ethiopia in Africa?

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

Spain is still there', and if you really want to play a German state Saxony would be much better as it has a far larger army, and population.

[Federal States of Xathuecia]

Spain is still there', and if you really want to play a German state Saxony would be much better as it has a far larger army, and population.

Forgot those

[Grothmogia]

Spain is still there', and if you really want to play a German state Saxony would be much better as it has a far larger army, and population.

Saxony sounds interesting. Maybe I won't get steamrolled immediately. I will try and get an app out sometime soon.

[Federal States of Xathuecia]

Spain is still there', and if you really want to play a German state Saxony would be much better as it has a far larger army, and population.

Saxony sounds interesting. Maybe I won't get steamrolled immediately. I will try and get an app out sometime soon.

You will be my rival in many ways if you choose Saxony. I'll probably set out to either isolate you or bring you under my region of influence as an ally or vassal.

[Gadrana-Eshil]

A pretty large post is going to be upcoming ^_^ Whoot! Already have two parts, including a letter to France, written.

[Federal States of Xathuecia]

Hmmmm... Persia not like Russia. Ottomans not like Russia. Swedes not like Russia. France and GB not like Austro-Russian Agression. Denmark friends with Austria. Hanover no like Denmark.

Me has plan.

Hey, are you present at the Hamburg meeting? If so, who? I am asking as I am planning to make that my next post.

[Valloria]

Saxony sounds interesting. Maybe I won't get steamrolled immediately. I will try and get an app out sometime soon.

You will be my rival in many ways if you choose Saxony. I'll probably set out to either isolate you or bring you under my region of influence as an ally or vassal.

You may be able to find friendship with me (Austria). I'm well connected, and if Bavaria doesn't hate you (or if our deal falls through, they seem to be overestimating their importance to the Austrian cause), I'd be willing to work something out.

Seriously, Bavaria. I'm not going to allow you to take any territory you occupy. You get Mark, Osnabruck, Cleve, and Minden, as well as the northern half of the Dutch province of Gelderland, and a minimum indemnity of 3 million guldens. You may also negotiate your way into other rewards depending on the importance of your participation. There's no way in hell I'm letting you keep everything you occupy.

Also, if you do decide to see things the way I do, a joint Austro-Bavarian force would most definitely be in order. It would also facilitate good relations between our empires if we had units intermixing. I'd like to send 200,000 men (20,000 Bavarian troops, 180,000 Austrians) along the Rhine to swiftly take the Netherlands. I'd rather it be bloodless, and once we've staked out a position its veeerrrry difficult to uproot the Austrians. If I'm able to get my troops fortified (about three weeks time), I could probably effectively repel any French attacks. And it would take the Brits a significant amount of time to get involved, not to mention send ground troops, and by that time I could have another 70K (20,000 Bavarian, 50,000 Austrian) on the way. This would leave anywhere from 10-30K Bavarians to defend their homeland. That leaves me with 100,000 men for my initial invasion of Prussia, where I'd like to follow a policy of enclosure: 70,000 Austrians (and possibly some Saxons if that guy gets in and joins my side), 170,000 Russians, and 25,000 Danes.

[Federal States of Xathuecia]

You will be my rival in many ways if you choose Saxony. I'll probably set out to either isolate you or bring you under my region of influence as an ally or vassal.

You may be able to find friendship with me (Austria). I'm well connected, and if Bavaria doesn't hate you (or if our deal falls through, they seem to be overestimating their importance to the Austrian cause), I'd be willing to work something out.

Seriously, Bavaria. I'm not going to allow you to take any territory you occupy. You get Mark, Osnabruck, Cleve, and Minden, as well as the northern half of the Dutch province of Gelderland, and a minimum indemnity of 3 million guldens. You may also negotiate your way into other rewards depending on the importance of your participation. There's no way in hell I'm letting you keep everything you occupy.

Also, if you do decide to see things the way I do, a joint Austro-Bavarian force would most definitely be in order. It would also facilitate good relations between our empires if we had units intermixing. I'd like to send 200,000 men (20,000 Bavarian troops, 180,000 Austrians) along the Rhine to swiftly take the Netherlands. I'd rather it be bloodless, and once we've staked out a position its veeerrrry difficult to uproot the Austrians. If I'm able to get my troops fortified (about three weeks time), I could probably effectively repel any French attacks. And it would take the Brits a significant amount of time to get involved, not to mention send ground troops, and by that time I could have another 70K (20,000 Bavarian, 50,000 Austrian) on the way. This would leave anywhere from 10-30K Bavarians to defend their homeland. That leaves me with 100,000 men for my initial invasion of Prussia, where I'd like to follow a policy of enclosure: 70,000 Austrians (and possibly some Saxons if that guy gets in and joins my side), 170,000 Russians, and 25,000 Danes.

Um, you are not going to pass through my lands sir! No way! Pass through France but not through me nor through any of Northwestern Germany unless you want the Meeting of Hamburg to turn into a war meeting. We strongly oppose this idea of future war so we will try to stop any troop movements.

[Valloria]

You may be able to find friendship with me (Austria). I'm well connected, and if Bavaria doesn't hate you (or if our deal falls through, they seem to be overestimating their importance to the Austrian cause), I'd be willing to work something out.

Seriously, Bavaria. I'm not going to allow you to take any territory you occupy. You get Mark, Osnabruck, Cleve, and Minden, as well as the northern half of the Dutch province of Gelderland, and a minimum indemnity of 3 million guldens. You may also negotiate your way into other rewards depending on the importance of your participation. There's no way in hell I'm letting you keep everything you occupy.

Also, if you do decide to see things the way I do, a joint Austro-Bavarian force would most definitely be in order. It would also facilitate good relations between our empires if we had units intermixing. I'd like to send 200,000 men (20,000 Bavarian troops, 180,000 Austrians) along the Rhine to swiftly take the Netherlands. I'd rather it be bloodless, and once we've staked out a position its veeerrrry difficult to uproot the Austrians. If I'm able to get my troops fortified (about three weeks time), I could probably effectively repel any French attacks. And it would take the Brits a significant amount of time to get involved, not to mention send ground troops, and by that time I could have another 70K (20,000 Bavarian, 50,000 Austrian) on the way. This would leave anywhere from 10-30K Bavarians to defend their homeland. That leaves me with 100,000 men for my initial invasion of Prussia, where I'd like to follow a policy of enclosure: 70,000 Austrians (and possibly some Saxons if that guy gets in and joins my side), 170,000 Russians, and 25,000 Danes.

Um, you are not going to pass through my lands sir! No way! Pass through France but not through me nor through any of Northwestern Germany unless you want the Meeting of Hamburg to turn into a war meeting. We strongly oppose this idea of future war so we will try to stop any troop movements.

I'm still your Emperor, and I have the right to move troops to my territory in Belgium, which I will then use to go on right ahead and get to crushin those Prussians.

[Federal States of Xathuecia]

Um, you are not going to pass through my lands sir! No way! Pass through France but not through me nor through any of Northwestern Germany unless you want the Meeting of Hamburg to turn into a war meeting. We strongly oppose this idea of future war so we will try to stop any troop movements.

I'm still your Emperor, and I have the right to move troops to my territory in Belgium, which I will then use to go on right ahead and get to crushin those Prussians.

Ahh but if you declare war, it will be the perfect time for me and my Northwest German allies & vassals to leave the HRE...that is the main purpose of the Meeting of Hamburg plus negotiating influence boundaries with Prussia.

[Valloria]

I'm still your Emperor, and I have the right to move troops to my territory in Belgium, which I will then use to go on right ahead and get to crushin those Prussians.

Ahh but if you declare war, it will be the perfect time for me and my Northwest German allies & vassals to leave the HRE...that is the main purpose of the Meeting of Hamburg plus negotiating influence boundaries with Prussia.

I'll be moving my troops into Belgium before I declare war. Surpriah.

Also, if you stand in my way, I will steamroll you harder than Guy Fieri does every greasy burger he lays his eyes on.

[Stadenwick]

I need more allies. Perhaps Denmark, or France ^_^

Got it Gadrana, My next IC post is all about Portugal and Brits

[The Greater Dutch Republic]

Hanover and it's sphere might declare independence from the HRE? Well, well, well. More allies are always welcome in my struggle against aggression. And Hanover, I'm sending my Foreign Minister, who's name is(I made this up) Klaus von Pozdaum.
To Russia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandra_Feodorovna_(Charlotte_of_Prussia). Do you know what this means? Frederich Wilhelm III's daughter is empress of Russia at this time, meaning you cannot invade me.

[Segmentia]

I guess I should be planning an invasion of Austria then? How bothersome.

[Valloria]

Hanover and it's sphere might declare independence from the HRE? Well, well, well. More allies are always welcome in my struggle against aggression. And Hanover, I'm sending my Foreign Minister, who's name is(I made this up) Klaus von Pozdaum.
To Russia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandra_Feodorovna_(Charlotte_of_Prussia). Do you know what this means? Frederich Wilhelm III's daughter is empress of Russia at this time, meaning you cannot invade me.

Who knows? That marriage may never have happened without Napoleon; Russia can literally blot her name from existence if he'd like. Also, @Prussia, Nicholas I isn't the regnant Tsar, in this timeline Alexander I never caught typhus because he's still evidently Emperor. His consort was actually Badenese.

I guess I should be planning an invasion of Austria then? How bothersome.

I sincerely hope you reconsider your pro-Prussian position, and rather operate in terms of neutrality. Financial aid to Prussia (whose finances are quite pitiful) would be turned a blind eye, however direct military involvement would put an unnecessary financial strain on the United Kingdom. This war won't cost you anything to stay out of. And I'm sure you'd rather have peaceful relations with various powers than hostile ones.

In terms of an invasion, you might have a difficult time with that. We're very good at defending.

[Segmentia]

Maybe if you weren't involving the Russians, but you are, and that is no good for Britain.

And besides, if I can get the formation of my planned Britain-France-Ottoman alliance, we should be able to make decent progress in a war.

[Federal States of Xathuecia]

Maybe if you weren't involving the Russians, but you are, and that is no good for Britain.

And besides, if I can get the formation of my planned Britain-France-Ottoman alliance, we should be able to make decent progress in a war.

Consider this Britain:
Well, as we are good allies and my leader’s wife is going to meet with your queen, she could propose this: Hanover wants to leave the HRE due to its incompetence and weakness and form a modern German congress. We would offer the UK special trade rights and perhaps an observer status within it. This would be in order to ensure that the UK would support our move and send some troops to Hanover in the event that Austria attempts to keep us in by declaring war That would make sense as leaving the HRE will be very difficult and frowned upon by the current emporer. That would also allow the British to already have troops in contential Europe if war breaks out between Prussia and Austria without having to make up a reason or move them in super fast.

[Segmentia]

That is certainly interesting. I'll have to think on it first though. IC post will be up in a few hours.

[Federal States of Xathuecia]

Hanover and it's sphere might declare independence from the HRE? Well, well, well. More allies are always welcome in my struggle against aggression. And Hanover, I'm sending my Foreign Minister, who's name is(I made this up) Klaus von Pozdaum.
To Russia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandra_Feodorovna_(Charlotte_of_Prussia). Do you know what this means? Frederich Wilhelm III's daughter is empress of Russia at this time, meaning you cannot invade me.

M'kay, once war starts, I am leaving the HRE with the signatories of the Meeting. Would Prussia join or parts of it's sphere at least?

[The Greater Dutch Republic]

Valloria, Great Britain isn't pro-Prussia, it's anti-aggression. France and Britain simply want everyone in Europe to chill the heck down.
Xathuecia, may I propose a better German Confederation? We would both share about 45% of the power each, leaving the other 10% to the lesser states, and the inclusion of Baden and Württemburg could easily be justified as Bavaria is both eying them, so we could justify their annexation as protection. Also, that should please France and Britain because neither of us is technically expanding, just expanding out influence over the lesser states.

[Federal States of Xathuecia]

Valloria, Great Britain isn't pro-Prussia, it's anti-aggression. France and Britain simply want everyone in Europe to chill the heck down.
Xathuecia, may I propose a better German Confederation? We would both share about 45% of the power each, leaving the other 10% to the lesser states, and the inclusion of Baden and Württemburg could easily be justified as Bavaria is both eying them, so we could justify their annexation as protection. Also, that should please France and Britain because neither of us is technically expanding, just expanding out influence over the lesser states.

I don't see it as a Confederation but rather a Congress (think UN) where everything is voted on, leaders can be elected (not the royalty so citizen politicians/nobility), and a form of a security council (Triarc, perhaps?) where you & I and the third being rotational can veto anything. Plus a common defense treaty and to an extent, an offensive treaty. We would have defined influence groups though.

[The Greater Dutch Republic]

Valloria, Great Britain isn't pro-Prussia, it's anti-aggression. France and Britain simply want everyone in Europe to chill the heck down.
Xathuecia, may I propose a better German Confederation? We would both share about 45% of the power each, leaving the other 10% to the lesser states, and the inclusion of Baden and Württemburg could easily be justified as Bavaria is both eying them, so we could justify their annexation as protection. Also, that should please France and Britain because neither of us is technically expanding, just expanding out influence over the lesser states.

I don't see it as a Confederation but rather a Congress (think UN) where everything is voted on, leaders can be elected (not the royalty so citizen politicians/nobility), and a form of a security council (Triarc, perhaps?) where you & I and the third being rotational can veto anything. Plus a common defense treaty and to an extent, an offensive treaty. We would have defined influence groups though.

German Congress? Of course, we will have the most influence, right? And are we going to call it the Pan-German Congress, or German Congress, or Germanic Union, or...?

[St Georges Territory]

I guess I should be planning an invasion of Austria then? How bothersome.

That's a great idea, focus more money and manpower on Europe

[Federal States of Xathuecia]

I don't see it as a Confederation but rather a Congress (think UN) where everything is voted on, leaders can be elected (not the royalty so citizen politicians/nobility), and a form of a security council (Triarc, perhaps?) where you & I and the third being rotational can veto anything. Plus a common defense treaty and to an extent, an offensive treaty. We would have defined influence groups though.

German Congress? Of course, we will have the most influence, right? And are we going to call it the Pan-German Congress, or German Congress, or Germanic Union, or...?

Yes, we would dominate it as it would pretty much be our personal playground as the member states are either vassals or we have our relatives on the thrones. Now the name has yet to be decided. I like the sound of the Pan-German Congress but I was thinking maybe the Free German Congress. Mix them perhaps: The Free Pan-German Congress?