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Segmentia
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Postby Segmentia » Thu Apr 07, 2016 6:43 am

I shall try to get a post up before I go to work today.
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New Granadeseret
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Postby New Granadeseret » Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:39 am

Grand Dutch, I'd be very grateful if you'd remain as Prussia. I understand that frustrating feeling that goes along with being the target of an OOC-planned nerd circle, but abandoning Prussia to an NPC drift at this point is probably even worse. One thing you do need to remember that, if your army really is one with a state that just happens to be attached to it, said army can always go elsewhere until Brandenburg can be re-taken, since nobody is obligated to recognize annexations of your lands until a treaty is signed. Organizing the rest of the Germanic states and support elsewhere could be interesting for you.
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Federal States of Xathuecia
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:06 am

New Granadeseret wrote:Grand Dutch, I'd be very grateful if you'd remain as Prussia. I understand that frustrating feeling that goes along with being the target of an OOC-planned nerd circle, but abandoning Prussia to an NPC drift at this point is probably even worse. One thing you do need to remember that, if your army really is one with a state that just happens to be attached to it, said army can always go elsewhere until Brandenburg can be re-taken, since nobody is obligated to recognize annexations of your lands until a treaty is signed. Organizing the rest of the Germanic states and support elsewhere could be interesting for you.

Well with the formation of my future Free German Congress, you could represent yourself here liked an exiled state which would give our indirect support for you
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Kargintina
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Postby Kargintina » Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:08 am

Anything happen in the past 48 hours that should concern Japan?

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Federal States of Xathuecia
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:26 am

Kargintina wrote:Anything happen in the past 48 hours that should concern Japan?

Well Portugal and Britain are beginning to express their desires to start Asian colonies and ally Siam/conquer them.
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PLESSUR
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Postby PLESSUR » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:12 am

Trying to research the Kurds and their allegiances in the 19th century. Would Kurdish tribes on the Ottoman-Persian border be more supportive of Constantinople or Tehran?
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Veskesh wrote:Jeez if Turkey keeps having these coups they'll be kicked out of NATO and won't be able to join the EU....

The USA was in NATO when the American Civil War happened, but the Confederacy coup didn't cause it to be kicked out, did it?

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Cabana
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Postby Cabana » Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:20 am

Plessur wrote:Trying to research the Kurds and their allegiances in the 19th century. Would Kurdish tribes on the Ottoman-Persian border be more supportive of Constantinople or Tehran?

Probably Persia since ethnically they're very close.
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The Greater Dutch Republic
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Postby The Greater Dutch Republic » Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:34 am

Hmmmm... Persia not like Russia. Ottomans not like Russia. Swedes not like Russia. France and GB not like Austro-Russian Agression. Denmark friends with Austria. Hanover no like Denmark.

Me has plan.
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PLESSUR
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Postby PLESSUR » Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:50 am

The Greater Dutch Republic wrote:Hmmmm... Persia not like Russia. Ottomans not like Russia. Swedes not like Russia. France and GB not like Austro-Russian Agression. Denmark friends with Austria. Hanover no like Denmark.

Me has plan.


A Berlin-St Petersburg axis when Russia's European territorial ambitions almost entirely lie in Prussian territory? I don't think an early Reinsurance Treaty is a good idea.
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Veskesh wrote:Jeez if Turkey keeps having these coups they'll be kicked out of NATO and won't be able to join the EU....

The USA was in NATO when the American Civil War happened, but the Confederacy coup didn't cause it to be kicked out, did it?

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Federal States of Xathuecia
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:09 pm

The Greater Dutch Republic wrote:Hmmmm... Persia not like Russia. Ottomans not like Russia. Swedes not like Russia. France and GB not like Austro-Russian Agression. Denmark friends with Austria. Hanover no like Denmark.

Me has plan.

Sweden and I will probably not attack Russia (Austria maybe) This would be because Sweden is vulnerable against Russia and they need to secure a power against Denmark-UK's relations. As for I, I am trying to get my sister on the Russian Throne so no. Austria is up in the air for me and Sweden as I said before.
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New Granadeseret
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Postby New Granadeseret » Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:04 pm

Cabana wrote:
Plessur wrote:Trying to research the Kurds and their allegiances in the 19th century. Would Kurdish tribes on the Ottoman-Persian border be more supportive of Constantinople or Tehran?

Probably Persia since ethnically they're very close.


Ethnic nationalism means piddly squat to the Kurds during this period. They also have a great deal of autonomy within the Ottoman government (Pre-Tanzimât... though I'm thinking of going a different route with the Millet System reforms). In the religious column I have the advantage, since the Kurds are by and large Sunni Muslims, and what export portions of the economy they do have are tied to the Empire.

I see no reason why they should want a change in the Status Quo. Though, I can't claim to be unbiased in this issue.
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Russian people of america
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Postby Russian people of america » Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:41 pm

Expect that post in just a few more minutes, sorry for the wait :blush:


Edit: Reply's to Sweden, Hanover and Austria are up.
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Federal States of Xathuecia
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:24 pm

Russian people of america wrote:Expect that post in just a few more minutes, sorry for the wait :blush:


Edit: Reply's to Sweden, Hanover and Austria are up.

Your brother seems intent on freeing the serfs? Is that on purpose?

Well, Bavaria, you double posted it seemed. And I think that if you attack Prussia, I hope you are not attached too much to the HRE.
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Gadrana-Eshil
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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:33 pm

Stadenwick wrote:
Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
Denmark is also irrelevant compared to the kinship that Portugal, and the UK have shared for over four centuries.

I don't know about that, Portugal. If South Africa is mine, I practically own the Highway to Asia until Suez constructed, Plus we're gonna be neighbor later.

Segmentia wrote:
Britian is going to under take a very large surge of interest in Asia, starting with Japan.


They already ask for your attention, it won't be too hard to put them in your pocket later.


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Gadrana-Eshil
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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:36 pm

I had this amazing plan of what to do for stuff, and I think I'm just going to follow it x3

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PLESSUR
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Postby PLESSUR » Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:44 pm

New Granadeseret wrote:
Cabana wrote:Probably Persia since ethnically they're very close.


Ethnic nationalism means piddly squat to the Kurds during this period. They also have a great deal of autonomy within the Ottoman government (Pre-Tanzimât... though I'm thinking of going a different route with the Millet System reforms). In the religious column I have the advantage, since the Kurds are by and large Sunni Muslims, and what export portions of the economy they do have are tied to the Empire.

I see no reason why they should want a change in the Status Quo. Though, I can't claim to be unbiased in this issue.


I sort of agree with you after some research. So long as the Ottomans don't attempt too aggressive a political centralization that will threaten the autonomous Kurdish political systems of regional leaders and princes, the Kurds won't attempt any serious rebellion in Mesopotamia.

The Iranian Kurds are a bit more restless, but no serious rebellions happened IRL until the early 20th century. I think a more dangerous minority for Persia would be Azeri rebels - their refuge in Ottoman land provoked the Ottoman-Persian War of the 1820's. Also talking about Shia's, any disturbance to pilgrims in Karbala and the like in Mesopotamia may also provoke further tensions.
Anarcho-Saxony wrote:
Veskesh wrote:Jeez if Turkey keeps having these coups they'll be kicked out of NATO and won't be able to join the EU....

The USA was in NATO when the American Civil War happened, but the Confederacy coup didn't cause it to be kicked out, did it?

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Gadrana-Eshil
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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:57 pm

THE OTTOMANS NEED LOOOOOOVE!

*Snuggles the Ottomans.*

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Russian people of america
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Postby Russian people of america » Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:14 pm

Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:
Russian people of america wrote:Expect that post in just a few more minutes, sorry for the wait :blush:


Edit: Reply's to Sweden, Hanover and Austria are up.

Your brother seems intent on freeing the serfs? Is that on purpose?

Well, Bavaria, you double posted it seemed. And I think that if you attack Prussia, I hope you are not attached too much to the HRE.

Yes actually, it was. I'm glad you took the time to read my post. Eventually Alexander's gonna die and that's when that bit comes into play. Michael hold's a lot of sympathy for peasant's.
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Grothmogia
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Founded: Oct 15, 2015
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Postby Grothmogia » Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:20 pm

NS Name: Grothmogia
Nation Name:
Grand Duchy of Wurttemberg
Head of State: Frederick I
Head of Government: Frederick I
Head of Diplomacy: Minister Hinrich von Stuttgart
Territory (Vicky II Map type Preferred)
Territory
Flag:Flag
Demonym: Wurttemberger
Capital: Stuttgart
Currency: Gulden
State/Primary Religion: Protestantism

Government Form: Absolute Monarchy
Ideology: Expansionist
Foreign Policy: Wurttemberg sees France and Prussia as threats, Bavaria and the other South German states as rivals, and Austria as a possible friend, though all of this could change should something happen in any of these countries.
Domestic Policy: Wurttemberg's people and its government is mostly stable, though there is talk of a possible revolution. The Grand Duchy may run into more conflict should it expand or find itself in protracted conflict.
Civil Freedoms /10: 3
Political Freedoms /10: 1
Economic Freedoms /10: 8

Military Size:
-Army:
2 grenadier regiments
3 light infantry regiments
12 regular infantry regiments
2 hussar regiments
-Navy:
None, landlocked
-Elite Forces:
1 sharpshooter regiment

Military Description: (ie, quality of equipment, doctrine, etc.)
Wurttemberg has hurried to catch up with its neighbors in terms of military capacity. Its military was once like that of Bavaria, a mostly discarded relic of a past era. Recent events have forced the Army to be moved back to the forefront of government. The modernization continues, and it has developed a thriving arms industry, as the government is paranoid about sabotage.

Wurttemberg possesses a military that has mostly modernized with good equipment and officers, however the training of regular soldiers has lagged considerably behind. This has become the most important area of improvement for the Wurttemberger Army. The dream of Wurttemberg is to be able to surpass Bavaria, though that is unlikely.
Strengths and Weaknesses: (What is your military good at, and what is it bad at?)
Weakness:
The army is weaker than its neighbors
The regular troops are not well-trained with current weapons

Strength:
Elite sharpshooters
Rapidly mobilized reserves
Mobile forces

Short Description of Your Nation's Economy:
Wurttemberg is divided between rural agrarianism and urban areas. The main sources of wealth are
Short Description of Your Nation's Government:
The government is headed by the King who rules with absolute power, supported by a Cabinet. Most Cabinet members don't truly have a say in the matter, though they do attempt to turn the King's thoughts into coherent action.
Short History of the last 40 years:
Wurttemberg has been the stomping ground of many great powers, lying on the doorstep to Germany from France and vice versa. This has contributed to a paranoia amongst the people of this land, ever watchful for another war. The Wurttembergers sided against Prussia in the Seven Year's War, and has subsequently watched her rise with terror and admiration.
Population of entire empire: 500,000

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Gadrana-Eshil
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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:24 pm

I need more allies. Perhaps Denmark, or France ^_^

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Federal States of Xathuecia
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:24 pm

Grothmogia wrote:NS Name: Grothmogia
Nation Name:
Grand Duchy of Wurttemberg
Head of State: Frederick I
Head of Government: Frederick I
Head of Diplomacy: Minister Hinrich von Stuttgart
Territory (Vicky II Map type Preferred)
Territory
Flag:Flag
Demonym: Wurttemberger
Capital: Stuttgart
Currency: Gulden
State/Primary Religion: Protestantism

Government Form: Absolute Monarchy
Ideology: Expansionist
Foreign Policy: Wurttemberg sees France and Prussia as threats, Bavaria and the other South German states as rivals, and Austria as a possible friend, though all of this could change should something happen in any of these countries.
Domestic Policy: Wurttemberg's people and its government is mostly stable, though there is talk of a possible revolution. The Grand Duchy may run into more conflict should it expand or find itself in protracted conflict.
Civil Freedoms /10: 3
Political Freedoms /10: 1
Economic Freedoms /10: 8

Military Size:
-Army:
2 grenadier regiments
3 light infantry regiments
12 regular infantry regiments
2 hussar regiments
-Navy:
None, landlocked
-Elite Forces:
1 sharpshooter regiment

Military Description: (ie, quality of equipment, doctrine, etc.)
Wurttemberg has hurried to catch up with its neighbors in terms of military capacity. Its military was once like that of Bavaria, a mostly discarded relic of a past era. Recent events have forced the Army to be moved back to the forefront of government. The modernization continues, and it has developed a thriving arms industry, as the government is paranoid about sabotage.

Wurttemberg possesses a military that has mostly modernized with good equipment and officers, however the training of regular soldiers has lagged considerably behind. This has become the most important area of improvement for the Wurttemberger Army. The dream of Wurttemberg is to be able to surpass Bavaria, though that is unlikely.
Strengths and Weaknesses: (What is your military good at, and what is it bad at?)
Weakness:
The army is weaker than its neighbors
The regular troops are not well-trained with current weapons

Strength:
Elite sharpshooters
Rapidly mobilized reserves
Mobile forces

Short Description of Your Nation's Economy:
Wurttemberg is divided between rural agrarianism and urban areas. The main sources of wealth are
Short Description of Your Nation's Government:
The government is headed by the King who rules with absolute power, supported by a Cabinet. Most Cabinet members don't truly have a say in the matter, though they do attempt to turn the King's thoughts into coherent action.
Short History of the last 40 years:
Wurttemberg has been the stomping ground of many great powers, lying on the doorstep to Germany from France and vice versa. This has contributed to a paranoia amongst the people of this land, ever watchful for another war. The Wurttembergers sided against Prussia in the Seven Year's War, and has subsequently watched her rise with terror and admiration.
Population of entire empire: 500,000

Bavaria is currently at war with you (or has already begun to prepare at least) so this may be a bit dangerous of a nation.
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Franco-Iberie
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Postby Franco-Iberie » Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:28 pm

Mein gott, so many posts.

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Federal States of Xathuecia
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:29 pm

Gadrana-Eshil wrote:I need more allies. Perhaps Denmark, or France ^_^

Don't ally Denmark, they are potential colonial completion. I'd ally France as they could help cement your power in Europe and your main ally of the UK has good relations with them as well.
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Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi
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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:31 pm

I am currently gathering intelligence on Wurttemberger forces, double post was a glitch in the system. The ultimatum has not yet been sent, and there are border clashes.

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Grothmogia
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Founded: Oct 15, 2015
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Postby Grothmogia » Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:43 pm

Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:
Grothmogia wrote:NS Name: Grothmogia
Nation Name:
Grand Duchy of Wurttemberg
Head of State: Frederick I
Head of Government: Frederick I
Head of Diplomacy: Minister Hinrich von Stuttgart
Territory (Vicky II Map type Preferred)
Territory
Flag:Flag
Demonym: Wurttemberger
Capital: Stuttgart
Currency: Gulden
State/Primary Religion: Protestantism

Government Form: Absolute Monarchy
Ideology: Expansionist
Foreign Policy: Wurttemberg sees France and Prussia as threats, Bavaria and the other South German states as rivals, and Austria as a possible friend, though all of this could change should something happen in any of these countries.
Domestic Policy: Wurttemberg's people and its government is mostly stable, though there is talk of a possible revolution. The Grand Duchy may run into more conflict should it expand or find itself in protracted conflict.
Civil Freedoms /10: 3
Political Freedoms /10: 1
Economic Freedoms /10: 8

Military Size:
-Army:
2 grenadier regiments
3 light infantry regiments
12 regular infantry regiments
2 hussar regiments
-Navy:
None, landlocked
-Elite Forces:
1 sharpshooter regiment

Military Description: (ie, quality of equipment, doctrine, etc.)
Wurttemberg has hurried to catch up with its neighbors in terms of military capacity. Its military was once like that of Bavaria, a mostly discarded relic of a past era. Recent events have forced the Army to be moved back to the forefront of government. The modernization continues, and it has developed a thriving arms industry, as the government is paranoid about sabotage.

Wurttemberg possesses a military that has mostly modernized with good equipment and officers, however the training of regular soldiers has lagged considerably behind. This has become the most important area of improvement for the Wurttemberger Army. The dream of Wurttemberg is to be able to surpass Bavaria, though that is unlikely.
Strengths and Weaknesses: (What is your military good at, and what is it bad at?)
Weakness:
The army is weaker than its neighbors
The regular troops are not well-trained with current weapons

Strength:
Elite sharpshooters
Rapidly mobilized reserves
Mobile forces

Short Description of Your Nation's Economy:
Wurttemberg is divided between rural agrarianism and urban areas. The main sources of wealth are
Short Description of Your Nation's Government:
The government is headed by the King who rules with absolute power, supported by a Cabinet. Most Cabinet members don't truly have a say in the matter, though they do attempt to turn the King's thoughts into coherent action.
Short History of the last 40 years:
Wurttemberg has been the stomping ground of many great powers, lying on the doorstep to Germany from France and vice versa. This has contributed to a paranoia amongst the people of this land, ever watchful for another war. The Wurttembergers sided against Prussia in the Seven Year's War, and has subsequently watched her rise with terror and admiration.
Population of entire empire: 500,000

Bavaria is currently at war with you (or has already begun to prepare at least) so this may be a bit dangerous of a nation.


I did not notice. Any good nations left? Otherwise, we will go down swinging.

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