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Valloria
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Postby Valloria » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:33 pm

New Granadeseret wrote:
Valloria wrote:I'm in no need of advice on how to conduct my foreign policy. I understand how the game is played, and I won't be convinced to surrender a powerful network of alliances just because you imply Austria is not living up to its full potential. I can assure you that my decisions are more complex than "what can I accomplish with no friends in the international community."


I phrased that poorly, my apologies. I'm just pointing out that set-up isn't the sort of thing that would make the world fear Austria's might, as you claimed it would. The odds against Prussia are so heavily stacked it'd be a miracle if they managed to win.

"The lion does not concern itself with the opinions of the sheep."
Also, I think it is a feat in itself that Austria would be able to unite Russia, Bavaria, Denmark-Norway, and itself into one alliance against another power. These alliances and the territorial changes would show Austria's allies that it means to keep its promises and will most definitely scare the living shit out of anyone who dares attack me. It would take the rest of Europe to defeat a joint Austro-Russo-Danish/Norwegian-Bavarian alliance on land.
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Valloria wrote:Sure, however I cannot guarantee that the Netherlands will get involved in the war, and I do not plan to directly declare war on the Dutch Republic. However, if another party as part of my alliance were to do so, I could not stop a few Austrian regiments from helping if they were needed...

As far as I know, Netherland is actually only allied to Prussia. So perhaps, me and Bavaria should declare on them. Also, will this alliance develop to a defensive pact for both of us or just one time thing?

This treaty implies a defensive pact. Any and all alliances I make or already have made are implied to be permanent defensive alliances with choice offensive elements (like the joint invasion of Prussia) unless explicitly stated as the opposite.
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Sanabel
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Postby Sanabel » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:35 pm

I'm working on an IC post a little bit each day. Should be up sometime soon in the coming days.

It's just taking a lot of effort to figure out exactly how to go about internal politics.
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Segmentia
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Postby Segmentia » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:37 pm

Well, I can't promise that Britian will remain neutral with so much territory changing hands. It would utterly shatter the status quo, and that is not something Britian wants.
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Gadrana-Eshil
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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:44 pm

I should start work on my next IC post, and finish it tomorrow.

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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:50 pm

I need the OP to respond to my TG, and I also need a response from the OP ICly because I need to know how everything goes. So does everyone else, tho, with that events system I asked about :c I just need them because each post I do something with some stuff I can't really influence, such as how much time it takes, any losses, any accidents, how the nation takes it, et cetera.

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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:51 pm

Gadrana-Eshil wrote:I need the OP to respond to my TG, and I also need a response from the OP ICly because I need to know how everything goes. So does everyone else, tho, with that events system I asked about :c I just need them because each post I do something with some stuff I can't really influence, such as how much time it takes, any losses, any accidents, how the nation takes it, et cetera.

Huh?
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Sanabel
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Postby Sanabel » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:52 pm

Gadrana-Eshil wrote:I need the OP to respond to my TG, and I also need a response from the OP ICly because I need to know how everything goes. So does everyone else, tho, with that events system I asked about :c I just need them because each post I do something with some stuff I can't really influence, such as how much time it takes, any losses, any accidents, how the nation takes it, et cetera.

Or you could be like everyone else and Rp out your own events without the OP holding your hand.
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Gadrana-Eshil
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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:55 pm

Sanabel wrote:
Gadrana-Eshil wrote:I need the OP to respond to my TG, and I also need a response from the OP ICly because I need to know how everything goes. So does everyone else, tho, with that events system I asked about :c I just need them because each post I do something with some stuff I can't really influence, such as how much time it takes, any losses, any accidents, how the nation takes it, et cetera.

Or you could be like everyone else and Rp out your own events without the OP holding your hand.


But I could god-mod. And that's how people quickly grow bored with nations, and national events. They know exactly what is going to happen >_> I don't want to be in complete control of everything to do with my nation, because, sometimes, people do stuff that would cause riots, and the general populace is like "hail the new queen!" But... yeah, sure, whatever, just say it's holding my hand when not only would it stop any and all possible godmodding, but it'd add flavor, and keep me from becoming bored out of my mind since I control every little detail, and every little action, can BS all my losses, et cetera :/

Oh, and what are rules regarding expansion? How quickly is territory taken, et cetera, et cetera?

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:59 pm

Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Or you could be like everyone else and Rp out your own events without the OP holding your hand.


But I could god-mod. And that's how people quickly grow bored with nations, and national events. They know exactly what is going to happen >_> I don't want to be in complete control of everything to do with my nation, because, sometimes, people do stuff that would cause riots, and the general populace is like "hail the new queen!" But... yeah, sure, whatever, just say it's holding my hand when not only would it stop any and all possible godmodding, but it'd add flavor, and keep me from becoming bored out of my mind since I control every little detail, and every little action, can BS all my losses, et cetera :/

Oh, and what are rules regarding expansion? How quickly is territory taken, et cetera, et cetera?

I could give you a few events, if you want to. At least some ideas to work with.
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New Granadeseret
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Postby New Granadeseret » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:00 pm

Gadrana-Eshil wrote:I need the OP to respond to my TG, and I also need a response from the OP ICly because I need to know how everything goes. So does everyone else, tho, with that events system I asked about :c I just need them because each post I do something with some stuff I can't really influence, such as how much time it takes, any losses, any accidents, how the nation takes it, et cetera.


The event system is just occasional for random and/or based on drastic shifts on the ground based on player actions. For example, say the Qing tried to shut down the Opium trade. There might be an event like "Western Ships Seized!" (Which basically gives Europeans the perfect excuse to attack Chinese ports). I don't have time to do the highly detailed system you propose. If I start triggering random events without some kind of control, people might accuse me of being biased/unfair. (For example, I was thinking at the start of this thread that if Russian/Austrian/Prussian understanding broke down the Poles might stage another uprising in the chaos, but now that'd look like I'm just trying to weak the Russo-Austrian alliance)

I would love to have this more a more inter-active experience... but I'm not sure how to do it without the situation dissolving into chaos.
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Sanabel
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Postby Sanabel » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:01 pm

Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Or you could be like everyone else and Rp out your own events without the OP holding your hand.


But I could god-mod. And that's how people quickly grow bored with nations, and national events. They know exactly what is going to happen >_> I don't want to be in complete control of everything to do with my nation, because, sometimes, people do stuff that would cause riots, and the general populace is like "hail the new queen!" But... yeah, sure, whatever, just say it's holding my hand when not only would it stop any and all possible godmodding, but it'd add flavor, and keep me from becoming bored out of my mind since I control every little detail, and every little action, can BS all my losses, et cetera :/

Oh, and what are rules regarding expansion? How quickly is territory taken, et cetera, et cetera?

Your boredom isn't the Op's problem though. Everyone else seems to manage just fine...and rping is more about writing and fleshing out a plot, a story, than it is a playing a game and having mindless expansion. If you want mindless expansion, then play Risk.
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Gadrana-Eshil
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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:03 pm

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:
Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
But I could god-mod. And that's how people quickly grow bored with nations, and national events. They know exactly what is going to happen >_> I don't want to be in complete control of everything to do with my nation, because, sometimes, people do stuff that would cause riots, and the general populace is like "hail the new queen!" But... yeah, sure, whatever, just say it's holding my hand when not only would it stop any and all possible godmodding, but it'd add flavor, and keep me from becoming bored out of my mind since I control every little detail, and every little action, can BS all my losses, et cetera :/

Oh, and what are rules regarding expansion? How quickly is territory taken, et cetera, et cetera?

I could give you a few events, if you want to. At least some ideas to work with.


;-;

First I get sad....

Then...

I GET MAD!!!

:evil:

Erm, I mean. Uhm, sure. I really kind of get bored when it turns into the same old "expand here, conquer there, move on" in rapid motion, and when I do something great for the populace I don't get to read someone else's writing, and experience that joy you feel when the general populace is like "good job, you're just as good as mom *is slapped* OWIE! MA THAT HURT!"... sooo, events are good :3

*Huggles.*

Sanabel wrote:
Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
But I could god-mod. And that's how people quickly grow bored with nations, and national events. They know exactly what is going to happen >_> I don't want to be in complete control of everything to do with my nation, because, sometimes, people do stuff that would cause riots, and the general populace is like "hail the new queen!" But... yeah, sure, whatever, just say it's holding my hand when not only would it stop any and all possible godmodding, but it'd add flavor, and keep me from becoming bored out of my mind since I control every little detail, and every little action, can BS all my losses, et cetera :/

Oh, and what are rules regarding expansion? How quickly is territory taken, et cetera, et cetera?

Your boredom isn't the Op's problem though. Everyone else seems to manage just fine...and rping is more about writing and fleshing out a plot, a story, than it is a playing a game and having mindless expansion. If you want mindless expansion, then play Risk.


I don't want mindless expansion. I want an experience. I not only want to act, I want to react instead of acting every part over, and over again. It's boring. I need something fun :/

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Stadenwick
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Postby Stadenwick » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:05 pm

Sanabel wrote:
Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
But I could god-mod. And that's how people quickly grow bored with nations, and national events. They know exactly what is going to happen >_> I don't want to be in complete control of everything to do with my nation, because, sometimes, people do stuff that would cause riots, and the general populace is like "hail the new queen!" But... yeah, sure, whatever, just say it's holding my hand when not only would it stop any and all possible godmodding, but it'd add flavor, and keep me from becoming bored out of my mind since I control every little detail, and every little action, can BS all my losses, et cetera :/

Oh, and what are rules regarding expansion? How quickly is territory taken, et cetera, et cetera?

Your boredom isn't the Op's problem though. Everyone else seems to manage just fine...and rping is more about writing and fleshing out a plot, a story, than it is a playing a game and having mindless expansion. If you want mindless expansion, then play Risk.

Or Victoria 2, you know, seems fitting with the current RP we're playing now.
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Something in that direction, with some anti-Pope stuff hidden in since he claims to be a new Ecumenical Patriarch.

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Postby Sanabel » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:07 pm

Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:I could give you a few events, if you want to. At least some ideas to work with.


;-;

First I get sad....

Then...

I GET MAD!!!

:evil:

Erm, I mean. Uhm, sure. I really kind of get bored when it turns into the same old "expand here, conquer there, move on" in rapid motion, and when I do something great for the populace I don't get to read someone else's writing, and experience that joy you feel when the general populace is like "good job, you're just as good as mom *is slapped* OWIE! MA THAT HURT!"... sooo, events are good :3

*Huggles.*

Sanabel wrote:Your boredom isn't the Op's problem though. Everyone else seems to manage just fine...and rping is more about writing and fleshing out a plot, a story, than it is a playing a game and having mindless expansion. If you want mindless expansion, then play Risk.


I don't want mindless expansion. I want an experience. I not only want to act, I want to react instead of acting every part over, and over again. It's boring. I need something fun :/

I could argue that your expansion in Africa is mindless expansion...

So in order to have fun, you need someone to tell you what logically happens after your every move?
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Postby Russian people of america » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:07 pm

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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:08 pm

Stadenwick wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Your boredom isn't the Op's problem though. Everyone else seems to manage just fine...and rping is more about writing and fleshing out a plot, a story, than it is a playing a game and having mindless expansion. If you want mindless expansion, then play Risk.

Or Victoria 2, you know, seems fitting with the current RP we're playing now.


*Claps for comparison of this RP to the mindless expansion of Victoria 2.* :clap:

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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:09 pm

Sanabel wrote:
Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
;-;

First I get sad....

Then...

I GET MAD!!!

:evil:

Erm, I mean. Uhm, sure. I really kind of get bored when it turns into the same old "expand here, conquer there, move on" in rapid motion, and when I do something great for the populace I don't get to read someone else's writing, and experience that joy you feel when the general populace is like "good job, you're just as good as mom *is slapped* OWIE! MA THAT HURT!"... sooo, events are good :3

*Huggles.*



I don't want mindless expansion. I want an experience. I not only want to act, I want to react instead of acting every part over, and over again. It's boring. I need something fun :/

I could argue that your expansion in Africa is mindless expansion...

So in order to have fun, you need someone to tell you what logically happens after your every move?


I could argue you're the most annoyingly difficult person on Earth, and probably should do that before you keep on trying to argue with me over my opinion, and how I feel, via completely invalid points that ignore every valid point I make >_>
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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:10 pm

Whenever I enter my messages, it's removing certain suffixes, and, sometimes, entire words >_> Or maybe I'm just so tired that I think I'm typing these things out, and I'm not.

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Postby Sanabel » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:15 pm

Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
Sanabel wrote:I could argue that your expansion in Africa is mindless expansion...

So in order to have fun, you need someone to tell you what logically happens after your every move?


I could argue you're the most annoyingly difficult person on Earth, and probably should do that before you keep on trying to argue with me over my opinion, and how I feel, via completely invalid points that ignore every valid point I make >_>

I'm sorry. I dont really care about feelings. Mine, yours, or anyone's. I care about reason.

Ah yes, my points are invalid. I really like your 'valid' points. The feelings one really hit home, and the fact you might get bored was a real gut-wrencher. Gg.
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Stadenwick
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Postby Stadenwick » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:16 pm

Sanabel wrote:
Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
I could argue you're the most annoyingly difficult person on Earth, and probably should do that before you keep on trying to argue with me over my opinion, and how I feel, via completely invalid points that ignore every valid point I make >_>

I'm sorry. I dont really care about feelings.


Your flag make this sentence ten times better than it should.
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Stadenwick wrote:Did you just call me wicky?

Aye.

So yeah, feel free to call me that from now on.
Tracian Empire wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:Basically, Stadenwick is RPing as the Russian, Orthodox version of Mormonism and Deseret.

Something in that direction, with some anti-Pope stuff hidden in since he claims to be a new Ecumenical Patriarch.

That's why I don't like heresies. They need to be burned.
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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:17 pm

Sanabel wrote:
Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
I could argue you're the most annoyingly difficult person on Earth, and probably should do that before you keep on trying to argue with me over my opinion, and how I feel, via completely invalid points that ignore every valid point I make >_>

I'm sorry. I dont really care about feelings. Mine, yours, or anyone's. I care about reason.

Ah yes, my points are invalid. I really like your 'valid' points. The feelings one really hit home, and the fact you might get bored was a real gut-wrencher. Gg.


You really are quite vividly asinine, as well as completely... actually, I'm too tired to care about some child's pseudo-intellectual snark. Blocked.
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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:19 pm

The time that someone completely disregards another person, or anything about them, as irrelevant, is the moment that this someone in question becomes irrelevant, for the world will block out their ignorance like heavy clouds block out a dim moon on a stormy night.
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Postby Sanabel » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:21 pm

Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
Sanabel wrote:I'm sorry. I dont really care about feelings. Mine, yours, or anyone's. I care about reason.

Ah yes, my points are invalid. I really like your 'valid' points. The feelings one really hit home, and the fact you might get bored was a real gut-wrencher. Gg.


You really are quite vividly asinine, as well as completely... actually, I'm too tired to care about some child's pseudo-intellectual snark. Blocked.

Thank God.
Stadenwick wrote:
Sanabel wrote:I'm sorry. I dont really care about feelings.


Your flag make this sentence ten times better than it should.

I've slayed...but at what cost?
Gadrana-Eshil wrote:The time that someone completely disregards another person, or anything about them, as irrelevant, is the moment that this someone in question becomes irrelevant, for the world will block out their ignorance like heavy clouds block out a dim moon on a stormy night.

I think everyone cares a lot about this. So that's a really good move for vengeance. Once more, GG.
The interregnum is over- I am once again the OP of the Land of the Free RP


I am a Radical Centro-Transhumanist and a National Globalist.
If you don't have a high enough IQ to know what those are, then we can't be friends.

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Postby Stadenwick » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:25 pm

Sanabel wrote:
Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
You really are quite vividly asinine, as well as completely... actually, I'm too tired to care about some child's pseudo-intellectual snark. Blocked.

Thank God.
Stadenwick wrote:
Your flag make this sentence ten times better than it should.

I've slayed...but at what cost?
Gadrana-Eshil wrote:The time that someone completely disregards another person, or anything about them, as irrelevant, is the moment that this someone in question becomes irrelevant, for the world will block out their ignorance like heavy clouds block out a dim moon on a stormy night.

I think everyone cares a lot about this. So that's a really good move for vengeance. Once more, GG.

From the picture? Probably your soul :lol:
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Stadenwick wrote:Did you just call me wicky?

Aye.

So yeah, feel free to call me that from now on.
Tracian Empire wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:Basically, Stadenwick is RPing as the Russian, Orthodox version of Mormonism and Deseret.

Something in that direction, with some anti-Pope stuff hidden in since he claims to be a new Ecumenical Patriarch.

That's why I don't like heresies. They need to be burned.
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Postby Sanabel » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:26 pm

Stadenwick wrote:
Sanabel wrote:Thank God.

I've slayed...but at what cost?

I think everyone cares a lot about this. So that's a really good move for vengeance. Once more, GG.

From the picture? Probably your soul :lol:

That's the hard truth, my friend. The bitter, cold truth.
The interregnum is over- I am once again the OP of the Land of the Free RP


I am a Radical Centro-Transhumanist and a National Globalist.
If you don't have a high enough IQ to know what those are, then we can't be friends.

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