The Bonaparte Absence (AH RP/Reboot/OOC)

[New Granadeseret]

The issue I have with the Austrian proposal regarding Rumelia is that the only land I would actually want to take are part of their Empire.

That's negotiable. Tell me what territory you want, and it's yours.

Peddling off large chunks of your own land for the military support of a city-state (and a merchant Republic at that!) would make you a laughing stock among the international community and internal factions alike.

[Federal States of Xathuecia]

The Shah's ex-concubine

Eh, i don't think it would work honestly. Considering the religious and racial differences between the two.

@Either is fine, though if it happened Retroactively i'd have to cut some of my post out. Then again it could give it a bit more history, so it's your choice.

IC it is - Caroline didn’t marry by the way as she has been a member of Prince Fredrick’s court and marrying would have stripped her of that ability as it would go to her husband. Just recently did she leave her post so Catharina could join.

[PLESSUR]

The Shah's ex-concubine

Eh, i don't think it would work honestly. Considering the religious and racial differences between the two.

@Either is fine, though if it happened Retroactively i'd have to cut some of my post out. Then again it could give it a bit more history, so it's your choice.

I was kidding. Pity my sarcasm didn't seep through

[Russian people of america]

I might have some unmarried relatives laying around that Victoria can have married off.

I'd be interested, I'm tossing around a sub-plot in my head for down the road. It could be useful to have relation's in Britain.

[Russian people of america]

Eh, i don't think it would work honestly. Considering the religious and racial differences between the two.

@Either is fine, though if it happened Retroactively i'd have to cut some of my post out. Then again it could give it a bit more history, so it's your choice.

I was kidding. Pity my sarcasm didn't seep through

Yes, quite a pity

[Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi]

Austria, Bavaria wants a good port in the Netherlands.

[Sanabel]

That's negotiable. Tell me what territory you want, and it's yours.

Peddling off large chunks of your own land for the military support of a city-state (and a merchant Republic at that!) would make you a laughing stock among the international community and internal factions alike.

Ssshshshshssshh

It'll be fine.

[Valloria]

If you have any desire to convert some of your merchantmen to Warships or fortify your cities for this endeavor, His Sacred and Imperial Majesty would be more then willing to provide you with the prerequisite cannons. We might not be close to British industrial potential, but if there is one thing the Ottoman craftsmanship is second to none in, its the quality and quantity of our big guns.

That would be very helpful.

That's negotiable. Tell me what territory you want, and it's yours.

Probably would just be the Kingdom of Dalmatia we would want.

If you stay on Austria's side (and follow the strict agreements in my proposed alliance, edited according to your wishes to include the Kingdom of Dalmatia), you will be granted the three provinces of the Kingdom of Dalmatia, as well as one province of your choice in Greece.

Austria, Bavaria wants a good port in the Netherlands.

The Dutch and the Prussians look to be allied. Once the war starts, you have already been guaranteed the Prussian territories near the Netherlands, and if you'd like, I can include the southern half of the Dutch province of Gelderland and the towns of Den Oever, Den Helder, and Stavoren, as well as the island of Texel. I'd rather not completely destroy the Dutch Republic, as I'm rather fond of them.

Peddling off large chunks of your own land for the military support of a city-state (and a merchant Republic at that!) would make you a laughing stock among the international community and internal factions alike.

Ssshshshshssshh

It'll be fine.

Ragusa is an important port for vendors of Eastern goods, and Austria is yet to be connected to its western European counterparts' colonies. Giving a small and relatively underpopulated portion of my territory to a state I could destroy on a whim is not something I find very concerning. The international community should fear the power of Austria, as soon I will bring Prussia to its knees.

Not that you should worry, Sanabel. I don't plan to destroy you.

[Sanabel]

That would be very helpful.

Probably would just be the Kingdom of Dalmatia we would want.

If you stay on Austria's side (and follow the strict agreements in my proposed alliance, edited according to your wishes to include the Kingdom of Dalmatia), you will be granted the three provinces of the Kingdom of Dalmatia, as well as one province of your choice in Greece.

Austria, Bavaria wants a good port in the Netherlands.

The Dutch and the Prussians look to be allied. Once the war starts, you have already been guaranteed the Prussian territories near the Netherlands, and if you'd like, I can include the southern half of the Dutch province of Gelderland and the towns of Den Oever, Den Helder, and Stavoren, as well as the island of Texel. I'd rather not completely destroy the Dutch Republic, as I'm rather fond of them.

Ssshshshshssshh

It'll be fine.

Ragusa is an important port for vendors of Eastern goods, and Austria is yet to be connected to its western European counterparts' colonies. Giving a small and relatively underpopulated portion of my territory to a state I could destroy on a whim is not something I find very concerning. The international community should fear the power of Austria, as soon I will bring Prussia to its knees.

Not that you should worry, Sanabel. I don't plan to destroy you.

I'm still not sure. I'll need to research to see how this impacts my trade.

[Federal States of Xathuecia]

I responded and sent letters to Russia & Prussia in the IC

[New Granadeseret]

That would be very helpful.

Probably would just be the Kingdom of Dalmatia we would want.

If you stay on Austria's side (and follow the strict agreements in my proposed alliance, edited according to your wishes to include the Kingdom of Dalmatia), you will be granted the three provinces of the Kingdom of Dalmatia, as well as one province of your choice in Greece.

Austria, Bavaria wants a good port in the Netherlands.

The Dutch and the Prussians look to be allied. Once the war starts, you have already been guaranteed the Prussian territories near the Netherlands, and if you'd like, I can include the southern half of the Dutch province of Gelderland and the towns of Den Oever, Den Helder, and Stavoren, as well as the island of Texel. I'd rather not completely destroy the Dutch Republic, as I'm rather fond of them.

Ssshshshshssshh

It'll be fine.

Ragusa is an important port for vendors of Eastern goods, and Austria is yet to be connected to its western European counterparts' colonies. Giving a small and relatively underpopulated portion of my territory to a state I could destroy on a whim is not something I find very concerning. The international community should fear the power of Austria, as soon I will bring Prussia to its knees.

Not that you should worry, Sanabel. I don't plan to destroy you.

"Yes! We're so powerful, we only needed to get the help of the largest country in Europe, the Bully of Germany, and Denmark-Norway to win against a country with less then half our population! FEAR US!"

Beat them alone, it'd look impressive.

[Segmentia]

More people wanting warm water ports. Britian is not a fan of this.

[Federal States of Xathuecia]

More people wanting warm water ports. Britian is not a fan of this.

We are still friends right?

[Segmentia]

More people wanting warm water ports. Britian is not a fan of this.

We are still friends right?

I don't see why not.

[Federal States of Xathuecia]

We are still friends right?

I don't see why not.

Good the Brits are our closest ally other than the Swedes

[Valloria]

If you stay on Austria's side (and follow the strict agreements in my proposed alliance, edited according to your wishes to include the Kingdom of Dalmatia), you will be granted the three provinces of the Kingdom of Dalmatia, as well as one province of your choice in Greece.


The Dutch and the Prussians look to be allied. Once the war starts, you have already been guaranteed the Prussian territories near the Netherlands, and if you'd like, I can include the southern half of the Dutch province of Gelderland and the towns of Den Oever, Den Helder, and Stavoren, as well as the island of Texel. I'd rather not completely destroy the Dutch Republic, as I'm rather fond of them.


Ragusa is an important port for vendors of Eastern goods, and Austria is yet to be connected to its western European counterparts' colonies. Giving a small and relatively underpopulated portion of my territory to a state I could destroy on a whim is not something I find very concerning. The international community should fear the power of Austria, as soon I will bring Prussia to its knees.

Not that you should worry, Sanabel. I don't plan to destroy you.

"Yes! We're so powerful, we only needed to get the help of the largest country in Europe, the Bully of Germany, and Denmark-Norway to win against a country with less then half our population! FEAR US!"

Beat them alone, it'd look impressive.

I'm in no need of advice on how to conduct my foreign policy. I understand how the game is played, and I won't be convinced to surrender a powerful network of alliances just because you imply Austria is not living up to its full potential. I can assure you that my decisions are more complex than "what can I accomplish with no friends in the international community."

[Gadrana-Eshil]

I don't see why not.

Good the Brits are our closest ally other than the Swedes

That's means you ish fwiend... whoever you ish. ((What nation are you?))

[Stadenwick]

"Yes! We're so powerful, we only needed to get the help of the largest country in Europe, the Bully of Germany, and Denmark-Norway to win against a country with less then half our population! FEAR US!"

Beat them alone, it'd look impressive.

I'm in no need of advice on how to conduct my foreign policy. I understand how the game is played, and I won't be convinced to surrender a powerful network of alliances just because you imply Austria is not living up to its full potential. I can assure you that my decisions are more complex than "what can I accomplish with no friends in the international community."

Austria, since Bavaria want Netherland. Its okay if I switch my spoils of war to Dutch south africa right? Except Danzig, i want Danzig.

[Federal States of Xathuecia]

Good the Brits are our closest ally other than the Swedes

That's means you ish fwiend... whoever you ish. ((What nation are you?))

Hanover

[Ficiscia]

Just a short question - what's Gustav's title in Hannover? Prince of Hannover? BTW, if it's important to you, Xath: Catharina is, in Sweden, known as Princess Catharina of Sweden, Duchess of Västergötland. Place Hannoveran titles around that wherever you want I don't know what would be the historically correct way. I just stole the one they use for Crown Princess Victoria, as that was easiest to find out. And historically, Gustav would have a daughter by now, but as her mother is some Badish princess IRL, we can just forget about that if you wanna. I'm not sure if a Hannover war of succession is a good thing. (Actually I am kinda sure it's not.)

BTW, two things regarding, in some way, family ties: Are there any other reigning or important members of House Holstein-Gottorp around? Romanov is more or less another branch of our royal family, no? And does anyone have a Swedish coat of arms picture with the shield of the Holstein-Gottorp? The one I use atm is the current Bernadotte version, I couldn't find the one that'd be used in our timeline. It's not really important, but if you have one laying around...

IC post up, btw. Time to kill Gustav IV. Adolf soon.

[Valloria]

I'm in no need of advice on how to conduct my foreign policy. I understand how the game is played, and I won't be convinced to surrender a powerful network of alliances just because you imply Austria is not living up to its full potential. I can assure you that my decisions are more complex than "what can I accomplish with no friends in the international community."

Austria, since Bavaria want Netherland. Its okay if I switch my spoils of war to Dutch south africa right? Except Danzig, i want Danzig.

Sure, however I cannot guarantee that the Netherlands will get involved in the war, and I do not plan to directly declare war on the Dutch Republic. However, if another party as part of my alliance were to do so, I could not stop a few Austrian regiments from helping if they were needed...

[New Granadeseret]

"Yes! We're so powerful, we only needed to get the help of the largest country in Europe, the Bully of Germany, and Denmark-Norway to win against a country with less then half our population! FEAR US!"

Beat them alone, it'd look impressive.

I'm in no need of advice on how to conduct my foreign policy. I understand how the game is played, and I won't be convinced to surrender a powerful network of alliances just because you imply Austria is not living up to its full potential. I can assure you that my decisions are more complex than "what can I accomplish with no friends in the international community."

I phrased that poorly, my apologies. I'm just pointing out that set-up isn't the sort of thing that would make the world fear Austria's might, as you claimed it would. The odds against Prussia are so heavily stacked it'd be a miracle if they managed to win.

[Stadenwick]

Austria, since Bavaria want Netherland. Its okay if I switch my spoils of war to Dutch south africa right? Except Danzig, i want Danzig.

Sure, however I cannot guarantee that the Netherlands will get involved in the war, and I do not plan to directly declare war on the Dutch Republic. However, if another party as part of my alliance were to do so, I could not stop a few Austrian regiments from helping if they were needed...

As far as I know, Netherland is actually only allied to Prussia. So perhaps, me and Bavaria should declare on them. Also, will this alliance develop to a defensive pact for both of us or just one time thing?

[Federal States of Xathuecia]

Just a short question - what's Gustav's title in Hannover? Prince of Hannover? BTW, if it's important to you, Xath: Catharina is, in Sweden, known as Princess Catharina of Sweden, Duchess of Västergötland. Place Hannoveran titles around that wherever you want I don't know what would be the historically correct way. I just stole the one they use for Crown Princess Victoria, as that was easiest to find out. And historically, Gustav would have a daughter by now, but as her mother is some Badish princess IRL, we can just forget about that if you wanna. I'm not sure if a Hannover war of succession is a good thing. (Actually I am kinda sure it's not.)

BTW, two things regarding, in some way, family ties: Are there any other reigning or important members of House Holstein-Gottorp around? Romanov is more or less another branch of our royal family, no? And does anyone have a Swedish coat of arms picture with the shield of the Holstein-Gottorp? The one I use atm is the current Bernadotte version, I couldn't find the one that'd be used in our timeline. It's not really important, but if you have one laying around...

IC post up, btw. Time to kill Gustav IV. Adolf soon.

His title is officially: Crown Prince Gustav of Sweden, Duke of Munster and of Bremen

[Gadrana-Eshil]

Gran, I sent you a TG. Why you no answer it? 'Tis a very important TG!