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by Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:47 am
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:48 am
Gadrana-Eshil wrote:Segmentia wrote:I'm not the OP, so I don't have the authority to say how those things work. Next time just be patient.
A couple of days days on an RP for a map update, and waiting since I got here for an answer to the time question isn't something one wants to do >_>Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:CONGRATULATIONS YOU JUST GAINED A BUNCH OF WORTHLESS LAND, WITH ANGRY NATIVES IN THEM.
Actually, all of that land is very valuable x3 I think you need to read up on each of the nations, and their natural resources ^_^ African nations only struggle because they don't take advantage of their resources. Even Mauritania, which is in Sub-Saharan Africa, has nice resources... including a ridiculous amount of fish O_o. Like, if fish were to take over the world, it'd be there.
by Kargintina » Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:48 am
Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:One day Bavaria is going to have its own empire.
by Gadrana-Eshil » Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:49 am
Sanabel wrote:I have some issues with Portugal's latest post.
How is the economy doing so well? You dnt say how...it just...is. Making more merchant ships doesn't magically increase trade. And your colonial economy would be taking a major hit, due to the fact that now slaves must be paid. There would be less product foe your new merchant ships, which would create a double deficit.
Saudi Arabia isn't a country yet.
How can the Portuguese state afford to pay to refurbish ships, expand the military, create a massive merchant fleet, and launch colonial expansions into places rife with disease and angry natives without creating a major deficit?
Appealing sodomy laws would make you an international pariah. Especially considering you are one of the most devout catholic states in the world.l
Segmentia wrote:Honestly the OP will probably shoot those expansions down. You can't just declare your own gains.
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:CONGRATULATIONS YOU JUST GAINED A BUNCH OF WORTHLESS LAND, WITH ANGRY NATIVES IN THEM.
And don't forgot, malaria.
An ode to malaria
''Oh, malaria,
*cough cough*
*cough cough cough*
I'm hot and cold at the same time,
Bleeeeeergh"Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
A couple of days days on an RP for a map update, and waiting since I got here for an answer to the time question isn't something one wants to do >_>
Actually, all of that land is very valuable x3 I think you need to read up on each of the nations, and their natural resources ^_^ African nations only struggle because they don't take advantage of their resources. Even Mauritania, which is in Sub-Saharan Africa, has nice resources... including a ridiculous amount of fish O_o. Like, if fish were to take over the world, it'd be there.
Resources that you are not able to get to yet, because you don't have the technology to even get those resources out of the soil. And the resources you do have access to are not going to be cost-effective to mine. Sweden has cheap iron, Britain has cheap coal, gold can still be found in the Americas and so can silver. The US has cheap cotton, Ireland produces tonnes of wool. Africa is not cost-effective at this point in time. And that leaves out the angry natives and the malaria, against which there is still no remedy. Oh, and Tsetse-disease. God, Africa is an awful continent for colonisation.
For example: South Africa is rich in gold. However, the gold reserves are inpure, and they require dynamite to get to. Once reached, it requires a cyanide compound to purify, and industrial machinery to further sift out the remains. All of which is still impossible in 1836.
by Russian people of america » Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:50 am
by Gadrana-Eshil » Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:51 am
by Sanabel » Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:53 am
Segmentia wrote:Honestly the OP will probably shoot those expansions down. You can't just declare your own gains.
by Nkrumahland » Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:53 am
by Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:53 am
Gadrana-Eshil wrote:And if Africa is so horrible, why did Europe colonize 98% of it? >_>
by Gadrana-Eshil » Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:55 am
Segmentia wrote:Also Portugal, what was this about you wanting to ally with Russia?
by Russian people of america » Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:55 am
Segmentia wrote:Russian people of america wrote:Depends, Hanover would gain the Russian Bear's protection. Austria would gain the brute force needed to gain control over Germany, Sweden would have a secure eastern border, and wouldn't have to worry about Finland. Greece, should it choose to align itself with Russia would receive support and protection, along with the possibility to gain land should it join us against the Ottomans.
If/when this war kicks off I'm totally bombing Saint Petersburg into rubble with the British Navy -.-
by Gadrana-Eshil » Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:56 am
by Segmentia » Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:57 am
Gadrana-Eshil wrote:I wanted to ally with Russia, since you were supposed to have a royal marriage with them, or something.
Russian people of america wrote:Eh, we'll just evacuate the city and move the capital inland to Moscow. Keep in mind doing so would destroy any chance to end the Great Game peacefully, Russian-Anglo Relations would be permanently crippled.
by Sanabel » Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:57 am
Gadrana-Eshil wrote:Sanabel wrote:I have some issues with Portugal's latest post.
How is the economy doing so well? You dnt say how...it just...is. Making more merchant ships doesn't magically increase trade. And your colonial economy would be taking a major hit, due to the fact that now slaves must be paid. There would be less product foe your new merchant ships, which would create a double deficit.
Saudi Arabia isn't a country yet.
How can the Portuguese state afford to pay to refurbish ships, expand the military, create a massive merchant fleet, and launch colonial expansions into places rife with disease and angry natives without creating a major deficit?
Appealing sodomy laws would make you an international pariah. Especially considering you are one of the most devout catholic states in the world.l
1) Uhm, check the post before?
2) No, but the Arabian peninsula is still the Arabian peninsula
3) *Shrugs.* Don't know, don't care.
4) Really? France hasn't had them since 1791 :/ It's France, man xD
5) The only Bible to make a big deal out of it is the King James Bible, which shouldn't be trusted since King James changed the book that has been explicitly stated not to be changed just so he could divorce his wife, marry another woman, and express his viewsSegmentia wrote:Honestly the OP will probably shoot those expansions down. You can't just declare your own gains.
Uhm, well, seeing as how everyone told me that what happens to my nation is up to be, including losses, events, et cetera, and that asking for anything more was asking for the OP to hold my hand, and walk me through the game, I have to disagree Still, I don't want that much land, if it's too much, I just want to expand e_e If you don't want me to make the map wrong, then don't let me, the person who is horrible with maps, edit the map, and help me with it >_>Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:And don't forgot, malaria.
An ode to malaria
''Oh, malaria,
*cough cough*
*cough cough cough*
I'm hot and cold at the same time,
Bleeeeeergh"
Resources that you are not able to get to yet, because you don't have the technology to even get those resources out of the soil. And the resources you do have access to are not going to be cost-effective to mine. Sweden has cheap iron, Britain has cheap coal, gold can still be found in the Americas and so can silver. The US has cheap cotton, Ireland produces tonnes of wool. Africa is not cost-effective at this point in time. And that leaves out the angry natives and the malaria, against which there is still no remedy. Oh, and Tsetse-disease. God, Africa is an awful continent for colonisation.
For example: South Africa is rich in gold. However, the gold reserves are inpure, and they require dynamite to get to. Once reached, it requires a cyanide compound to purify, and industrial machinery to further sift out the remains. All of which is still impossible in 1836.
Really? We can purify platinum. Gold is simple >_>
Besides, yes, yes we can get things out of the ground. Across the empire, that's what I'm going to do.
by Gadrana-Eshil » Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:01 am
Segmentia wrote:Gadrana-Eshil wrote:I wanted to ally with Russia, since you were supposed to have a royal marriage with them, or something.
I'm having a royal marriage with France.Russian people of america wrote:Eh, we'll just evacuate the city and move the capital inland to Moscow. Keep in mind doing so would destroy any chance to end the Great Game peacefully, Russian-Anglo Relations would be permanently crippled.
Is Russia actually open to ending the Great Game peacefully? I'd still be helping Prussia in an attempt to keep you out of Europe though.
Sanabel wrote:Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
1) Uhm, check the post before?
2) No, but the Arabian peninsula is still the Arabian peninsula
3) *Shrugs.* Don't know, don't care.
4) Really? France hasn't had them since 1791 :/ It's France, man xD
5) The only Bible to make a big deal out of it is the King James Bible, which shouldn't be trusted since King James changed the book that has been explicitly stated not to be changed just so he could divorce his wife, marry another woman, and express his views
Uhm, well, seeing as how everyone told me that what happens to my nation is up to be, including losses, events, et cetera, and that asking for anything more was asking for the OP to hold my hand, and walk me through the game, I have to disagree Still, I don't want that much land, if it's too much, I just want to expand e_e If you don't want me to make the map wrong, then don't let me, the person who is horrible with maps, edit the map, and help me with it >_>
Really? We can purify platinum. Gold is simple >_>
Besides, yes, yes we can get things out of the ground. Across the empire, that's what I'm going to do.
Ok, so basically you are defying basic economic principles, ie simple math, and don't care about it? That's godmoddihg. Your economy would be broken right now.
And I'm curious as to how your colonists in Africa are surviving natives and heinous diseases rn.
by Segmentia » Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:02 am
by Russian people of america » Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:03 am
Segmentia wrote:Gadrana-Eshil wrote:I wanted to ally with Russia, since you were supposed to have a royal marriage with them, or something.
I'm having a royal marriage with France.Russian people of america wrote:Eh, we'll just evacuate the city and move the capital inland to Moscow. Keep in mind doing so would destroy any chance to end the Great Game peacefully, Russian-Anglo Relations would be permanently crippled.
Is Russia actually open to ending the Great Game peacefully? I'd still be helping Prussia in an attempt to keep you out of Europe though.
by Nkrumahland » Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:03 am
Gadrana-Eshil wrote:Segmentia wrote:
I'm having a royal marriage with France.
Is Russia actually open to ending the Great Game peacefully? I'd still be helping Prussia in an attempt to keep you out of Europe though.
I'm so confused. >_>
Swore it was Russia. Damn it, that means I have to ally the French D; I don't want to all the French. Actually, no I don't need to.Sanabel wrote:Ok, so basically you are defying basic economic principles, ie simple math, and don't care about it? That's godmoddihg. Your economy would be broken right now.
And I'm curious as to how your colonists in Africa are surviving natives and heinous diseases rn.
It must be true since it came from the all-mighty Sanabel. >_> /sarcasm
Seriously, maybe you should try developing your nations in creative ways, and thinking hard on what to do, instead of sitting there, and waging war, and doing general, non-creative things, only to have someone rip on your every action, and shoot you down. It just isn't right, mate. e_e No one likes that.
by Segmentia » Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:04 am
Russian people of america wrote:Segmentia wrote:
I'm having a royal marriage with France.
Is Russia actually open to ending the Great Game peacefully? I'd still be helping Prussia in an attempt to keep you out of Europe though.
Possibly, it would have to negotiated but Alexander would be interested in ending it. What do you mean by help? Do you mean Aid or do you mean you'll actually deploy soldier's to Prussia?
by Gadrana-Eshil » Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:04 am
Segmentia wrote:I don't care who you ally with, but if you ally with Russia, expect a massive blow to our relations.
Nkrumahland wrote:Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
I'm so confused. >_>
Swore it was Russia. Damn it, that means I have to ally the French D; I don't want to all the French. Actually, no I don't need to.
It must be true since it came from the all-mighty Sanabel. >_> /sarcasm
Seriously, maybe you should try developing your nations in creative ways, and thinking hard on what to do, instead of sitting there, and waging war, and doing general, non-creative things, only to have someone rip on your every action, and shoot you down. It just isn't right, mate. e_e No one likes that.
Are you still doing the events idea? I could help you with some.
Segmentia wrote:Russian people of america wrote:Possibly, it would have to negotiated but Alexander would be interested in ending it. What do you mean by help? Do you mean Aid or do you mean you'll actually deploy soldier's to Prussia?
At this point I might actually have to deploy soldiers to Prussia.
by Russian people of america » Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:06 am
Segmentia wrote:I don't care who you ally with, but if you ally with Russia, expect a massive blow to our relations.
by Gadrana-Eshil » Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:07 am
by Gadrana-Eshil » Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:08 am
by Federal States of Xathuecia » Sat Apr 09, 2016 10:10 am
Gadrana-Eshil wrote:Ooooh... they play Denmark-Norway. See, I got confused. >_>
This happens occasionally
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