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Postby Segmentia » Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:14 pm

Answer you about what?
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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:15 pm

SEGMENTIA

Gadrana-Eshil wrote:Let Portugal in on it :o

Like the OP says, we're your longest, closest, most loyal allies [it also says betraying us is against the rules :P]. To leave us out is heresy >:c

Plus, you haven't really interacted with the Portugal. Our nations are super chummy, remember? We should have a meeting, or something, to draft up plans for the next decade ^_^ ((With Sanabel included))


This! ^_^ And my TG :P

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Postby Stadenwick » Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:16 pm

Sanabel wrote:
Stadenwick wrote:I swear Sanabel, with your picture like that anything you say become the dankest of memes


They never say what year is it though, right? :p

My life basically is a meme, I've come to realize and accept.

Even the pic of me on my sig is me imitating a meme.

"Hello dankness my old friend...Ive come to browse your memes again..."
Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:To troll the Brits or troll the Austrians that is the question...

I'm leaning towards jumping in on Austria, as then I could join the hot mess that central Europe will become.


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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:19 pm

Stadenwick wrote:
Sanabel wrote:My life basically is a meme, I've come to realize and accept.

Even the pic of me on my sig is me imitating a meme.

"Hello dankness my old friend...Ive come to browse your memes again..."

I'm leaning towards jumping in on Austria, as then I could join the hot mess that central Europe will become.


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Postby Segmentia » Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:21 pm

I haven't interacted with anyone yet, as you may have noticed. I haven't posted in the IC yet.

I don't plan on betraying you, but I do advise against encroaching upon British interests. Though that probably goes for everyone really.

And I appreciate the support you offered in your TG, and should it come to it I shall call upon it. I would much rather prefer it if you worked on the economy of Portugal first and got everything steady. And started getting rid of slave labor, but that is up to you.
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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:22 pm

Segmentia wrote:I haven't interacted with anyone yet, as you may have noticed. I haven't posted in the IC yet.

I don't plan on betraying you, but I do advise against encroaching upon British interests. Though that probably goes for everyone really.

And I appreciate the support you offered in your TG, and should it come to it I shall call upon it. I would much rather prefer it if you worked on the economy of Portugal first and got everything steady. And started getting rid of slave labor, but that is up to you.


We can't get rid of slave labor, without bankrupting Portugal :P

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Postby Valloria » Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:25 pm

Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Austria here is my plan for the invasion. I will launch a very well planned and prepared for invasion of Wurttemberg I expect to occupy most of the country within a month or two, maybe less, to draw Hanover into the war, and maybe force the Prussians to deploy some troops. Meanwhile, a joint Austro-Bavarian force(I will attempt to send my other professional Korps your way, along with another reserve Korps), to attack through Silesia where your cavalry, and grenadiers would do very well against the Prussians, while my forces can follow up the initial success with a rapid exploitation manuvuer to destroy large amounts of Prussians, I believe that the war can be over in 6 months. I can mobilize upward of 70,000 to 80,000 troops, maybe more if I feel like we are losing.



Good plan. However, I need until July to ready my armies for invasion, but North Germany has resolved to leave the HRE, and I cannot abide by this. So I'll place 100,000 troops at my border and brace for a Prussian attack (easily repulsed, as I've got the best cavalry as well as defensive force in the world). I've modified your strategy slightly and added it to my overarching plan:

Austria: 350,000 troops, 500,000 reserves.
Bavaria: 50,000 troops, 30-40,000 reserves.
Russia: 550,000 troops, 700,000 reserves.
Denmark: 25,000 troops, 25,000 reserves.

Austria has 125,000 veteran troops (from the Venetian War 7 years ago) and 225,000 untested. It is still January, and I have about 5 months to ready my invasion force. That's just enough time to train 250,000 men.

First, I place 70,000 of my veteran troops on my Prussian border. Prussia has 3x as many troops, but I have an unbelievable advantage: I'm fighting on my home turf, I have the best defense in the world, and Prussia has to hastily gather its forces for attack. This will be an easily defended position. My other 30,000 veterans will integrate into your armies. I would like you to raise 70,000 men and place them at the ready for defense.

I expect that the North German forces (excl. Prussians) will unite at Frankfurt or Dusseldorf or some other major central city. Conscription and union will take until April at the earliest, and you are already combat-ready. This gives us an overwhelming advantage. I want you to fight your way to the French border and then stop. By then, 125,000 of my 225,000 untested troops will be right alongside you, and my 30,000 veterans plus 25,000 untested units will have already set up a comprehensive defensive line on your northern border.

At this point, I expect the French will involve themselves, and their lack of competent leadership will be their undoing. I will have our joint French border army move to an inconspicuous but defensible point, then send 70,000 of our troops to hide 10 miles away. The morons leading the French will believe that these troops are the ones that I have moved to your northern border, when in fact they'll be just over the horizon. As soon as the first shot is fired, scouts will relay the beginning of the battle to the hidden force and they will move in.

If all works out, the French army as a fighting force will no longer exist. I hope to accomplish such a complete victory over them to knock them out of the war, or at least put them on the run for a year or more. If we can get at least 150,000 French troops to attack our position, we'll have destroyed enough to not have to worry about the French (or even maybe sign a separate peace).

Britain will take longer to get ready, due to its incessant budgeting and its quite frank lack of actual interest in this war. It just wants to preserve the status quo, and it has nothing to gain. Their participation will not be all-encompassing, and their best weapons (economics) will be no use against non-colonial powers. I expect maybe 150,000-250,000 Brits to get involved, by September at the earliest. It will most likely be in a steady stream to reinforce much-needed enemy fronts.

This is okay, probably better than a joint force due to Britain's sensible war planning and competent generals. Moving on to Prussia, I expect the Russians to have 300,000 men by July. A bit earlier (May), I'll have 100,000 troops reinforcing the 70,000 defenders along the Prussian border. 470,000 troops will move in on Prussia and occupy everything. We'll steamroll right through Berlin after crushing what's left of the Prussian army and threaten Hanover into immediate submission.

In the north, during the beginning stages of the war, the Danes will ferry 25,000 troops over to Austrian Belgium while Britain is still griping about whether or not to get involved and to what extent. Denmark will not formally declare on Prussia until these 25,000 troops are in Belgium. Once they are, they will join up with the 30,000 Austrian troops stationed there and move on the Dutch if they get involved. If the Netherlands is holing up behind the water line, the Danes and myself will fortify on the southern border in case France decides they should throw themselves onto Belgium.

In the end, only a policy of enclosure and steamrolling will work. Stacking troops after troops will allow for ultimate victory.

Also @Sanabel, don't screw this up for me. Please. It'd be difficult to have to reorganize my government in the midst of a war.
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Postby Segmentia » Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:27 pm

I do have a vested interest in the war. Its called Russian.
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Postby Valloria » Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:28 pm

Segmentia wrote:I do have a vested interest in the war. Its called Russian.

So how many troops do you plan to commit to this... I'm not even going to call it a war. It's going to be a clusterfuck. An entertaining one to be sure. But a clusterfuck nonetheless.
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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:32 pm

Valloria wrote:
Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Austria here is my plan for the invasion. I will launch a very well planned and prepared for invasion of Wurttemberg I expect to occupy most of the country within a month or two, maybe less, to draw Hanover into the war, and maybe force the Prussians to deploy some troops. Meanwhile, a joint Austro-Bavarian force(I will attempt to send my other professional Korps your way, along with another reserve Korps), to attack through Silesia where your cavalry, and grenadiers would do very well against the Prussians, while my forces can follow up the initial success with a rapid exploitation manuvuer to destroy large amounts of Prussians, I believe that the war can be over in 6 months. I can mobilize upward of 70,000 to 80,000 troops, maybe more if I feel like we are losing.



Good plan. However, I need until July to ready my armies for invasion, but North Germany has resolved to leave the HRE, and I cannot abide by this. So I'll place 100,000 troops at my border and brace for a Prussian attack (easily repulsed, as I've got the best cavalry as well as defensive force in the world). I've modified your strategy slightly and added it to my overarching plan:

Austria: 350,000 troops, 500,000 reserves.
Bavaria: 50,000 troops, 30-40,000 reserves.
Russia: 550,000 troops, 700,000 reserves.
Denmark: 25,000 troops, 25,000 reserves.

Austria has 125,000 veteran troops (from the Venetian War 7 years ago) and 225,000 untested. It is still January, and I have about 5 months to ready my invasion force. That's just enough time to train 250,000 men.

First, I place 70,000 of my veteran troops on my Prussian border. Prussia has 3x as many troops, but I have an unbelievable advantage: I'm fighting on my home turf, I have the best defense in the world, and Prussia has to hastily gather its forces for attack. This will be an easily defended position. My other 30,000 veterans will integrate into your armies. I would like you to raise 70,000 men and place them at the ready for defense.

I expect that the North German forces (excl. Prussians) will unite at Frankfurt or Dusseldorf or some other major central city. Conscription and union will take until April at the earliest, and you are already combat-ready. This gives us an overwhelming advantage. I want you to fight your way to the French border and then stop. By then, 125,000 of my 225,000 untested troops will be right alongside you, and my 30,000 veterans plus 25,000 untested units will have already set up a comprehensive defensive line on your northern border.

At this point, I expect the French will involve themselves, and their lack of competent leadership will be their undoing. I will have our joint French border army move to an inconspicuous but defensible point, then send 70,000 of our troops to hide 10 miles away. The morons leading the French will believe that these troops are the ones that I have moved to your northern border, when in fact they'll be just over the horizon. As soon as the first shot is fired, scouts will relay the beginning of the battle to the hidden force and they will move in.

If all works out, the French army as a fighting force will no longer exist. I hope to accomplish such a complete victory over them to knock them out of the war, or at least put them on the run for a year or more. If we can get at least 150,000 French troops to attack our position, we'll have destroyed enough to not have to worry about the French (or even maybe sign a separate peace).

Britain will take longer to get ready, due to its incessant budgeting and its quite frank lack of actual interest in this war. It just wants to preserve the status quo, and it has nothing to gain. Their participation will not be all-encompassing, and their best weapons (economics) will be no use against non-colonial powers. I expect maybe 150,000-250,000 Brits to get involved, by September at the earliest. It will most likely be in a steady stream to reinforce much-needed enemy fronts.

This is okay, probably better than a joint force due to Britain's sensible war planning and competent generals. Moving on to Prussia, I expect the Russians to have 300,000 men by July. A bit earlier (May), I'll have 100,000 troops reinforcing the 70,000 defenders along the Prussian border. 470,000 troops will move in on Prussia and occupy everything. We'll steamroll right through Berlin after crushing what's left of the Prussian army and threaten Hanover into immediate submission.

In the north, during the beginning stages of the war, the Danes will ferry 25,000 troops over to Austrian Belgium while Britain is still griping about whether or not to get involved and to what extent. Denmark will not formally declare on Prussia until these 25,000 troops are in Belgium. Once they are, they will join up with the 30,000 Austrian troops stationed there and move on the Dutch if they get involved. If the Netherlands is holing up behind the water line, the Danes and myself will fortify on the southern border in case France decides they should throw themselves onto Belgium.

In the end, only a policy of enclosure and steamrolling will work. Stacking troops after troops will allow for ultimate victory.

Also @Sanabel, don't screw this up for me. Please. It'd be difficult to have to reorganize my government in the midst of a war.


You forget Portugal, which will raise as many soldiers as possible to defend Britain, Portugal, and their interests. We will have 600,000 semi-professional forces, all trained half as much, but with all the same equipment, as our normal forces, on the defense across the colonies, while close to 400,000 professional soldiers by the time this is done :P

We also have an incredible navy. However, with the French exterminated as a fighting force, we will request Britain's aid in attacking the Spaniards, and their colonies, as the only thing holding them back was France :P

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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:33 pm

The Great War is coming a bit early x3

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Postby Valloria » Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:36 pm

Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
Valloria wrote:

Good plan. However, I need until July to ready my armies for invasion, but North Germany has resolved to leave the HRE, and I cannot abide by this. So I'll place 100,000 troops at my border and brace for a Prussian attack (easily repulsed, as I've got the best cavalry as well as defensive force in the world). I've modified your strategy slightly and added it to my overarching plan:

Austria: 350,000 troops, 500,000 reserves.
Bavaria: 50,000 troops, 30-40,000 reserves.
Russia: 550,000 troops, 700,000 reserves.
Denmark: 25,000 troops, 25,000 reserves.

Austria has 125,000 veteran troops (from the Venetian War 7 years ago) and 225,000 untested. It is still January, and I have about 5 months to ready my invasion force. That's just enough time to train 250,000 men.

First, I place 70,000 of my veteran troops on my Prussian border. Prussia has 3x as many troops, but I have an unbelievable advantage: I'm fighting on my home turf, I have the best defense in the world, and Prussia has to hastily gather its forces for attack. This will be an easily defended position. My other 30,000 veterans will integrate into your armies. I would like you to raise 70,000 men and place them at the ready for defense.

I expect that the North German forces (excl. Prussians) will unite at Frankfurt or Dusseldorf or some other major central city. Conscription and union will take until April at the earliest, and you are already combat-ready. This gives us an overwhelming advantage. I want you to fight your way to the French border and then stop. By then, 125,000 of my 225,000 untested troops will be right alongside you, and my 30,000 veterans plus 25,000 untested units will have already set up a comprehensive defensive line on your northern border.

At this point, I expect the French will involve themselves, and their lack of competent leadership will be their undoing. I will have our joint French border army move to an inconspicuous but defensible point, then send 70,000 of our troops to hide 10 miles away. The morons leading the French will believe that these troops are the ones that I have moved to your northern border, when in fact they'll be just over the horizon. As soon as the first shot is fired, scouts will relay the beginning of the battle to the hidden force and they will move in.

If all works out, the French army as a fighting force will no longer exist. I hope to accomplish such a complete victory over them to knock them out of the war, or at least put them on the run for a year or more. If we can get at least 150,000 French troops to attack our position, we'll have destroyed enough to not have to worry about the French (or even maybe sign a separate peace).

Britain will take longer to get ready, due to its incessant budgeting and its quite frank lack of actual interest in this war. It just wants to preserve the status quo, and it has nothing to gain. Their participation will not be all-encompassing, and their best weapons (economics) will be no use against non-colonial powers. I expect maybe 150,000-250,000 Brits to get involved, by September at the earliest. It will most likely be in a steady stream to reinforce much-needed enemy fronts.

This is okay, probably better than a joint force due to Britain's sensible war planning and competent generals. Moving on to Prussia, I expect the Russians to have 300,000 men by July. A bit earlier (May), I'll have 100,000 troops reinforcing the 70,000 defenders along the Prussian border. 470,000 troops will move in on Prussia and occupy everything. We'll steamroll right through Berlin after crushing what's left of the Prussian army and threaten Hanover into immediate submission.

In the north, during the beginning stages of the war, the Danes will ferry 25,000 troops over to Austrian Belgium while Britain is still griping about whether or not to get involved and to what extent. Denmark will not formally declare on Prussia until these 25,000 troops are in Belgium. Once they are, they will join up with the 30,000 Austrian troops stationed there and move on the Dutch if they get involved. If the Netherlands is holing up behind the water line, the Danes and myself will fortify on the southern border in case France decides they should throw themselves onto Belgium.

In the end, only a policy of enclosure and steamrolling will work. Stacking troops after troops will allow for ultimate victory.

Also @Sanabel, don't screw this up for me. Please. It'd be difficult to have to reorganize my government in the midst of a war.


You forget Portugal, which will raise as many soldiers as possible to defend Britain, Portugal, and their interests. We will have 600,000 semi-professional forces, all trained half as much, but with all the same equipment, as our normal forces, on the defense across the colonies, while close to 400,000 professional soldiers by the time this is done :P

We also have an incredible navy. However, with the French exterminated as a fighting force, we will request Britain's aid in attacking the Spaniards, and their colonies, as the only thing holding them back was France :P

Chain alliances are not a thing yet. Bismarckian politics aren't alive just now, and dynastic alliances still exist. If Britain attacks me as a reprisal for attacking Prussia, you have no real reason to attack me.

If you remove your troops from your colonies, your enterprise goes kaput. They're there to keep the peace. And peace is what you should value. You don't want to jeopardize future friendships in the name of protecting an alliance that hasn't even been called on in the context of real life. Portugal in real life would never have intervened on Britain's behalf in a war that Britain intervened in on Hanover's behalf, who intervened on Prussia's behalf.
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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:42 pm

Valloria wrote:
Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
You forget Portugal, which will raise as many soldiers as possible to defend Britain, Portugal, and their interests. We will have 600,000 semi-professional forces, all trained half as much, but with all the same equipment, as our normal forces, on the defense across the colonies, while close to 400,000 professional soldiers by the time this is done :P

We also have an incredible navy. However, with the French exterminated as a fighting force, we will request Britain's aid in attacking the Spaniards, and their colonies, as the only thing holding them back was France :P

Chain alliances are not a thing yet. Bismarckian politics aren't alive just now, and dynastic alliances still exist. If Britain attacks me as a reprisal for attacking Prussia, you have no real reason to attack me.

If you remove your troops from your colonies, your enterprise goes kaput. They're there to keep the peace. And peace is what you should value. You don't want to jeopardize future friendships in the name of protecting an alliance that hasn't even been called on in the context of real life. Portugal in real life would never have intervened on Britain's behalf in a war that Britain intervened in on Hanover's behalf, who intervened on Prussia's behalf.


The alliance has been called on, in the context of real life, for... let's see? Over a dozen times in a 600 year span. Here, it's a 400 year span, and it has been called upon in multiple times. Portugal, right now, wants power. Its leaders, while the same leaders as IRL in this time, are completely different as individuals, with a completely different hierarchy, because of the actions of leaders past. Therefore, Portugal is a completely different nations, with different wants, that is bored with stagnating. It still has muscles, and it will flex them as much as necessary to exert power.

I have a reason to attack you if I fear for Britain. Against an empire that has ridiculous might? Well, let's just say that you would need some friends, and Britain can't fight that war alone :P

:P Besides, who said I would remove troops from my colonies?

This alliance? It's one of the most epic in history :P It's also the longest alliance the UK has had... ever.

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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:45 pm

Besides, if you attack the French, and the British are pulled into the war, it will pull both the Spanish, and Portugal into the war. Portugal is mending relations with both, and is an ally of the UK. The French, and the Spanish are led by the same noble house. The noble house of the Portuguese, while more intelligent than the leaders of the moronic French, is actually a branch of their noble houses.

:/

Dynastic alliance? Yeah, dude, you're going to suffer the wrath of what are literally some of the most powerful nations ever to exist.

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Postby Stadenwick » Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:48 pm

Segmentia wrote:I do have a vested interest in the war. Its called Russian.

Brits, after this whole mess, could we get few agreements going and a royal wedding? Russia getting their hand pretty deep to Sweden, and we the lions of the North have to stop the bear encroachment to Northern Europe or their influence would become bigger and bigger, endangering us both in politic, military, and trade.
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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:51 pm

Stadenwick wrote:
Segmentia wrote:I do have a vested interest in the war. Its called Russian.

Brits, after this whole mess, could we get few agreements going and a royal wedding? Russia getting their hand pretty deep to Sweden, and we the lions of the North have to stop the bear encroachment to Northern Europe or their influence would become bigger and bigger, endangering us both in politic, military, and trade.


Wanna enter into a trade alliance, and symbolic military treaty ((I mean, no way we can actually come to each other's aid, cept in a different continent, at least in time... I mean, but a symbolic military alliance because of your marriage with the British would be great... and, who knows, maybe we could help you? ^_^)) with the Portugal? Our economy is just going to get stronger, and stronger. ^_^

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Postby Sanabel » Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:55 pm

Valloria wrote:
Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Austria here is my plan for the invasion. I will launch a very well planned and prepared for invasion of Wurttemberg I expect to occupy most of the country within a month or two, maybe less, to draw Hanover into the war, and maybe force the Prussians to deploy some troops. Meanwhile, a joint Austro-Bavarian force(I will attempt to send my other professional Korps your way, along with another reserve Korps), to attack through Silesia where your cavalry, and grenadiers would do very well against the Prussians, while my forces can follow up the initial success with a rapid exploitation manuvuer to destroy large amounts of Prussians, I believe that the war can be over in 6 months. I can mobilize upward of 70,000 to 80,000 troops, maybe more if I feel like we are losing.



Good plan. However, I need until July to ready my armies for invasion, but North Germany has resolved to leave the HRE, and I cannot abide by this. So I'll place 100,000 troops at my border and brace for a Prussian attack (easily repulsed, as I've got the best cavalry as well as defensive force in the world). I've modified your strategy slightly and added it to my overarching plan:

Austria: 350,000 troops, 500,000 reserves.
Bavaria: 50,000 troops, 30-40,000 reserves.
Russia: 550,000 troops, 700,000 reserves.
Denmark: 25,000 troops, 25,000 reserves.

Austria has 125,000 veteran troops (from the Venetian War 7 years ago) and 225,000 untested. It is still January, and I have about 5 months to ready my invasion force. That's just enough time to train 250,000 men.

First, I place 70,000 of my veteran troops on my Prussian border. Prussia has 3x as many troops, but I have an unbelievable advantage: I'm fighting on my home turf, I have the best defense in the world, and Prussia has to hastily gather its forces for attack. This will be an easily defended position. My other 30,000 veterans will integrate into your armies. I would like you to raise 70,000 men and place them at the ready for defense.

I expect that the North German forces (excl. Prussians) will unite at Frankfurt or Dusseldorf or some other major central city. Conscription and union will take until April at the earliest, and you are already combat-ready. This gives us an overwhelming advantage. I want you to fight your way to the French border and then stop. By then, 125,000 of my 225,000 untested troops will be right alongside you, and my 30,000 veterans plus 25,000 untested units will have already set up a comprehensive defensive line on your northern border.

At this point, I expect the French will involve themselves, and their lack of competent leadership will be their undoing. I will have our joint French border army move to an inconspicuous but defensible point, then send 70,000 of our troops to hide 10 miles away. The morons leading the French will believe that these troops are the ones that I have moved to your northern border, when in fact they'll be just over the horizon. As soon as the first shot is fired, scouts will relay the beginning of the battle to the hidden force and they will move in.

If all works out, the French army as a fighting force will no longer exist. I hope to accomplish such a complete victory over them to knock them out of the war, or at least put them on the run for a year or more. If we can get at least 150,000 French troops to attack our position, we'll have destroyed enough to not have to worry about the French (or even maybe sign a separate peace).

Britain will take longer to get ready, due to its incessant budgeting and its quite frank lack of actual interest in this war. It just wants to preserve the status quo, and it has nothing to gain. Their participation will not be all-encompassing, and their best weapons (economics) will be no use against non-colonial powers. I expect maybe 150,000-250,000 Brits to get involved, by September at the earliest. It will most likely be in a steady stream to reinforce much-needed enemy fronts.

This is okay, probably better than a joint force due to Britain's sensible war planning and competent generals. Moving on to Prussia, I expect the Russians to have 300,000 men by July. A bit earlier (May), I'll have 100,000 troops reinforcing the 70,000 defenders along the Prussian border. 470,000 troops will move in on Prussia and occupy everything. We'll steamroll right through Berlin after crushing what's left of the Prussian army and threaten Hanover into immediate submission.

In the north, during the beginning stages of the war, the Danes will ferry 25,000 troops over to Austrian Belgium while Britain is still griping about whether or not to get involved and to what extent. Denmark will not formally declare on Prussia until these 25,000 troops are in Belgium. Once they are, they will join up with the 30,000 Austrian troops stationed there and move on the Dutch if they get involved. If the Netherlands is holing up behind the water line, the Danes and myself will fortify on the southern border in case France decides they should throw themselves onto Belgium.

In the end, only a policy of enclosure and steamrolling will work. Stacking troops after troops will allow for ultimate victory.

Also @Sanabel, don't screw this up for me. Please. It'd be difficult to have to reorganize my government in the midst of a war.

Idk...im tempted to hold an open revolt while the time is ripe...

Just try and stop it...
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Postby Stadenwick » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:01 pm

Valloria wrote:
Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:Austria here is my plan for the invasion. I will launch a very well planned and prepared for invasion of Wurttemberg I expect to occupy most of the country within a month or two, maybe less, to draw Hanover into the war, and maybe force the Prussians to deploy some troops. Meanwhile, a joint Austro-Bavarian force(I will attempt to send my other professional Korps your way, along with another reserve Korps), to attack through Silesia where your cavalry, and grenadiers would do very well against the Prussians, while my forces can follow up the initial success with a rapid exploitation manuvuer to destroy large amounts of Prussians, I believe that the war can be over in 6 months. I can mobilize upward of 70,000 to 80,000 troops, maybe more if I feel like we are losing.



Good plan. However, I need until July to ready my armies for invasion, but North Germany has resolved to leave the HRE, and I cannot abide by this. So I'll place 100,000 troops at my border and brace for a Prussian attack (easily repulsed, as I've got the best cavalry as well as defensive force in the world). I've modified your strategy slightly and added it to my overarching plan:

Austria: 350,000 troops, 500,000 reserves.
Bavaria: 50,000 troops, 30-40,000 reserves.
Russia: 550,000 troops, 700,000 reserves.
Denmark: 25,000 troops, 25,000 reserves.

Austria has 125,000 veteran troops (from the Venetian War 7 years ago) and 225,000 untested. It is still January, and I have about 5 months to ready my invasion force. That's just enough time to train 250,000 men.

First, I place 70,000 of my veteran troops on my Prussian border. Prussia has 3x as many troops, but I have an unbelievable advantage: I'm fighting on my home turf, I have the best defense in the world, and Prussia has to hastily gather its forces for attack. This will be an easily defended position. My other 30,000 veterans will integrate into your armies. I would like you to raise 70,000 men and place them at the ready for defense.

I expect that the North German forces (excl. Prussians) will unite at Frankfurt or Dusseldorf or some other major central city. Conscription and union will take until April at the earliest, and you are already combat-ready. This gives us an overwhelming advantage. I want you to fight your way to the French border and then stop. By then, 125,000 of my 225,000 untested troops will be right alongside you, and my 30,000 veterans plus 25,000 untested units will have already set up a comprehensive defensive line on your northern border.

At this point, I expect the French will involve themselves, and their lack of competent leadership will be their undoing. I will have our joint French border army move to an inconspicuous but defensible point, then send 70,000 of our troops to hide 10 miles away. The morons leading the French will believe that these troops are the ones that I have moved to your northern border, when in fact they'll be just over the horizon. As soon as the first shot is fired, scouts will relay the beginning of the battle to the hidden force and they will move in.

If all works out, the French army as a fighting force will no longer exist. I hope to accomplish such a complete victory over them to knock them out of the war, or at least put them on the run for a year or more. If we can get at least 150,000 French troops to attack our position, we'll have destroyed enough to not have to worry about the French (or even maybe sign a separate peace).

Britain will take longer to get ready, due to its incessant budgeting and its quite frank lack of actual interest in this war. It just wants to preserve the status quo, and it has nothing to gain. Their participation will not be all-encompassing, and their best weapons (economics) will be no use against non-colonial powers. I expect maybe 150,000-250,000 Brits to get involved, by September at the earliest. It will most likely be in a steady stream to reinforce much-needed enemy fronts.

This is okay, probably better than a joint force due to Britain's sensible war planning and competent generals. Moving on to Prussia, I expect the Russians to have 300,000 men by July. A bit earlier (May), I'll have 100,000 troops reinforcing the 70,000 defenders along the Prussian border. 470,000 troops will move in on Prussia and occupy everything. We'll steamroll right through Berlin after crushing what's left of the Prussian army and threaten Hanover into immediate submission.

In the north, during the beginning stages of the war, the Danes will ferry 25,000 troops over to Austrian Belgium while Britain is still griping about whether or not to get involved and to what extent. Denmark will not formally declare on Prussia until these 25,000 troops are in Belgium. Once they are, they will join up with the 30,000 Austrian troops stationed there and move on the Dutch if they get involved. If the Netherlands is holing up behind the water line, the Danes and myself will fortify on the southern border in case France decides they should throw themselves onto Belgium.

In the end, only a policy of enclosure and steamrolling will work. Stacking troops after troops will allow for ultimate victory.

Also @Sanabel, don't screw this up for me. Please. It'd be difficult to have to reorganize my government in the midst of a war.

Got it, Val. I'll block Prussia access to Baltic as well, make sure they bled out even faster. If Brits not really putting their hand much in the war, I block Netherland as well.

Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
Stadenwick wrote:Brits, after this whole mess, could we get few agreements going and a royal wedding? Russia getting their hand pretty deep to Sweden, and we the lions of the North have to stop the bear encroachment to Northern Europe or their influence would become bigger and bigger, endangering us both in politic, military, and trade.


Wanna enter into a trade alliance, and symbolic military treaty ((I mean, no way we can actually come to each other's aid, cept in a different continent, at least in time... I mean, but a symbolic military alliance because of your marriage with the British would be great... and, who knows, maybe we could help you? ^_^)) with the Portugal? Our economy is just going to get stronger, and stronger. ^_^

Alliance with Portugal is actually helpful if Dutch really gave up South Africa to me, since you're already have holdings there.
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Stadenwick wrote:Did you just call me wicky?

Aye.

So yeah, feel free to call me that from now on.
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Something in that direction, with some anti-Pope stuff hidden in since he claims to be a new Ecumenical Patriarch.

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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:02 pm

Stadenwick wrote:
Valloria wrote:

Good plan. However, I need until July to ready my armies for invasion, but North Germany has resolved to leave the HRE, and I cannot abide by this. So I'll place 100,000 troops at my border and brace for a Prussian attack (easily repulsed, as I've got the best cavalry as well as defensive force in the world). I've modified your strategy slightly and added it to my overarching plan:

Austria: 350,000 troops, 500,000 reserves.
Bavaria: 50,000 troops, 30-40,000 reserves.
Russia: 550,000 troops, 700,000 reserves.
Denmark: 25,000 troops, 25,000 reserves.

Austria has 125,000 veteran troops (from the Venetian War 7 years ago) and 225,000 untested. It is still January, and I have about 5 months to ready my invasion force. That's just enough time to train 250,000 men.

First, I place 70,000 of my veteran troops on my Prussian border. Prussia has 3x as many troops, but I have an unbelievable advantage: I'm fighting on my home turf, I have the best defense in the world, and Prussia has to hastily gather its forces for attack. This will be an easily defended position. My other 30,000 veterans will integrate into your armies. I would like you to raise 70,000 men and place them at the ready for defense.

I expect that the North German forces (excl. Prussians) will unite at Frankfurt or Dusseldorf or some other major central city. Conscription and union will take until April at the earliest, and you are already combat-ready. This gives us an overwhelming advantage. I want you to fight your way to the French border and then stop. By then, 125,000 of my 225,000 untested troops will be right alongside you, and my 30,000 veterans plus 25,000 untested units will have already set up a comprehensive defensive line on your northern border.

At this point, I expect the French will involve themselves, and their lack of competent leadership will be their undoing. I will have our joint French border army move to an inconspicuous but defensible point, then send 70,000 of our troops to hide 10 miles away. The morons leading the French will believe that these troops are the ones that I have moved to your northern border, when in fact they'll be just over the horizon. As soon as the first shot is fired, scouts will relay the beginning of the battle to the hidden force and they will move in.

If all works out, the French army as a fighting force will no longer exist. I hope to accomplish such a complete victory over them to knock them out of the war, or at least put them on the run for a year or more. If we can get at least 150,000 French troops to attack our position, we'll have destroyed enough to not have to worry about the French (or even maybe sign a separate peace).

Britain will take longer to get ready, due to its incessant budgeting and its quite frank lack of actual interest in this war. It just wants to preserve the status quo, and it has nothing to gain. Their participation will not be all-encompassing, and their best weapons (economics) will be no use against non-colonial powers. I expect maybe 150,000-250,000 Brits to get involved, by September at the earliest. It will most likely be in a steady stream to reinforce much-needed enemy fronts.

This is okay, probably better than a joint force due to Britain's sensible war planning and competent generals. Moving on to Prussia, I expect the Russians to have 300,000 men by July. A bit earlier (May), I'll have 100,000 troops reinforcing the 70,000 defenders along the Prussian border. 470,000 troops will move in on Prussia and occupy everything. We'll steamroll right through Berlin after crushing what's left of the Prussian army and threaten Hanover into immediate submission.

In the north, during the beginning stages of the war, the Danes will ferry 25,000 troops over to Austrian Belgium while Britain is still griping about whether or not to get involved and to what extent. Denmark will not formally declare on Prussia until these 25,000 troops are in Belgium. Once they are, they will join up with the 30,000 Austrian troops stationed there and move on the Dutch if they get involved. If the Netherlands is holing up behind the water line, the Danes and myself will fortify on the southern border in case France decides they should throw themselves onto Belgium.

In the end, only a policy of enclosure and steamrolling will work. Stacking troops after troops will allow for ultimate victory.

Also @Sanabel, don't screw this up for me. Please. It'd be difficult to have to reorganize my government in the midst of a war.

Got it, Val. I'll block Prussia access to Baltic as well, make sure they bled out even faster. If Brits not really putting their hand much in the war, I block Netherland as well.

Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
Wanna enter into a trade alliance, and symbolic military treaty ((I mean, no way we can actually come to each other's aid, cept in a different continent, at least in time... I mean, but a symbolic military alliance because of your marriage with the British would be great... and, who knows, maybe we could help you? ^_^)) with the Portugal? Our economy is just going to get stronger, and stronger. ^_^

Alliance with Portugal is actually helpful if Dutch really gave up South Africa to me, since you're already have holdings there.


Send a letter, then :P

Oh God... these crossover alliances. Totally not gonna bite us in the arse...

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:03 pm

Gadrana-Eshil wrote:I'm going to be attacking Haiti in a bit ^_^ I just need to finish writing this post. I've been working on it for a few days x3 Little by little.

Keep out of that land if you value your manpower.
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Postby Stadenwick » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:04 pm

Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
Stadenwick wrote:Got it, Val. I'll block Prussia access to Baltic as well, make sure they bled out even faster. If Brits not really putting their hand much in the war, I block Netherland as well.


Alliance with Portugal is actually helpful if Dutch really gave up South Africa to me, since you're already have holdings there.


Send a letter, then :P

Oh God... these crossover alliances. Totally not gonna bite us in the arse...

Already told you that next IC post is all about Britain and Portugal. I'm just waiting for people to post on IC more so that I won't post there too often all by myself.
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Stadenwick wrote:Did you just call me wicky?

Aye.

So yeah, feel free to call me that from now on.
Tracian Empire wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:Basically, Stadenwick is RPing as the Russian, Orthodox version of Mormonism and Deseret.

Something in that direction, with some anti-Pope stuff hidden in since he claims to be a new Ecumenical Patriarch.

That's why I don't like heresies. They need to be burned.
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Postby Nkrumahland » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:05 pm

Hopefully the Ottomans get involved.

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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:06 pm

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:
Gadrana-Eshil wrote:I'm going to be attacking Haiti in a bit ^_^ I just need to finish writing this post. I've been working on it for a few days x3 Little by little.

Keep out of that land if you value your manpower.


Really? Fighting me? The most peaceful of the European nations, aside from Switzerland?

xD If you value your nation, you'll recognize you couldn't stand up to us, strategically, since you're run by morons [[which should be played out a little more, and start to take a toll :P]]. We could crush you, alongside Britain, especially :P

Besides, Russia is about to be added to our little group. Don't you want to be part of it as well?

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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:08 pm

I already launched, and we're closest. Besides, the Portuguese will gladly give it to you... after we conquer it, and quell the fuck out of the local population. However, I think I already promised to give it to someone else ^_^

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Postby Kargintina » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:08 pm

Japan is gonna be going nuts after the Shogun is forced out the Emperor is instantly going to purge the military officer corps and start up a modern capitalist economy.

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