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Gadrana-Eshil
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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:10 pm

Stadenwick wrote:
Gadrana-Eshil wrote:So... uhm... how long will it take to get from Brazil, to Haiti?

Not as long as going from France, just go quick before he stole it from you!

Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
Well, I want to shore up relations with either Spain, France, or forge an alliance with another European power. I'd give them Haiti, after quelling the hell out of the local population...

ME!ME!ME!

I'll pay you with Prussia money after Austria coalition make him kick the bucket.


Yeah, it was this place. Besides, tomorrow, in my post, we're attacking ^_^

Kargintina wrote:Japan is gonna be going nuts after the Shogun is forced out the Emperor is instantly going to purge the military officer corps and start up a modern capitalist economy.


Yeah, especially under British rule :P

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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:11 pm

@Valloria great plan let me explain my part

I already posted my ORBAT for the attack of Wurttemberg a few pages ago involving 2 corps and my elite troops. The initial attack will be a Camisado an attack when my enemies are supposed to be sleeping, with my elite light infantry quietly taking out My plan is to launch an expected heavily rehearsed and synchronized crossing into the Swabian Jura, the relatively flat plateau in the top, will allow me to shift my forces easily to attack the Wurttemberger army, and drive them into two pockets one with their backs facing Lake Constance, and the other with its backs facing the Neckar River. By that time I expect the Wurttemberg army to have already been broken as an effective fighting force, and that knocks out one of our rivals. Next I plan for a massive hammer and anvil attack on Baden using my troops from the Palatinate area striking one direction, and my main army from Wertterberg striking the other, though for that I do request some of your cavalry detachments for that plan, as that maneuver requires a lot of cavalry to be successful. That should spell the end for Baden and Wurttemberg, as my cav will destroy their wounded regiments with ease before they can regroup.

I would also propose launching a spoiling attack against the confederation's massing troops it eill buy us more time, and prevent us from being attacked on two fronts. As for e French question, I propose using my better light infantry to scout out the formation, while using my mobile line regiments, and your cav as the hidden force. I propose that our forces launch a pincer manuvuer pinning the French along the a Rhine river, though I doubt that it will destroy the French army the losses will be massive enough that the French public will be against the continuation of the war. As for the British if I had to guess I would say that they would use their troops to support the Prussians or help the Dutch, the Dalmatian coast is BRUTAL and would require a lot of training to get used to.

For the Dutch, our resources at that plan would be stretched to the brink I would recommend that we just launch a temporary raid to Dutch dams to flood the Netherlands, crippling whatever infrastructure military of otherwise they have. The Russians can strike the Prussian flank in the east, and by then the Prussians will be finished. Once Prussia is done for then Hanover will be sorrounded, and we hope for a quick surrender. I must warn you, if we allow the war to drag on for too long the British, and French can out produce us.

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Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:13 pm

Gadrana-Eshil wrote:I already launched, and we're closest. Besides, the Portuguese will gladly give it to you... after we conquer it, and quell the fuck out of the local population. However, I think I already promised to give it to someone else ^_^

Then, a few thousand Portugese soldiers will be hanged. Haiti is rightful French land, and I will not have some backwards Sunset Empire stand between me and my sovereign land. I will see your fleets and armies burn before I give up Haiti.
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Gadrana-Eshil
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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:14 pm

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:
Gadrana-Eshil wrote:I already launched, and we're closest. Besides, the Portuguese will gladly give it to you... after we conquer it, and quell the fuck out of the local population. However, I think I already promised to give it to someone else ^_^

Then, a few thousand Portugese soldiers will be hanged. Haiti is rightful French land, and I will not have some backwards Sunset Empire stand between me and my sovereign land. I will see your fleets and armies burn before I give up Haiti.


Then you will be at war >_>

Dude, your empire is less powerful than mine, xD

Portuguese isn't the only Sunset Empire, silly. You're run by morons, and are going to be destroyed soon. You couldn't handle a war on two fronts ^_^

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Postby Democratic Peoples republic of Kelvinsi » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:15 pm

I think we established Haiti is not going to come out of this independent.

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"Even the striving for equality by means of a directed economy can result only in an officially enforced inequality - an authoritarian determination of the status of each individual in the new hierarchical order. "-Friedrich August von Hayek
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Postby Sanabel » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:15 pm

Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:Then, a few thousand Portugese soldiers will be hanged. Haiti is rightful French land, and I will not have some backwards Sunset Empire stand between me and my sovereign land. I will see your fleets and armies burn before I give up Haiti.


Then you will be at war >_>

Dude, your empire is less powerful than mine, xD

Portuguese isn't the only Sunset Empire, silly. You're run by morons, and are going to be destroyed soon. You couldn't handle a war on two fronts ^_^

I dont think you realize how France is the second most powerful empire in Europe.
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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:16 pm

Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:I think we established Haiti is not going to come out of this independent.


Yeah, and we'll probably have to destroy the French :( I just wanted to be friends with them, but their being silly over an island.

Sanabel wrote:
Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
Then you will be at war >_>

Dude, your empire is less powerful than mine, xD

Portuguese isn't the only Sunset Empire, silly. You're run by morons, and are going to be destroyed soon. You couldn't handle a war on two fronts ^_^

I dont think you realize how France is the second most powerful empire in Europe.


Read the OP. Their forces suffered incredibly heavy losses.

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Postby St Georges Territory » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:17 pm

Sanabel wrote:
Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
Then you will be at war >_>

Dude, your empire is less powerful than mine, xD

Portuguese isn't the only Sunset Empire, silly. You're run by morons, and are going to be destroyed soon. You couldn't handle a war on two fronts ^_^

I dont think you realize how France is the second most powerful empire in Europe.


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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:18 pm

And, clearly, Portugal is the least aggressive of the two. We were willing to give up land, but you've become aggressive in the OOC, so I'm thinking of just creating a coalition of Russia, Britain, and Portugal to crush you like an insect.

St Georges Territory wrote:
Sanabel wrote:I dont think you realize how France is the second most powerful empire in Europe.


Let him fight and die, then he'll learn


Clearly you haven't heard of the upcoming triple alliance of three of the greatest nations in the game :P

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Postby St Georges Territory » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:20 pm

Gadrana-Eshil wrote:And, clearly, Portugal is the least aggressive of the two. We were willing to give up land, but you've become aggressive in the OOC, so I'm thinking of just creating a coalition of Russia, Britain, and Portugal to crush you like an insect.

St Georges Territory wrote:
Let him fight and die, then he'll learn


Clearly you haven't heard of the upcoming triple alliance of three of the greatest nations in the game :P


That the other two members haven't agreed to join yet, what are you willing to offer Russia and the UK?
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Kargintina
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Postby Kargintina » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:20 pm

Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
Kargintina wrote:Japan is gonna be going nuts after the Shogun is forced out the Emperor is instantly going to purge the military officer corps and start up a modern capitalist economy.


Yeah, especially under British rule :P

I'm not going to be a British colony, I'm going to be a highly beneficial ally.

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Postby Sanabel » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:20 pm

Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
Democratic peoples republic of Kelvinsi wrote:I think we established Haiti is not going to come out of this independent.


Yeah, and we'll probably have to destroy the French :( I just wanted to be friends with them, but their being silly over an island.

Sanabel wrote:I dont think you realize how France is the second most powerful empire in Europe.


Read the OP. Their forces suffered incredibly heavy losses.

But they are still the second most powerful empire on the continent, and surpass Portugal in population, industry, military size, navy size(no matter what you say), and probably 10 more major factors im forgetting. Portugal vs France in 1836, even with the AH factored in, are not comparable.
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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:21 pm

Kargintina wrote:
Gadrana-Eshil wrote:


Yeah, especially under British rule :P

I'm not going to be a British colony, I'm going to be a highly beneficial ally.


Ooooh. Okay. I misunderstood x3

St Georges Territory wrote:
Gadrana-Eshil wrote:And, clearly, Portugal is the least aggressive of the two. We were willing to give up land, but you've become aggressive in the OOC, so I'm thinking of just creating a coalition of Russia, Britain, and Portugal to crush you like an insect.



Clearly you haven't heard of the upcoming triple alliance of three of the greatest nations in the game :P


That the other two members haven't agreed to join yet, what are you willing to offer Russia and the UK?


Uhm, yes, they have. We've been allies with the UK for... 400 years, now? ((>_> Really? How did you not know that? You look like a fool now)). The Russian player already agreed to ally us. It's been talked about for a while.

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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:22 pm

Sanabel wrote:
Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
Yeah, and we'll probably have to destroy the French :( I just wanted to be friends with them, but their being silly over an island.



Read the OP. Their forces suffered incredibly heavy losses.

But they are still the second most powerful empire on the continent, and surpass Portugal in population, industry, military size, navy size(no matter what you say), and probably 10 more major factors im forgetting. Portugal vs France in 1836, even with the AH factored in, are not comparable.


Yeah, but they're the ones being aggressive :/ I just want to quell the population. Besides, the entirety of the Latino population was enslaved. That includes the Portuguese. We're coming to the rescue, getting the Portuguese (and Spanish) the fuck out of there, and then probably communicating often with the French to avoid a war e_e
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Postby St Georges Territory » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:23 pm

Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
St Georges Territory wrote:
That the other two members haven't agreed to join yet, what are you willing to offer Russia and the UK?


Uhm, yes, they have. We've been allies with the UK for... 400 years, now? ((>_> Really? How did you not know that? You look like a fool now)). The Russian player already agreed to ally us. It's been talked about for a while.


I don't know why you keep insulting people, like I'm sorry I didn't know you had an alliance with Russia, but whatever, France will crush you.
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Postby Sanabel » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:23 pm

Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
Kargintina wrote:I'm not going to be a British colony, I'm going to be a highly beneficial ally.


Ooooh. Okay. I misunderstood x3

St Georges Territory wrote:
That the other two members haven't agreed to join yet, what are you willing to offer Russia and the UK?


Uhm, yes, they have. We've been allies with the UK for... 400 years, now? ((>_> Really? How did you not know that? You look like a fool now)). The Russian player already agreed to ally us. It's been talked about for a while.

Why would thr UK keep that alliance if you are obviously encroaching on their imperial realm and they've verbally displayed discontent with that?
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:25 pm

Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
Kargintina wrote:I'm not going to be a British colony, I'm going to be a highly beneficial ally.


Ooooh. Okay. I misunderstood x3

St Georges Territory wrote:
That the other two members haven't agreed to join yet, what are you willing to offer Russia and the UK?


Uhm, yes, they have. We've been allies with the UK for... 400 years, now? ((>_> Really? How did you not know that? You look like a fool now)). The Russian player already agreed to ally us. It's been talked about for a while.

You have little right to talk down to other people about their knowledge of history, especially now that you called Portugal more powerful than France. Give me a minute, I'll give you a rundown soon enough. Portugal is a joke.
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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:26 pm

St Georges Territory wrote:
Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
Uhm, yes, they have. We've been allies with the UK for... 400 years, now? ((>_> Really? How did you not know that? You look like a fool now)). The Russian player already agreed to ally us. It's been talked about for a while.


I don't know why you keep insulting people, like I'm sorry I didn't know you had an alliance with Russia, but whatever, France will crush you.


If they try, they die. :/ That's the entire point :P

Sanabel wrote:
Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
Ooooh. Okay. I misunderstood x3



Uhm, yes, they have. We've been allies with the UK for... 400 years, now? ((>_> Really? How did you not know that? You look like a fool now)). The Russian player already agreed to ally us. It's been talked about for a while.

Why would thr UK keep that alliance if you are obviously encroaching on their imperial realm and they've verbally displayed discontent with that?


Because of the OP, and because of the fact they can't do shit?

>_> THey haven't expressed any discontent ICly. Therefore, whatever they say OOCly, regarding that matter, and anything else they want from us ICly, is completely irrelevant. The British don't seem to care. Besides, how are we encroaching on their Imperial realm? The only place we'll be is the Arabian continent, in India, and we won't be expanding anywhere else, except Africa, and they don't have shit in Africa. xD Sorry, mate, but your point is nuil, and void.

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:
Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
Ooooh. Okay. I misunderstood x3



Uhm, yes, they have. We've been allies with the UK for... 400 years, now? ((>_> Really? How did you not know that? You look like a fool now)). The Russian player already agreed to ally us. It's been talked about for a while.

You have little right to talk down to other people about their knowledge of history, especially now that you called Portugal more powerful than France. Give me a minute, I'll give you a rundown soon enough. Portugal is a joke.


I've decided to block you for being a dolt. >_> You're bringing IC aggression into the OOC. Besides, I said they look like a fool. That's not talking down. That's stating a fact.

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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:27 pm

Everyone else wanna stop being a child, and stop being so defensive? Yeah? Good.

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Postby St Georges Territory » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:27 pm

Gadrana-Eshil wrote:Everyone else wanna stop being a child, and stop being so defensive? Yeah? Good.


Are you joking? Glass houses.
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Postby Stadenwick » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:28 pm

Sanabel wrote:
Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
Then you will be at war >_>

Dude, your empire is less powerful than mine, xD

Portuguese isn't the only Sunset Empire, silly. You're run by morons, and are going to be destroyed soon. You couldn't handle a war on two fronts ^_^

I dont think you realize how France is the second most powerful empire in Europe.

I think Russia, Ottoman, and Austria would debate you on that, at least on military level. They're all haven't get a kick down by Grande Anarchie, have vast realm as much as France, and their general would probably be more capable than whatever France have nowadays.
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Aye.

So yeah, feel free to call me that from now on.
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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:29 pm

Stadenwick wrote:
Sanabel wrote:I dont think you realize how France is the second most powerful empire in Europe.

I think Russia, Ottoman, and Austria would debate you on that, at least on military level. They're all haven't get a kick down by Grande Anarchie, have vast realm as much as France, and their general would probably be more capable than whatever France have nowadays.


The French are pretty stupid, strategically x3

Maybe you could help us kick the French down, if they try to go to war over nothing. I mean, the player has already proven that he's pretty petty, with his bringing the IC into the OOC ^_^

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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:31 pm

France:

  • Led by morons
  • Degrading allies
  • Subpar strategic capacity
  • Degenerating military
  • Public distaste for the monarch
  • Uprisings still being a very possible event
  • No major colonies (at least according to the map... you have, like, two? They're tiny, man)
  • Will be eclipsed by every other colonial power, including Portugal, in less than a decade (cept for the Spanish)

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Postby Gadrana-Eshil » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:32 pm

Gonna have to do Portugal's, now. God, this is going to be a pain Q_Q

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Postby Stadenwick » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:33 pm

Gadrana-Eshil wrote:
Stadenwick wrote:I think Russia, Ottoman, and Austria would debate you on that, at least on military level. They're all haven't get a kick down by Grande Anarchie, have vast realm as much as France, and their general would probably be more capable than whatever France have nowadays.


The French are pretty stupid, strategically x3

Maybe you could help us kick the French down, if they try to go to war over nothing. I mean, the player has already proven that he's pretty petty, with his bringing the IC into the OOC ^_^

I don't know man, my hands already occupied with Austria, who will going at France sooner than later. Maybe you can sneak it while these two major coalitions battle it out?
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Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:
Stadenwick wrote:Did you just call me wicky?

Aye.

So yeah, feel free to call me that from now on.
Tracian Empire wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:Basically, Stadenwick is RPing as the Russian, Orthodox version of Mormonism and Deseret.

Something in that direction, with some anti-Pope stuff hidden in since he claims to be a new Ecumenical Patriarch.

That's why I don't like heresies. They need to be burned.
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