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Postby Videssos » Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:16 pm

Ularn wrote:
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Name: Danya "Daggers" Astadt

Hoo boy, I'm gonna have to rename the ship MR-656 Sigmund Freud, aren't I? Accepted.

Mirakai wrote:As trans myself, I can safely say that most of the other trans I've met don't mind the use of it. I know a few exceptions, but for the most part, at least on NS, we don't mind it
Videssos wrote:I never really saw trap as a term meant to be insulting, though I do recall seeing one negative interpretation of the term somewhere. All I see it meaning is a term for androgynous/feminine male who can be mistaken for others as female (not getting into trans territory, since it would be an incorrect term to use in that regard).

Fair enough. I can appreciate that plenty of people do use it without an offensive intent but for me personally I think the use of the word itself stems from the same sort of mindsets and attitudes that lead to transphobia and violence against the trans community. Either way, I'm not going to to accept a character that seems primarily about Videssos' personal fetishes.


I suppose that's true about the origins, though it would be nice if such negative connotations could be entirely discarded, if for no other reason than to render the discriminatory mindsets and attitudes you mentioned, all the more impotent and powerless.

I don't just make characters to satiate my own desires and fetishes, you know. :p
My characters being very androgynous is more a bonus thing, rather than the prime cause of them.
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Postby Esternial » Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:19 pm

Okay, so Lucy probably has a "coworker" type of relationship with more crewmembers, save for those that routinely spend time on deck and near the cockpit. Probably has a better relationship with Luke, Ethan and Danya but I dunno to what extent.

Most likely to be colleagues-with-benefits are Ethan and Danya because they're both, to some degree, authoritative figures.

To be honest I hadn't planned on her being sexually active and I'm starting to wonder now how it came up at all.
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Postby Saleon » Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:24 pm

Esternial wrote:Okay, so Lucy probably has a "coworker" type of relationship with more crewmembers, save for those that routinely spend time on deck and near the cockpit. Probably has a better relationship with Luke, Ethan and Danya but I dunno to what extent.

Most likely to be colleagues-with-benefits are Ethan and Danya because they're both, to some degree, authoritative figures.

To be honest I hadn't planned on her being sexually active and I'm starting to wonder now how it came up at all.
It might have been when you defined her as an S who likes being on top...

Danya probably will not be seen being promiscuous often, just as I will not be going for an R-rating (bans seem bad), but she may fade to black only if it motivates the plot, in some sense. The promiscuity is to be, at most, implied. As a warning, I guess.
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Postby Relikai » Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:27 pm

Miyuki could be found staring at a book more than looking at people (except when she's working on them). She maintains a professional relationship, although she doesn't mind the occasional chat when she's not patching people up or keeping an eye on the mental health of the crew.

One could make friends with her by supplying her with orange juice (good for her skin) or a bottle of nice warmed sake.
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Postby Utceforp » Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:28 pm

Esternial wrote:Okay, so Lucy probably has a "coworker" type of relationship with more crewmembers, save for those that routinely spend time on deck and near the cockpit. Probably has a better relationship with Luke, Ethan and Danya but I dunno to what extent.

Most likely to be colleagues-with-benefits are Ethan and Danya because they're both, to some degree, authoritative figures.

To be honest I hadn't planned on her being sexually active and I'm starting to wonder now how it came up at all.

To be fair, you did describe her as a "top" in your app.
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Postby Saleon » Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:30 pm

Relikai wrote:Miyuki could be found staring at a book more than looking at people (except when she's working on them). She maintains a professional relationship, although she doesn't mind the occasional chat when she's not patching people up or keeping an eye on the mental health of the crew.

One could make friends with her by supplying her with orange juice (good for her skin) or a bottle of nice warmed sake.
Captain may bother her to a drink at one point.

Danya will be a difficult ship for anybody. They will have to work hard on it if they intend to see a ship with her.
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Postby Esternial » Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:34 pm

Utceforp wrote:
Esternial wrote:Okay, so Lucy probably has a "coworker" type of relationship with more crewmembers, save for those that routinely spend time on deck and near the cockpit. Probably has a better relationship with Luke, Ethan and Danya but I dunno to what extent.

Most likely to be colleagues-with-benefits are Ethan and Danya because they're both, to some degree, authoritative figures.

To be honest I hadn't planned on her being sexually active and I'm starting to wonder now how it came up at all.

To be fair, you did describe her as a "top" in your app.

Oh right.

Should not have done that.

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Postby Relikai » Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:36 pm

Saleon wrote:
Relikai wrote:Miyuki could be found staring at a book more than looking at people (except when she's working on them). She maintains a professional relationship, although she doesn't mind the occasional chat when she's not patching people up or keeping an eye on the mental health of the crew.

One could make friends with her by supplying her with orange juice (good for her skin) or a bottle of nice warmed sake.
Captain may bother her to a drink at one point.

Danya will be a difficult ship for anybody. They will have to work hard on it if they intend to see a ship with her.


Could work, Miyuki might be slightly more socially open to females, than males who leer/lust after her cos bio.
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Postby Saleon » Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:42 pm

Esternial wrote:
Utceforp wrote:To be fair, you did describe her as a "top" in your app.

Oh right.

Should not have done that.
Don't forget that you labelled her as an S-ka. Don't worry, you don't have to have her be... um... can't think of a way to describe it in a positive, not sexist way. She could easily just be like that with one person after she hits it off pretty well. Either way, don't feel constricted. (realizes that sal is talking about this with a mentor, somehow feels out of place). Have a cookie.
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Postby Esternial » Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:43 pm

Saleon wrote:
Esternial wrote:Okay, so Lucy probably has a "coworker" type of relationship with more crewmembers, save for those that routinely spend time on deck and near the cockpit. Probably has a better relationship with Luke, Ethan and Danya but I dunno to what extent.

Most likely to be colleagues-with-benefits are Ethan and Danya because they're both, to some degree, authoritative figures.

To be honest I hadn't planned on her being sexually active and I'm starting to wonder now how it came up at all.
It might have been when you defined her as an S who likes being on top...

Danya probably will not be seen being promiscuous often, just as I will not be going for an R-rating (bans seem bad), but she may fade to black only if it motivates the plot, in some sense. The promiscuity is to be, at most, implied. As a warning, I guess.

In my opinion it's better if that aspect is just implied rather that leading up to it and then "fading to black", which isn't that subtle. Frisky stuff can always take place during timeskips and such. A post can start with two characters exiting the janitor's closet or stuff like that and maybe having a casual flirt on the workfloor.

That said, I agree. Plot-wise there's not much reason beyond adding an extra level of 'humanity' to the characters by hinting at them expressing their...ehh...urges. Also interactions might be extra fun between the crewmembers if these relationships are public knowledge, but frankly there's already enough of a dynamic with all these different personalities.

Saleon wrote:
Esternial wrote:Oh right.

Should not have done that.
Don't forget that you labelled her as an S-ka. Don't worry, you don't have to have her be... um... can't think of a way to describe it in a positive, not sexist way. She could easily just be like that with one person after she hits it off pretty well. Either way, don't feel constricted. (realizes that sal is talking about this with a mentor, somehow feels out of place). Have a cookie.
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Ha, don't worry. Mentor or not, everyone can use some feedback from time-to-time. Planning these things does kind of take the organic aspect out of it. Might be better to just RP and see how our characters interact first before making solid plans on "how they should interact".
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Postby Cerrania » Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:54 pm

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Utceforp wrote:They're all criminals, so there might be more than a few situations where they might want to use easy-to-remember identifiers while at the same time concealing their identities. I never planned for Ethan's nickname to be used much outside of said situations, though.

Not really criminal-y nicknames though. We've got the intimidating "Story", the harrowing "Toolbox" and whatever a "Boffin" is.

Need more badass in this joint. "Havoc", "Hazard", "Flak", etc.

I mean, I'd say "Jarhead" is fairly intimidating.
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Postby Ularn » Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:00 pm

Esternial wrote:
Utceforp wrote:They're all criminals, so there might be more than a few situations where they might want to use easy-to-remember identifiers while at the same time concealing their identities. I never planned for Ethan's nickname to be used much outside of said situations, though.

Not really criminal-y nicknames though. We've got the intimidating "Story", the harrowing "Toolbox" and whatever a "Boffin" is.

Need more badass in this joint. "Havoc", "Hazard", "Flak", etc.

So fun fact, "Flak" is actually the nickname of Freyja Lachlan - my go-to tomboyish engineer character who I would have used in this RP if I weren't the one who's running it. Maybe she'll sneak into the story somewhere as a background NPC.
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Postby Relikai » Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:01 pm

Updated Miyuki's profile, more text, more pics.
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Postby Cerrania » Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:03 pm

Ularn wrote:
Esternial wrote:Not really criminal-y nicknames though. We've got the intimidating "Story", the harrowing "Toolbox" and whatever a "Boffin" is.

Need more badass in this joint. "Havoc", "Hazard", "Flak", etc.

So fun fact, "Flak" is actually the nickname of Freyja Lachlan - my go-to tomboyish engineer character who I would have used in this RP if I weren't the one who's running it. Maybe she'll sneak into the story somewhere as a background NPC.

Do we have a full roster?
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Postby Utceforp » Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:10 pm

Cerrania wrote:
Ularn wrote:So fun fact, "Flak" is actually the nickname of Freyja Lachlan - my go-to tomboyish engineer character who I would have used in this RP if I weren't the one who's running it. Maybe she'll sneak into the story somewhere as a background NPC.

Do we have a full roster?

I think so. Ularn mentioned setting up the IC soon.
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Postby Ularn » Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:15 pm

Cerrania wrote:
Ularn wrote:So fun fact, "Flak" is actually the nickname of Freyja Lachlan - my go-to tomboyish engineer character who I would have used in this RP if I weren't the one who's running it. Maybe she'll sneak into the story somewhere as a background NPC.

Do we have a full roster?

Pretty much. I'm still open to accepting one or two more players if their apps are good but now I'm really thinking about getting the IC up and running - hopefully within the next 36 hours. Honestly, I though it would take more than a day to fill the roster and I'd have more like three or four days to vet applicants and prep the IC. You guys all giving me great apps up front has me in a tiny case of oh-shit panic mode :P
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Postby Argentumurbem » Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:58 am

Boffin is WW2 British military slang for tech experts who devise new equipment (radio tower detectors, Alan Turing etc), but now generally just a positive word for scientific or engineer specialist but back in the day was meant to show contempt to thems who be betters than uz.

Demeter doesn't like it because a) it has vaguely returned to its original roots as military slang for tech experts who put themselves above the rest of people and are given an easier life than regular soldiers because of the work, and b) sounds very much like coffin/Puffin which links to a cryptic final message one of her previous crewmates gave her before passing away. (I will expand on all this in the RP)
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Postby Krytonus » Tue Mar 29, 2016 2:51 am

Callum is just called Toolbox because he always carries a metric shit tonne of useless shit with him.
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Postby Ularn » Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:09 am

Krytonus wrote:Callum is just called Toolbox because he always carries a metric shit tonne of useless shit with him.

As someone who lugs a twenty kilo toolkit around a building site all day as part of their job, believe me when I assure you that none of that shit is useless. 8)
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Postby Relikai » Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:21 am

Krytonus wrote:Callum is just called Toolbox because he always carries a metric shit tonne of useless shit with him.


The toolbox I carry can carry out light construction work, computer assembly, and interestingly, combat engineer field work.
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Postby Ularn » Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:34 am

Relikai wrote:
Krytonus wrote:Callum is just called Toolbox because he always carries a metric shit tonne of useless shit with him.


The toolbox I carry can carry out light construction work, computer assembly, and interestingly, combat engineer field work.

*Really wants to know what Relikai does for a living now*
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Postby Krytonus » Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:00 am

Ularn wrote:
Krytonus wrote:Callum is just called Toolbox because he always carries a metric shit tonne of useless shit with him.

As someone who lugs a twenty kilo toolkit around a building site all day as part of their job, believe me when I assure you that none of that shit is useless. 8)


Well of course, but to the crew I imagine they just think he's mad.
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Postby Relikai » Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:02 am

Krytonus wrote:
Ularn wrote:As someone who lugs a twenty kilo toolkit around a building site all day as part of their job, believe me when I assure you that none of that shit is useless. 8)


Well of course, but to the crew I imagine they just think he's mad.


When something happens on the ship, the more the tools, no matter what kind, the better.
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Postby Krytonus » Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:04 am

Relikai wrote:
Krytonus wrote:
Well of course, but to the crew I imagine they just think he's mad.


When something happens on the ship, the more the tools, no matter what kind, the better.


And that's why you should always bring protection.
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Postby Ularn » Tue Mar 29, 2016 5:30 am

Relikai wrote:
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Well of course, but to the crew I imagine they just think he's mad.


When something happens on the ship, the more the tools, no matter what kind, the better.

The really fun part is when you find non-conventional uses for a tool or tools, like "I can't reach that handle from here, but if I tighten my shifter around it, and then smack it with my hammer a bit, I can still get that valve to close without having to demolish that wall we already framed around it."

I'm only talking about a carpenter's toolkit though. The auto mechanics I know, for example, tend to have toolchests taller than I am, filled with more gear than you'd ever think it's possible to use, and yet every single one of them gets used. In the above scenario, a mechanic probably has a spanner specially built for reaching valves that some moron has already built so as to be inaccessible by hand. There might even be a tool whose entire purpose is tightening a specific nut on a specific model of vehicle. Also, some of those toolchests have built-in sound systems.

Basically, around 50% of any tradesman's work is trying to adapt to whatever the fuckwit that came before you has done. The other 50% is fucking it up for the next guy.
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