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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:25 pm

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The Sacramento Republican Debate
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Welcome to the first Republican Presidential Debate. We are here at with Sacramento's MSNCB network in coordination with Facebook. We thank our host, California State University, and the Californian Republican Party. The candidates will join us soon and they will answer all your questions. They will be asked about ISIS's growth to even the recent capture of drug lord Santiago and it's implications. If you would like to submit a question for a candidate specificity, please tell us on the MSNCB Facebook page. We will be right back to the Debate after this short break.

This is the first Republican Presidential Debate for Washington US Political RP. Note that only who signed up in the OOC and announced their republican presidential campaign can talk here. Otherwise, keep to the IC.


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1- The Speaker is King. If you consider OP's and Co-OP's are god, than the Speaker is a King. What the speaker sais, you obey. Only I or a Co-OP gets to decide if the speaker abuses (but Arana the current speaker, is an experienced RP'er so I hope not that such problems will happen).

2- IC doesn't mean misbehavior. This a chamber, there are plenty of debates and stupid people who don't want to listen to you. So a little crude language in debates is tolerable. Do not take this rule as an excuse to say racist or any other kind of offensive swearing. It's still PG-13. To be sure, keep swearing to a minimum.[/quote]
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:26 pm

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The Republican Debate: 5 Things to Know
From who won to what's next.

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By Carla Igor

The first Republican Debate took place yesterday night in Sacramento, California. It filled expectations as multiple issues were brought up sparking new controversies and even a meme of Senator Breckenridge's face. It ended it what many described an attempt to undermine candidates in what had been a peaceful debate. Many candidates were also missing such as Senator Benetiz and Governor Williams and even Senator Dimitri was forced to leave early as he had other events already planned for early the next day. So what happened that everyone needs to know:

1. Was the recent capture of the drug lord brought up?
It was. The moderators Ethan Raymond and Pamela Caneen asked the question within the first minutes of the debate as an immigration question. Nearly all the candidates seemed to propose the idea that legal immigration was great but illegal immigration needed to be stopped and those who were illegal needed to be apprehended. Senator Dimitri even targeted the idea of 'sanctuary cities' with Senators Breckenridge and Cross mentioned their attempts to end them in Massachuests which earned applause from the audience.

2. What do the candidates think of ISIS?
Nearly all the candidates supported action to prevent ISIS and recommended early action to stop their growth while the US could. Senator Dimitri and Breckenridge did seem to have an agreement on whether to get support from Assad, the current Syrian dictator. Co-operation between NATO and Arab allies in the region was still stressed by every candidate though.

3. Was Breckenridge's open 'gayness' discussed?
It was and many particularly on Facebook were surprised that he defended his position on it so well. Viewers supported him and only seemed to add to his growing poll numbers. Senator Cross was also allowed to respond and he stated that he defended Breckenridge's right to choose whatever orientation he wanted. The moderators did seem to avoid asking it to Senator Dimitri has his rather far right stance has given him the reputation of being anti-gay. Senator Haven has yet to acknowledge gay rights.

4. Were gun rights talk about?
They were but only to Senator Haven and Dimitri. Haven proposed background checks and banning automatic weapons but proposed no further change to the 2nd amendments. Senator Dimitri echoed his views but seemed to avoid any mention of banning certain types of weapon but did include the status of migrants - a key part of his answer considering his supporters and background.

5. How did they say they'll fix the economy?
Hah - get ready because this question was a crazy. It began with Senator Breckenridge who immediately brought up the issue of educating veterans and giving them the jobs they deserve. Senator Cross went against this and claimed that low tax rates were the way to go. Senator Haven also seemed to support this method but placed himself in a place of debate as he proposed tariffs in his administration. This quickly deteriorated as Senators Haven, Cross, and even Breckenridge began to argue ignoring the moderators and their attempts to calm the situation. Haven and Cross attacked each other on what the American economy was based on as Breckenridge called out Senator Haven for using words to confuse and trick Americans. The interuption was the last structured question of the debate and sent the media into a frenzy.

All in all, the debate was a great way to began the race. The Iowa Caucus is also approaching quickly with many undecided voters making up their minds as the days grow nearer. Many Republican officials remarked at how all the candidates seemed to be taking more liberal stances and something that has led to fears that Governor Williams and Senator Dimitri, both far right candidates, may dominate the primaries. But as for the debate, the winner was unofficially declared as Senator Cross as he showed the greatest responses and was able to defend his position the clearest among all the candidates on the stage. His victory is also shown in the first national poll too. Multiple candidates who participated in the junior debate before the prime time one declared their dropping out today as well. The race seems to be narrowing down while intensifying. The first Democratic Debate is also expected in the coming days.
1st National Republican Gallup Poll
Senator Cross - 22%
Senator Haven - 17%
Senator Breckenridge - 17%
Senator Dimitri - 15%
Senator Benitez - 14%
Governor Williams - 11%
Undecided - 4%
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Postby Vaquas » Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:33 pm

"Introducing Senator Alexander Breckenridge of Massachusetts."

The crowd goes wild, as The Senator is extremely popular in California.
He walks on stage waving and smiling before taking a tall and presidential stance at his podium.
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Postby The Enclave Government » Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:35 pm

Introducing, Senator from Florida, Jayson Haven

Haven was met with raucus applause from the audience - his moderate stance on social issues and pro-immigration stance blended into a strong pull with the Californian electorate.
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Postby Kosovo12345 » Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:37 pm

Introducing Senator Dimitri form Texas!
Dimitri walked to the stage and waved. There was applause but not as loud as he would have gotten in Texas or in the deep south. The Republicans here are more liberal then in Texas he thought.
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Postby Neo-Chicago » Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:37 pm

Senator Pat Cross took a drink from a hot cup of tea in a Styrofoam container, which he had brought along to give him some extra energy for the debate. He discarded the empty container, throwing it into the nearby trashcan, while his opponents were called one by one onto the stage. He ran a comb through his hair, and then swiftly returned it to his suit jacket pocket. The Senator had purchased this suit specifically for the debate, and had gotten it fitted. He wore a red tie with a small design on it, and pinned to his lapel was the American flag. Finally, the debate moderator introduced him.

"Senator Patrick Cross, also of Massachusetts!" the moderator shouted, which was his cue to walk on stage, and one he wouldn't embarrass himself by missing. The crowd cheered for him, and while it wasn't as wild as Breckenridge's because of a smaller number of supporters in this part of the state, it was hard to tell because of how devoted his supporters were. "WE LOVE YOU PAT!" one screamed, as Senator Cross strode to his podium, waving to the audience.
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:55 pm

The moderator, Ethan Raymond, finally said the last candidate. "Introducing Senator Benitez..." When noone walked on stage, Raymond tried again. "Introducing Senator Benitez....*laughing nervously*...Senator Benitez" A crew-member came up to him and whispered something. Raymond spoke again "Senator Benitez will not be joining us today and has decided to not participate." Groans could be heard from the crowd.

The second moderator, Pamela Careen, began to speak:

"Either way, welcome back! Our candidates have come on to the stage and we can begin. We have, in order of left to right: Senator Patrick Cross | Senator Dimitri | Senator Jayson Haven | and Senator Alexander Breckenridge.

Now to begin, I ask our candidates to please give a brief three minute introduction to discuss what they believe and anything they wish to tell our audience first. We will start with Senator Cross and will go to the right. Begin Senator.
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Postby Neo-Chicago » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:01 pm

"Thanks Ethan, and thank you too, Pamela. Now, California's a long walk from Massachusetts, let me tell you, I wish I'd driven instead. Seriously though, I can understand why you're not too familiar with me. I try to use common sense in all of my decisions in the Senate. For instance, just yesterday, I pointed out a major flaw in a bill that would create a new defense force, but the details of that are classified, and I don't want to bore you guys anyway. I've been a consistent conservative all my life, from participating in George H.W. Bush's campaign, to where I'm standing right here, today. I will always and have always stood my ground, when I knew that I was right, and I can guarantee that I will continue to do so for the rest of my life. I'm running for president to build a better America than the one that's been effectively dismantled by our current president, and I want to start by bringing construction jobs, waste management jobs, inspector jobs, and day-to-day maintenance jobs right here in California, through safe, efficient, clean nuclear power! That's all for right now, but that's just the beginning of what I'll do as president."
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:03 pm

*Applause* "Thank you Senator Cross - To you now Senator Dimitri."
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Postby Kosovo12345 » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:07 pm

"Thank you. Now, I dont want to bore you all with some long opening sentence. So here is what i want to say, I was born to 2 immigrants. They came here for the American Dream and they found it. But recently, I have seen the American Dream die for so many and so many people lose their jobs, from the East Coast to here, California. Thats why I am running for President of the United States of America. I want to rebuild the American Dream and set this nation on the right course again as the current president took us off it!"
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:11 pm

*Applause starts up - grows loudly* Again, thank you Senator - Now to you Senator Haven
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Postby The Enclave Government » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:13 pm

"Thank you, everyone. To be honest, California's alot like Florida. Palm trees on every street, hot sun, and above all, the mixing of America and the rest of the World. The City of Angels and Miami can compare, across two coasts, both cities owing their prestige and greatness on the backs of hardworking Americans. That's what everyone is, in this country, they're Americans. Whether you speak espanol or English, whether you eat empanadas or you swear by steak, you're an American, and you're owed representation in Washington. That's one of the central pillars of my campaign - speaking for everyone, not just those with money or extreme views who have hijacked politics. George Washington has warned us about partisan politics, about how parties are bad for democracy, and his warning has come to pass - we have spent the last 8 years in gridlock. Elect a President, America, able to make change and work on a common sense base with Washington. That's what this campaign is about. Thank you, that's all."
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:15 pm

*Applause (slightly louder than the two previous candidates)* "Thank you Senator - Lastly, to you now Senator Breckenridge."
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Postby Vaquas » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:19 pm

"I stand on this stage tonight to present a vision.

This vision is not filled with the false promises of progressivism, nor the staunch fact denial of the hard right. It is filled with an America that has healed, and resumed its position as the global superpower it was always meant to be.

The republican party, as well as the world as a whole, is changing rapidly, and the only way to keep up is to invest in a leader who truly understands the American people, and who truly understands the issues that impact our nation today.

A leader who can make change and repair our relations with foreign nations such as Israel, who we have shamefully turned our back on under the current administration.

A leader that can recognize and put an end to the ever increasing drug issues that plague this nation, as well as the unfair condoning of Illegal immigration by the radical left.

A leader who will push not only for a lower national debt, but an increased sense of national pride, that has been wrongfully stamped out over the last few years.

And I strongly believe with all of my heart and soul, that that leader is me."
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:25 pm

Raymond: "Thank you Senator. Now let us begin the true debate. One of the major issues in California right now is, as you all know, the growing drug trade and immigration. So, I would like to start with you Senator Haven. You remarked that California and Florida are very similar which they are. One difference though is immigration which is something Florida suffers but not as harshly as border states such as Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and now even Louisiana. How would you as President tackle immigration as it seems something you have yet to really confront as a senator? You have three minutes."
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Postby The Enclave Government » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:28 pm

Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:Raymond: "Thank you Senator. Now let us begin the true debate. One of the major issues in California right now is, as you all know, the growing drug trade and immigration. So, I would like to start with you Senator Haven. You remarked that California and Florida are very similar which they are. One difference though is immigration which is something Florida suffers but not as harshly as border states such as Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and now even Louisiana. How would you as President tackle immigration as it seems something you have yet to really confront as a senator? You have three minutes."

''Well, sir, that's a very complicated question. As we all know, I favor making legal immigration easier and hightening the limit of immigrants we allow in each year. However, I have no tolerance for illegal immigration. I have the utmost respect for everyone who legally comes to this country, but less so for people who break the law to do so. Therefore, i'd set up plans to highten border security and work with the Mexican Government on that front. I believe there should be a pathway for currently residing illegal immigrants to citizenship. Not an easy one, to be sure, but one that makes sure that everyone we do grant ''amnesty'' to has a worthwhile skill or talent that America needs. We shouldn't be rewarding breaking the law, but we should be making sure we have access to talented individuals. That's my stance."
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:35 pm

Careen: *Nods head* "Now Senator Dimitri. You yourself was a child of immigrants so this issue may be something you have encountered before. Your claim that they found the American Dream and you did as well. Do you think that these illegal immigrants who have come or have yet to come, can find the American Dream? If so, will you defend their right to do so? Three minutes Senator.
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Postby Kosovo12345 » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:42 pm

"Well, there is your problem. Illegal Immigrants. Now, I remember when I was young, my parents talking about illegal immigrants. They said they gave us legal immigrants a bad name, and that people just put immigrants and illegal immigrants together. People still give me and my parents looks when we save we are immigrants and hate illegal immigrants. This is because my parents came here legally by a due process! We need to stop illegal immigrants from coming inside this country. We simply dont know who the hell they are! I also believe we need to close down the idea of "sanctuary cities". Illegal immigrants need to be taught a lesson, and that is, if you break the law, the law will come down hard on you! That is the Texas way and that soon, that will be the USA way!"
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:48 pm

Raymond: "Ahh...You mentioned sanctuary cities Senator Dimitri. One state that has multiple sanctuary cities to protect illegal immigrants is Massachusetts. They currently has six such cities: Cambridge, Somerville, Chelsea, Orleans, Northampton and Springfield (real life fact). We go to you Senator Cross first. What do you think of sanctuary cities? Do you believe that such cities are only aiding the immigration problem occurring? Three minutes again.
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Postby Neo-Chicago » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:57 pm

"Yes, I definitely feel that a big part of the problem are these so-called 'Sanctuary Cities'. I'm well-aware of the problem in my state, but the fact of the matter is, and this is something I would rarely say, we are only going to solve this problem if we solve it on a federal level. I'm usually in favor of state's rights, but there are countless other cities around the country that serve the same purpose. It's a bit ridiculous that our president actually has to say 'Follow the law', but we're at a time where the current administration has so little respect that not only do our enemies walk all over us, but our own citizens, state governments, and police departments choose to ignore the law of the land. We need a strong leader, like myself, who will lay down the law and, furthermore, will be prepared to talk tough to anyone who wants to disobey him. I personally think that any person on this stage would be better than the current democratic field, however, and I have a great deal of respect for almost everyone on this stage. I've tried to crack down on sanctuary cities in the Senate in the past, but the current political climate is that any talk against immigrants, even if they're illegal, makes you a racist. I will make sure that the states understand they are to do whatever is necessary to stop these sanctuary cities, or they will face the consequences, on the very first day of my administration."
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Postby Federal States of Xathuecia » Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:59 pm

Raymond: "What do you have to say to this Senator Breckenridge? Do you agree with your counterpart in his views that sanctuary cities are part of the problem not the solution?
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Postby Vaquas » Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:12 pm

Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:Raymond: "What do you have to say to this Senator Breckenridge? Do you agree with your counterpart in his views that sanctuary cities are part of the problem not the solution?


"I certainly believe that sanctuary cities contribute to the massive problem of illegal immigration that exists in our nation today, with individual states being obligated to deal with these cities, preferably without prompting from the federal government. The condoning of illegal immigration is absolutely ridiculous in any sense, and sanctuary cities are most definitely a part of the problem."

"I am a strong proponent of increased border security, and am willing to cut federal funding to these sanctuary cities in order to cover the costs without raising taxes on a single American.
I am not, however, without a heart as the Democrats would have you believe.
I would support a path to legalization for illegal immigrants currently living in this nation on the date that I am sworn into office. To allow citizenship would be a disservice to legal immigrants to the United States such as my Husband and Senator Dimitri's parents, but it is also impractical to provide no pathway to legalization, as many of these people are hardworking and simply attempting to provide for their families."
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Careen: "Changing to foreign policy now, ISIS continues to make leaps in their territorial gains and while they are suffering defeats by the Iraqi army and American bombers, how can we truly stop ISIS? Senator Gary Millard has proposed legislation to increase the fight against ISIS. Many on this stage including Senator Cross have demonstrated their opposition to the bill. What you would have done instead? How do you think your opponents are fairing on the bill?"
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Postby The Enclave Government » Wed Mar 16, 2016 5:25 pm

Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:Careen: "Changing to foreign policy now, ISIS continues to make leaps in their territorial gains and while they are suffering defeats by the Iraqi army and American bombers, how can we truly stop ISIS? Senator Gary Millard has proposed legislation to increase the fight against ISIS. Many on this stage including Senator Cross have demonstrated their opposition to the bill. What you would have done instead? How do you think your opponents are fairing on the bill?"

"To whom is this question directed?"
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Federal States of Xathuecia wrote:Careen: "Changing to foreign policy now, ISIS continues to make leaps in their territorial gains and while they are suffering defeats by the Iraqi army and American bombers, how can we truly stop ISIS? Senator Gary Millard has proposed legislation to increase the fight against ISIS. Many on this stage including Senator Cross have demonstrated their opposition to the bill. What you would have done instead? How do you think your opponents are fairing on the bill?"

"To whom is this question directed?"


Careen: "I am sorry if that was not clear - It is directed at Senator Cross."
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