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The Enclave Government
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Postby The Enclave Government » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:17 pm

Vaquas wrote:
Neo-Chicago wrote:Nope, sorry, you see, I was created by Native American witch doctors out of clay and sticks, and so I've always been in the United States.

(In case you could not tell, since you couldn't when you read my other post, I'm being sarcastic. No shit we all come from somewhere, duh.)


I wish there was a way to like forum posts.

Sig them.
Ifreann wrote:Natural law is what people call it when they want to believe that their personal views are actually the deep truth of the universe.

Resident of South Carolina. Apparently I'm a democratic socialist. Social liberal, fiscal liberal, foreign policy neocon. Pro America / Europe / Western Civilization / Secular Government / Regulated Capitalism. Neutral with regards to Russia / Communism. Anti China / Unrestricted Capitalism / Isolationism.

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Hillary Clinton 2016-2024
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Postby Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:17 pm

Fuck,I wanted to be 1000th
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Napkiraly wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Cruz has been having an affair with Trump, can confirm.

They're making their erections great again.

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The Enclave Government
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Postby The Enclave Government » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:20 pm

Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 wrote:Fuck,I wanted to be 1000th

I've been reading your posts and this just angered me so much, so here goes.

Sander's PAC isn't a corporation. It doesn't make money, its one and only purpose is to campaign for Sanders. You need one to receive donations and to spend the money, without one you're capped at how much money the candidate can individually spend - which is no where enough to fund a modern campaign, so please do remove that from your signature, it's just plain wrong.

Had to get that off my chest.
Ifreann wrote:Natural law is what people call it when they want to believe that their personal views are actually the deep truth of the universe.

Resident of South Carolina. Apparently I'm a democratic socialist. Social liberal, fiscal liberal, foreign policy neocon. Pro America / Europe / Western Civilization / Secular Government / Regulated Capitalism. Neutral with regards to Russia / Communism. Anti China / Unrestricted Capitalism / Isolationism.

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Hillary Clinton 2016-2024
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Postby Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:22 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:
Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 wrote:Fuck,I wanted to be 1000th

I've been reading your posts and this just angered me so much, so here goes.

Sander's PAC isn't a corporation. It doesn't make money, its one and only purpose is to campaign for Sanders. You need one to receive donations and to spend the money, without one you're capped at how much money the candidate can individually spend - which is no where enough to fund a modern campaign, so please do remove that from your signature, it's just plain wrong.

Had to get that off my chest.

Last time I checked,Alphabet Inc. wasn't a super pac
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[spoiler]
Napkiraly wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Cruz has been having an affair with Trump, can confirm.

They're making their erections great again.

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Utopian Islands
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Postby Utopian Islands » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:23 pm

Screw a Super PAC, what we need is 2Pac.
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The Enclave Government
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Postby The Enclave Government » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:25 pm

Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 wrote:
The Enclave Government wrote:I've been reading your posts and this just angered me so much, so here goes.

Sander's PAC isn't a corporation. It doesn't make money, its one and only purpose is to campaign for Sanders. You need one to receive donations and to spend the money, without one you're capped at how much money the candidate can individually spend - which is no where enough to fund a modern campaign, so please do remove that from your signature, it's just plain wrong.

Had to get that off my chest.

Last time I checked,Alphabet Inc. wasn't a super pac

Alphabet Inc donated $132,228 to his campaign. That is miniscule, and you misunderstand how that works.

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/cont ... N00000528&

This table lists the top donors to this candidate in the 2016 cycle. The money came from the organizations' PACs; their individual members, employees or owners; and those individuals' immediate families. At the federal level, the organizations themselves did not donate, as they are prohibited by law from doing so. Organization totals include subsidiaries and affiliates.
Ifreann wrote:Natural law is what people call it when they want to believe that their personal views are actually the deep truth of the universe.

Resident of South Carolina. Apparently I'm a democratic socialist. Social liberal, fiscal liberal, foreign policy neocon. Pro America / Europe / Western Civilization / Secular Government / Regulated Capitalism. Neutral with regards to Russia / Communism. Anti China / Unrestricted Capitalism / Isolationism.

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The Enclave Government
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Postby The Enclave Government » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:25 pm

Utopian Islands wrote:Screw a Super PAC, what we need is 2Pac.

He's in Serbia removing the Kebab scourge.
Ifreann wrote:Natural law is what people call it when they want to believe that their personal views are actually the deep truth of the universe.

Resident of South Carolina. Apparently I'm a democratic socialist. Social liberal, fiscal liberal, foreign policy neocon. Pro America / Europe / Western Civilization / Secular Government / Regulated Capitalism. Neutral with regards to Russia / Communism. Anti China / Unrestricted Capitalism / Isolationism.

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Indian Empire
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Postby Indian Empire » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:26 pm

Southern Babylonia wrote:
Indian Empire wrote:
Senator Goran and I have very similar campaign stances, and it is kind of the only thing that can trip my campaign. In Fact, me and Senator Goran have agreed on both debate topics so far, it appears. We will both be fighting for the same supporters.

Aye. We'll see what Senator Spence has to say about all this.
Also, same about the running mates.


Cool 8) We could have a Nudeau/Goran Ticket for the Democrats (or Goran/Nudeau, though I hope the first one is true, no offense to Goran, of course)
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Hillary Clinton 2016-2024
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Postby Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:29 pm

Or we can not care and have none or all of the candidates in our tickets cabinet
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Napkiraly wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Cruz has been having an affair with Trump, can confirm.

They're making their erections great again.

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Collatis
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Postby Collatis » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:32 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:Alphabet Inc donated $132,228 to his campaign. That is miniscule, and you misunderstand how that works.

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/cont ... N00000528&

This table lists the top donors to this candidate in the 2016 cycle. The money came from the organizations' PACs; their individual members, employees or owners; and those individuals' immediate families. At the federal level, the organizations themselves did not donate, as they are prohibited by law from doing so. Organization totals include subsidiaries and affiliates.

Meanwhile Hillary Clinton's top donation is at $7,037,800 :p
Southern Babylonia wrote:I see. Well if there's anything you wanna discuss issues-wise, you can either TG me or maybe we can organise an IC meeting.

*nods*

Social Democrat | Humanist | Progressive | Internationalist | New Dealer

PRO: social democracy, internationalism, progressivism, democracy,
republicanism, human rights, democratic socialism, Keynesianism,
EU, NATO, two-state solution, Democratic Party, Bernie Sanders
CON: conservatism, authoritarianism, totalitarianism, neoliberalism,
death penalty, Marxism-Leninism, laissez faire, reaction, fascism,
antisemitism, isolationism, Republican Party, Donald Trump


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Southern Babylonia
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Postby Southern Babylonia » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:33 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:
Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 wrote:Last time I checked,Alphabet Inc. wasn't a super pac

Alphabet Inc donated $132,228 to his campaign. That is miniscule, and you misunderstand how that works.

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/cont ... N00000528&

This table lists the top donors to this candidate in the 2016 cycle. The money came from the organizations' PACs; their individual members, employees or owners; and those individuals' immediate families. At the federal level, the organizations themselves did not donate, as they are prohibited by law from doing so. Organization totals include subsidiaries and affiliates.

I, too, now wish that we could like forum posts.
Impeach the Senate, Legalise Cap and Trade, Prorogations are theft. JACK LAYTON 2011

Political Compass:
Economic Left/Right: -8.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.08
Alignment: Neutral Good
Yeh: Collectivism, Market Socialism, Environmentalism, Two-State Solution, QUILTBAG rights, abortion rights, permaculture, multiculturalism, CBC, public healthcare, NDP (Canada), SNP.
Meh: most religions, atheism, globalisation, gun rights.
Neh: Corporatocracy, neoliberalism, Maoism, bigotry, evangelism, militant anti-theism, fascism, pollution, Netanyahu, Hamas, tar sands, monoculturalism.
Need help with French? Je peux aider!
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Indian Empire
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Postby Indian Empire » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:33 pm

Mr. X, is this question directed at me?

EDIT: Nevermind, I figured it out.
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Collatis
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Postby Collatis » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:36 pm

Question: Is Barack Obama the current President in this scenario?

Southern Babylonia wrote:
The Enclave Government wrote:Alphabet Inc donated $132,228 to his campaign. That is miniscule, and you misunderstand how that works.

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/cont ... N00000528&

This table lists the top donors to this candidate in the 2016 cycle. The money came from the organizations' PACs; their individual members, employees or owners; and those individuals' immediate families. At the federal level, the organizations themselves did not donate, as they are prohibited by law from doing so. Organization totals include subsidiaries and affiliates.

I, too, now wish that we could like forum posts.

Indeed

Social Democrat | Humanist | Progressive | Internationalist | New Dealer

PRO: social democracy, internationalism, progressivism, democracy,
republicanism, human rights, democratic socialism, Keynesianism,
EU, NATO, two-state solution, Democratic Party, Bernie Sanders
CON: conservatism, authoritarianism, totalitarianism, neoliberalism,
death penalty, Marxism-Leninism, laissez faire, reaction, fascism,
antisemitism, isolationism, Republican Party, Donald Trump


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The Enclave Government
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Founded: Jan 24, 2014
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Postby The Enclave Government » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:37 pm

Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 wrote:Or we can not care and have none or all of the candidates in our tickets cabinet

You've failed to respond to my points, which I take as graceful acceptance. Please do remove the remark from your sig.
Ifreann wrote:Natural law is what people call it when they want to believe that their personal views are actually the deep truth of the universe.

Resident of South Carolina. Apparently I'm a democratic socialist. Social liberal, fiscal liberal, foreign policy neocon. Pro America / Europe / Western Civilization / Secular Government / Regulated Capitalism. Neutral with regards to Russia / Communism. Anti China / Unrestricted Capitalism / Isolationism.

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The Enclave Government
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Postby The Enclave Government » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:37 pm

Southern Babylonia wrote:
The Enclave Government wrote:Alphabet Inc donated $132,228 to his campaign. That is miniscule, and you misunderstand how that works.

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/cont ... N00000528&

This table lists the top donors to this candidate in the 2016 cycle. The money came from the organizations' PACs; their individual members, employees or owners; and those individuals' immediate families. At the federal level, the organizations themselves did not donate, as they are prohibited by law from doing so. Organization totals include subsidiaries and affiliates.

I, too, now wish that we could like forum posts.

Signatures, my friend. Signatures :)
Ifreann wrote:Natural law is what people call it when they want to believe that their personal views are actually the deep truth of the universe.

Resident of South Carolina. Apparently I'm a democratic socialist. Social liberal, fiscal liberal, foreign policy neocon. Pro America / Europe / Western Civilization / Secular Government / Regulated Capitalism. Neutral with regards to Russia / Communism. Anti China / Unrestricted Capitalism / Isolationism.

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Southern Babylonia
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Postby Southern Babylonia » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:39 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:
Southern Babylonia wrote:I, too, now wish that we could like forum posts.

Signatures, my friend. Signatures :)

I would, but the character limit hates me. :(
Impeach the Senate, Legalise Cap and Trade, Prorogations are theft. JACK LAYTON 2011

Political Compass:
Economic Left/Right: -8.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.08
Alignment: Neutral Good
Yeh: Collectivism, Market Socialism, Environmentalism, Two-State Solution, QUILTBAG rights, abortion rights, permaculture, multiculturalism, CBC, public healthcare, NDP (Canada), SNP.
Meh: most religions, atheism, globalisation, gun rights.
Neh: Corporatocracy, neoliberalism, Maoism, bigotry, evangelism, militant anti-theism, fascism, pollution, Netanyahu, Hamas, tar sands, monoculturalism.
Need help with French? Je peux aider!
Proud Nova Scotian.

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Southern Babylonia
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Postby Southern Babylonia » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:40 pm

Collatis wrote:Question: Is Barack Obama the current President in this scenario?

Southern Babylonia wrote:I, too, now wish that we could like forum posts.

Indeed

I think he is. One Republican referred to him at their debate, though not by name.
Impeach the Senate, Legalise Cap and Trade, Prorogations are theft. JACK LAYTON 2011

Political Compass:
Economic Left/Right: -8.63
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.08
Alignment: Neutral Good
Yeh: Collectivism, Market Socialism, Environmentalism, Two-State Solution, QUILTBAG rights, abortion rights, permaculture, multiculturalism, CBC, public healthcare, NDP (Canada), SNP.
Meh: most religions, atheism, globalisation, gun rights.
Neh: Corporatocracy, neoliberalism, Maoism, bigotry, evangelism, militant anti-theism, fascism, pollution, Netanyahu, Hamas, tar sands, monoculturalism.
Need help with French? Je peux aider!
Proud Nova Scotian.

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Indian Empire
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Founded: Mar 29, 2013
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Postby Indian Empire » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:43 pm

Senator Wells' Comments on the Middle East should grab media attention. :?
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Hillary Clinton 2016-2024
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Founded: Nov 06, 2015
Democratic Socialists

Postby Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:44 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:
Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 wrote:Or we can not care and have none or all of the candidates in our tickets cabinet

You've failed to respond to my points, which I take as graceful acceptance. Please do remove the remark from your sig.

I don't live on the OOC
I'm in the democratic debate for a reason.and no,I will not remove a true remark from my signature,and I read your rebuttal,special pleading is never the answer,sorry,but it isn't.
NS quotes I like
[spoiler]
Napkiraly wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Cruz has been having an affair with Trump, can confirm.

They're making their erections great again.

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The Enclave Government
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Founded: Jan 24, 2014
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Postby The Enclave Government » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:44 pm

Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 wrote:Or we can not care and have none or all of the candidates in our tickets cabinet

You also misunderstand Federal election law - there are strict limits on the amount of money a person can individually donate to a PAC/candidate to limit the power of money in politics - but then it's just donated under the guise of corporations and it's results to the same end, which makes the 28th amendment necessary.
Ifreann wrote:Natural law is what people call it when they want to believe that their personal views are actually the deep truth of the universe.

Resident of South Carolina. Apparently I'm a democratic socialist. Social liberal, fiscal liberal, foreign policy neocon. Pro America / Europe / Western Civilization / Secular Government / Regulated Capitalism. Neutral with regards to Russia / Communism. Anti China / Unrestricted Capitalism / Isolationism.

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The Enclave Government
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Postby The Enclave Government » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:45 pm

Hillary Clinton 2016-2024 wrote:
The Enclave Government wrote:You've failed to respond to my points, which I take as graceful acceptance. Please do remove the remark from your sig.

I don't live on the OOC
I'm in the democratic debate for a reason.and no,I will not remove a true remark from my signature,and I read your rebuttal,special pleading is never the answer,sorry,but it isn't.

It's not true, it's been proven false. How have I advocated special pleading at all? What even *IS* special pleading?

:blink:
Ifreann wrote:Natural law is what people call it when they want to believe that their personal views are actually the deep truth of the universe.

Resident of South Carolina. Apparently I'm a democratic socialist. Social liberal, fiscal liberal, foreign policy neocon. Pro America / Europe / Western Civilization / Secular Government / Regulated Capitalism. Neutral with regards to Russia / Communism. Anti China / Unrestricted Capitalism / Isolationism.

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The Jaclean Empire
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Postby The Jaclean Empire » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:47 pm

Running for prez... very late and definitely going to lose but it's gonna be fun.
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Indian Empire
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Postby Indian Empire » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:48 pm

The Jaclean empire wrote:Running for prez... very late and definitely going to lose but it's gonna be fun.


Who is your character?
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Neo-Chicago
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Postby Neo-Chicago » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:48 pm

Collatis wrote:Question: Is Barack Obama the current President in this scenario?

Southern Babylonia wrote:I, too, now wish that we could like forum posts.

Indeed

No he is not, the only politicians who are the same as in real life are very minor, like, selectmen.
If I'm not online, I'm probably playing something on my Xbox One, so bear with me.
Pro: Second Amendment, Patriotism, Space Exploration, Freedom, Life, America, Justice, Science, Conservatism, Economic Freedom, Industry, Capitalism, Libertarianism, Establishmentarianism, Manifest Destiny, 1950s America.
Anti: Leftism, Socialism, Religious Fundamentalism, Extreme Feminism, Censorship, Political Correctness, Fascism, Excessive Gun Control, Subsidies, Religious Extremism, Affirmative Action, Authoritarianism, Political Correctness.
I am a 14-year-old male with an ENTP-A personality, and I am a self-described Neo-Conservative. Live in Indiana, I'm an atheist, and I believe in the existence of extraterrestrials.

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The Jaclean Empire
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Postby The Jaclean Empire » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:51 pm

Indian Empire wrote:
The Jaclean empire wrote:Running for prez... very late and definitely going to lose but it's gonna be fun.


Who is your character?

Jack Scalise: senator for Missouri and chairman of the senate committee on armed services.
A limited Monarchy with high constitutional and civil rights and little economic regulation

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