2016: Alternative Fiction [MT][OOC][OPEN][Semi-closed]

[Relikai]

This seems to be spiraling out of control.

I'll simply wait for Lenyo.

They're the best judges for tech. Still waiting on Old-T anyway. I have given apologies if he has full rights to Christianised Japan's culture, naming conventions and themes. However, it's interesting to see how the Government and Military Ideas and Concept of Sakurai could be similar to Japan's, and even when my inventory follows more of global types rather than a fully Japanese-themed type.

[Gadrana-Eshil]

Let me rephrase that. So I don't explode. I am not made for stress. Stress = bad for Gadrana. Gadrana will freak the hell out at the drop of a hat e_e I'm already having an anxiety attack now

[Gadrana-Eshil]

Full Nation Name: The Federation of Gadrana-Eshil
Majority/Official Culture: Gadran-Eshilian & French, and that of each state (aside from SOME of the territories)
Territorial Core (Capitol State): #80 (State of Gadrana-Eshil) | #82 (State of Gadrana-Eshil) | #85 (Gadrana-Eshil) | #99 (Gadrana-Eshil)
Territorial Claims (States): #81 (Co-Principality of Arcine) | #79 (Republic of Darnos) | #78 (Kingdom of Tars) | #77 (Kingdom of Tars)
Territorial Claims (Territories & Dependencies): (Industrial Territory of Erionos) #79
Capitol State: (Entirety of Federation) Gadrana-Eshil
Capital City: (Gadrana-Eshil) La souveraineté (Sovereignty) (Center of nation)
Capital City: (Arcine) The City of Palos (South of nation)
Capital City: (Darnos) The City of Waynoch (West of nation)
Capital City: (Tars) The City of Vylo (Northeast of nation)
Capital City: (Erionos) The Factory-City of Paylance (East of nation)
Population: 323,211,165 Citizens | 52,311,162 Slaves

Government Type: Semi-Presidential Federation of Independent, Semi-Independent, and Dependent States & Territories w/Central Administrative Control
Government Description: The Federation of Gadrana-Eshil has an immensely unique type of government. The Federation is comprised of several different states, each acquired either through war, or diplomacy and politics. Each of these states have their own government, but final, administrative power is left with the Capitol State. The Capitol State receives a certain percentage of everything from funding, military officers, ships, income (including taxes, and everything else), and more from each of the other states, while allowing what is, normally, a relatively high amount of autonomy in each state. Control of the Federation, and “Overall Law” is one of the powers that the Capitol State expresses, as well as the parliament having its choice of government, and expressing a relatively high amount of power themselves. , and is comprised of several different states, each with their own, individual government, with final administrative power being left with the Capitol State.

What this means is that the Federation is made up of one, primary sovereign state, that expresses rule over the other states in the Federation, while allowing them to continue to function. Being Semi-Presidential, Gadrana-Eshil, the Capitol State, has a parliament made up of the National Assembly, and a Senate. There is a President, who is head of state, and deals with security, and foreign affairs, and then the Prime Minister, who deals with domestic and economic agendas. The President, who is elected by citizens of Gadrana-Eshil, can run the nation for upwards of 10 years, and he chooses the Prime Minister that works with himself or herself. The Prime Minister is chosen by the President, but, because the parliament has its choice of government, the Prime Minister may have to choose someone in the opposite party. Freedom plays a somewhat important role in the nation, but slavery exists because of the prison population, which serves as the slave force for however long their sentence is, and because of the fact that slavery is a proud, and long-held tradition of the Federation. The Assembly maintains the ability to dismiss the government, which means the majority of the Assembly determines the choice of government. The Senate has limits, and, when the two chambers disagree, the National Assembly has final say. The government is comprised of individuals who represent the general populace, while the rulers of each nation commit to the Federation Council, and meet to lead, and organize the Federation, while aiding to command it as a whole, though full power is left mostly in the power of the Prime Minister, President, and parliament of Gadrana-Eshil.
Government Focus: Gadrana-Eshil has many different focuses, but has a healthy focus on the economy, as it believes that a strong economy would lead every other sector of the nation to be strong as well.

Head of State: (Entirety of the Federation) President of the Capitol Eric Lafayette
Head of Government : (Entirety of the Federation) Prime Minister of the Capitol State Lana Dart
Head of State: (Capitol State of Gadrana-Eshil) President of the Capitol Eric Lafayette
Head of Government: (Capitol State of Gadrana-Eshil) Prime Minister of the Capitol State Lana Dart]
Head of State: (Co-Principality of Arcine) Prince Awititi Arcine & The Current President of the Capitol (Eric Lafayette)
Head of Government: (Co-Principality of Arcine) (Co-Principality of Arcine) Prince Awititi Arcine & The Current President of the Capitol (Eric Lafayette)
Head of State: (Republic of Darnos) President Isaiah de Lacy
Head of Government: (Republic of Darnos) President Isaiah de Lacy
Head of State: (Kingdom of Tars) King Paul II
Head of Government: (Kingdom of Tars) King Paul II
Head of State: (Industrial Territory of Erionos) The Parliament
Head of Government: (Industrial Territory of Erionos) The Parliament

Ideological Type: Mixed/Hybrid Political & Military Imperialism
Ideological Description: The ideology of the Federation is to expand the Federation through diplomatic, and political means, as well as military expansion, and also to exand via economic means.

Majority/State Religion: Logicism
Religious Description: Logicism is an Abrahamic religion that flawlessly incorporates logic, and the sciences into the teachings of Christ, and often uses science to explain how things came into being, with the core belief being that God used things such as evolution to shape the world.

Economic Ideologies: Mixed Economy
Major Imports/Exports: Foodstuffs, Medicine, Toys, Chemicals, Clothing, Plastics, Fabrics, Office Supplies, School Supplies, and pretty things (everything from art, to desk accessories), Agricultural Commodities (wine, grappa, high quality rum, luxury grapes, and fruits), Petroleum Products, Metals & Industrial Products, Precious Metals, Uranium, Precious Gems, Electronics, Defense Products, Computer Software, Computer Hardware, Labor
Economic Description: The Federation is a powerful economy, being ranked in the world’s top 3. They have 42, out of 500 of the world’s most powerful companies, rank third in the Fortune Global 500, and have a relatively unique currency system. It is a mixed economy, combining high private enterprise, with a substantial amount of state enterprise, and government intervention.
Currency:

The primary currency of the Federation is gold, silver, and copper specie, of vary values each, with every one of them being high in purity, and acting as something to fall back on should economic hardship come around the corner. The currency is known as the GE Presh. They enable significantly higher amounts of international trade using physical currency, while other currencies such as gems (I.E. diamonds, sapphires, emeralds), act as another form of currency for international, and national trade, with these gems being minted by the Federation government. Each of the currencies, coming in bars, and bullion, and special gems, and in marked bags, are marked, cut, and weighed, to price them with a face value that is updated every 3 years, while each store in the nation is outfitted with the equipment to measure, and properly price the precious metal and precious gem currency so that they may be used at full value. There is a specialized, periodically minted platinum currency, as well, and some of the more valuable currencies such as gold, and diamond are also periodically minted, instead of minted constantly.

The official currencies see methods taken to insure that inflation becomes next to impossible, with some of these methods including the reduction of the amount minted daily, only minting at certain times, or when certain amounts of a material are received, keeping track of the amount of currency in existence, keeping a stash of this money, implanting specialized chips that can be separated from the currency in the smelting process (in the metal currencies) that keep counterfeiting from occurring, and even a fourth currency being created, while also offering alternative currencies, having a complex trade and barter system, using stocks and gold, silver, and other metal stocks, and more.

This fourth currency is a more standard, domestic-focused currency that uses zinc coins, and a cotton-linen mixture banknotes, with this currency being known as the GE Stansh, and it’s used to measure the value of gold, silver, and other things, and as the primary currency on paper.

Some of these alternative currencies are a digital currency that is similar to BitCoin, and has a dynamic system of its own, with it being accepted in dozens of nations, while special kinds of oil, and petroleum, including those that have been processed to the point they don’t cause pollution and thus are extremely valuable are used as currency by the states, and wealthier citizens of the Federation.

The complex trade and barter system has dynamically impacted prices, depending on the region trading occurs in, and it sees frequent use in many different circumstances, such as when two people have something that the other wants. The trade and barter system is the most complex on the entire planet, and possibly the most complex to ever exist, as prices change dynamically, seasons may change value, and because it can be used internationally, and in business matters. The Federation trade and barter system has been developing throughout the decades, via legislation, economic development, and even rules, with it acting as an alternative to official currency. Apart from physical items, things included in the trade and barter system include information, patents, and knowledge, with these being of immense import in the development of the nation. The trade & barter system was made more important when it was officially recognized, and has helped to turn the states into power houses.

The immensely high natural resources of Gadrana-Eshil, the property it owns outside of its borders, and its focus on economy means that they are constantly seeking new things to turn into a currency, and this section will be updated as time continues on.

Army Strengths:

• Immensely well-funded
• Advanced, technologically
• Extremely high quality soldiers

Army Weakness:

• The possibility of inner conflict hasn’t been completely extinguished
• The Joint Corporate Security Force isn’t commanded by the Federation
• Somewhat small (I mean, for population size, anyways)

Naval Strengths:

• About average in ship number
• Advanced, technologically, with many ships being heavily automated, and requiring lower amounts of officers, and railguns seeing the first active use in certain ships
• About average quality naval officers

Naval Weakness:

• About average in ship number
• Has a lower number of officers
• About average quality naval officers

Air Force Strengths:

• Higher quality pilots, and high technology across the board

Airforce Weakness:

• Lower numbers than that of other nations

Further Military Description: The military currently has a budget that equates to 4.5% of the total GDP. It has several branches, in each military force, with several military forces existing. There is the Federation Military, which acts as the military of Gadrana-Eshil (Which has 355,000 soldiers, without the addition of the 15,750 from Arcine, the 53,900 from Darnos, and the 77,000 from Tars, which brings the total number of military officers to 501,650 for the Federation Military), and is comprised of 35% of the forces of each of the other military forces, while there is also the militaries of Arcine (which has 45,000, total, without the subtraction of 35%), Darnos (which has 154,000 total, without the subtraction of 35%), and Tars (which has 220,000 total, without the subtraction of 35%).

The military is exploring non-nuclear WMDs, despite having a nuclear deterrence force in the Federation military, such as chemical and biological WMDs, and even kinetic kill WMDs, while also exploring the possibility of an orbital weapons platform. The military also uses the substances used in WMDs in smaller-scale weapons, smaller in scale even than strategic nuclear weapons, that are used for having more power than conventional weapons, but they aren’t powerful enough to be considered WMDs (so, instead of multiple conventional bombs, one nuclear bomb of the same size as a conventional bomb will deliver a high power attack, that is SUPER small compared to normal weaponry), but is also exploring the possibility of increasing the power of conventional explosives, and doesn’t usually use these due to the high price (Just because I have them, doesn’t mean I will use the WMDs… I mean, I probably won’t just use them willy nilly, since they are the last resort).

The military offers commissions to foreign nations, with the two operating Federation Foreign Legions, which act as a type of military force that pledge allegiance not to Gadrana-Eshil, the Federation, and their home nation, but instead to their legion. The Joint Corporate Security Force is another major player in the military, with it operating internationally, and it acts as the equivalent of a military for corporations, and is incredibly well-funded (but isn’t allowed to have WMDs, and can’t have anything stronger than a light cruiser) but isn’t under the direct control of the Supreme Commander, the acting Head of State of the Capitol. In each military force, there is the Army, the Navy, the Airforce, and, in the Federal Armed Forces, there is the Federal Strategic Nuclear Deterrence force. Each military officer is regularly screened, polygraphed, and has intense background checks performed on them, to see if there is even a chance of them being a traitor, or the possibility of this individual turning on the Federation.

It is also protected by, and can make full use of the Watchman Mass Analytics System

Why I should have WINS: We have the technology to do almost anything. Whether or not we want to is a different matter entirely. If WINS existed IRL? There would be no personal freedoms, because certain people would use it wrong. I'm not one of those people. We would know your location at any time. Subdermally implanted RFID chips, and trackers exist, GPS trackers CAN be placed in cars, matrices for identification are wide-spread, and have advanced to the point that they can identify human emotion, so faces, insignias, and colors are child's play, automated systems for running credit cards continuously would be easy to make. If you have issues with this, don't, because you're wrong. Just like you were IN the wrong when you ripped off an idea. Besides, when leveraging hundreds of thousands of square meters of server space, and computing power, combined with an advanced automated system, it's going to create a pretty freaking powerful computer. Hence... WINS. The technology exists now. RIGHT NOW. The issue? We haven't combined it, otherwise something like WINS would exist... if there were crazed control freaks leading our governments, I mean (and there are, in some nations).

National Goals: To increase the size of the military, while maintaining high quality | To see higher university education numbers | To educate the masses more completely | To become a bastion of science, culture, art, and technology | To expand the Federation, and gain more territories | To become self-sustaining, agriculturally | To acquire allies | To improve the economy | To create a green energy grid
National Issues: There are some issues with cultural differences, and, while not too major, they can cause issues | There are countless “small” issues, like you see in the US, that make the nation less than the imperfect you would want to see with a government (I.E. all governments are imperfect, but some have more issues than others) | There is a problem with immigrants, a lack of education among immigrants, and high unemployment among immigrants | They are highly reliant on other nations for their foodstuffs, with over 75% of food being imported, and the other 25% being comprised, mostly, of high quality commodity products that they export
National Ambition/Aspirations: To create a region that happens to be a utopia, prolong the life of nature, and create a technological paradise

Pre-Gadrana-Eshil History:

Coming Soon

Gadrana-Eshil History:

Detailed, Completed History Coming Soon

Merger of Gadrana & Eshil

The Federation of Gadrana-Eshil began not when the Federation was created, but when the two independent states of Gadrana and Eshil merged into one, single state after having come to the conclusion that, together, they could be one of the world’s premier superpowers. The merging of the nations had been planned before they actually merged, with the 1899 being the year that they would merge together. It was the year of lights, and innovation, the year of love, and epic romance, and the year when the world believed that things couldn’t possibly get better, and Gadrana-Eshil was going to enjoy it fully.

In preparation for the new era, the two nations merged at the beginning of the year of 1899, and all throughout the year the new, combined nation would be organizing their government to better prepare themselves. The last decade had been made up entirely of planning, and if everything was to go smoothly, that would mean that the new nation would have to follow the plan to the word, because, to be honest, is was a good plan. Gadrana-Eshil was an amazing nation, an epic romance, and with new things implemented, including the creation of a semi-presidential republic, it rise up to become more than average.

The Federation hadn’t even been created yet, and wouldn’t be for a while, but, silently, a small group that saw Gadrana-Eshil ruling over countless nations, as a massive empire would rise up, and inspire endless generations. Slowly, their rule would creep, and, slowly, they would inspire these generations, but the most important of these events would be when these individuals were capable of taking over Gadrana-Eshil. They were silent, the Cabal was, but they would expand into other nations as well, secretly, going by many names, with these roots leading to the first modern intelligence agency of Gadrana-Eshil in the future (though the Cabal would stay intact, continuing operations, a new face of theirs would pop up, inspiring fear and cautiousness throughout the region).

Coming Soon

Development of WMDs

Creation of the Federation

Era of Economic Restructuring

Growth of the Federation

Comparison Points – Political: 2
Comparison Points – Ideology: N/A
Comparison Points – Economy: 2
Comparison Points – Military: 3
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX): 7/10

And there. My brain died when I was writing the history, so I wasn't able to write any more >_>

[Old Tyrannia]

If your intention was to create a nation culturally tied to Togoku, I would completely support that. It makes sense that countries in the same region would have historical and cultural ties. But the polite thing to do, however, would have been to approach me first ; then we could have put together a shared history that made sense and might have enriched the world we're all building together. Instead you took my idea and ran with it without a scrap of acknowledgement.

I was not deciding that there would be exact historical ties between the Two, no exact ties except for a trace of cultural similarities like the British and Revolutionaries during the Revolutionary War, unless of course you are claiming that Togoku-inspired culture, or Japanese-themed cultures, are specifically yours and thus under your name and ownership.

If that is so, I formally apologise, for I do not know that you do hold complete ownership over the themes, cultures, blueprints and everything tied to Christianised Japan in this RP.

The revolutionaries in the civil war were British colonists who rebelled against the British Crown, so yeah, the ties there ran pretty strong. And yes, I do consider Togoku to be my intellectual property, because I made it and I worked pretty hard on my application. I get that Sakurai is a different nation, but my application was made first and you made a nation with a very similar idea behind it. If I were in your position, I would either have went with a different nation idea or approached the earlier applicant first to ask if they minded my doing something similar but with a different take. To me, that would have been the polite way to go about things.

[Relikai]

I was not deciding that there would be exact historical ties between the Two, no exact ties except for a trace of cultural similarities like the British and Revolutionaries during the Revolutionary War, unless of course you are claiming that Togoku-inspired culture, or Japanese-themed cultures, are specifically yours and thus under your name and ownership.

If that is so, I formally apologise, for I do not know that you do hold complete ownership over the themes, cultures, blueprints and everything tied to Christianised Japan in this RP.

The revolutionaries in the civil war were British colonists who rebelled against the British Crown, so yeah, the ties there ran pretty strong. And yes, I do consider Togoku to be my intellectual property, because I made it and I worked pretty hard on my application. I get that Sakurai is a different nation, but my application was made first and you made a nation with a very similar idea behind it. If I were in your position, I would either have went with a different nation idea or approached the earlier applicant first to ask if they minded my doing something similar but with a different take. To me, that would have been the polite way to go about things.

So in other words as clarification, every RP which has Togoku in it, no other nation is allowed to follow a Japanese-themed nation?

Like, express rights and claims to an entire culture of Japan and her similarities, all locked in under your name, even if one refers to Wikia or something?

[Gadrana-Eshil]

The revolutionaries in the civil war were British colonists who rebelled against the British Crown, so yeah, the ties there ran pretty strong. And yes, I do consider Togoku to be my intellectual property, because I made it and I worked pretty hard on my application. I get that Sakurai is a different nation, but my application was made first and you made a nation with a very similar idea behind it. If I were in your position, I would either have went with a different nation idea or approached the earlier applicant first to ask if they minded my doing something similar but with a different take. To me, that would have been the polite way to go about things.

So in other words as clarification, every RP which has Togoku in it, no other nation is allowed to follow a Japanese-themed nation?

The issue isn't being Japan-themed, it's that it's way too similar to Togoku, and even shares the same roots. These roots are VERY specific. It names the who, what, why, where, what kind, what nationality. I'd say that's plagiarism.

[Tracian Empire]

Lenyo accepted Sakurai too.

So, I'd say we wait for him before doing anything else.

[Gadrana-Eshil]

Lenyo accepted Sakurai too.

So, I'd say we wait for him before doing anything else.

Okay. I'm just kind of disappointed that the second rule wasn't followed :/ Time for anxiety meds!

[Tracian Empire]

Lenyo accepted Sakurai too.

So, I'd say we wait for him before doing anything else.

Okay. I'm just kind of disappointed that the second rule wasn't followed :/ Time for anxiety meds!

Second rule?

[Gadrana-Eshil]

Okay. I'm just kind of disappointed that the second rule wasn't followed :/ Time for anxiety meds!

Second rule?

Second ground rule regarding originality. It also states that alternative points must be, well, alternative, meaning that two nations that share the same alternative points (IE. the revolutionaries in the civil war being British colonists who rebelled against the British Crown) shouldn't be allowed to exist.

[Tracian Empire]

Second rule?

Second ground rule regarding originality. It also states that alternative points must be, well, alternative, meaning that two nations that share the same alternative points (IE. the revolutionaries in the civil war being British colonists who rebelled against the British Crown) shouldn't be allowed to exist.

His nation, in everything else except from the origin point of a Christian Japan, is original.

The CO-OP himself accepted it, so until further information, we can assume that it's not breaking any rules.

[Relikai]

Anyway, for all to read and enjoy.

Name and Culture - Follows Japan.

Government and Military - Follows Singapore.

History - Follows Belka of Ace-Combat Strangereal Universe.

Military Doctrine - Combination of imagination and RL examples - Offensive Defence

Military Equipment - More European and American with the splattering of Singapore Tech and the Japanese Heli-Carriers, and the most expensive tank in the world - the K2 Black Panther.

Still, is the whole nation still a rip off?

[Arvenia]

Second ground rule regarding originality. It also states that alternative points must be, well, alternative, meaning that two nations that share the same alternative points (IE. the revolutionaries in the civil war being British colonists who rebelled against the British Crown) shouldn't be allowed to exist.

His nation, in everything else except from the origin point of a Christian Japan, is original.

The CO-OP himself accepted it, so until further information, we can assume that it's not breaking any rules.

Mine is Nazi Germany, except the head of state is a monarch and the head of government is a dictator. Germany was unified in 1871 while Helga was unified in 1860. There wasn't a World War in this world and the republican government in Helga was known as the Branfurt Republic based in Branfurt (based on Munich, as Donich was based on Berlin).

[Old Tyrannia]

The revolutionaries in the civil war were British colonists who rebelled against the British Crown, so yeah, the ties there ran pretty strong. And yes, I do consider Togoku to be my intellectual property, because I made it and I worked pretty hard on my application. I get that Sakurai is a different nation, but my application was made first and you made a nation with a very similar idea behind it. If I were in your position, I would either have went with a different nation idea or approached the earlier applicant first to ask if they minded my doing something similar but with a different take. To me, that would have been the polite way to go about things.

So in other words as clarification, every RP which has Togoku in it, no other nation is allowed to follow a Japanese-themed nation?

Like, express rights and claims to an entire culture of Japan and her similarities, all locked in under your name, even if one refers to Wikia or something?

That is not what I said and you know it. The way you're acting is petulant. I don't own Japan, and I doubt the idea of a Christian Japan has never been done before in any NS RP. But it's a unique enough idea that it's suspicious when two people use the said theme in the same RP. And yes, I admit, I like to make my nations relatively unique in RPs like this; in fact I abandoned my original idea for this RP because it was similar to several other people's apps. So yes, it is frustrating that you've decided to use my idea. I would have been content, however, if you'd privately spoken to me about it first. I would have been content if you'd at least apologised when I brought it up. Instead you go on the defensive and become hostile.

[Gadrana-Eshil]

Anyway, for all to read and enjoy.

Name and Culture - Follows Japan.

Government and Military - Follows Singapore.

History - Follows Belka of Ace-Combat Strangereal Universe.

Military Doctrine - Combination of imagination and RL examples - Offensive Defence

Military Equipment - More European and American with the splattering of Singapore Tech and the Japanese Heli-Carriers, and the most expensive tank in the world - the K2 Black Panther.

Still, is the whole nation still a rip off?

No, just how the nation formed and its general roots (which is EXACTLY the same as the other nation. I mean EXACTLY the same >_> Like, so identical that they could have been the same nation, at one point, and just separated at the PoD), and the military equipment, as stated before, is pretty similar, and two similarities are baaaad....

[Gadrana-Eshil]

So in other words as clarification, every RP which has Togoku in it, no other nation is allowed to follow a Japanese-themed nation?

Like, express rights and claims to an entire culture of Japan and her similarities, all locked in under your name, even if one refers to Wikia or something?

That is not what I said and you know it. The way you're acting is petulant. I don't own Japan, and I doubt the idea of a Christian Japan has never been done before in any NS RP. But it's a unique enough idea that it's suspicious when two people use the said theme in the same RP. And yes, I admit, I like to make my nations relatively unique in RPs like this; in fact I abandoned my original idea for this RP because it was similar to several other people's apps. So yes, it is frustrating that you've decided to use my idea. I would have been content, however, if you'd privately spoken to me about it first. I would have been content if you'd at least apologised when I brought it up. Instead you go on the defensive and become hostile.

You're like I am, when I want to use big words, am calm, and don't explode on people... :3 You are now me. *Merges with Tyrannia.* I am now you. We are one.

[Relikai]

So in other words as clarification, every RP which has Togoku in it, no other nation is allowed to follow a Japanese-themed nation?

Like, express rights and claims to an entire culture of Japan and her similarities, all locked in under your name, even if one refers to Wikia or something?

That is not what I said and you know it. The way you're acting is petulant. I don't own Japan, and I doubt the idea of a Christian Japan has never been done before in any NS RP. But it's a unique enough idea that it's suspicious when two people use the said theme in the same RP. And yes, I admit, I like to make my nations relatively unique in RPs like this; in fact I abandoned my original idea for this RP because it was similar to several other people's apps. So yes, it is frustrating that you've decided to use my idea. I would have been content, however, if you'd privately spoken to me about it first. I would have been content if you'd at least apologised when I brought it up. Instead you go on the defensive and become hostile.

You know I'd find it extremely odd when you mentioned that the Entirety is a Rip-Off. I placed my inspirations above, are they considered a rip-off still, especially when there's plenty of differences?

When you claim that my whole nation is a rip off from yours without specifics, what are you implying without clarification? The WHOLE? That not a shred of originality was added and everything was templated from your nation?

Everything? Heck, that accusation itself is an insult if I might say for the defensiveness.

And it seems that you have brushed aside the apology given without acknowledgement.

Edit - so there's an issue with the history huh. Alright, will continue to backdate to 50AD. Honestly haven't had time to read thru every nation's history, someone who claimed to have owned the entirety of the continent with first dibs can easily accuse us of plagarism or historical interference next.

Edit 2.0
- Also changing culture to cancel greviences. Post-War Japan - 1990 Republican Singapore Hybrid.

[Tracian Empire]

Anyway, for all to read and enjoy.

Name and Culture - Follows Japan.

Government and Military - Follows Singapore.

History - Follows Belka of Ace-Combat Strangereal Universe.

Military Doctrine - Combination of imagination and RL examples - Offensive Defence

Military Equipment - More European and American with the splattering of Singapore Tech and the Japanese Heli-Carriers, and the most expensive tank in the world - the K2 Black Panther.

Still, is the whole nation still a rip off?

No, just how the nation formed and its general roots (which is EXACTLY the same as the other nation. I mean EXACTLY the same >_> Like, so identical that they could have been the same nation, at one point, and just separated at the PoD), and the military equipment, as stated before, is pretty similar, and two similarities are baaaad....

Are we all reading different apps?

Their history have almost nothing in common. Togoku seems to be going Japan, with that heavenly old Royal Family thing, while Sakurai's history is being presented only from 1500's.

And they're completely different except from the Christian Japan basis.

[Tracian Empire]

And my nation is...


It's complicated. I mainly mixed up Romania, the Byzantine Empire, the Roman Empire I used in Oscal's last RP, my NS nation, and the Federal concept of another nation I roleplay.

[Gadrana-Eshil]

Ooooh, I see what's going on here. They're in one of those cliques, that don't realize they have serious issues, and always try to make excuses regarding everything, and gang up against people!

[Old Tyrannia]

That is not what I said and you know it. The way you're acting is petulant. I don't own Japan, and I doubt the idea of a Christian Japan has never been done before in any NS RP. But it's a unique enough idea that it's suspicious when two people use the said theme in the same RP. And yes, I admit, I like to make my nations relatively unique in RPs like this; in fact I abandoned my original idea for this RP because it was similar to several other people's apps. So yes, it is frustrating that you've decided to use my idea. I would have been content, however, if you'd privately spoken to me about it first. I would have been content if you'd at least apologised when I brought it up. Instead you go on the defensive and become hostile.

You know I'd find it extremely odd when you mentioned that the Entirety is a Rip-Off. I placed my inspirations above, are they considered a rip-off still, especially when there's plenty of differences?

When you claim that my whole nation is a rip off from yours without specifics, what are you implying without clarification? The WHOLE? That not a shred of originality was added and everything was templated from your nation?

Everything? Heck, that accusation itself is an insult if I might say for the defensiveness.

And it seems that you have brushed aside the apology given without acknowledgement.

Edit - so there's an issue with the history huh. Alright, will continue to backdate to 50AD. Honestly haven't had time to read thru every nation's history, someone who claimed to have owned the entirety of the continent with first dibs can easily accuse us of plagarism or historical interference next.

Your only "apology" was totally lacking in sincerity and I never claimed every aspect of your nation was copied from mine. I said the whole idea of a Christianised Japanese culture was copied from mine. If it was genuinely a complete coincidence, then I'd still expect some sort of acknowledgement from you that my nation was created using that idea first. I can see, and I appreciate, that you've done your own thing with Sakurai. It's just hurtful that you don't seem to have considered, or even care, whether I would want an additional nation based on the same idea as mine in this RP.

[Old Tyrannia]

Ooooh, I see what's going on here. They're in one of those cliques, that don't realize they have serious issues, and always try to make excuses regarding everything, and gang up against people!

Please don't say things like that. I don't want to raise tensions any more than they have already been raised. I'd still like to cooperate with everyone here if at all possible.

[Gadrana-Eshil]

I'm Co-OPing in another RP for the first time, and I need an explanation as to why you can't land and attack with your military against a sovereign nation on the first turn, and why rehearsals for war are different than actually preparing and mobilizing, as well as the four major steps for most nations: Approval for War, Preparation & Mobilization, Launching, and Attack. I also need reasons why a nation would probably intercept attacking military forces, and a battle would ensue before the actual attack began. Could someone provide this for me? I know we've had some issues here, but I'm legitimately trying to help out some of the newer roleplayers in this RP, and to help the RP become more realistic, as it says it is supposed to be in the OP :c

[Gadrana-Eshil]

Ooooh, I see what's going on here. They're in one of those cliques, that don't realize they have serious issues, and always try to make excuses regarding everything, and gang up against people!

Please don't say things like that. I don't want to raise tensions any more than they have already been raised. I'd still like to cooperate with everyone here if at all possible.

Okay. It's just that I deal with people like this at high school x3 I apologize, though, and I'll try to keep my snark to myself.

[Relikai]

You know I'd find it extremely odd when you mentioned that the Entirety is a Rip-Off. I placed my inspirations above, are they considered a rip-off still, especially when there's plenty of differences?

When you claim that my whole nation is a rip off from yours without specifics, what are you implying without clarification? The WHOLE? That not a shred of originality was added and everything was templated from your nation?

Everything? Heck, that accusation itself is an insult if I might say for the defensiveness.

And it seems that you have brushed aside the apology given without acknowledgement.

Edit - so there's an issue with the history huh. Alright, will continue to backdate to 50AD. Honestly haven't had time to read thru every nation's history, someone who claimed to have owned the entirety of the continent with first dibs can easily accuse us of plagarism or historical interference next.

Your only "apology" was totally lacking in sincerity and I never claimed every aspect of your nation was copied from mine. I said the whole idea of a Christianised Japanese culture was copied from mine. If it was genuinely a complete coincidence, then I'd still expect some sort of acknowledgement from you that my nation was created using that idea first. I can see, and I appreciate, that you've done your own thing with Sakurai. It's just hurtful that you don't seem to have considered, or even care, whether I would want an additional nation based on the same idea as mine in this RP.

Lacking in Sincerity? I only acknowledged what you wanted to have acknowledged. Thanks for the second insult.

Back to the important things, since the first ricocheted to who knows where, I apologise for giving the impression of copying, plagiarising, any concepts similar to the RPing nation of Old Tyrannia. Since apologies over the net via text can be misinterpreted like the first try, any form of similarity or concept of Sakurai which has been deemed copied, by coincidence or intentionally, will be edited away.

I acknowledge a Japan-based or Japan-themed nation to be under Old Tyrannia on basis of being one of the first arrivals and approvals from the OP, and will be changing and editing my nation to erase all possible traces of copying or plagarism, or reference to Japan, except for the usage of technical equipment.

As accused of having the whole concept of Sakurai being a copy, edits will be made on Sakurai, and Sakurai should be placed in PENDING.